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« on: September 24, 2003 09:21:49 AM »

i have all this stuff that i save, movie stubs, random pictures, programs, cards, and art from my elementary school students, and i'm sick of them just being in a bunch of boxes - i want to make some kind of scrapbook that is not cheesy and expensive and covered in those weird stickers - what's the best adhesive to use for this kind of thing?  anybody have any brilliant ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2003 12:46:40 PM »

This is a great idea.  I've never done a scrapbook but I run into info about scrapbooking all the time on the web when I've hunting for interesting paper craft materials.

I believe that the paper and adhesives (tape, glue, etc) that you use have to be specially marked as "acid-free" or you can experience yellowing and degradation of your momentos.

If I was gonna do this (and hopefully one day I will have the time) I'd buy a very plain, inexpensive, scrapbook and cover it in funky fabric or paper.

As far as the pages inside the book go, I've seen black pages which I think are cool looking.  I don't know if all scrapbooks are expandable, but I think that that is key.  I've seen ones that are like 3-ring binders and ones that have screw-posts.

Some of the accoutrements of scrapbooking are dork-riffic.  But some are just fine or are available in non-dorky styles.  Like photo corners for example can come in these ornate victorian styles OR you can get plain, clear versions.

It depends on what your style is but I bet that embellishingthe pages with faux fur trim, camouflage ribbon, small metal studs, etc could spice things up.

ooooh. now I wanna make one!

Here's some links I just added for where to buy scrapbooking materials:
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003 04:05:29 PM »

righteous suggestions, admin!!!  you are getting me excited about making a scrapbook - i guess part of me is insecure because i don't want to be one of those dorky scrapbookers, i want to be a cool scrapbooker.  i think black pages look good too - when i finally get it together i will post pictures.  cheers!
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2003 06:19:43 AM »

I started scrapping (what I call it, so it sounds cooler than it really is) in college with the hopes that I would be able to document all my memories without getting behind.  I have my shoeboxes of photos in chronological order but some after graduating I dropped the ball and I'm stuck in 2000  Undecided

Anyway, I went with a plain paper reflections spiral bound 8.5x11 because they seem like they're classic enough that as I need to add books, they would still be available.  plus, I liked the size and with one filled it isn't as heavy and bulky as what I imagine some 12x12 albums would be.

The problem with any of the books is that as you add to each page the book becomes thicker (even if you aren't adding 3D embellishments like charms and eyelets) and doesn't lie flat so it looks like < and with the refillable albums I wondered how much more you could really add without the book straining to stay shut!  

My mom and sister gave me some punches and scissors as a gift, but I get paper and some other stuff at the office stores and skip looking in the scrapbooking aisle or stores since it really isn't my style.

Good luck with your books!
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2003 08:45:05 PM »

Here's the lazy way:
How about "binding" manila mailing envelopes (stuffed with your memorobilia) together with jumprings and decorating the envelopes creatively.  That way, you can just reach into the category that you are really interested in.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003 04:52:44 PM »

Acid-Free Ahesive has been mentioned, but you should also be pretty highly concerned with acid-free PAPER.  I've found it difficult (though not impossibe!) to find acid-free paper in black and other colors.  The paper will:
- burn the objects that are on it/around it (you know when you find newspaper clippings in books and they've left a mark?  that's what I'm talking about)
- get brittle and crack, even moreso with objects adhered to it.

When adhering things, you should also keep in mind that ANY moisture introduced to the paper will loosen the fibers and cause cockling, which will also add to the book not being able to close.  Photo corners are tiny enough, but a lot of them could cause problems.  Double-stick adhesive (which is available archival) is probably your best bet.

