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« on: February 08, 2019 07:09:41 PM »

hi again.  popping in randomly, as usual.   Roll Eyes

so.  handmade books.  I've found a lot of tutorials on Pinterest, but they always make me nervous just looking at them.  how hard are they to make?  my usual source for journals no longer carries the ones I like.  I could always buy one on Etsy (and I have found one I'm absolutely in love with for one reason, and one reason only...it's made from an old book from 1982 on video games), but I'm having a hard time finding one like the ones I like.  I figured if I made my own, I could make exactly what I want.  but they seem so intimidating.   Undecided
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019 08:02:50 PM »

Hey, hi Smiley. I've been making books lately & found it quite interesting & not too much of a challenge. Is there a style you most prefer? Maybe I or someone else here has tried it & can answer questions or give advice.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019 08:57:27 PM »

Well, mainly Id like one for writing in. But I also love the kinds that have pockets and I like to decorate the pages. Ive looked into guesso as far as decorating with paints and such, but I kinda dont want to spend the money on that. I have had issues with pens and stamp ink bleeding through, so guesso would be good, but Im not totally worried about it because theres a good chance Id end up putting stickers or scrapbook paper on the opposite side to cover it before writing on the other side.

So mainly I want something I can write in and decorate.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2019 01:31:42 PM »

I more meant the style of book, the binding etc. Do you have a preferance?

There is a junk journal along here with lots of ideas & links.

Tutorials on Craftster.

Tutorials on other sites.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2019 02:27:00 PM »

ah.  I see.  as far as binding goes, I just know I don't like the cheapness of glued-in pages.  that's what the books I've been using have, so they fall apart toward the back.  and I try to glue them back in only to make a mess of everything.

thank you for those links.  and THANK YOU for the tutorial link!  I haven't been able to get to ANY of the tutorial lists!!!
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2019 05:05:42 PM »

Yup, lots of handbound books are stitched. There are gluing techniques but I haven't tried them.
I read recently about the tutorial link not working (there've been some glitches from a recent upgrade that are being worked on) but you can find tutes right in their sections, there are posts like the ones I linked to in nearly every category.
Somebody carefully compiled those collections of links but some of them are defunct now. Still lots to check out. I'm making my way through Smiley.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2019 06:47:11 PM »

I love making books but its easy to get overwhelmed with all the options.  There are definitely some that are easier or faster than others, but just jump in.  Worse case, you end up with pages for your next book. There is a midori style, if Im remembering correctly.  You basically fold something that will be sturdy enough for a cover, put a rubber band (Id use a hair band elastic) into the fold, then tuck in sheets of whatever to create the pages.  Cant get much simpler than that!
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2019 07:16:33 PM »

Yup, lots of handbound books are stitched. There are gluing techniques but I haven't tried them.
I read recently about the tutorial link not working (there've been some glitches from a recent upgrade that are being worked on) but you can find tutes right in their sections, there are posts like the ones I linked to in nearly every category.
Somebody carefully compiled those collections of links but some of them are defunct now. Still lots to check out. I'm making my way through Smiley.

handbound just seems more sturdy.  that's one thing I like about it.
yeah, I see that the tut link is kinda broken.  but it's good to know that they are available in their sections.
it looks like the non-Craftster links are broken.  not all of them, though, but what even is Threadbangers anymore?  that's not what I remember it being like.  so unfortunately those links didn't work.  but I was able to find lots of other stuff.  it's too bad the non-Craftster links list can't be fixed (can it?  probably by making a new post, I guess).  I found lots of things to look at on other sites that could be added.

I love making books but its easy to get overwhelmed with all the options.  There are definitely some that are easier or faster than others, but just jump in.  Worse case, you end up with pages for your next book. There is a midori style, if Im remembering correctly.  You basically fold something that will be sturdy enough for a cover, put a rubber band (Id use a hair band elastic) into the fold, then tuck in sheets of whatever to create the pages.  Cant get much simpler than that!

hey Mun!  long time!

