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1  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: Nelco Model F-430 (sticker on bottom) on: July 13, 2014 07:47:07 AM
I did find some basic info. It is possible it is a trade name only, being a clone from a major manufacturer.
Lot of them out there,
You night try looking for necchi.    They are italian.
Seems there have been discussions with upper thread tension not working right on many models

here's a link. Your model isn't listed but they have an email link you might ask.


good luck
2  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: A moment of silence for my old singer. . . on: July 05, 2014 01:40:14 PM
I'm getting back into leather work. What I used to do by hand, I now need a machine.
Hand stitching is just too much on the hands these days.
But mostly back to the mountainman stuff.
Soft and hard (tooling) leather. belts holsters, sheaths etc,
Plus going to make some Capote's out of heavy wool blankets.

My machines   1957 singer 15-31  forward and reverse.. slavaged by lubing it properly
                    1960's        6211  little light weight, but has the convertible open arm.  ok for cloth  etc
                    1950's        401   will use it to replace the 15-31  as it has multi stitch built in and can do my lighter
                     new         Rex  rx607z    walking foot zig zag  forward / reverse medium weight leather   
                   new used   Juki 1508H   heavy duty leather   forward and reverse (still need to learn it)
                     new        Tippmann  Boss   hand stitcher (manual  lever operated)  heavy for holsters and Harness
Semi retired now so trying to get back in it as a hobby and a few bucks here and there.

As to Ella or anyone for that matter. If you make a post about something, you need to check it every day or so and if somebody replied to it, reply to them.  Say thanks at least.

Stopped here, because there was a series of stickies  about sewing machines.
I try to keep a small internet footprint.

Now excuse me. I blew a spark plug out of my suv today. Got to go rethread hole repair kit and put new one in.
Ford says it is a common problem from those years.   $150 just for the parts.
3  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: A moment of silence for my old singer. . . on: July 05, 2014 08:53:33 AM
It is very generous of you to offer your mechanical advice!  ahem, over 50 years of sewing makes me prone to confusion as well...ha ha ha

My first post here I was asking as a newbie to the forum, for help is finding an old model that would fit certain specific needs.  I preferred a convertible table. One that was a flat bed but could be removed to open arm.  All metal and at least basic zig zag. A few others.
Not one person responded with even any suggestions. Which was a little upsetting.
As we know over the years there have been hundreds if not thousands of brands  / models produced.
And no real place on the net to go to see and read them and figure out which would meet the needs best or come closest.
I don't know where most of you live but I'm in Wyoming. Not a lot of sewing machine shops here. So I turn to the net and forums.
Well I knew I preferred American made and older all metal. So went to the brand we all know Singer.
They gave me a list of 3 machines from the 1930's thru 1960's with the 401 being #1.
With that I found one at a good price.
Now I don't do all the fancy sewing some of you all do,  don't know the terminology. And certainly don't know all the newer machines and technology.  But I do know mechanics and how most things work.
And I definitely know how shops will try to deceive you if they can. Seen it many times.
So when they said her gears were rusting up and seizing I highly doubt that.
I bought one machine looked like it was steam cleaned, absolutely spotless.... but absolutely no lube either.
Lube it up and worked great.
As to motors  yea they can be hard to come by and if no longer made.....pricey. But they are usually out there if you look hard enough.   And in some cases you can find a motor shop that can rebuild them.
Other option  Ebay  look for a motor or machine like yours. Nothing else you got spare parts.
I look at it like car repairs. Id it better to repair or buy new (er).
If the over all car is in excellent shape and let's say the tranny went out. Average cost today $6000.
Ok a new car is $25 to $40000.    divide the new car price by 60 months and you have your monthly bill for 5 yr
divide the $6000 by 60 months and you have the monthly bill for 5 yr.  which can you afford best?
Same with your machine  a new replacement will likely be twice if not three times the cost of the motor.
And the new machine may not be as well built even though it had more features, many of which you may never use.
So is it really more economical than repairing the old one?

And I notice Ella hasn't been back, so don't know if she read suggestions or not.

Hope ya all have a nice day
4  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: A moment of silence for my old singer. . . on: July 04, 2014 08:02:23 AM
choo choo...my machine was over 50 years; Ella's was 15 years old...Grin

You do know there are two of us posting here.... Wink 

yeah I went back and re-read   I got condused.....  I'm old don't take much.

But on hers, I don't believe it is rust in the gears.
I think the shop just wants to sell her a new one.
John Deere just did that to me.
My mower motor failed.   I had them put a new one in and give me old one back $1200
Then they tried  to tell me my battery was shot. 1 yr old with 2 yr warranty from NAPA
I told them BULL!! then a hour later they changed the story.
Ohhh it finally took a charge.
Have had it at home now over a month. it starts every time.
A lot of shops hope you are gullible and will fall for their story.

