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« on: July 24, 2005 06:39:59 AM »

Ok, I've only eaten brownies once (sounds weird, huh?) and it was today and they were baked by me  Grin as I didn't know where else to get them (they aren't sold in shops or cafes or anywhere here obviously). It was awesome, sooo chocolate-y!
And then I read some posts about brownies and I got totally confused. What is a fudgy brownie and what's a cakey one? And how should a brownie taste? (Ok, it's a seriously idiotic question, but hey, I hadn't eaten a brownie until an hour ago!)

And maybe someone would be willing to write their favourite brownie recipe? I think I've found a perfect dessert for the chocolate lover that I am Wink (I followed the recipe I found at http://www.joyofbaking.com/brownies.html, it was super easy. It smelled (and looked) so nice that I couldn't even wait for the brownies to cool properly.)

Any kind of help is really appreciated.
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005 07:30:54 AM »

*hugs u*

first time?! oh my *hugs u again* where on earth do u live?

i'm not usually this affectionate but wow, brownies are like the eternal food, a piece of heaven in a person's mouth! they are deliciously flakey and kinda both dry and moist at the same time! They smell divine, shouldn't taste too sweet and don't usually have an icing. U can have walnuts or any other nuts in em, or use teeny pieces of fudge or choc chips for fudge brownies.

brownies don't quite have a cakey consistency n u don't slice em, u square em. they're harder when touched than cakes but melt in the mouth, and should if u make em right!

they taste great plain, or with vanilla icecream and chocolate topping if you're so inclined. i've only made brownies a few times but i'm a true conoisseur so hopefully i've helped u a lil bit! go brownies!

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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2005 07:43:06 AM »

No, not dumb at all; if you've never had brownies you don't know how they should tastes, though as long as you like the way they taste it doesn't really matter. I agree with sheenyweeny, brownies should have a melt in your mouth chocolaty consistency and should really not be cakey or have icing. I'd love to post my favorite recipe, but it from a currently copy righted cookbook, so I can't post it on the board. If you pm me, I can give it to you (it'll be just like you borrowed it from the library and photocopied the page!). Basically, it's melted chocolate, eggs, vanilla, sugar, butter, and less flour than you would think.

edit: I found a recipe from the Philadelphia Inquirer that came at the end of an article on good brownies;  I've never tried it, but it looks good; I'm sure I can post this because it was in the newspaper. ( I'll cite it anyway: Bittman, Phil. "Back to Brownie Basics". Philadelphia Inquirer, Thursday, August 19, 2004.)

3 oz. unsweetened chocolate
8 tablespoons (1 stick) butter, plus one more for greasing the pan and knife
1 cup sugar
2 eggs
1/2 cup all purpose flour
Pinch of salt if using unsalted butter
1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract (optional)

1. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees.
2. Combine the chocolate and stick of butter in a small saucepan over very low heat stirring occasionally. When chocolate is just melted, remove from heat and continue to stir until mixture is smooth. {I like to melt it in a double broiler, less chance of burning, but since I don't have one, i just take pot of boiling water and put a heat-safe bowl with the chocolate and butter on top, and stir}
3. Meanwhile, grease and 8-inch square baking pan. If you like, line it with waxed or parchment paper and grease that. {I always line and then grease, so much easier to get it out of the pan}
4. Transfer chocolate mixture to a bowl. Stir in the sugar. Beat in the eggs, one at a time. Add the flour (and salt and vanilla, if using). Stir just until blended, stopping when no traces of flour remain. Scape batter into prepared pan.
5. Bake until set and barely firm in the middle, about 20 to 30 minutes.
6. Cool in pan on a wire rack. Slice into bars with a well buttered knife.

If anyone wants to read the article, I can scan it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005 07:49:09 AM »

OOh, that's a gooood brownie recipe.

I made my first brownies by accident. I was 'trying' to make cake, but I read it wrong.

It was :

-- Two boxes chocolate cake mix.
-- One box white cake mix.
-- 2 cups of oil (Yeah, that's where I made the mistake. I thought it said two, it said 1/2...I added the other Mixes to try to compensate, but it was still really really heavy.. and FANTASTIC.)
-- 2 eggs

I got told over, and over, and over again that they were the best brownies anyone had ever tasted. (They were for the office christmas party).  It took about four hours to bake them up so they weren't just a big glob of oil, but they really were super.

And the Best Icing Ever :

1 bag of chocolate chips
1 thingie of sour cream (Adjust both to taste)

heat sour cream over Very Low Heat, add chocolate chips until desired consistency/taste. Cool slightly, spread over brownies/cake/cupcakes/eat right out of the pot.

Some people don't like their brownies to have icing. I do.
Some like them with nuts, not me.