yeah, I've been researching since about .  I looked at the links crafty posted, but some of them no longer work as far as non-Craftster go (what has Threadbanger become?!), and from there ventured out onto other sites.  Instructables has had a few tutorials that caught my eye, and I found a couple on Pinterest too.  I did see one like you were talking about that used rubber bands, but I know how they can dry rot and break.  I worry about that with hairband elastics too.  I like the idea, I just don't want to worry about the bands breaking.  I did find a really neat idea using magazines.  I'm going to have to start grabbing my mom's maga...wait!  I have video game magazines I can use!!!  duh!!!  lol.  it's cheap, but it can be something fun to work on.  plus, after looking around, I have a few ideas that could help make it more sturdy than the flimsiness of magazines.  and then maybe eventually I can work on something more intricate like actual book binding.

thanks for the help, you two!  I am now dying to get started on making a journal!  I still have one of the journals I bought years ago that I can use, but since it's small and I'll be adding pictures and stuff to it, it's not going to take me very long to fill it.  but this way I'll have time to play around with the magazine journal I want to make.  and like you said, Mun, it could turn into pages for my next book!   Grin
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2019 08:26:24 PM »

OOOOOOoooooo...

just went back to Pinterest and there on my feed was a pin about a junk journal.  it was made from an old dictionary.  that's a thick book.  and I have me one of them.

magazine first, though.  I really do want to do that.  then it's on to the dictionary.  I need a new one anyway.

oh.  she gut the dictionary and put paper in it.  still, I have two ideas for a dictionary now.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2019 06:56:52 AM »

oh, using magazines sounds interesting!  Can you share a link?  I've been wanting to get back to doing more books and I always prefer to reuse.  I understand the worry about the elastic breaking.  I suppose you could use some other kind of fiber if you don't need the elasticity.  I figured I'd do a simple saddle stitch down the fold when I was done.  I have been wanting to start journaling but something just hasn't clicked to keep me going.  Now you've got me thinking...

When you do get into binding books, using the coptic stitch will let the book open completely flat.  It makes for easier writing for me.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2019 11:26:14 AM »

magazine journals
There you go! Always happy to share.  Smiley
I was looking more at midori (you were correct) and wondering if I could do it without elastic. Id probably use something like jute since I have tons of it, plus I like the look of it. Glad I could maybe help you get going again.  Grin

Coptic. Got it. I would love to be open my journal as flat as possible. Its easier for writing, plus its easier for decorating. Its a pain trying to stick scrapbook paper down in between pages that are arched so close together.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2019 12:01:48 PM »

That is so much fun!  Of course, I see this after I passed on most all of my Stampington magazines in the recent purge I did.  I really like the tip of how to open up the pages so the book lies flat.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2019 12:06:37 PM »

I generally use kettle stitch to bind signatures. Sea Lemon has lots of wonderful video tutorials on youtube.
I posted 2 little books today that I bound with kettle stitch.

geekgirl1000100 used gelli prints for the pages of this junk journal.

Smmarrt makes amazing junk journals too.

There is a great paper and mixed media craftalong going with awesome links to all sorts of printing techniques.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2019 01:01:35 PM »

That is so much fun!  Of course, I see this after I passed on most all of my Stampington magazines in the recent purge I did.  I really like the tip of how to open up the pages so the book lies flat.

Of course! Lol. Yeah, opening them up like that is really handy. I might get a bone folder to use like she did because I dont know if my hands alone could take it.


I generally use kettle stitch to bind signatures. Sea Lemon has lots of wonderful video tutorials on youtube.
I posted 2 little books today that I bound with kettle stitch.

geekgirl1000100 used gelli prints for the pages of this junk journal.

Smmarrt makes amazing junk journals too.

There is a great paper and mixed media craftalong going with awesome links to all sorts of printing techniques.

Ooo...thanks for this! Ill have to get on my laptop and look into them. Its kind of a pain to be on here with a mobile device.  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2019 06:58:50 PM »

I found an old butter knife that makes for a great bone folder.  And I've been known to use a spoon to smooth things out too.

Now I have to go look up kettle stitch!
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2019 07:35:01 PM »

I'm not opposed to doing something like that.  I may have a random butter knife I could use.  it would save me the money.

