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Title: Dreadlocks
Post by: CircusManager220 on March 21, 2004 11:56:40 AM
I would like to clear this up. Because everyone (not here or anything, at my school) seems to think you do not wash your hair when you want dreadlocks.

So I thought I would straighten this up:

To get dreadlocks you WASH your hair. You DO wash it.

You just DO NOT brush it.

Thanks!


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on March 21, 2004 04:58:37 PM
Its a loc ting! they don't overstand


Loc me....chop me
curl me....knot me
braid me...parade me
many folks degrade me


tease me....henna me
twist me....twirl me
brush me....spray me
curly perms betray me

part me....wet me
oil me....toyyyyyy with me
pullme  pluck me
love the way you touch me

wash me....towel me
gel me....smellme
happlily & naturally
even fingers tell me

what's my name?
hair.... locked in its  natural state.



Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: .feels.blind. on March 21, 2004 07:22:54 PM
yeah you wash them, but you just don't need to as much.  yeah also recently three of mine feel out so if this has happened to anyone can someone tell me how to prevent this again.


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on March 21, 2004 10:41:44 PM
It could  be  that  you are  overly  twisting your roots. By doing so  will destroy the  locing  process , weaken you hair and  it falls out.
I wash, palmroll the shaft , oil  my locs on the weekly bases, and tighten  the roots according to how much  new growth Ive sprung.
 I've been locing  for  a decade now. My current locs (my second sprout) are  2years old and counting.
 As far as maintaince, It  depends on the lenght, texture and age of locs on how often it should be washed.  
Before my locs were completely matured. I would shampoo and conditioned every 4 to 6weeks
In between shampoos, I would  dry clean my scalp with lemon juice ( natural cleanser) tea tree and lavender essential oils. to  remove any dirt/ debris  from  my sclap.
Also daily uses any heavy gels, wax or grease  attract dust and lint to your locs causing demage use a light  oil  instead.  


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: .feels.blind. on March 22, 2004 05:44:21 PM
i've had them for about 2 years and i haven't done anything except wash them pretty much since then.  i have tons of loose hair everywhere.


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on March 22, 2004 10:58:26 PM
 Your  locs  fell out  due to neglect.
You need to  tighten the roots by twistin the loose hair around the base of the locs so that it can become matted. Do this  after shampoos and add alittle  alcohol free gel to  help it stay.
Or get it  groomed professionally.
Good  luck D ;)


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: Lilitha on April 01, 2004 11:47:51 PM
I usually use a cheese cloth and clean out the dust and stuff if I really don't have time to clean my hair... but I don't know if this idea will work for dreads... since the only dreads I ever have are synth ones I make as pony falls or wigs..


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: goldigold on April 05, 2004 11:10:46 AM
Hi there!

I am a first time poster--had to talk about the hair.

I have had my locks for over 8 years:

1.  Locks are supposed to be naturally formed. Do not use gel, it will flake hair.  Full-o-locks is a nice oil based herbal hair product made by Praises; or you can steep some ground sage into some olive oil for at least 2 weeks.  Sage stimulates hair growth.

2. It can take 3 months to a year for your hair to lock --depending on texture.  It took my hair a year.

3.  During the summertime--I wash my hair at least once a week.  During the winter twice a month (It takes at least 8 hours for my  hair to dry).

4.  Twisting pops hair, some hair textures my need to be started (by twisting) after the initial lock--it will do it on its own.

5.  There are two types of locks. Designer-those who go to the salon to have their hair twisted and their "kitchen" trimmed, the new growth never shows. And natural or knotty dreds, your hair is washed with aloe, sea water or organic shampoos, your hair is an extension of your character, as you grow.....so does your hair.

6.  Do not comb or brush your hair.  This frustrates family and friends when they sleep over--they have to buy or bring their own combs, picks and brushes.  :P

7.  This me and my hair about 3 years ago. I pull out the icky dusty ends--not cut.
The picture is not the best, but you get the idea.



Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: hunny3701 on April 06, 2004 07:55:55 PM
 ;D
dude your locks are ill. my name is erica and i wanna get locks soooo bad but im not quite sure how to get started, do u have any pointers? if u do e mail me @ [email protected]


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: Lilitha on April 06, 2004 11:17:25 PM
I have to say...I like locks as long as they're clean... I think people have misconceptions that you don't wash hair to get dreads because some people do really do that.... er.. unfortunately from my experience... most people I know or run into don't wash their hair to get dreads.... you can imagine all this dust and stuff stuck in their hair... gahhhhh x_x


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: GummiSteph on April 08, 2004 12:27:37 PM
My boyfriend has had natural dreadlocks for about 3 years now.  He always has loose hair.  I usually use dread wax and a big quilting needle and actually sew the loose hair into the corresponding dreadlock. (this takes forever by the way, I must really love him..hehe)  His hair is tight and looks good for about a day and then all the loose hair comes out again!  Does anyone have an idea to get that loose hair to stay in.  My boyfriend and I will thank you!


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: goldigold on April 11, 2004 12:38:20 PM
When you say loose hair do you mean new growth or the loose tips on the ends of the hair that are about to break off?


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: GummiSteph on April 11, 2004 03:50:11 PM
I mean new growth.  His hair is over a foot long by now, and all the loose hair is under 4 inches in length.  I think it is the hair that was broken or damaged when he was first getting them, and now its growing back.  Because it is short and because he has caucasian hair, the hair won't stay in when we try to weave it back into his dreads.


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on April 17, 2004 12:13:16 AM
First of all to groom  you man's   hair you will  need to toss  out the  bees wax  it is not  your  friend  it will make your locs dull and dirty
use a non flaking  alcohol free gel. Aloe vera gel works as well it sticks nicely to the hair. Or if  you are feelin really organic, make your own gel with  the flesh of an aloe  leaf on puree in a blender.
Add scent a few drops essential oils such as sandalwood (sp) for  scent    
2. A blowdryer
3. a comb/ shears:  to separate/section bunched  matted locs like nyabiybi locs. you  know the kind that loc together  like one (optional)
4.Roller clips [ the silver kind that is  used with  the magnetic rollers ]  to hold lock in place


Working with a freshly  shampoo head of locs
braid/wrap the loose  hair around the  base, down the shaft, and to the end of the loc  
then apply a bit of gel to seal and smooth each loc  from base to end.
working always  in the  same direction twisting counter clock-wise is  preferable.
Secure w/clip as  you  go.
Then  use  blowdyer  to set
remove clips when are locs completely dry


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: Pblck on April 22, 2004 08:53:59 AM
Good af'noon people.  I'm in the early stages of re-growing my locs.  The first time I had them some 10yrs ago, I braided my hair and left it alone until it lockd down.  Washing's were few and far between.  This time around I'm twisting rather than braiding and trying to find out if there are any oils(or mixtures), I could use to cleanse, strengthen and promote general growth.  

Paz


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on April 22, 2004 09:29:14 AM
 I hope this helps  www.carolsdaughter.com (http://www.carolsdaughter.com)  all  natural products. The  tui oil  is light and excellent for  daily use. I also recommend Khoret amen  oil for deep hot oil treatments.


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: SpektrumFemme on April 22, 2004 01:40:57 PM
u could try carrot oil and bee's wax (my cuzin uses that on his dred's)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: artistrachelmarie on May 31, 2004 02:29:05 PM
i backcombed twisted and palm rolled mine...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: a besoin de parler on July 11, 2004 03:34:50 PM
Holy holy, where did you people learn?

NEVER USE GEL ON YOUR LOCKS!

The end.

No, really, be good to your hair.  Synthetic products make sythetic dreads that fall out in three weeks.  Natural products like aloe and beeswax, when melted in with a hairdryer, are awesome for locks because they cement the hair in place for locking.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreamyb on July 19, 2004 02:28:52 PM
ummmmm, i've heard that beeswax is a no-no. i understand that over time it will attract dirt and other undesireables. in addition, it's fairly difficult to wash out which equals locs that are full of buildup.

i would suggest people with naturally tightly coiled hair start with aloe gel or a something similar. i believe curlier hair has a tendency to lock faster because of its texture so beeswax is not necessary.

the poster who mentioned the locking combo of beeswax and aloe sounds like they are trying to glue the hair in place and that's not natural :(  and the addition of heat will only make it worse.

less products used = better locking outcome





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: a besoin de parler on July 19, 2004 07:45:12 PM
I have a username, you need not speak of me anonymously.