The simplest way to assure that the book will be able to close is to get something WAY TOO BIG, and tear out pages - like creating "tabbed" pages in order to compensate for the added bulk in photo albums.  You could even create those tabs by cutting those sheets out about one inch from the gutter of the book.  Also, a thicker "carrier" paper is gonna be your best bet.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2003 03:12:25 PM »

I'm making a scrapbook for when my parents come up to New Jersey, to remember all the sights we see.  Cause I might be moving back to Florida here soon.  Would be nice to have one to look back on.  I have made one for another hobby i use to do.  I bought a bunch of  Las Vegas stickers and cut outs.. I plan on going there in the spring/summer time.  Best of luck with the books.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2003 06:58:49 PM »

I've made a couple of pages so far, after hoarding many materials. I'm planning on making a scrapbook for my brother, regarding his hockey. I have saved newspaper clippings, game programs, ticket stubs, etc. and I'm getting really excited to start the book. I'm thinking of giving it to him for Christmas, if I have enough pages done by then, and I can continue to add to it throughout the year.

Here is an amazing site for scrapbooking inspiration:

http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/

I like to look around in the gallery (loads of examples).

Good luck with your scrapping everyone  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2003 08:08:56 PM »

Acid-Free Ahesive has been mentioned, but you should also be pretty highly concerned with acid-free PAPER.  I've found it difficult (though not impossibe!) to find acid-free paper in black and other colors.  

It is the color/dye that is acidic. To way avoid the paper burn with non-acid-free paper is to use acid free paper in between the image you want to mount and the page. I used to do picture framing and that is how we would handle the acid free issue. Most craft/art stores have fine art papers that are acid free. Hobby Lobby carries an all cotton rag mat board that is only as thick as poster board.  

the image sandwhich shoud go like this:

image you love
acid free paper
bad acid-full paper

Use mounting corners around the whole sandwhich.

Does that make sense.
 
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2003 05:08:33 PM »

I'd say try a plain scrapbook for something classy/non-cheesy, and clear pockets for stuff you need to see both sides of that can be hole punched and added in.

I make books and love PVA glue.  Its a little pricey but it dries clear, flat, and doens't yellow.  

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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2003 06:07:37 PM »

i love the idea of clear pockets - i would really it rather look like a sample of work than a baby book or something.  cheers!
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2003 08:23:36 PM »

i have all this stuff that i save, movie stubs, random pictures, programs, cards, and art from my elementary school students, and i'm sick of them just being in a bunch of boxes

I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but if you save movie ticket stubs, you might want to jot down what movie it was. (What do they call that? Journaling?) I can't read a lot of the stubs that I have from several years ago now, so I'm lucky to have notes about what the movie was (and who I saw it with) next to the ticket. Seems dumb to have a ticket stub "memory" but not be able to remember what the movie was!
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2003 02:39:05 PM »

i completely agree - the other night i saw "A Woman is a Woman" and it was called WOMAN on the ticket stub; lots of goofy abbreviations.  i got one for something where they put the wrong movie in the computer and now i have this stub for this movie that i haven't seen but i'm not going to be anal about it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2004 08:56:37 PM »

To stand up for the "cheesy" scrapbooking supplies - you know they'll be archival for your book.  I just went to Michaels and got a whole bunch of plain cardstock and some subtly patterned papers for 50% off - yahoo!  You might also want to check the scrapbooking section for archival pens that won't run, fade, or otherwise ruin your goods if you plan to journal your scrapbook - they come in a lot of fun colors and types (ball point, markers, etc).  

Also, you can use a regular 'ol Elmers glue stick.  I usually use the glue stick for gluing papers down, and then photo squares to apply the photographs/souvenirs.  The photo squares I use stick right to the back of the photo like tape, so you can cut your stuff into funky shapes.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2004 08:30:32 AM »

though this book may seem cheesy, it is surprisingly not.  No need to go out and buy it--just flip through it at your local super-mega bookstore chain.  There are projects with instructions throughout, but the best parts of the book are the galleries at the end of each chapter.  Some of the journals are amazing--they make my notebook I keep my journal in look pretty lame.  check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1564966763/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-3346016-6761600#reader-link


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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2004 06:48:21 PM »

What I do when I have newspaper clippings and ticket stubs to scrapbook is scan them into my computer and  then print them back out on acid-free paper.  That way I don't worry about whether it is going to damage stuff or degrade.  If I'm really attached to the item, I'll laminate it and put it in a pocket somewhere inside the scrapbook.