I really like Sea Lemon's tut for the kettle stitch.  it looks nice and sturdy.  some of the stitches I've been seeing look a little flimsy.  one that I saw for a good sized book only used like 4 holes or something.  it left the string too long for my comfort.  I like the smaller stitches.  I mean...I'm almost tempted to sew them with the longest stitch on my sewing machine!  lol.  but that probably wouldn't work with thick stacks of paper.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019 05:41:54 AM »

I have sewn signatures together by machine but then you still need to attach them somehow. I like kettle stitches no more than 2" apart. I want that book to stay tightly bound! You can add glue to the spine too but I haven't done that myself.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019 07:06:52 AM »

I really like the kettle stitch too.  It looks like it would be easier to keep a steady tension throughout the whole book.

I tend to use double sided tape for most of my sticking together.  I use the big rolls like carpet tape though I've found them at independent dollar stores where I'll buy a ton at a time.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019 10:57:08 AM »

I've been using a hard plastic point-turning sewing tool as a bone folder but I am sure there are better things. I'd really love a creasing board with a proper bone folder. If I get more serious about book making I am going to have to get better tools for it I think.

A book binding craftalong has been started with a link to a nice simple little starter project, soft cover, single signature with pamphlet stitch. Come and join in!
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019 11:35:10 AM »

I have sewn signatures together by machine but then you still need to attach them somehow. I like kettle stitches no more than 2" apart. I want that book to stay tightly bound! You can add glue to the spine too but I haven't done that myself.
I've been using a hard plastic point-turning sewing tool as a bone folder but I am sure there are better things. I'd really love a creasing board with a proper bone folder. If I get more serious about book making I am going to have to get better tools for it I think.
book binding craftalong has been started with a link to a nice simple little starter project, soft cover, single signature with pamphlet stitch. Come and join in!

exactly.  I hadn't quite figured out how to attach machine sewn signatures.  and yes, short stitches for hand stitched.  I'd add glue for the same reason I add glue to some  of my cross stitch, bead weaving, lots of things that involve string; I feel it keeps it from slipping.  and it makes me feel like it's sturdier and more secure.  I just like glue.  lol.  I don't have many sewing tools as I don't sew much (my fanciest tool is a rotary cutter.  lol), so that's not an on-hand option for me, but I'm sure I can find something that will work well enough.  and I'll have a look at that craftalong!

I really like the kettle stitch too.  It looks like it would be easier to keep a steady tension throughout the whole book.

I tend to use double sided tape for most of my sticking together.  I use the big rolls like carpet tape though I've found them at independent dollar stores where I'll buy a ton at a time.

that is a nice looking stitch, isn't it?  I think this will be the one I use.  I also think some of the stitches I was originally seeing were kinda scaring me.  "go in hole 1, come out hole 2, go in hole 5, come out hole 4, go in hole 3, come out hole 2 again, then wrap around the thread all the way down until you reach hole 4, go in hole 4, come out hole 1...".  that's exaggerated, of course, but it sounded that crazy.

now that you mention it, I might look into double sided tape for that magazine journal.  glue does make some paper...lumpy isn't the word I want to use, but I'm hoping you know what I mean.  I use those photo mounting squares for lots of my paper crafting stuff.  it's how most of my ATCs were stuck together.  looks like I'm going shopping tomorrow.  lol

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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019 05:46:47 PM »

I understood at lumpy though!  LOL

I discovered the bag of magazines I thought I had passed on were actually left in the back of my car!  And we're supposedly getting snowed in tomorrow again, though it has yet to actually happen.  So, tomorrow will be a great day to start the magazine journal.

Krafty Karasu, you are completely right about how so many book stitching directions are written out.  Seeing her do it made it so much easier.

Craftylittlemonkey, thanks for setting up the craftalong thread!
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019 06:33:03 PM »

LOL.  good!  I just couldn't believe that "lumpy" was the best I could come up with.  stupid sinus infection!!!

oh yay!!!  let me know how it goes.  and stay warm!

even with some of the drawings and pictures, the stitching still makes no sense.  and then they've got these fancy Xs, zig-zags, and all kinds of things.  I just want something easy that will hold well.  and she accomplished that.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019 07:04:15 AM »

I can usually figure those drawings out, I think because I struggled so hard learning to follow a crochet pattern. I mostly just made stuff up as it went so got a feel for string, lol. But a video does really help so much. I would like to try more of those fancy bindings where the thread makes images, I'll keep practicing until I get better at the basics then give something more complicated a go. 
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