Hey, whatever works for you.  I used aloe on my roots and pure beeswax on the rest, and I locked up in about 4 months.  I've had them for two years and they've been good to me, no troubles.  If whatever you use worked for you, that's great.  This formula worked for me, without a gluey effect.

And I completely agree that less products make better dreads.  That's why I prefer to use natural products instead of gel.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreamyb on July 20, 2004 04:44:57 PM
I have a username, you need not speak of me anonymously.


mmkay,it wasn't a slight. i just simply forgot the name to actually post it ???

anyways, as i said previously if you (general, not specific) don't want cruddy locs avoid wax based products.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: girlypirate on August 02, 2004 04:18:39 PM
i was wondering if anyone has any specific tips for starting dreds with caucasian hair.  my boy wants them and has nice spirally curls, which should help the general caucasian problem with dreds, but i'd like any help i can get before i start in with the almond oil and the fingers.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 02, 2004 06:34:29 PM
I wish I could have dreads... everyone tells me that my hair is way to straight and thin to actually get decent locks though. Someone told me to perm my hair and then dread it. I dont know... to tell the truth I really dont know much about dreadlocks... Anyone have any success dreading thin straight caucasian hair?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Lady_In_Red on August 25, 2004 08:25:01 AM
Yeah, you can still wash your hair. But question: once you get dreadlocks, is there a way to ever take them out again?? Everyone I know who has gotten dreads have to cut them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: brokenclown on September 02, 2004 07:25:26 PM
How exactly do you get dreads?? My hair is long, dark brown, straight and thick. I hate it. A lot.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Lady_In_Red on September 02, 2004 08:26:54 PM
You just don't brush your hair.

Or you can make homemade ones with honey and tease your hair.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: girlypirate on September 03, 2004 07:30:14 AM
yeah, so i put dreads in my boy's hair and after three days he couldn't stand  them.  i cut them out and dyed his hair red.  oh well. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dragornaked on October 24, 2004 12:12:14 PM
Okay, so there's lots of differing opinions on what's best...that's cool; it's about whatever works for each, right? I have started locking my naturally cuniform/curly/"ethnic" hair and it's been about 3 months. I guess I didn't have a real idea of how long it takes; the 3mos to 1yr estimate is good to know, but I don't know if I'm patient enough for that.  I don't like my hair not looking "tidy"; it's all the loose hair.  *Sigh*

Anyway, I'm staying away from beeswax 'cause it made my hair dusty and dull.  I've switched to a water-based pomade/"water wax" type product to keep the locs a little more streamlined.  I still oil my hair, to keep it shiny and springy, after I wash it.  The thing that frustrates me is that several locs unravel  when I wash my hair.  Do I just have to put up with it and keep retwisting them until they "take"?  And it's only the hair on the very top of the crown; it seems like the hair on top is somehow "softer" than the rest.  Any words of wisdom on that?



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 24, 2004 02:15:07 PM
I've gone ahead with the dreads thing. I've been contemplating it for a long time and never went ahead with it because of my hair type (soft, silky, stick straight, thin, ash blonde, caucasian hair) and also because I never had anyone to guide me.
Things couldn't be going any better though. I have a little routine I use that works great for me. First off I only wash my hair once a week. Sometimes twice but usually only once.
Here is my little routine in steps:
1. I wash my dreads with a shampoo that contains no residues (I use dreadheadhq shampoo, and I'm going to start using this herbal one I bought at the health food store).

2. When I get out of the shower I make a towel turban (hehe) to soak up all the excess water.

3. I spray down my dreads with accelorator (water+citrus juices+sea salt). This makes my hair dry and fuzzy which really makes knotting up loose roots and stray hairs easier.

4. Blow dry my hair.

5. Tighten up all the loose roots with my flea comb (its actually a cat flea comb that works super great) and tuck in all the loose hairs.

6. Palm roll all my dreads till they all look nice and round.

7. Wax them with beeswax (I think it works great). Used in moderation of course. I only use the beeswax every two weeks. I also use a hairdryer that melts it into the dread and then I palm roll them all over again. ****I know alot of you are against the whole beeswax thing. But personally I think it works wonders for stubborn hair like mine, especially in the beginning.

8. During the week I sometimes spray my scalp and dreads with a solution of water and rosemary. Its made of 1 cup of water and 3/4 cup of rosemary that is boiled over the stove till it gets dark. It smells great and is very healthy for your scalp and locks. Its also great to use when your scalp gets itchy.

9. Although you may look like a fool if you answer the door early in the morning or in the middle of the night, wearing a nylong stocking over your head is a must. For me anyway. You just buy a pair of panty hose and put them over your head. Make a knot and cut the rest of the leg part off. It really helps prevent loose hairs and fuzzies getting stuck in your dreads.

This routing has really been working for me. I've had my dreads for over a month now and their looking fab.
This is before I got my dreads:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/misc/doorshalterfront.jpg

This is a closeup of how thin and straight my hair is (this was a long time ago but its just to show you how impossible the task seemed):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/misc/ME1.jpg

This was the day after I got them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/misc/dreadhead.jpg

This was about 2 weeks ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/friends-family%20and%20me/dreadies.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/friends-family%20and%20me/Picture023.jpg

This was about a week ago I guess:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Naked_Ninja/home-made/glowinthedarkpjs.jpg

I think things couldn't be going any better. Each time I was them they get tighter and skinnier. I can't wait to see what they will look like in a year from now!!!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hillarybillary on October 24, 2004 03:00:57 PM
Yeah, you can still wash your hair. But question: once you get dreadlocks, is there a way to ever take them out again?? Everyone I know who has gotten dreads have to cut them.

my briother had dreads for like 3 or 4 years and when he wanted his out my mother his girl friend and i used an entire bottle of  infusium 33 leave in conditoner and combs and all three of us gently combed his hair for about 12 hours.  he lost a TON of hair in the process and my mom had to snip some of it but the three of us did get them out. His hair was much much thinnner in the end. But he refused to cut it out. My mom had him use infusium 33 and horse conditoner after to help repair his hair. She is a hairdresser and she felt it would help it.
*h


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: blondage on October 26, 2004 08:03:07 PM
hot damn, Naked_Ninja, your dreadlocs look GREAT! I also have super straight, thin, blond, whitey white-girl hair and never thought I could dread it up - years of looking whistfully at my black and thick, curly haired friends' hot dreads! ;) I know that this thread has been beaten to death at this point, but any chance you would share your secret for starting yours?

Congrats on your fabulous locs!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dragornaked on November 06, 2004 03:40:12 AM
Naked_Ninja,

Yeah, blondage is right; even if we are beating a dead horse, I would like to hear more about your trials & errors with your dreads.  They really do look great!  My best friend would like to loc her ultra straight hair and would like to pass along the tips, especially for getting them started.  I understand that I have to just be patient with my own (which are steadily loc'ing up, thank goodness), but we don't even know the best way to get hers started.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on November 06, 2004 01:10:48 PM
I bought a dread kit from dreadheadhq (www.dreadheadhq.com) and washed my hair with the soap the day I was going to dread my hair. Then I sprayed it with the accelorator (its just sea salt - lemon  juice mixture), blow dried it, and then crimped it with the crimper. It made my hair really coarse and thick which made it really easy to dread.
I'm thinking of switching over to the knotty boy products though (www.knottyboy.com). Everyone says they are wonderful. I really like dreadheadhq, but I want to try the other one and see which one is better.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: missmorrison_89 on November 27, 2004 07:11:45 PM
OH MY JEALOUSY

i really want dreads but my mom wont let me get them professionally and i was always unsure of how exactly to do them myself.

i think when i go to the boyfriends house ill ask his cousin to do them for me and shock my mom when i go home (hehe)

can someone PRETTY PLEASE post a tutorial of how to get DIY dreads (one that a 5yr old would be able to follow... im not so good at stuff like this...) Thank you all SOOO much!