To keep cheesy to the min, keep it simple.  It gets over the top when you have more focus on the paper you've used than the photos or items on the page.  
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2004 06:36:54 AM »

I made a scrapbook for my dad (always find gifts for males a bit of a challenge  Roll Eyes) : the covers were two old license plates (kinda rusty, grungy lookin'), inside I used the three-ring part from a binder, and I bought a cheapo photo album from a dollar store (the kind with the plastic envelope pages). I joined the license plates with a piece of extra scrap metal and the three-ring binder thingie using rivets, popped in the photo envelope pages and voila! a scrapbooking/photo-paging album! My dad loved it! I put a bunch of stuff in it: little stories that I could remember (stuff that happened when I was a kid), stories that I got from relatives (stuff that happened when they were growing up with my dad,  "most embarrassing moments" from his co-workers...that kind of thing) and of course, scans of some old photos. It worked out really well.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2004 09:01:02 AM »

I love to scrapbook!! But I do feel like a total geek due to the amount of super cutsey stuff that is out there. I struggle to make my cool, without the super cheese. You may want to
try to find a scrapbooking store. It has become a huge hobby & I lots of specific stores have sprung up all over the place. While these places usually over charge for simple materials, you can get valuable advice from the workers. Also, you can get way cooler papers. There are some really amazing "non-cheesy" papers- I am addicted to paper!!
Also, go to a book store & check out the magazine "Simple Scrapbooks". It gives lots of good ideas, some are cutsey, but it is easy to interpret them the way you want. It really gives you good ideas on lay-outs & materials for things like memoriblia as well as pictures. It also has a listing of stores in the back.
The best book I made was terribly simple a & turned out really cool. I made it for my boyfriend for our anniversary. It was a small book with all black pages. I wanted to do a whole reasons I love you theme. I found a bunch of pictures to go with my ideas. I bought some cool papers, and just cut them into irregular shapes of all types. I layed them out in interesting ways with the pictures & glued 'em down. Then I wrote my little reasons on vellum and hand ripped those out, and attached. It turned out beautiful & not very cheesy. I knew it was good cuz I made him cry. He said it was my best scrapbook ever!
As for glue, I love glue dots cuz they're so easy!
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2004 01:10:54 AM »

I am still on the fence in regard to scrapbooking (I like "scrapping"...kudos to who wrote that)..but I do like the 7 Gypsies paper.

For paper...and inspiration..check out:

www.7gypsies.com

I am still taking a look at their website...but so far so good...plus we do have some of their paper here at home...and it's very cool and uncheesy.  Grin

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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2004 06:42:40 PM »

i want to make some kind of scrapbook that is not cheesy and expensive and covered in those weird stickers - what's the best adhesive to use for this kind of thing?  anybody have any brilliant ideas?

I just got "into" scrapbooking recently...always hated it because the embellishments were too cutesy, and I always associated it with "kids & parents" sort of memories.

Building a house (or, having one built) for the first time changed that. I documented everything I could from the color of the dirt to the slope of the roof! And yeah...I looked back at those scrapbook stores. Things have changed. The altered book influence (and book arts in general) is clearly seen today. Some of the embellishments are pretty funky...especially some of the metal accents, fibers, and artsy stamps.

The main thing to remember is "acid-free"..."lignin free" too if the product is paper-based. As for adhesives, it depends on what you're doing. I use double-stick tape or other dry adhesives as often as possible...it keeps the pages from buckling. I also make my own albums (I'm a book binder), and I make sure to include spine fatteners so the fore edge of the book doesn't splay open if I have a spread with lots of layers or other "stuff" in/on it. These are easy to include if it's a post & screw album. If it's sewn, I've cut pages out here and there so that as layers build on a page, they have a little extra room.

