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« on: October 21, 2005 10:31:41 AM »

I looove Crafster - like everyone else! And I get so inspired by all the neat-o things I see here... But, my dilemma is: Is it okay to make a copy of something  & post the results?

I've made a couple of Crafster things, but haven't posted because I can't get past that idea of "copying is bad." (I think school was super pounded into my head)

I would never sell anything I make, but I do like to give it away as gifts...

Do you post? What are your thoughts on this? Am I the only one that feels this way? Huh
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2005 10:34:24 AM »

The whole point of sharing with those of us on Craftster is to spread the ideas.  I think a good majority of people here (if not all) would agree with that, and probably be quite flattered you decided to try something they made.

As long as you're not claiming it as your own creation (as in "I totally made this thing up all by myself"), or selling it as a "unique" item, I see nothing wrong.

Anyone else?

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2005 10:36:26 AM »

I totally agree with sammyb.

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005 10:36:49 AM »

I don't see it as a problem.  I think it is flattering if someone copies my work.

Looking for fellow craftsters to share ideas with!
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005 12:43:49 PM »

I think most people enjoy the inspiration of seeing things posted here. I think it's fine to make things others invented (especially when they post a tute) and post the results. I would either post my version of a craft on the same thread or include a link to the original. Some people on the other hand seem to worry about people "copying" (reinterpreting is probably a better word) their ideas. If the original post included threats to others not to copy, then maybe you don't want to post your version (but I don't think that should stop you from reinterpreting an idea if so inclined, especially if done for gifts, not for profit). That's how culture works. It's only plagiarism if you dishonestly claim ideas as your own. So go for it! Post away.

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005 12:51:12 PM »

i know what you mean, littlenecy...  i have been totally inspired by so much of what i see on craftster, but i've also read through threads where people got mighty sore about someone else "copying" or "borrowing" (or whatever) their projects.  i think what minouette says makes sense though - if the original poster asks people not to copy for whatever reason, it seems respectful not to copy (or at least not post it...)  though i can't help feeling that craftster is about sharing and swapping ideas, so by posting here, you're sort of agreeing to some degree to share your work or techniques. and that by posting you might as well expect to get a "copycat" or two.... know what i mean? personally, i would be tickled pink if somebody took one of my ideas and put her/his own spin on it. it's the craftster, way, isn't it?

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005 01:09:07 PM »

as long as you give credit, its okay

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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2005 01:35:41 PM »

I pretty much agree with the above posters, craftsters a great sharing environment. When people put their stuff out there it's flattering to know it's liked and inspiring.  Smiley

So long as you're not selling the stuff and you give credit where it's due when you post and when some big design house happens to see one of the gifts and approaches you... it happens... so I hear  Smiley

The soreness Sparklehorse spoke of (and cool username by the way I love that band!) might come when people don't give credit or when they never post their own work only copies of other people (I'm saying this well aware that I've not been on Craftster long and haven't posted projects yet) or even worse when they just post to say they made a copy and sold it. Sad

I see copying and reinterpreting as seperate things for example (and this is an opinion and not comprehensive) if lots of people make a bag from the exact same pattern just with different materials that's not really copying because they are going to look roughly the same and most patterns are already established.
However if the original poster made a unique pattern then the others will be copies
Unless each person changed not only the fabric but some fundamental parts of the design like if they found a way to make it out of beads and not fabric or if they changed how it closes and gave it functions it didn't have before like pockets
those to me are reinterpretations.

I've been burned (and still being burned I'm very lucky a good lawyer wanted to do work in the intellecutal property area otherwise I could never afford her) so I'm wary but I appreciate if you just lock down all your ideas they pretty much stop coming, much better to have an environment like Craftster to bounce them around in.

If something really inspires you and the poster lives in the US and you live in South Africa there's always the option of starting a business relationship of a kind with them in that you have two markets so there's the possibility of 'royalties' paid back to the originator of the idea but I'm getting way ahead there Smiley

And if someone posts with a warning not to copy I'd stick to that and really it's your own personal code on that, some people would and some people wouldn't.

I think if in doubt just ask the person who showed the first one if they'd be happy with you posting your version.

Phew I rambled on  Cheesy There is another thread similar to this discussion but I can't find a link to it at the moment.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005 12:17:50 PM »

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who took the time to respond to my post - I most definitely appreciated all your well-thought out input... there were some great words of wisdom there - not just for myself, but all crafsters!

Thanks for taking the time to read & respond to my post!
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2006 08:02:24 PM »

Ok, so this is an old post BUT...
Say someone posts a project in a thread.
Say another person "reinterprets" said project.
Person 2 posts their project in the same thread, with a "not my design" disclaimer, but with NO mention that a nearly identical project was previously posted! In the same thread! And person 2 gets compliments from others!
Person 1 feels that saying something would be mean. So person 1 stays silent, sad, and frustrated.

Whew. Ok, I'm good now. Just give credit where credit is due.
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