ashley


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on November 28, 2004 05:05:28 AM
well to start of with, ive got horrible straight thin icky hair due to genetics and over coloring... tadaa:

and the 3 dots are/were some sort of fashion statement for a while here... that was like ages ago to be honest, i just cant find a better pic of my not so great hair

anyhow, I really wanted dreads I just didnt want to pay someone to do it whilst complaining my hair was thin and dull and lifeless  >:(
so I decided to do it myself:
me in the morning after just finishing them... pff 8 hours

and then after about... 8 months now they look like this:
this about.. 2 months ago before i colored it again


after coloring


just wanted to say its totally possible to do it on straight thin hair
i love my dreads and im not taking them out n e time soon :D

ohyeh, i used beeswax, dont so much now, seen as they are allmost completely locked. but the wax was great for starting off with




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: missmorrison_89 on November 28, 2004 08:59:38 AM
see ultra blue... at least you look like a rockstar... me im all into like ripped jeans(not the store bought ones) and like environmental tees... im not sure if i could pull it off... urgh..
contemplates


Thanks
ashley


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: iloveyou330 on November 28, 2004 02:40:19 PM
omg ultrablue, you hair ROCKS!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on November 29, 2004 07:32:08 AM
personally i think anyone can pull it off... its just they way you act about it. Loads of ppl here hate it (holland... openminded and yet so not), but when im in England u see even buisness women having it that are like 40 odd... I think it depends on how much you care about what other people think

and thanx :)

and diy dreads... i cant tell you how simple it is...
if u wanna know just msg me on msn or maybe ill just post one here when i get to make pictures of my next "project" person :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on November 29, 2004 03:14:35 PM
Ultra Blue: Nice! I can't wait till mine lock up like that. Mine are still rookie dreads who can't decide wether or not they want to follow my instructions. So far so good though!

Back to the topic:
The thing with dreads is that people expect an instant hairstyle... Its different for everybody. It can take a few months to lock up or even years.

***So what does everyone use in their dreads? Any homemade remedies?***
I've already mentioned the rosemary stuff...
You can also make accelorator with sea salt and lemon juice (either from a real lemon or lemon juice in a bottle) and water. Boil all that over the stove till all the salt is disolved. You can adjust it to your taste and make sure not to get it on your scalp since the salt can give you the itches.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on November 29, 2004 03:37:44 PM
water and alcohol are great for drying the hair (thus making it tight)
u must remember that dreads arent the 'lets make my hair shine and gloss wonderfully' hairstyle.
i got away doing almost nothing with them
i slept with a panty on my head for 2 weeks till i got sick of it
i didnt wash them with proper shampoo at first, i used antibiotic soap (actually was great)
but i waxed atleast once every month
what i must say is that if you wash them, you should try to get out all of the wax residue... it gets smelly... i used hot water and loooads of soapy water...
also i dried my hair naturally, didnt use a towel seen as they leave fluff in your hair... i used the bedsheets for the gues bed  :D my mom loved that...

also destilated water? atleast it sounds like the dutch word... anyhow its water that all the minerals n such have been taken out of... u use it in chemistry class? that stuff is great as a locking agent

anyhow, if u want to splash out for some good products i suggest
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/
they also have instructions on how to do the dreads yourself

unfortunately i dont feel like online ordering so ive been doing with stuff called 'let's dread'
works fine

now im going to bed... tired


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on November 29, 2004 06:42:30 PM
Nice... I never new about the distilled water and the alcool and water thing.

Yeah I have dreadheadhq products... Their good but I want to experiment with different things.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viciouskittie on December 05, 2004 07:37:06 AM
a friend of mine just finally cut her locks off...they were pretty much down to her butt..she used to wrap them up with a bandana..looked cool..but she started having neck problems from the weight and being a tattoo artist this huge mound of hair didnt help her back either...anyways..when they were all cut, she had alot of little bald spots from having her hair like that for such a long time..its finally grown in and looks cute short...and thank you all so much for reminding people that yes you can wash your hair with dreads...i cant stand the smell nasty dreads i see...i just want to take the people home and wash their hair...th closest i got to dreads was when i got my hair done in braids and extensions and left em in forever...i love em if their neat and clean..so cute!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 05, 2004 09:52:24 AM
neck problems...
I personally hate having to wash my hair cuz of the ammount of water my hair retains... it puls my head backwards i feel its going to snap :(

and I think actually the braids and fake dreads get more dirty than your natural hair in dreads or braids. Hair cleans itself naturally after a while of not washing (not saying it smells or looks clean to the standards we live in) but synthetic stuff doesnt, and it traps grease n dust and icky stuff in it... the reason why i stopped using the fake dreads... plus they pulled on my tiny hairs at the front :( gave me red spots all over my forehead... hmm... they were cool tho

has anyone got an idea on how to minimize getting the little loops of hair at the top? i thread the dread thru it but it takes a while to look nice again :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 05, 2004 02:17:39 PM
Yeah... I have a friend who has really long thick hair. She often braids it herself. Because her hair weighs so much she gets migraines constantly and the doctor told her the only thing he could suggest was for her to cut her hair. I personally don't have any neckpains or anything of that sort, but that might be because my dreads are still relatively short.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: brokenclown on December 09, 2004 08:46:10 PM
Is there different types of ways to do dreadlocks? I know the backcombing way but is there any other ways you can do it yourself without going to a professional? I have long brown (all the way to my chest) naturally straight hair that is really thick. I wanted to get my hair dreaded since I think I can pull of the look, so if anyone has any tutorial or tips, I would be glad to hear it.

Email me: [email protected]


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 10, 2004 05:59:39 AM
Is there different types of ways to do dreadlocks? I know the backcombing way but is there any other ways you can do it yourself without going to a professional? I have long brown (all the way to my chest) naturally straight hair that is really thick. I wanted to get my hair dreaded since I think I can pull of the look, so if anyone has any tutorial or tips, I would be glad to hear it.

Email me: [email protected]

ok... there are 4 ways i can think of just right now:

-doing them by backcombing ( i did mine myself, takes a while but its doable)
-neglect method: not combing ure hair, letting it knot and then ripping it to form dreads
-wool method: rubbing an item of wool overe your head for *ages* untill the hair starts to knot up and then ripping it into dreads
-braid method: braiding your hair and then sorta neglect it, bit of backcombing *this method is the worst working one as far as im concerned... i have one dread done this way cuz of lazyness... it looks bad :(*

n e one else know any?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: missmorrison_89 on December 10, 2004 07:37:13 PM
some of my friends said that backcombing and using honey works well for dreads... i really wnat just like five in my hair- so can anyone tell me the best way to do it? i have medium thin brown hair... it gets kinda oily just so you know...


ashley


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 10, 2004 07:50:40 PM
You can always get a dread perm... but thats costs money doesn't produce real dread... just twisted hair. I think the only and best way to make dreads are by the backcombing method. It really isn't difficult. You'll need a friend to help you and some good instructions to get you started off.

These are the instructions I used. They really helped me.
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/make_dreadlocks_preparing_index.php

 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 11, 2004 04:26:29 AM
You can always get a dread perm... but thats costs money doesn't produce real dread... just twisted hair.

to be fair... a dread perm is a dread in a way... depending on how they do the combing
im holland if u get a dread perm, they backcomb it and then they perm it, so its the same as simply backcombing yet it has more "staying in its place power"

and if you only want 5 or so in your hair... wouldnt extentions be an option? and honey attracts flies... and other buggy animals or bears... and is sticky, you would turn into flypaper... :)
i wouldnt put honey in my hair, just use a wax without parrafin... so: no fructics, loreal, and so on, they all have it

and as i said before, get extentions 1st... they come in all sorts of colors, theyre fun. and maybe u dont even want the dreads after uve had those in. so its making sure u want em

im going back to bed *sick*


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 11, 2004 08:17:26 AM
True.. It depends on the salon. If they backcomb the hair first, then yes it would produce dreads. But there is another method where they just twist the hair and put perm stuff on it and then it comes out like locks of twisted hair. Its nice, but its not dreads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 11, 2004 08:35:35 AM
wonder why its called a dread perm then :-\
they should call it like a twisty perm or something...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Scarlett on December 11, 2004 01:42:57 PM
and if you only want 5 or so in your hair... wouldnt extentions be an option? and honey attracts flies... and other buggy animals or bears... and is sticky, you would turn into flypaper... :)
i wouldnt put honey in my hair, just use a wax without parrafin... so: no fructics, loreal, and so on, they all have it

and as i said before, get extentions 1st... they come in all sorts of colors, theyre fun. and maybe u dont even want the dreads after uve had those in. so its making sure u want em

Ultra Blue is a smart cookie with very good advice.  I wear dread falls to perform, and have learned two things:  I love the way I look with dreads, and I am absolutely not prepared to ever have permanent dreads.  :)  Making dread extensions is so so so easy, I learned how from Craftster!

