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911  KNITTING / Projects from the Stitch 'N B**ch Books by Debbie Stoller / Re: Stitch and Bitch on: January 27, 2006 02:41:33 PM
Here are links to two of my favorite independent booksellers who also sell their books online:



Both of them carry Debbie Stoller's Stitch 'n Bitch books (and plenty of other craft books, too!) and they are way nicer than Amazon or Barnes & Noble for purchasing books. You should check in your town, too, to see if there are any smaller independent bookshops or craft stores that could order the book for you if you'd rather keep it local. Most small bookstores will special order just about any book for you--all you have to do is ask!
912  KNITTING / Knitting: Discussion and Questions / Re: Illegal or my first troll... on: January 27, 2006 01:22:26 PM
I am also reading the thread about the stitch and bitch lawsuit and I am a little saddened about what all this crazy intellectual property rights talk is doing to the friendly DIY ethics of this community. People on craftster are not out to make money, we just like doing stuff and we like sharing with other people how we did it. Even if you don't post how you made something, there's someone out there on craftster who is going to look it the photo and figure it out on their own...
I think the key is being honest. If you say on your blog exactly what you've said here, I don't think it's a problem. You can say if you want that you were inspired to make the sweater based on a pattern you saw, but for pete's sake, if you knit a sweater from a pattern and you go to work or school and someone says "That's an awesome sweater! Where did you get it?" Are you then obligated to say "I knitted it from a pattern that belongs solely to the Whatever Corporation." Hell no! You're just going to say "Thanks--I made it myself!"

When large corporations send their design scouts out to forums like this to blatantly steal up and coming ideas, their lawyers put out any fires before it gets started and companies make money that way off of our DIY ethic. However, when well-meaning, honest people like us co-opt any ideas from the mainstream and change them to make them our own, it's viewed as stealing or ripping-off the man and we get in trouble. Double-yoo tee eff.

If you see something at Targhay and you know damn right well you can make it at home for less money (or even if you can't) you should not have intellectual property lawyers breathing down your neck asking for you to pay Targhay for the candle holder you made... And if you want to tell the world how you did it, so that other people can have the luxury of choosing to make it themselves instead of having to give their money away to someone else whose politics they may not agree with, you should  be able to post that knowledge in your blog or write it in your zine, or start a Stitch and Bitch in your town and show your friends how to do it, too.

Jeez louise. *sigh*
913  NEWS AND DISCUSSION ABOUT CRAFTSTER / Suggest New Boards and New Features / Re: request for new thread/I mean board(larger peoples clothing ideas and patterns)/ on: January 27, 2006 12:48:25 PM
I would support having a new board for plus sized folks to post clothing ideas/projects. All the cool kids are doing it these days! Wink
914  KNITTING / Knitting: Discussion and Questions / Re: Illegal or my first troll... on: January 27, 2006 08:43:15 AM
I guess "zokin" is pretty bad... it's like a cloth you would use to clean the floors and is considered very dirty and is sometimes used to refer to bitchy women.

So, you could "treat a troll like a zokin" but you certainly would not wear one on your head.

That's what a panta is for! Wink

(A cloth you use to wash the dishes might be called a fukin. This would be more for cleaning surfaces or dishes around the house--things considered less dirty. Also amusing in that it very much resembles a certain taboo word in the English language...)
915  KNITTING / Knitting: Discussion and Questions / Re: Illegal or my first troll... on: January 26, 2006 09:57:55 AM
Yup, it's pronounced /zoo-keen/ which is admittedly pretty cool, but I think the already widespread use of "panta" has solidified that term in craftster history. Wink Also, apparently a zukin is more like a head scarf... she showed me some great illustrations from a page about an old Japanese "hero" who stole gold coins from the rich and then sprinkled them on the roofs of the poor a la Robin Hood.

But I digress...

*sheepishly goes back to work*
916  KNITTING / Knitting: Completed Projects / Re: Meet Fang, young cousin of Spherey... on: January 26, 2006 09:52:07 AM
Omigosh, he looks like a little soy bean! So cute!
917  KNITTING / Knitting: Discussion and Questions / Re: Illegal or my first troll... on: January 26, 2006 09:50:03 AM
I think Pudruff's post solidifies it for me...

"Panta" is the new, craftster-invented term for "that thing that's not quite a hat, but is bigger than a headband!"

I have posted it in my cubicle as the word of the day in hopes that my fellow co-workers will see it and broaden the use of this new term to non-craftster circles.

The closest thing my Japanese co-worker could come up with is a very old word, zukin, which means something like a headscarf/kerchief.

I would like to thank this thread for great discussion, language lessons, an introduction to trolling, and an example of how best to do the right thing.  Smiley
918  KNITTING / Knitting: Discussion and Questions / Re: Illegal or my first troll... on: January 25, 2006 02:28:18 PM
I can't knit my way out of a hole, but I am fascinated by the politics of the panta and the craziness and incredible enthusiasm with which this thing has been knit on here and the discussions and pattern variations. I found the original pattern (maybe someone has already posted a link to it?) Anyway, not a word of it makes sense of course but here it is:


I must say that everyone on craftster looks way cooler in their pantas than this Brazilian model!

If you click on "skriv ut siden" it opens up a printable window that plainly says the pattern is provided as a "free pattern" (GRATIS OPPSKRIFT!!) so I'm pretty sure that legally you're in the clear, but if you are worried, maybe you could post the link to the whatever-language pattern and say that it's a modification of someone else's translation of that pattern.

I think your troll is also searching out other blogs with panta patterns and posting rude messages on their sites b/c I saw a few rude comments out there when I was searching for what this panta uproar was all about.

As an exciting aside, linguistically speaking...does anyone know if the word "panta" is a real word, or was that word actually invented here on craftster? I have looked around quite a bit and I think that maybe it's a brand new word! The Brazilian (?) site says it's a "Pannebnd" but it seems to me maybe that just translates as "headband".... If anyone knows the correct origin of the word, though, please set me straight.

919  Craft Swaps / ARCHIVE OF SWAPS THAT ARE TOTALLY FINISHED / Re: FAT GIRL/FAT GUY SWAP ROUND 2!!! (sign up: 2/1-2/15, send by 3/1) on: January 23, 2006 09:54:22 AM
This swap is for everyone who has to squeeze past the cup holders to sit down at the movies!
This swap is for anyone who has ever heard someone say "Damn, she sure can run fast... for a fat girl!"
It's for people who hate clothes shopping because the only things that ever fit are either neon green or covered in fringes or both!

(Ohmigod, this swap is for me!)

I agree that the swap is not about how chubby you happen to be... it's more about positive body image and enjoying who you are not in spite of what you look like, but BECAUSE OF what you look like Smiley
920  COOKING / Vegetarian / Vegan / Re: what to do with imitation ground meat????? on: January 20, 2006 08:00:12 AM
I have always wished there was an online cooking applet where you could put in three or four ingredients from your cabinet and it would then churn out a recipe for something tasty using those ingredients. For instance, faux ground beef + cream cheese + ritz crackers = Huh
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