A great book is "The Decorated Page." It is geared more for visual journals, but also includes photos and tips for scrapbooks. It helped me turn some of my pages into artsy, collaged pieces.

Hope some of this helps,
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2004 06:39:57 AM »

There a pretty good, acid-free adhesive I've used for book-binding before called Good Glue. (It doesn't "buckle" like regular PVA glues). Here's the review and info from the glue site, This to That:

http://www.thistothat.com/gom/2000.11.shtml
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2004 03:34:40 PM »

I just realized that Dollar tree carries 5 packs of 12x12" paper!  Some of them are cheesy, but a few are pretty cool with graphic squares.  They also have those stickers that are 3d-like and usually cost like $4 a packet (what do you call them?).  They had balloons, wedding theme, and birthday.  I think they'd be cute on a greeting card.

That store never fails to amaze me for some reason.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2004 12:26:36 PM »

Gotta love the Dollar Tree. We have Odd Job around here as well - I got some of the "way too cutesie" embellishments, put them in my kids easter baskets and let them put them together their own way on a card. Made for a cute project!
I like the idea of using baseball card plastic pages and economy weight page protectors.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2004 08:02:25 PM »

All right, I'll say it.  I'm a Creative Memories Consultant.  Hehe.  I haven't ever mentioned it before, because I dislike advertising, and I really only signed up to get all the cool tools at a low price.  CM is cheesy in the extreme sometimes.  But the quality is extremely high, and I have never purchased paper-cutting tools that work as well as these do. 

That said, it's put me into a position to know some stuff about some things.  Acid free is good.  Lignin free is also good.  You can buy black, white or "natural" pages, which opens up a lot to different styles.  And all the CM pages are buffered, so you don't even have to worry about what you use for embellishment, as long as it is not in direct contact with the photo.  (They claim to be the only company who sells buffered pages, but I have no idea if that is true.)  Now, I'm not trying to talk anyone into CM products.  I LOVE the idea of hand-made scrapbooks.  And honestly, I don't have a single scrapbook myself that is made entirely of CM products.  (A supposed nono.  It isn't against the rules, but is highly discouraged.)  Just because I started scrapping when I was pregnant with my daughter (who was it who associated scrapbooks with parent/child things?) doesn't mean her scrapbook should be pink and prissy.  Nothing wrong with cute, but I'm an individual, and so should be my memory books, right?  But, sometimes erring on the side of caution IS good to an extent.  I don't think it would be hard to make a scrapbook which would fit CM pages, and you'd get all your own style with the safety of archival papers. 

A scrapbook should be as unique as the individuals and memories it houses.  That's what I tell all my customers, and if it costs me a $4.95 sticker sale because they decide to go down to Hobby Lobby and get the neon pink alphabet ones instead, I'm happy.  The instructions that I get from the unit leaders to lead consumers into conformity sits hard with me.  Go, be free.  Put laser-cut CM pink bunnies with Stickopotumus hockey gear stickers if it suits you.  Use vintage wrapping paper as part of your picture mats.  Make origami hats for all the adults in your office holiday party photos.  And remember:  Though it seems the products available ARE cheesy, it all depends on how you use them!
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2004 05:50:19 PM »

All right, I'll say it.  I'm a Creative Memories Consultant.  Hehe.  I haven't ever mentioned it before, because I dislike advertising, and I really only signed up to get all the cool tools at a low price.  CM is cheesy in the extreme sometimes.  But the quality is extremely high, and I have never purchased paper-cutting tools that work as well as these do. 