Quinnster (http://www.quinnster.co.uk/) has all sorts of instructions for making and attaching fake dreads.  If you find it's too labor-intensive for your purposes, she also gives links for where to buy individual dreads.  Good luck, Ms_Morrison!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 11, 2004 02:12:36 PM
wonder why its called a dread perm then :-\
they should call it like a twisty perm or something...

My friend's mom is a hairdresser. She gives dread perms and explained the whole process to me. She also showed me some pictures and all that. They look like dreads, sorta, but when you get closer you can see that the hair is just twisted together to make a clump. It isn't dreaded.
Here is a little article I found...

Can you get dreads done by a hairstylist or at a salon?
A hair stylist can put your hair in a state that, with some work and patients, can become dreads ( can one of your friends for about $270 less). Salon methods for making dreads vary a lot from salon to salon. Some of them simply don't work and some look great. The most popular method for getting natural dreads is described in the Making Dreadlocks.
Many salons do what's called a dread perm. They wrap your hair on curler like rods and use a chemical solution to convince the hair its going to dread. The downsides to dread perms are price, hair damage and reoccurring maintenance. They cost between $200 and $300, they weaken the hair a lot which can cause breakage if you should decide to color it later and dread permed dreads require maintenance. As new hair grows you have to return to the salon and have string wrapped around your roots so they look nice.
Salons can also add pre-dreaded, synthetic hair extensions to the hair you already have. Of course your have to return to have the extensions moved up as your hair grows. They can not however make real dreads in a single sitting, phatty locks take time. All these methods work, don't knock'em, I'm just a fan of natural and I'm not into having to pay somebody $200 every 3 to 4 months to maintain my dreads. The bottom line is this, if you want "instant" dreads are not for you. It's not just a hair style, its a life style : )

The best use of a salon is to go there and find a friendly hair stylist, who, after reading through the instructions for dreading, can help you dread your hair. You'll have to pay them, probably $25-$30 an hour for her help, but you can be sure the sections will be nice and straight. A lot of people take the dread kit by the salon a day or two in advance so the stylist can check out the products, visit our website for tips and tricks and even give us a call and ask us some questions if they need to.
 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 12, 2004 04:38:20 AM
Well... that was interesting to read after you wake up :)

anyhooo... about going to the salon... its expencive to have them done here (150 eruo's standard and then 5 per dread,you will have atleast 50... and euros are near the same as $ so u figure it out!!!)
but they do have cheap, and by cheap i mean cheap if you arent the one playing, touchups going for 90 a pop, and i need it once or twice a year, its an extra nice thing i do for my hair because i love it :)
anyhow i forgot what im going on about, BUT ima smart cookie :) mmm cookie means breakfast


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 12, 2004 09:17:54 AM
By touchups you mean like fixing loose hairs and dreading the roots and all that? Yeah that's cool. If we had a salon that offered that kind of service here I would definately go there one or twice a year to get pampered. But for now, my mom fixes those things for me. *Thanks mom* She's the one who dreaded my hair and the one who helps me maintain it from time to time. It was a first for both of us... Just goes to show how easy dreading hair is.  If my mom (who is 50 yrs old) can do it, anyone can. You just need a little patience and some good instructions to get you started off. Thats all. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 25, 2004 03:17:56 AM
well for some reason... Im going to cut mine all off tonight :(
I feel sad about it, but on the otherhand i think its time...
my hair was in a bad state when i did them, so if i grow it out now and redo them in a year or so they will be greater and better than ever before! (or so i hope)
meh... this goes against all x-mas happiness and cheer


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: kukeit on December 25, 2004 05:50:08 AM
I've always wanted to know...

who invented dreads? and why do people wear them? ( I can only think of one reason - that it looks really cool and rastafarian.) In my language (in slang) we call them 'Rastot" (i.e. lot's of rastas)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Lady_In_Red on January 01, 2005 09:31:34 AM
Yeah... I have a friend who has really long thick hair. She often braids it herself. Because her hair weighs so much she gets migraines constantly and the doctor told her the only thing he could suggest was for her to cut her hair. I personally don't have any neckpains or anything of that sort, but that might be because my dreads are still relatively short.

That's insane.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 02, 2005 02:01:25 AM
I've always wanted to know...

who invented dreads? and why do people wear them? ( I can only think of one reason - that it looks really cool and rastafarian.) In my language (in slang) we call them 'Rastot" (i.e. lot's of rastas)

if i remember rightly *looked it up 2 years ago* dreads were "invented" by the slaves (yes i know, sounds bad as usualy by me). they were called dreadlocks because the white folk didnt think much of them: dreadfull locks of hair. they wear it that way because its an easy way to wear their hair (frizzy n such mostly) or because it suits them and they like it. in my language THEY call them 'gatver wat ranzig bah vies haar' or just plain wtf did u do to your wonderfull normal hair! personally i like it... and i miss mine!
but as for having little squares after having them out, i didnt have any. my bf cut them out and then washed my hair loads!!! nothing to complain about just healthy non dreaded hair... cant wait till its long again to start all over with a healthy start


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: goldigold on January 02, 2005 07:40:45 AM
Actually, locks (locs) have been a part of African culture......forever.  Traditional African hairstyles often depict someones age, social status, ethnic group, etc.  Locks are no different.  The term dreadlocks refer to Rastafarian culture, and was actually used as a pjorative term.  The slavers in Jamaica (British colony) dreaded the wat the matted hair looks.

For many locks are more than a style, it is a connection to culture, spirituality and liberation.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 02, 2005 09:25:43 AM
I heard that dreadlocks started around 2500 BC with an Indian deity by the name of Shiva who had dreaded hair. His worshippers also had dreaded hair. So it goes way way way back. Dreadlocks are even mentioned in the Bible. The reason why people wore dreadlocks was because they believed that spirituality, knowledge, and physical engergy exited through the top of the head and hair.... sooo people dreaded and matted their hair in order to keep these energies from escaping. A person with dreaded or matted hair was regarded as a wise, strong, and healthy.
In the 12th century a certain religion was formed (followed the Old and New Testament, African and Indian culture) and its followers were called "dreads" (as in a dreaded "fear" of god's wrath). They knotted their hair and thus the term dreadlocks was born.
The rastafarian connection was last... for some reason people automatically connect dreadlocks with rastafarians... but thats not where they originated.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on January 04, 2005 12:16:12 PM
 UMMmmmm....No one  culture  should  be  credited as the orginators of this  hair style. Different Tribes resident in Africa such as the Himmba, Massia, Samburu,fulani and turkana to name  a few, have been  locing  their since the  begining  of time. They  have always utilized their hair as a vehicle for expression as well spiritual well being.

Today wearing locs has transcennded the racial and  religious barriers. No longer is it a reflection of cultuural identification it now a simple fashion statement.

[edited to remove tons of white space - melidomi]


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: goldigold on January 04, 2005 02:08:14 PM
Gotta disagree with you organic sistah--locs go beyond a simple fashion statement.  There are many who continue to believe and treat their heads (and hair with respect), when one is growing locs there is still the belief of the development of good character and the development of spirituality.

It is a shame that a person can get "dread extensions"--which totally loses the point of growing locs.

I'm sure Siddartha was spinning around in Nirvana when power bracelets (actually mala prayer beads) were all the rage. 

