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« on: January 12, 2006 07:44:00 AM »

Hey Craftsters,

On the Friends of Craftster board we've been having some discussions about how threads sometimes get a little long and unwieldy because there's a lot of "that's cool!" or "tutorial please!" being posted and so important questions and answers about the project are hard to find sometimes.

So what I'd like to suggest is this...

Did you all know that you have the POWER to edit your own posts? To do this click the MODIFY button at the top of any message you have posted!

So if you start a thread for a project you've created and throughout the course of the thread you answer some good questions, post some new pics of the steps involved, other people suggest interesting improvements, whatever... then you could consider editing your first post in the thread to add all of this new good info.

If you do this then people coming to the thread later on don't have to do as much sifting through all the responses!

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I think it's fine and totally great to post your praise of a project! Even if it's just a simple "that's cool!" The person who posted the project deserves to hear this praise. So feel free to do this.

But enough with the "tute please!" posts. If one person has already posted this, you don't need to ask again. Wink If you're dying for a tutorial, and you've waited a while for it and the person doesn't provide one, you can PM them to ask for one but be respectful if they decide they don't want to share their technique for whatever reason.

And if you can't see someone's pictures, don't post this in the thread. Try again later because their bandwidth may have run up. And PM the person if you still can't see them. It just bogs down the thread to post "I can't see your pictures!" in the thread.

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006 08:08:38 AM »

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I don't mean to be the mean one, but maybe since people don't listen to everyone else saying, "We know you can't see the pictures, stop posting!", etc., maybe they'll listen to you!

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006 08:09:56 PM »

done and done.  Grin

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2006 11:49:10 AM »

Can I suggest that folks not include photos in quotes from a thread?

Including the text is good, but waiting for the same image to load four times as you page through a thread is quite a waste of time and resources!  If you're already going through old posts, and see that you've quoted pics along with the text when it wasn't necessary, go in and delete the code for the image from the quote...

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2006 02:13:27 PM »

Can I add one suggestions, also, for everyone to consider?  There are a few threads that are decidedly unrelated to crafting, which have grown to monster proportions.  I'm speaking specifically of the cat, dog, wedding, and what we look like threads.  These are 80+ pages long, full of pictures, chewing up the bandwidth like pacman eats pellets! 

Now, I'll be the first to admit that I posted pictures of my beloved furries in two of these threads.  And after a couple weeks, I deleted the pictures.  It's fine to want to share--but NOBODY is going to look through 80 pages of cats, and there's no reason to keep the whole thread up.  I respectfully suggested in the thread once that, having shared our kitties,  people could consider deleting the older posts, especially those with pictures, and one or two people thought it was a good idea, but few people actually did it. 

The thing is, we all know how much work it is for Leah to keep up with this site.  Those of us who donate do it because we love the community and want to support it, and because having such a comprehensive archive of craft projects is mind-blowingly cool.  That's why it makes me feel so irked whenever bandwidth causes issues, and I know these ridiculous threads are out there!  I think the moderators should exercise their prerogatives to delete them.  Seriously.  If people want an archive of cats, there are other sites for that.  Right?

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2006 04:33:43 PM »

Something that is done on a forum for which I moderate is that once a thread on one topic reaches a certain size (in this case it is 300 posts) the thread is locked and a new one on that topic started.  The locked thread is allowed to exist, but no one can post to it, for a period of time so that those who might have been having a discussion that carryed over have time to view the old posts, and some pertinent information is moved by the moderator to the new thread, but after a period of a week or so, the old thread is deleted. 

While I think that this would not exactly be useful in all cases on this site, aspects of it may make a world of difference.  I, too, realized that despite my interest in some of those monster "what does your *fill in the blank* look like" threads, they are causing problems.  For instance, I rarely access the forum through the index page of craftster.org.  I go straight to the forum.  However, on the index page is a snapshot of the top 10 threads in terms of number of posts.  For a very long time, the Jordy Bag thread was at the top of that list.  It has now been dropped to #5, with only ONE of the threads in the top four positions being craft related!!  Imagine what message this might send to a person new to the forums: What our hair and tattoos look like is more important to us than the crafts!  This may turn some people off entirely, which would be very sad, but there are probably others too whom this appeals, and then the problem becomes self-perpetuating.

So, while I am not entirely against threads like those, and in fact have myself posted to a couple, and I like the idea of being able to share with fellow craftsters other aspects of what makes us crafty, and other ways in which we express our creativity, I think that a "what do your tattoos look like" thread being the largest drain of bandwidth on the site (especially considering that most of the posts have pictures, and surely a large portion of those pictures are hosted on Craftster), and larger than the nearest craft-related thread by almost 1000 posts, is almost disgraceful. 

Like I said, I like to share with other craftsters as much as anyone, and have done so.  Perhaps if we worked together the thread-size limit for non-craft-related posts would work.  After all, as my crafty sistah Craft-Matic said, very few people will actually read through all the pages of a thread that monsterous.  If the thread was locked after a certain number of posts, who would really miss the posts at the beginning of the thread, or in the middle, when many people might look through the first page or two, and then post to the last page, then keep up with the pages FOLLOWING their post for a little while, but skip most of what came before.  In that way, the threads can be kept as a subtle addition to Craftster without being done away with altogether.  They can keep a low profile to the greater reason for this site:  Crafts.  It wasn't that long ago, really, when Leah had to disallow non-craft-related threads compeltely because they were overshadowing the crafts.  We do a disservice to Craftster if we allow that to happen again.  We as Craftsters should consider moderating ourselves a bit more before Leah has to take evasive action again.

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006 08:46:28 PM »

Lothruin, I just want you to know how much I agree with you. I agree SO MUCH that I am going to post what might be my first ever:


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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2006 07:37:42 PM »

I don't understand why we can't actually delete posts/threads that we have made that are useless?

You can delete any post you've made except the software won't won't let you:

1. delete an entire thread (because others may have posted in it and you'd be deleting their posts too)

2. delete the first post in a thread even if it's you're post

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006 05:38:39 PM »

I think something else that would help would be to make things like say the clothing topics and in each subtopic, make certian topics where things like skirts, tops, etc go, so that you arent having to look through  40+ pages. also, maybe when your looking at all the posts, you can be able to look through them by the date they were made, not the last post. i think that would be nice Grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2006 08:41:33 AM »

I have to admit, occasionally I look through the last pages on a forum, because I'm relatively new, and if someone made something just perfect sometime before last October, I wouldn't know unless I look, right?  But a lot of the older posts, the photos are no longer there, and there's no real description.  Is there a reason to keep them around if the post is just "Look what I made" and a photobucket oops?  I honestly don't know much about computers, as I've probably just shown,  Roll Eyes so I'm not sure if deleting these (not the ones with tutes or something useful, just the ones that leave you with no idea at all what was made) would help with bandwidth issues and such? 

If I've displayed my ignorance (besides announcing it here Grin), forgive me.  My mom's the computer whiz, not me.  LOL

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