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1  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: essential oils on: March 20, 2010 04:36:57 PM
I know this is an old topic but I just wanted to add to it.

The reason essential oils can smell horrible out of the bottle is that you are smelling them extremely magnified and concentrated. In a lot of cases you won't get a recognisable fragrance until the oil is diluted down dramatically. Try adding three drops of EO to 97 drops of carrier oil for a 3% dilution and this should give a truer picture of how the real plant smells.
Of course this percentage can be increased for things like soaping or there wouldn't be much fragrance at all. I'm just saying that EOs straight from the bottle don't often smell as they should, they need to be diluted then they will smell more true. Think of EO as a plant concentrate. You probably wouldn't drink cordial without watering it down either.
2  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Why can some things be EOs & others... not? on: March 20, 2010 04:23:13 PM
Oh gosh  Embarrassed You are most welcome.
Do google essential oil extraction methods though as I would hate to put anyone wrong, and it's nice to have a second opinion. Smiley
3  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Why can some things be EOs & others... not? on: March 19, 2010 06:31:41 PM
Yay, I love having someone around who know about this stuff!

 *blush* Thankyou MareMare.
I am certainly no expert though so I wouldn't want anyone taking my word as absolute gospel. It's Just what I've learned over the years and what I could remember off the top of my head.
Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Smiley It's been a while since I've studied extraction methods.
4  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Why can some things be EOs & others... not? on: March 19, 2010 04:45:06 PM
The story (feel free to skip down to The Question):
Last night, the BF's mom asked me about EOs versus FOs (as the incredibly patient BF sighed in the background and clicked through Gizmodo).  I gave her the basic rundown--synthetic v. natural, etc.  But then she asked, "Are there coffee EOs?"
"I don't think so," I said.  "You'd have to use an FO."
"Why not?" she asked.

And... I had no idea.

The question: Why not?  Coffee beans are oily.  Why are some things EOs but not others?  Why lavender but not gardenia?

I have a cabinet of these things but don't know how they're made or what makes certain ingredients (tulips, honeysuckle) unsuitable or impossible to make into EOs.

Enlightenment much appreciated!

EOs are produced by steam distillation which has already been mentioned. Some plants don't produce enough EO to make distilling viable, and others are ruined by heat.

Absolutes are different from EOs in that they contain more of the non water soluble parts of the plant making them more *complete*, and they are produced using solvents. A lot of Aromatherapists won't use absolutes as they believe some of the solvent will be left in the resulting *oil* making it less therapeutic. They are used extensively in high end perfumery though. This method is often used with plants which don't yield good results from steam distillation such as jasmine and some rose. They are often extremely costly though as it take a lot of plant material to produce.

Some plants will not yield a good *oil* with either of these methods such as violet, and are being tested using different methods so maybe in the future...

A more recent method called CO2 extraction may provide better results and also something called "headspace" (I think?) extraction.

I have had relatively good results using an oil maceration with flowers such as violet and use the resulting fragrant oil as a base in some of my oil based perfumes and solids.
5  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Hi from New Zealand! on: March 19, 2010 04:31:52 PM
Hi Miss Bloom! I was born in New Zealand (Auckland)! But I live in Australia... and Ive lived here for 21 years and Im 23 next week... lol I do have relatives that still live in NZ, where abouts in NZ to you live?

Hi there! Cheesy

I am in Wellington. Nice to *meet* you. Smiley
6  JEWELRY AND TRINKETS / Trinkets and Jewelry: Completed Projects: General / Re: Pearl Pendulum on: March 19, 2010 04:29:09 PM
I like the simplicity of it, very elegant!
Thankyou Smiley
I was going for a kind of Victorian feel. I think pearls and garnets were quite popular back then.
7  JEWELRY AND TRINKETS / Trinkets and Jewelry: Completed Projects: General / Pearl Pendulum on: March 18, 2010 02:01:51 PM
So I mainly make perfumes and stuff but I have been known to make other things as and when I need them like Tarot bags and Jewellery etc.
I actually worked making jewellery for about 6 years before my daughter was born (14 years ago now) but I do still enjoy dabbling every so often.

This particular pendulum is made with pearl, garnet, sterling silver and copper.

Thanks for looking Cheesy
8  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Hi from New Zealand! on: March 18, 2010 01:44:30 PM
Welcome!  This is a great board.  I haven't even explored most of it!

ylang ylang eo gives me splitting headaches ... love the scent but it doesn't love me
Thank you Smiley
From what I've seen so far Craftster is a veritable wealth of information. I'm so glad I found it.
I love the little retro pictures at the top of the pages and the blue gingham background lol.

Yes Ylang Ylang can be extremely potent. I recommend only use a drop or two in 5-10 ml carrier oil at first to get to know the fragrance and to get a truer picture of how it should smell. Straight from the bottle can be very overwhelming.
9  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Hi from New Zealand! on: March 18, 2010 01:39:09 PM
Ah, to live in a country with tea time!

Welcome!  I look forward to hearing more about your perfuming adventures!  I've not made perfumes (solid or sprays), but would really like to.  I just got ahold of some ylang ylang EO, and pretty much want to smell like it all of the time!  Grin
Thank you so much Cheesy Yes we call dinner time tea time lol!
Ah Miss Ylang! She is one of my absolute favourites! So rich and tropical. I pretty much have at least a drop or two of Ylang Ylang in *all* my creations lol!
10  BATH AND BEAUTY / Bath and Beauty: Discussion and Questions / Re: Hi from New Zealand! on: March 18, 2010 01:35:07 PM
I'm in Oregon, USA. West coast, so it's not quite my bedtime wednesday night lol!

So what kind of perfume do you make? Liquid or solid? I've only ever made solid perfume with a wax base and body sprays with a cyclomethicone base, I don't really know anything about blending or the more complicated bases. One of those things on my list to learn someday  Grin

I make both solid and oil based perfumes at present. I generally make natural perfumes with essential oils and absolutes etc but I do dabble in FOs as an accent if there is something I can't do easily with naturals.
Alcohol based is a bit of a pain here because of the regulations on buying perfumers alcohol (very difficult) and sending alcohol based products in the post. I have never tried cyclomethicone, though I do *try* to keep things as natural as possible. Smiley
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