There is actually a since of community between people who have locs for other reasons than fashion  be they People of Color or otherwise, because there was the understanding of what they are actually about. 

I have travelled around the world and there are plenty of bretheren and sisteren that have and give respect--and they are not fashionistas.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on January 04, 2005 02:17:11 PM
I like my fake dread ponyfalls... I'd much rather have a ton of wool hanging off my head than dye my hair by pouring carcinogenic chemicals all over my scalp. :P

(Here they are in action... since taking that pic I've added more layers to them so you don't see my real hair underneath so much ;D)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Kuolema_Nox/6066adde.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: organic_sistah on January 04, 2005 04:05:53 PM
[email protected] Kuolema Nox

I Feel like you misread me Goldigold, What I was trying  to convey was people with locs represent across section of society. Lauryn hill ,Mutubaraka, erykah badu, dude from Rage against the  machine have made locs apart of their  image.
Reasons for  letting they hair loc are as diverse as the wearers themselves.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: goldigold on January 04, 2005 06:06:32 PM
Well, um since you put it that way...kewel.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: kukeit on January 04, 2005 11:30:49 PM
woohoo!that's really fascinating. i'd love some dreads but I care too much about what people think of me at the moment so maybe when I'm older and bolder.

thanks for replying! and not ignoring!  ;D

reminds me a bit of samson and delilah...all that conserving of spiritual energy...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 05, 2005 02:25:20 PM
Awesome fake dreads! Good job.

Anyway, I think that everyone has their own personal reasons for growing locks. To me they represent a sense of liberation.  I used to be very shy, reserved 14 year old who didn't really have confidence or self-esteem. I too cared about what people thought. I always wanted locks but was always too afraid to go ahead with it. There was a point in my life where I was so shy that I wouldn't even go skateboarding at the local spots or parks (and skateboarding is something I truly enjoy and love). My shyness made me hide my talents fromt he world. Sad, but true. I missed out a lot. It took me a few years but by the time I was 17 I had changed... I still am changing. I would of gotten my dreadies a long time ago but my highschool didn't permit random acts of creativity or originality. So now I'm 19 and I'm in my 1st year of college. My dreads mark a new chapter in my life... One in which I play a bold, artistic, confident, and ambitious character. I'm a changed person... so I wanted to do something that would symbolize how I felt.

What is everyone elses reason for getting locks?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tigerEyes on January 05, 2005 05:39:40 PM
Awesome fake dreads! Good job.

Anyway, I think that everyone has their own personal reasons for growing locks. To me they represent a sense of liberation.  I used to be very shy, reserved 14 year old who didn't really have confidence or self-esteem. I too cared about what people thought. I always wanted locks but was always too afraid to go ahead with it. There was a point in my life where I was so shy that I wouldn't even go skateboarding at the local spots or parks (and skateboarding is something I truly enjoy and love). My shyness made me hide my talents fromt he world. Sad, but true. I missed out a lot. It took me a few years but by the time I was 17 I had changed... I still am changing. I would of gotten my dreadies a long time ago but my highschool didn't permit random acts of creativity or originality. So now I'm 19 and I'm in my 1st year of college. My dreads mark a new chapter in my life... One in which I play a bold, artistic, confident, and ambitious character. I'm a changed person... so I wanted to do something that would symbolize how I felt.

What is everyone elses reason for getting locks?

This is my second time locking my hair.  The first time was back in the summer of 1992 when my mother decided that she wasn't putting up with hair salons that didn't know shit about hair and hair breakage/chemical burns from perms.  I hated the idea but I couldn't fight her so she locked my hair.  When I returned to school I was taunted and teasted for four years until I when to high school.  By that time locs were more accepted by people than the early 90s.  In the summer of 1998 I decided to cut them off because I wanted a change and they're hard to keep up when your hair is past your butt.  Fast forward to last year after trying numerous ways to style my hair I found that locs were the easiest to keep up.  Plus, I'd missed them.  I went to a natural hair salon and for $85, my hair was relocked.  I don't regret it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on January 08, 2005 08:16:04 AM
I didn't specifically want to make fake dreads; I just wanted to try out purple hair without having to dye it and dreadlocks are the easiest style to make look good on ponyfalls. I'd like to make real dreads, but they probably wouldn't go with some of the stuff I like to wear (EGL stuff and the like).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: pixel_dust on January 18, 2005 03:40:00 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned (I didn't read all 5 pages of posts) but it's important to not SOAK your hair when you wash it... and pat it as dry as you can afterwards. Dreads can take a VERY LONG time to dry and you don't want mold growing and rotting them from the inside out.

vanessa.


Title: crochet hooks are magickly fun
Post by: ironica on February 20, 2005 09:59:39 PM
Come back from Bangkok recently, and all the street-side dreadlock lockers use crochet hooks - backcomb a bit, then twist and stick the very small hook in and out a lot, til it tangles up the hair inside.  I got them to finish off doing my hair, cos I was sick of slooowly parting and backcombing each one.  One of my friends did her dreadies that way too, I remember.  Once you get the knack, it is a pretty fast method.  It leaves them very tight too, altho it can hurt like hell.  However, I think possibly that they are a bit more unstable when washed than the backcombing method when it's done properly tight, so lots of waxy (etc...) aftercare is recommended.  Plus your hair looks a bit more rough for a week or two at first (it's all the tiny loops of crocheted hair).  My girlfriend had really messy long-term dreadlocks, and the Bangkok lockers set to work on her hair, crocheting in the 6 inches or so of loose hair (you wrap it around the dread first), tightening up the flaps... and by and large, most of it stayed in, unlike when I sewed it in with a needle.  She looked so different afterwards!    We met a few rasta Thai men (no women sadly) with dreads and the hair was so full-on neat & long with rounded ends, it looked like ropes.

I have white blonde dreads, use beeswax, don't wash much, no dirt so far.  I don't use very much beeswax at a time however; the last time I had dreads I piled on the wax like glue and they got all sticky and yucky and flat and I was happy when I cut them all off.  I don't know, I spend quite a bit of time around ferals, and I can't smell their dreads.  I do find the whole shiny silky hair thing a bit mystifying, so maybe it's a culture divide thing, if you love the ultra-clean aesthetic, anything else will seem festy by comparison.

Whatever method is used to *get* dreadlocks, I *really* recommend using a crochet hook to *maintain* them.  Any little loops or flaps?  Stick the crochet hook in the opposite side, and use the hook to draw the flap back in with a series of wiggling, pulling motions.  Gone, fantastic!  Also, I rounded off all the ends of my dreads really quickly, drawing all the loose end hair up into my dreads with the hook.  I keep needing to do more tightening and tucking of course, but it's always an iterative process.  I sit there reading sometimes, fiddling with my dreads and the hook when they're feeling a bit fuzzy or loose.  Plus a crochet hook is so very craftsey.  I recommend a 1mm hook for loose dreads, and down to a .25mm hook for tight dreads.

The other thing with a crochet hook is that you can give yourself dread extensions, with real or fake dreads.  I haven't tried this but I've seen stuff online, and it's a Bangkok thing too.  You leave about 2 inches loose on both your hair, and the hair you're hooking in, kind of mesh them in together, and start crocheting.  Afterwards, you can pull on them really hard, and it doesn't give, they lock together.  Wish I'd known that when I painstakingly sewed in my flame red dread extensions and they fell out a few weeks later when I washed them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: scuffmark21 on March 10, 2005 04:42:06 PM
is it possible to just have one or two locks? i am really interested in getting locks, but i dont know if i'm ready for the full commitment right away....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 10, 2005 07:16:52 PM
I don't see why not.  I once saw this girl who had locks but left her bangs unlocked.

ironica :
After reading your post I decided to go out and buy a crochet hook. Well let me tell you... It worked! I had these loops of straight hair sticking out from a few of my dreads and ends that just didn't want to get knotty. I also used to crochet hook to work on the ends of my dreads like you said.  They are perfectly rounded. It worked like a charm. I did almost all the front part of my head, now I have to tackle the back (a little more challenging but woth it). Thanks for posting this awesome tip!


