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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2006 04:04:33 PM »

LOL thats because everyone is trying to figure out whats going on! Definately post some pics!

"That which is creative must create itself -" Keats

« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2006 06:06:01 AM »

Woo hoo! I hit the jackpot of friendly advice! I asked about the sweater on Yahoo's 'Patterns of the Past: Vintage Knitting' (something I should've thought of in the first place as they excel at this sort of thing), and here's what they had to say:

Re: 3-Hour Sweater
Posted by: "KimLee K"
Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:27 pm (PST)

Yes, about 5 yrs ago. It is a fun pattern, and rather classic. The pattern calls for 4 st/ inch gauge

{ The reason you need 2 needle sizes: most people knit ribbing in a looser tension than stockinette. Make yourself a swatch of stockinette, and then continue in ribbing for about 12 rows. Use the same size needles for the entire swatch. Now measure the stitches on both ribbing and stockinette, and see what you get.}

I made one of those sweaters about 5 yrs ago, in Bernat baby yarn on size 6 and size 4 in a mock cable stitch for the body, in the round on circular needles, and ribbing as in the picture.

One other change.... I knit the bodice in one piece without seams, and picked the stitches I cast on for each sleeve. More work, yes. I hate seams, and did not rewriting the pattern for my own use. I tried the raglan sleeves separately and then tried to match the seams. It looked strange to me, so I ended up ripping back to the first row of rib and making a circular bodice. Bernat baby yarn does not knit up to 4 st to the inch on 4s and 6s for me;)

If you knit in the round, remember to make a notation on your pattern. Ex: The pattern says cast on 52 for the front, and 54 for the back. Cast on 102 and place a marker after 50 (the front) and 52 (the back). Why ? You have to eliminate 1 stitch on each end to account for the seam that is not there ! If you don't, the sleeves will not fit if you set in sleeves, and if you cast on/ pick up stitches like I do, those 2 stitches on each side have to go somewhere.

Does this make sense at all ?

~~KL in N TX

3 hour sweater
Posted by: "Sandi"
Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:33 pm (PST)
The reason for the change to larger needles is so you can shape an
item without increasing or decreasing sts. I use this method a lot in
making shaped items like legwarmers, hats, shrugs and other items that I want to make easily without having to do a lot of adjusting. Some items take up to 4 different sized needles but is a lot easier then remembering to dec every 3rd row or inc 2 each side of odd numbered rows while keeping pattern going smoothly. My sister made this sweater several times in the 50's and 60's but did a crocheted version because she couldn't knit. I made this sweater
when I learned to knit in 1958 at age 12. It is a comfortable sweater
and once you are used to the style, it does take just a few hours to
make it. Made so many of these that the pattern finally fell apart,
but then we thought all patterns would be available forever back then.
When you get used to making a variety of items the raglan style
won't seem so odd to you. You have to remember that older styles in a size 16 are not what a modern day size 16 measures. Wish I could still wear mine. The length of an item from back then can be different too, so you need to measure, measure, measure to get a size that will fit today's man, woman or child. good luck with the KAL

On top of which, one lady on the board actually has the original yarn!! I asked for pictures and hopefully she'll take some, as it would be most useful.

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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2006 06:26:31 AM »

scifibimoncon8, anyone who doubts the usefulness of the internet should be shown your post.  It's fantastic how much information is out there, and how many people are willing to help out a stranger.  I'm feeling the Christmas love, can you tell?!  Kiss

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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2006 07:43:28 AM »

For those who don't like seaming, this could be made that way easily. As the list poster posted, knit the body in the round to the armhole BOs, knit the sleeves the same way (dpns), then join and work the decreases in, probably evenly spaced. I think it could work.


« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2006 08:54:50 AM »

To those who doubt the power of the internet, I say, Behold! And yes, I am feeling some serious Christmas love. Or possibly fumes from all the pine-scented room sprays and candles.

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More nonsense abounds at http://rarerborealis.com/
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2006 12:14:58 PM »

I really don't think this project is that difficult if you can figure out the gauge. I was thinking of using Simply Soft because I have a crapload and I do have some vintagy colors as well.  According the the label its 4.5 stitches to 1 inch on size 8s and the pattern calls for 4 stitches to the inch. After the holidays I'll give it a shot and I'll totally clock myself Wink

"That which is creative must create itself -" Keats

« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2006 04:50:57 AM »

If you look at the pattern you will see that it calls for 5mm and 10mm needles, these are not "sizes" but measurements.  5mm metric = US 8  10mm metric = US 15

Also, at 4sts to inch and 52sts main body = 13 inches.  Or front plus back = 26 inches.  Apparently size 16 is not an adult size.  I have not had a size 26 inch bust in at least 40 years Grin  I don't think people were that much smaller in the 30s........ I just knit a sweater for my two year old nephew, 24 inch chest!!


« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2006 06:26:12 AM »

At 4sts/inch that would be the gauge for the smaller needles and so for the lower ribbing. With the larger needles, you'd have about 2st/inch so that would be nearly twice the size. They did used to wear sweaters very snug in the ribbing.


« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2006 05:01:05 PM »

I started knitting the sweater last night and I've got good news and bad news. Bad news is..theres no way you can get this thing done in 3 hrs unless youve made 30 of them before or took the highspeed out of your internet or something. Good news is-its super easy! After about 5 hrs of knitting I have the back and half of the front done. I'm pretty sure it will fit ok too because it stretches like crazy. I'm using some left over Caron's Simply Soft in a retro seafoam green on size 5s and 8s. We'll see if I can finish it tonight.

"That which is creative must create itself -" Keats

« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2006 11:58:35 PM »

Can't wait to see it - I'm so curious about this pattern!

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