These are kindof like a fudge, really. They melt in your mouth and its really hard to chew. Super chocolatey. Also a bit buttery. And delicious.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005 07:55:45 AM »

 Cheesy Cheesy
Ooh thanks to all three of you Wink
I live in Lithuania if anyone knows where it is. It's in Europe, on the east coast of the Baltic sea, somewhere in between Russia, Poland, Latvia and Byelorussia (sp?). And we don't have a lot of things I think I'd love, f.e. mint flavoured ice-cream with tiny bits of chocolate (we *used* to have them but then they suddenly disappeared from the shops) or *let me think* a lot of vegetarian foods or even maple syrup (I SO love it)!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2005 08:04:02 AM »


start a brownie biz, i think we have a couple in new zealand, i found this link to one


i dunno how great the business is or does, but it's just an idea, and it'd sure put a smile on lithuania's face Smiley

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2005 08:28:13 AM »

To say the truth, one of my biggest wishes is to have a small cosy cafe or something where I'd sell pies and cookies and everything made by me, I mean, it would be warm and all, not some kind of a "we-make-a-million-pies-per-hour" shop. And it would definitely have brownies there Wink
But I have to "grow up" to do that Wink (I'm only 16 you know Wink)
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2005 08:42:26 AM »

I think Lithuania has been brownie-deprived long enough! Good luck to you in your ventures!

The difference between a brownie and cake is the texture and compactness. A good brownie should be slightly chewy and have few crumbs, with a shiny and slightly crisp top (the sugar content does that part, mostly). If you've got a shiny top, there's no need for frosting.

« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2005 12:12:52 PM »

okay when i'm rich, you'll be old enough by then believe me, and i visit lithuania, i'll come by your cosy pie place, sample your brownies and let you know if you're making em right!

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2005 12:57:58 PM »

Yay, my first client  Cheesy
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2005 02:54:40 PM »

What is a fudgy brownie and what's a cakey one? And how should a brownie taste? (Ok, it's a seriously idiotic question, but hey, I hadn't eaten a brownie until an hour ago!)

Not an idiotic question at all...

A cakey brownie is drier, has more crumb and, well, is more cake-like. Imagine a cake that didn't rise properly, or, you know that dense layer in a black forest cherry cake? It's like that, but really chocolatey. 

A fudgey brownie is wetter, heavier, oilier (in a good way!) and smoother on the tongue.  It almost melts in your mouth, like ganache or fudge.  Plus, fudgey brownies are more likely to have a shiny shell or crust as a result of all the eggs.  I prefer fudgey brownies, without frosting.

A chocolate brownie should end up tasting like the baked equivalent of semisweet or bittersweet chocolate. Milk chocolate isn't adequately chocolate for a brownie.

By the way, although the traditional American brownie contains walnuts; I like to make brownies with raisins and dried sour cherries instead.  Just make sure the cherries are dried, not candied.

Happy baking!


« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2005 04:53:03 PM »

Business Idea: Since they don't sell them where you live, you could consider making them and selling them.
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005 02:18:08 AM »

I hate cakey brownies. Boo.  Angry

However, fudgy brownies are something divine. And I generally don't like nuts in my brownies because I like the melt-in-your-mouth texture of the brownies. Yum!

I have a friend who makes hers with a jar of plum baby food. They're really tasty that way... more moist and fudgy and you can't really taste the plum, but it adds something to the chocolate flavor.

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2005 04:01:13 PM »

i have a friend who is jewish, and during passover, his mom makes these flourless brownies (no leavening during passover)

i've never tried this, but he tells me these brownies are the only way he can make it through passover! has anyone ever tried these or does anyone have a recipe? i'm sure i could just ask his mom for hers, i just wanted to bring up the discussion. Smiley

brownies are amazing.

one thing that is SO good to do is add kahlua (a coffee, chocolate liquer) to your brownies instead of water. i did this with my mom (i'm too young to do it myself!  Wink) and the brownies had this amazing mocha-ish taste. yum!
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2005 08:20:51 PM »

 Forget walnuts. Pecans are the queen of brownie nuts-
The absolutely BEST brownie is warm served with Blue Bell Ice Cream (Homemade Vanilla flavor).
Although, i'd bet a warm brownie smothered in that Mint Chocolate Chip (also superb done by Blue Bell Creamery) would be sensational.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2005 01:38:39 AM »

no mint choc chip icecream?! that's WORSE than no brownies!
man, i LOVE mint choc chip icecream.

you poor thing.

wonder why it disappeared.

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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2005 09:31:42 AM »

We don't have brownies in Sweden either. We could start a brownie business together and I could run it in Sweden and you could do it in Lithuania! There is after all only a little water between us!

They recently started selling Ben & Jerry's ice cream in 7eleven. Every time I pass the freezers in there, my mouth starts to water. But then my wallet cries out; never in my life would I pay $5 (unbelievable but true!) for a tiny cup of ice cream...

I found a place where they sell root beer too! It's this magic little store called "The American Food Store".  Aahh..
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2005 10:25:21 AM »

brownies are my favorite!  any time there is some sort of get together involving food, i'm always the brownie girl.  it's funny too b/c i usually just use betty crocker boxed mix.  but they always come out great. the few times i made them from scratch they tasted the same as the mix but with a lot more work.  so if i have the time i make them from scratch, but if i'm in need of a brownie fix RIGHT NOW then i settle for the mix.  no nuts, no icing, but sometimes choc chips.

you can always start your business by making and selling brownies to friends and neighbors and save the profits for when you are old enough to open your cafe. good luck.

« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2005 04:19:47 PM »

I just baked a double recipe for our National Neighborhood Night Out block party, using Betty Crocker's low carb Chocolate Chunk mix....not bad, though a little cakier than I normally prefer, but still 50% less sugar! Amazing!
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