I also wanted to comment on this new product that I'm using. I decided not to buy the dreadhead shampoo and caved into my bf's mom's melaleuca products. She swears by them and always tried to get me to buy the products... well I finally caved in after trying out this shampoo at her house. The shampoo is all natural and has melaleuca oil in it (its basically the same as tea tree oil). I love this shampoo... when your done washing your hair your hair smells so nice and the melaleuca oil is sooo refreshing on your scalp. Just in case anyone is interested:
http://www.melaleuca.com/wc/PLong.cfm?cnt=18&pi=4906&t=0

I just recently ordered some wax from knottyboy and was pretty interested in their peppermint spray... So I made some myself. Damn does it ever smell and feel good. All you need to make your own is some peppermint essential oil from a natrual food store. You use 15 drops per 100 ml of water. I always mix it with warm water but I don't think it makes a difference. Essential oil is around 7$ a bottle while the knotty boy spray is 15$. If you were to buy a bottle from knotty boy for every bottle you can make using one bottle of essential oil you'd be short at least 700 dollars. One bottle of peppermint oil can make at least 30 bottles of spray.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: smokingmonkey on May 12, 2005 10:56:11 AM
Sorry to dig up an old topic...

I've got two week old dreadpermed locks and a few pinchbraided extensions added for volume since I've got superthin wavy hair. I've been getting pinchbraided synthetic extensions for nearly 10 years, and the salon where I've always gone sort of "invented" the dreadperm 15 years ago.

Anyway - just wanted to give the point of view from the perm side of things. The only reason I got the dreadperm is because the salon does a class for stylists to teach their techniques and they needed "models" (or as I called it "guinea pigs") so I got the perm for free. Hair grows back. I'll do anything to it. I don't think I did it for fashion. Maybe because I think they look neat and fun hair makes me feel good - ergo my having multicolored extensions installed for so long.

So the process is pretty much what has been outlined here - hair is backcombed, twisted, then twisted onto perm rods and then really super nasty perm chemicals are used to make them stay. I hadn't gotten a perm since I was 12 (nearly 20 years ago) and I forgot how foul that stuff is.

One of the girls taking the class explained the crochet hook method. While you end up with nicely formed dreads, it can be painful and take a long long time and really shortens up your hair. I think I was at the salon for four or five hours, and that included having 9 different people working on my head at different times. It's funny, that I can tell who did individual dreads based on personality and talent as a stylist. She said the dreadperm method seemed to be a good way to go, and is far easier on the stlyist and client.

I can't remember how much they charge for dread maintenance, but you can do it on any dreads, natural or permed to tidy things up. I think I may try with crochet hooks though.

Saltwater and aloe gel were recommended for maintaining and rolling them, and Lush makes a sea salt shampoo that I used before I got the dreads, and plan on using when I wash them, which will be the first time this weekend. With the dreadperm they said to wait 3-4 weeks to wash it the first time, but my scalp is making me crazy. I've also been using the knottyboy peppermint spray, but my scalp has always been oily/flaky. They then recommend washing them about once a week.

Also... dreadpermed dreads are easy to pick out of a crowd, because when they're new, they're curly... they eventually straighten out though. After that they look just like any other natural dreads.

Pics of mine: (also an example of leaving bangs undreaded - and blue and blonde hair is synth hair added after the perm)

http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/pic02.jpg
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/pic03.jpg
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/pic04.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: littleone1098 on May 12, 2005 11:16:44 AM
smokingmonkey, I loooove your dreads! The bangs look really great....*sigh* if only I had enough guts.....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: RaeAmazon on May 21, 2005 12:54:40 PM
Ditto on all of that!!  I love those dreads too, and I am also a wimp when it comes to doing things to my hair. . .  Those look awesome though!  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on May 21, 2005 02:03:44 PM
Quote
im not sure if i could pull it off... urgh..
you could totally pull it off! if you actually bring in a comb and the wax, i'll put some in during a study hall.
i've wanted a few in my hair too, so it'd be neat to go through the process on somebody else's head before my own! ;)

and smokingmonkey, your dreads are amazing. they look so good!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: cutewhenyouscream on May 22, 2005 08:49:29 PM
well to start of with, ive got horrible straight thin icky hair due to genetics and over coloring... tadaa:
and the 3 dots are/were some sort of fashion statement for a while here... that was like ages ago to be honest, i just cant find a better pic of my not so great hair

anyhow, I really wanted dreads I just didnt want to pay someone to do it whilst complaining my hair was thin and dull and lifeless  >:(
so I decided to do it myself:
me in the morning after just finishing them... pff 8 hours
and then after about... 8 months now they look like this:
this about.. 2 months ago before i colored it again
after coloring

just wanted to say its totally possible to do it on straight thin hair
i love my dreads and im not taking them out n e time soon :D

ohyeh, i used beeswax, dont so much now, seen as they are allmost completely locked. but the wax was great for starting off with




i have to say. i think you have the coolest hair ever. i LOVE the last pic, your so damn cute!  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on May 23, 2005 03:43:39 PM
I have had my dreads for about 9 months, i back combed with random sections, but then i just went natural! I love them.




I hope all of those work! From personal experience I would say dont use wax, it seemed to make my hair rather dull and icky. Plus it attracts dust like... something really dusty. anyway, i wash my hair... occasionally and do nothing other than that. My hair was wavy and very thick to begin with.

PS: I LOVE all the other dreadlocks on here!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Guen on May 23, 2005 06:32:51 PM
I don't have dreads myself, but my boyfriend does, and I just needed to say that I absolutely love them.  He's had them for roughly four years and when he has them down, the longest ones reach down to his mid-back area.  He doesn't wax them very much, and usually just uses ivory soap to wash them.  He once was using some stuff from "Fruits&Passion" (a store we have here in Canada) that smelled like blackberries (I really liked that).  What ever he ends up using to wash them, my favorite is falling asleep next to him with his dreads all over the place.  And for those of you with dreads, do you find that some of your dreads almost have a personaity?  Not to sound crazy, but don't you find that there are some dreads that stand out more than others? maybe they're a bit thicker, or they have a kink in them. Anyways, I just wanted to put my two cents in and say that I find nice dreads very sexy.
guen


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: savethemanatees on June 14, 2005 09:14:02 PM
first off. i think ive always liked dreadlocks. i just never knew if they were for me or not. but ive always wanted them.
so its midnight and im reading all of your stories and then my mom calls and i tell her my dreadlock plan. ive been researching dreadlocks and have probably looked at 15 sites already. my mom is very prim and proper and she immediately said "dreadlocks" like she was absolutley disgusted. last year my sister was going to give me dreadlocks...but then she decided not too and spent a whole night twisting my hair until my scalp hurt..a lot....

anyways i love all your dreadlocks and i think since school just let out, that its a good time to start. im gonna ask my sister to take me to the store tomorrow so i can get some wax to start. my hair is sooo thick so im curious to see how it turns out. ill post later if i actually start.

thanx for the inspiration guys!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 15, 2005 09:31:08 AM
Awesome! Dreadlocks are a wonderful experience.

I'm not sure if I posted this yet... but here is another website to check out. Very wise dreadheads on this site... some are pretty biased but it's still a great place to go for advice.

www.knottylocks.tk


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Jaci on June 19, 2005 08:26:55 AM
I had hair almost down to my waist and I wanted to dread it sooooooo badly...preferrably a dreadperm but my local stylist charged $300! Stupidlyyyy....I had my boyfriend and one of our other friends do it, and I ended up with about 5 huge dreads for my whole head, one of which was in the shape of a fish and had to be cut out from the root. After about 3 hours of trying to untangle them, my mom just grabbed a pair of scissors in rage and cut my dreads up to my chin, which made it easier to take them out. Next day I got it cut by a stylist...and I love it! Still wish I could have had nice dreads, though.

