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« on: October 21, 2006 06:00:20 AM »

so i picked up this beautiful old sewing machine at salvation army yesterday. and i was wondering if any one knows anything about it because it didn't come with directions. I an not a great seamstress, i mainly have been using my moms "old" but not this old machine, so i have a lot of questions as to the functions of it. Ive been searching on line and found how to thread it, but thats about it. it works pretty well, the Balance wheel doesn't turn very well I'm guessing it needs oil? my significant other said he would try and figure that part out later on today. Here is a picture of her

Here are my questions This little knob pops up, is it the reverse button? it not what is it?

does this knob change the tension? or size of stitches?

Next many levers and knobs, the top one on the left seems to change where the needle is? maybe its not supposed to do that?

if any one has any other usefull things i should know definitely tell me
Thank you all so much in advanced
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2006 07:52:42 AM »

The silver button on the left looks like tension to me. The top button is like a pressure thing you usually dont touch on my machine. Guess the needle position one is exactly that. Does the big brown button on right pushin for reverse? so does it just do straight? interesting, love to see what does what lol. u r brave with out the book. cyndi

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2006 08:39:09 AM »

I have my mom's old machine, which isn't as old as this one but looks a lot like it. I can't remember what the little knob on the top does but it's always up on mine, not pushed in.I actually don't remember the machine doing anything different whether it was up or down...might have something to do w/ darning if you're using that function?? 
The silver knob on the left with the numbers is definitely the tention. The other silver knob on the top in your last picture might be your different stiches.Mine looks a bit different but that's what mine is for and if it's moving your needle then it makes sense.

The other knob in the picture should then be your stitch length most likely, and if you check the center part of it, try pushing that in, if it is a button that you can push in, then that part is your reverse function. On mine I have to hold it in when I want to use it, it doesn't just stay in. I still don't know if that's normal or something wonky with my machine thought since I've never used any machine but this one.

Hope that helps a bit! Smiley


« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2006 10:15:41 AM »

that looks aot like mine only its a montgumery ward
the buton on top sets the pressure on the foot against the fabric i use mine alot, helpful for bulky things like layers of denium and canvas and plush fabric for animals ot terry.
the left knobby is the stich tension
the right smaller knobbt/lever thingy is the stitch selector and needle position
 the bigger right knobbt is stich length and reverse, press and hold the center for reverse.
the knobby on the right at the very bottom is to switch the feed dogs on and off for darning/krewl work if you turn that you will have to feed the fabric yourself. i use this option for quilting instead of a walking foot or blind foot since they wont fit my machine.

i love the colors of your new machine, ive been thinking of painting mine for awhile.
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2006 10:23:44 AM »

oh i forgot
since it looks like you have an extenal motor and belt be carful putting things next to it: cat tails can be pulled easily on the belt. Sad
i use large rubber band for belts on mine because real belts dont seem to fitand they are a pain to replace since i have to take the motor loose then add change the belt and re tighten the motor but i cant keep the belt tension and then the belt gets too loose.  So i found rubber bands work well for replacements 2 at a time.
before you use it make sure you have the right power for it or have it rewiredor use a power strip. some older machines can suck power or have really old wiring that needs to be checked. aluminum wiring and cause fires, (moms old house burned down from a fire caused by her machine ((freaky i know))) grounding is important.

« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2006 03:06:19 PM »

thank you so much every one who responded! one of the things i love best about crafter is how fast you get a responce, i have figured out how to reverse, by pushing in the brown button. we also have got it working and i am starting on making my halloween costume. hehehe it should be intresting to see how it goes. thank you all again so much for your help. i will bring it to a repair person once i am on brake from college, but my college is in the middle of no where, and i have looked for a repair place, but there are none close by. as for the power i am only keeping it plugged in when i am using it. being wicked paranoid to begin with i hardly ever keep anything plugged in when im not using it so that should reduce any hazards that might come up.
thanks again
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006 09:02:51 AM »

In terms of oiling, that's relatively simple.  On most older machines (but not all) the side cover (that covers the light on some, and is right to the upper left of the needle) and the top cover will open up.  If those will open, do so. 

Now get some sewing machine oil.   It MUST be sewing machine oil.  No WD40, no 3-in-one, etc.... those are BAD for your machine.  Sewing machine oil.

Turn the hand crank on your machine.  Look carefully inside the machine for anything that moves.  Place ONE drop of oil on each of the moving parts.  Close the covers.  Flip the machine over (so you're looking at the bottom) and do the same thing.

If you google, I'm sure you find some oiling diagrams for some older machines.  While there will be some differences, the basics are the same and will give you a starting place.

Right now, I am insanely jealous that you have a brown and pink sewing machine!

Making an effort to use proper English and not 'net slang makes me much more willing to respond to your post.
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