So again, I make the offer with no guarantees.
Ship it to me if you want. Unless her motor is burned up and I doubt it. It is not rusted gears.
Also fif you check to make sure you had not released the handwheel?
5  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: I don't think the tension adjuster is working? on: July 04, 2014 07:53:56 AM
Maybe I'm off base  but.........
Most machines the upper thread tensioner (one she appears to be questioning) only works when the presser
foot is down.
So check the tensioner itself. It is spring loaded. If it is a used machine new to you, somebody could of done something to it (torn it apart and reassembled it wrong or lost a piece).
Also most pressure feet have a amount of pressure adjustment. There must be at least minimal pressure on the foot when down.

As to fabric being pulled down into the machine.
Again as another said you could have the wrong plate for the material and the type of stitch.
Also the pressure foot may have too much pressure on it.  Release the adjuster somewhat.

Also if the bobbin tension is way too tight for the thin flimsy material you may be sewing, it can pull the fabric down also. But then there will be other issues , such as balled up loops of thread under the material and caught in the bobbin area.
6  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: Vintage Aldens sewing machine--anyone have info on this brand?(semi-image heavy) on: July 03, 2014 08:27:20 PM
some basic research says Before alden was alden, which is just a badge name not an actual company
 Aldens was not really a company, but a label that was used on machines that were wholesaled by a distribution company
Kind of like sears Kenmore or Montgomery wards in house brands.
In 1844 Frank Mack and William S. Mack started the company in Cleveland, Ohio.
The Company made a sewing machine that was labeled as a Kenmore, and it was sold by Sears Roebuck & Co. in their fall 1919 catalog.  They also introduced a Sew handy machine in the 1920s.
The company was sold to Osaka Fur Machine Company and then it was eventually bought by the Singer Mfg. Company in 1929.
The Singer company made a featherweight sewing machine that looked like the Sew handy.  They kept the original features and added some of their own.  Singer called this a model 221 featherweight.
The company was originally incorporated in 1880 as the Teller Manufacturing Co. but changed its name to the Standard Sewing Machine Co. in 1884.
In 1928 the company was licenced by the Frederick Osann Co. to produce the famous Sewhandy lightweight sewing machines however shortly afterwards in 1929 the Standard Sewing Machine Co. became a subsiduary of the Fredrick Osann Co. although it continued to operate as a separate company.
In 1934 the Frederick Osann Co was itself taken over by the Singer Manufacturing Co.
hope this helps somewhat
7  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: A moment of silence for my old singer. . . on: July 03, 2014 07:30:07 PM
Can't tell from the picture for sure but I think you have a 5525.  correct?
There comes a point when fixing is too pricey  But you might contact Singer    singer.com
Ask them if motors are available. They have been very helpful for me.
They have a list of authorized repair shops on line. Might try that route.

Might also ask them for a model recommendation for what you do. In the old all metal models.

The 401 is a stout machine  got it on ebay $100 So far works like a champ on two layers of 4 oz tooling leather.
Draw back it is not a free arm. the dogs don't drop but the needle plate raises.
Maybe the 221 301 etc
On yours did it ever give off a bad odor like burning electrical?
If not  It could just need brushes.  It's not always a death sentence.

If you are careful you can get some good deals at Ebay.  got three older ones there, that I have since traded off or resold as I needed different more capabilities.

And not to be picky but 1980 til now is only  30+ years not 50.
8  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: A moment of silence for my old singer. . . on: July 03, 2014 06:00:08 PM
I find the repair shops diagnosis very unreliable.
Unless it was stored underwater those gears are not going to rust up and seize.
There could be other issues, but it isn't rust in the gears.
I would do one of two two things.
Take it to another shop   or send it to me.
I'm not a sewing machine mechanic, but I am a mechanic.
I'm guessing it is a gear drive motor and not a belt drive since you talk gears.
Bet it needs thoroughly cleaned and relubed and adjusted.
Possible the motor is shot or just needs new brushes.
9  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: Old Sewing Machine Help on: June 30, 2014 08:02:31 AM
because the adjuster is basically internal, unless you feel comfortable opening the machine up and finding the cause, I would suggest a local repair ship.
I looked at an online manual and it was no help.
But your problem is internal.
10  SEWING IN GENERAL / Sewing Machines: Discussion and Questions / Re: very new person need help selecting a machine on: June 18, 2014 03:42:16 PM
Did you read the sticky at the top of the forum, "Sewing Machines, a Buyers Guide"?  It's there so that the same info doesn't have to be posted for every single person who joins Craftster just to request info on buying a sewing machine.  There is also a search function, so you can find all the other posts of people who joined Craftster just to request info on buying a sewing machine.  
yep as a matter of fact I did, But needed more hands on information. Info from people that had been there done that and either that machine either worked or didn't.
But apparently, either no body comes here and reads, or they read and have no knowledge.
I did a lot of google searches, and when all else failed I went to Singer direct.
They gave me the info on two machines that would do most of what I wanted
If somebody here would of recommended a brand and model to look into. I would of done that too.
But apparently nobody has any info on older machines
I now have 2 singer 31-15.  A heavy duty Singer clone made in Japan.
A 6211 for lighter weight work
The new to me singer 401.
A Rex / Tuffsew/ consew unit for moderate leather
a Juki 1508 for the heavy stuff
and a Tippmann Boss for really heavy and traveling
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