The after pic...sorry for the terribly weird picture...it was the only one I already had on the internet. It goes just above my chin now and I have some big ol' bangs.
http://myspace-111.vo.llnwd.net/00133/11/15/133835111_l.jpg

And the infamous stylists: First and second guys on there. I can't believe I trusted them.
http://img150.echo.cx/img150/6619/hpim08135xu.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 19, 2005 10:18:09 AM
Wow... that really sucks.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: savethemanatees on June 23, 2005 03:34:14 AM
my mom still is reluctant but shes gonna ask our hair cutter lady bc she knows my hair since shes been cutting it for five years now...but shes prim n proper too... so shell probably take my moms side.

i looked up the dreadhead supa dupa dread kit but its 33 dollars and i dont know if my mom will get it for me bc shes the one with the credit card. is the dreadhead kit strictly online. not  in stores or anything?

and if u used dreadhead, how did it compare with other things. my mom only wants to get it if people swear by it or something. or did u prefer knottyboy or if u preferred the stuff that didnt come in a kit or anything.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 23, 2005 09:25:49 AM
Dreadheadhq pretty much sucks.
My boyfriend bought me their dread kit something like 5 years ago and I really didn't like their stuff so much after trying other products. 

I switched over to knotty boy but all I use is the wax. I use Neutrogena Anti-Residue shampoo - which you can find at Walmart or Costco (make sure your shampoo leaves no residues behind) and I make my own locking accelorator with lemon juice, water, and sea salt (which is the same stuff sold by dreadheadhq - also this shouldn't be used everyday because it will dry out your locks).
On the note of wax... MAKE SURE YOU DON't CAKE THE STUFF ON. A little goes a long way and it shouldn't be something you put on everyday. I hardly use it now since my dreads are tight enough to hold their own. The last time I used it was 2 months ago.  Wax isn't even needed to make dreads, but if you want them to look less fuzzy and a little bit more presentable, I suggest it. JUST DON'T GO OVERBOARD.... greasy dreads aren't attractive.

If you don't want to order shampoo from Knotty Boy, Dreadheadhq, or you can't find a non-residue shampoo you can try these companies - their shampoos are relatively cheaper than KB or DHHQ - and they are residue free:

http://www.enchantedsoapworks.com/
(owned by a very cool lady who knows what she's talking about)

http://phunkybrewster.com/Herbals.html
(look for the dreaddy soap bar - phunky has some of the most outrageous dreadlocks I've ever seen and she is one of the nicest people around. She hangs out on knottylocks.tk and always gives cool recepies and advice)

http://www.drbronner.com/general_shop.html
(I've heard many great things about dr.bronners soap. Never used it, but most of the dreaded people I know do)

You don't really need to order a dread kit. Personally I think they are a waste of money. I had one... and I could of made or ordered everything else for cheaper elsewhere.
If your backcombing, you can buy a metal tooth pet flea comb at walmart for cheaper. You can make your own accelorator. You can order shampoo online for way cheaper, and if you want to use wax you can order it seperately.

Just a few rules and tips you should know about (sorry if I'm repeating myself):
- NEVER wax your dreads when they are wet or damp
- NEVER put your dreads in a hat, sleep on them, tie them... when they're wet.
- shampoo as often as you'd like. (I shampoo once a week, but some other people shampoo ever 3 days - it's all personal preference really)
- when you shampoo focus on your scalp and don't rub with your hands, use your finger tips. Helps keep the frizz factor down and your dreads get rinsed with the soapy water.
- stay away from residues
- don't use conditionner (some people condition mature locks with essential oils and stuff, but I don't suggest it for new locks)
- elastics will eventually rot and stick to your dreads... if you want to tie your roots or tips, use string (embroidery floss works good)
- a small metal crochet hook works wonders for lumps, bumps, and frizzies.
- Don't follow the instructions on your wax. Use as little as possible and only when truely needed.
- Massage your scalp. It feels good and is good for your hair folicles and whatnot. I sometimes use peppermint oil on my fingertips... feels nice.
- if you want to keep the frizzies down a little, try sleeping with silk or satin pillowcases. Or you can sleep with a nilon stocking over your head, a tam, or a silk scarf wrapped around your head.
- Don't be afraid of loops, kinks, and lumps... this means your dreads are getting tighter.

that's all I can think of for now.

Also if you get the itchies - which you most likely will. These things should help:

- Boil a handful of rosemary in a pot with water. Let it get real dark and then strain the rosemary out. Put it in a spray bottle, or just let it cool down a little and pour it over your head. Focus on your scalp. This is good for dandruff and itchies. You can also add a few drops of peppermint essentail oil or lavender essential oil (It's usually 15 drops per 100ml - you can add less if you find it too strong). Just remember to focus on your scalp. Your dreads aren't itchy... your scalp is.

- Fill a spray bottle with hot water and add peppermint essential oil (remember *15 drops per 100ml). This is a quick fix that really feels cool on your scalp. Smells lovely too.

- Apple cider vinaigre rince. Mix 4 parts water to one part vinaigre. This holds many benefits and can also get rid of residues. For more info you can check this out:
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.ffaq.t64

Aloe vera is also quite awesome for dreadlocks... I would probably wait till they are a bit more mature though.

What you need to realize is that dreads don't always look "prim and proper". In the beginning they are fuzzy, messy, and can sometimes look like a huge mess on your head. They almost never do what you want them to. If your up to it... it's a wonderful experience.

If you want to show your mom some pictures check out the knotty pics section over at www.knottylocks.tk
Here are a few worth seeing:

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1063

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t986

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t990

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t651

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t599



Here are some fairly new locks. They all kind of look the same in the beginning.:

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t858

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t879
(his are extremely well backcombed. I've never seen any that looked this good in the beginning)

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t621

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t868

Hope I answered most of your questions.
Also Tea Tree Oil is a natural bug and lice repellent. Shampoo with tea tree oil in it is wonderful. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 23, 2005 09:37:03 AM
I posted pics earlier on in this thread... It's almost hard to believe all of the knowledge I've accumulated over the months. It's also hard to believe the progress they've made.

Here are my dreads at 9 months - if I'm not mistaken:






Here are the newest pics. Almost 11 month old.








Here is a little closeup... you can really see how they are starting to get all smooth and matted:


You can see the difference between 9 months and 11... just goes to show that dreads are ever changing and they get more and more beautiful with age. It takes a little patience, understanding, and acceptance, but it's well worth it in the end.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 23, 2005 12:41:06 PM
hey Naked_Ninja,

how long was ure hair when u dreaded it?
seen as i cut mine off  :-[ (needed a fresh start and EX boyfriend hated them) i want to get them again, and my hair is still quite short.. but what u have in the 2nd pic is fine as far as length goes, i just want my dreads back!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 23, 2005 12:50:02 PM
My hair was almost shoulder lenght.
I found my dreads really short for the first couple of months. They are finally starting to get some lenght now.

Yeah I can't imagine not having them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 24, 2005 01:15:05 PM
well i guess i'll just wait untill my hair is as long as it was when i first did it..  :-\
the only thing is, im going to opt for having it done by a so called professional, wonder what the cost will be (plan on having loads of smaller ones this time)
meh.. "instant" dreads, might be worth the cost


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 24, 2005 05:28:30 PM
I have no idea what the cost is like. I guess it would be worth it though. How long is your hair presently?

Personally I like fat dreads. But I like skinny ones too. I like them both really... Bah! I just like dreads period.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tigerEyes on June 25, 2005 08:50:03 AM
Just a few rules and tips you should know about (sorry if I'm repeating myself):
- NEVER wax your dreads when they are wet or damp
- NEVER put your dreads in a hat, sleep on them, tie them... when they're wet.
- shampoo as often as you'd like. (I shampoo once a week, but some other people shampoo ever 3 days - it's all personal preference really)
- when you shampoo focus on your scalp and don't rub with your hands, use your finger tips. Helps keep the frizz factor down and your dreads get rinsed with the soapy water.
- stay away from residues
- don't use conditionner (some people condition mature locks with essential oils and stuff, but I don't suggest it for new locks)
- elastics will eventually rot and stick to your dreads... if you want to tie your roots or tips, use string (embroidery floss works good)
- a small metal crochet hook works wonders for lumps, bumps, and frizzies.
- Don't follow the instructions on your wax. Use as little as possible and only when truely needed.
- Massage your scalp. It feels good and is good for your hair folicles and whatnot. I sometimes use peppermint oil on my fingertips... feels nice.
- if you want to keep the frizzies down a little, try sleeping with silk or satin pillowcases. Or you can sleep with a nilon stocking over your head, a tam, or a silk scarf wrapped around your head.
- Don't be afraid of loops, kinks, and lumps... this means your dreads are getting tighter.

that's all I can think of for now.