That said, it's put me into a position to know some stuff about some things.  Acid free is good.  Lignin free is also good.  You can buy black, white or "natural" pages, which opens up a lot to different styles.  And all the CM pages are buffered, so you don't even have to worry about what you use for embellishment, as long as it is not in direct contact with the photo.  (They claim to be the only company who sells buffered pages, but I have no idea if that is true.)  Now, I'm not trying to talk anyone into CM products.  I LOVE the idea of hand-made scrapbooks.  And honestly, I don't have a single scrapbook myself that is made entirely of CM products.  (A supposed nono.  It isn't against the rules, but is highly discouraged.)  Just because I started scrapping when I was pregnant with my daughter (who was it who associated scrapbooks with parent/child things?) doesn't mean her scrapbook should be pink and prissy.  Nothing wrong with cute, but I'm an individual, and so should be my memory books, right?  But, sometimes erring on the side of caution IS good to an extent.  I don't think it would be hard to make a scrapbook which would fit CM pages, and you'd get all your own style with the safety of archival papers. 

A scrapbook should be as unique as the individuals and memories it houses.  That's what I tell all my customers, and if it costs me a $4.95 sticker sale because they decide to go down to Hobby Lobby and get the neon pink alphabet ones instead, I'm happy.  The instructions that I get from the unit leaders to lead consumers into conformity sits hard with me.  Go, be free.  Put laser-cut CM pink bunnies with Stickopotumus hockey gear stickers if it suits you.  Use vintage wrapping paper as part of your picture mats.  Make origami hats for all the adults in your office holiday party photos.  And remember:  Though it seems the products available ARE cheesy, it all depends on how you use them!

I totally agree with the last paragraph in her post.Some of the products available are a little cheesy but it does depend on how u use them.
p.s-the using vintage wrapping paper as a photo mat is a good idea!lol.atleast I think it is and if its the right type of paper for the pic it could look good!
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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2004 04:22:21 PM »

I don't know if you've started on the actual book or whatnot, but there are several things you can do to avoid the alligator mouth (where the binding is small and the end is wide):  Get a scrapbook with an expandable spine or get a spiral bound book that has a very large binding. 

As far as expandable spines go, if you get a post bound or strap-hinge book, you'll be good to go.  The thing that's nice about post bound is that you can easily move the pages around without going in total chronological order and basically make the book as big or small as you'd like.

WRT adhesives:  if you have mostly paper that you're sticking down, I'd go with Tombo or Hermafix brands. These are not liquid adhesives so you don't get any bleedthrough and they're not messy at all.  If you're sticking down bulky items, Glue Dot brand adhesives (yes, they're actual dots of glue, but they're designed for bulky and/or non-paper-based items, like ribbons, bottle caps, etc.). 

I've been scrapping for about 4 years now, very uncutesy type stuff, and the industry seems to be moving away from the kute kraptastic stuff that was so predominate a few years ago.  Thank goodness.

Your project sounds great; it will be fantastic to be able to see a chronology of what the kids have done.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2005 01:21:11 PM »

I'm currently in the process of making my first scrapbook, and I've found the post-bound book I'm using to be brilliant!! The extra pages come in packs of 5 and aren't too pricey, plus they come with extra posts to make the spine of your book wider if need be. Although the shop I bought it from only seemed to have 12" by 12" books, I'm not sure if they come in smaller sizes but it's perfect if you've got a lot of stuff to put in! x x x
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Carrie Zohn
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2005 04:39:21 AM »

I use memorobelia a lot in my scrapbooks but I have also taken to altering boxes and so forth to hold certain things that I'd rather not keep in a scrapbook (or are too bulky).  For artwork, you can always scan it and print it out on photo paper, etc.  I've used everything from Cadbury Egg foil from my candy to ticket stubs to lanyards to name tags.  Everything can be used without it looking cheesy.

Feel free to stop by our Altered Gallery.  This will give you another option if you're not feeling like making scrapbooks.  There are some incredible ideas here on how to preserve some memorbelia.

Also we specialize in scrapbooking so feel free to stop by our Message Board and ask questions.  We have some INCREDIBLE women who have been published in the scrapbooking magazines, work for manufacturers designing things with their products, etc.

Carrie Zohn
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