Also if you get the itchies - which you most likely will. These things should help:

- Boil a handful of rosemary in a pot with water. Let it get real dark and then strain the rosemary out. Put it in a spray bottle, or just let it cool down a little and pour it over your head. Focus on your scalp. This is good for dandruff and itchies. You can also add a few drops of peppermint essentail oil or lavender essential oil (It's usually 15 drops per 100ml - you can add less if you find it too strong). Just remember to focus on your scalp. Your dreads aren't itchy... your scalp is.

- Fill a spray bottle with hot water and add peppermint essential oil (remember *15 drops per 100ml). This is a quick fix that really feels cool on your scalp. Smells lovely too.

- Apple cider vinaigre rince. Mix 4 parts water to one part vinaigre. This holds many benefits and can also get rid of residues. For more info you can check this out:
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.ffaq.t64

Aloe vera is also quite awesome for dreadlocks... I would probably wait till they are a bit more mature though.

What you need to realize is that dreads don't always look "prim and proper". In the beginning they are fuzzy, messy, and can sometimes look like a huge mess on your head. They almost never do what you want them to. If your up to it... it's a wonderful experience.

Also Tea Tree Oil is a natural bug and lice repellent. Shampoo with tea tree oil in it is wonderful. 

I agree with most of what naked_ninja say; however, a lot of people I see where I live like their dreads to be super tight and neat so they go to natural hair salons every two weeks or so to get loc mainantance.  I personally don't have the $$ for it so I do it myself.  I don't get how a crochet hook can work to tighten my locs, maybe it's the hair type.

Anyway here are some pix of my hair now- I also colored it myself.






Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LedHead on June 25, 2005 08:53:59 AM
Fckadog The salon where I get maintenance on my dreads in Toronto costs 300$$ to get dreads done. She uses the crochet method. Its well worth it cos theyre so beautiful and instant, and only takes a couple hours. And plus you know the sections will be getting done properly. Meh. Good luck with your dreaddy adventures!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 25, 2005 09:09:15 AM
tigereyes:
I love your dreads. Very pretty. I also like the red.  :D

As for the crochet hook thing... I'm not sure if it is a hairtype thing. I bought this super small metal one and I stick it through my dread and pull all the fuzz and loose hairs in... I also did my tips and they are staying pretty blunt.  It works well for me. I actually got the tip from this thread.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tygra on June 25, 2005 09:22:09 AM
someone asked a question a while back in this thread about taking dreads out, and i thought i'd share my painful story: i had my dreads for about a year, and then i decided to take em out but i didn't wanna have to lose all my hair. not that it's a huge deal, i've had my head shaved before, but i had grad pix coming up in a few months, so i wanted to have at least *some* hair to work with.

anyways, i started by slowly integrating conditioner back into my hair washing routine so that my dreads would get slightly loose and such. then one night i finally cut em off leaving about 2 inches of "dread stem" all around. THEN i began the slow and extrememly *painful* process of trying to unravel the dread remains. it took a lot of combing, pulling with a crochet hook, time and tears, but over the course of 24 hours on and off i was done.

i lost a DISTURBING amount of hair during the process, and much of it still hasn't grown back properly because it was ripped right from the root, so i really don't recommend this process. just cut em off and deal with the pixiest of pixie cuts for a while. your scalp with thank you.

the *ONLY* benefit to doing this was the hilarious afro that i had once all the un-dreading was done.  ::)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 25, 2005 10:34:49 AM
tygra:
That really sucks. Sounds like an aweful and painful experience. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 26, 2005 10:41:14 AM
ouch, i know the feeling  :D i tried to do the same only gave up cuz of the pain
 
LedHead, i wish i lived where u do.. its cheap for me, 300 dollars.. i mean its 250 EURO's here to start with, then 5 euro's for each dread u have :(
i guess ill have to take a vacation to Toronto...
or just do it myself again...
or not do it?
or... go to the where the hairdressers get educated, whatsitcalled a school? :S
I guess I'll just be looking for somewhere to have it done cheaply here in holland


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 26, 2005 06:21:21 PM
You could always get it backcombed again.... I'm sure that any hairdressing school would jump at the opportunity to make dreads. Probably be able to get it done much cheaper there.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tigerEyes on June 27, 2005 07:11:13 PM
Fckadog and LedHead: I think I mentioned this before but it cost me $85 USD to have my hair dreaded again- I started with long hair.  I would suggest going to hair salons that specialize in African-American/black natural hair for getting dreadlocks.  They may charge more because of the hair texture but I don't see why they can't dread or at least do the maintenance.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Clever on June 28, 2005 08:32:25 AM
Representen for women with locs
C:\Documents and Settings\dhamilto\My Documents\My Pictures


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Clever on June 28, 2005 08:33:41 AM
I wash my locs every other day ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 28, 2005 10:18:15 AM
Clever:
Ah! Your picture isn't working. I think it's because your linking it from "My Documents"... Try uploading it to www.photobucket.com .... That should work.

tigerEyes :
Wouldn't it be better for someone with caucasian hair to see a loctitian who specializes in caucasian dreadlocks? I would think that a loctitian who specializes in african type hair would use different methods since there is such a difference between the two hair textures. 




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tigerEyes on June 28, 2005 07:07:28 PM
tigerEyes :
Wouldn't it be better for someone with caucasian hair to see a loctitian who specializes in caucasian dreadlocks? I would think that a loctitian who specializes in african type hair would use different methods since there is such a difference between the two hair textures. 

I see what you mean.  However there are caucasians with very thick, curly hair like africans that could techincally go to loctiticans specializing in african hair.  Plus some places use the same substances and methods to make dreadlocks. What needs to be created are salons that don't specialize for specific ethnic groups who want dreads.  I think that would be the best thing for everyone.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 28, 2005 07:42:36 PM
Damn I couldn't agree with you more on that one.

I find it weird how there are loctitians who specialize specifically in afrian or caucasian hair. They should know how to work with both hair types.

Also... damn all of you with curly thick hair... ... damn you all! I've always wanted curly hair... not that it matters anymore I guess. hehe. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Clever on June 29, 2005 10:16:54 AM
Since I couldnt figure out how to post a picture you all can check my hair photo album that documents my loc stages

www.fotki.com/clever

Comments and questions are welcomed


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 29, 2005 03:16:58 PM
Those are the thinnest locks I've ever seen. Absolutely gorgeous!
How old are they now?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on June 30, 2005 09:26:27 AM

hmm I just tried dying my dreads, I'll have to wait 'till there dry to see how it turns out, but I'm already fearing the result  :-\ I'll redo them a bit after that and cut my fringe in some way ( any ideas? ) since it got way to long. I'll post a pic then. I love looking at dready pics myself, so keep posting them :)
I've dreaded 9 heads by now, and it's really easy to do! most people look great with them anyway!

Mine need some serious revamping at the moment, so any ideas are welcome!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 30, 2005 09:54:11 AM
I would love to see some pictures!
I've never dyed my dreads. Contemplated it... but changed my mind.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on July 01, 2005 08:29:38 AM
i colored mine loads of times, no harm there as long as u dont use the conditioner and rinse the stuff out well.. not that when u wake up the next day your white pillow case will ahve turned blotchy pink


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Clever on July 06, 2005 07:36:47 AM
i'M IN THE 10TH MONTH Naked Ninja.  My loctician made them small she said it would fit me better.  I can do soo much with them.  They have actually gotten a lil thicker.

www.fotki.com/clever ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 06, 2005 07:45:49 AM
Awesome we are only 1 month appart! Wicked!
I think your dreads suit you a lot. The great thing about tiny locks is that they matt and knot up a lot faster than fat ones.

It's going to be 1 full year for me in august (got them in september). It's almost hard to believe. 




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Clever on July 13, 2005 02:11:27 PM
My locs were started September 12th of last year. We are right behind each other. Mines were started with a latch hook.  She used the interlocing technique.  How were your's started?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 13, 2005 02:33:01 PM
I backcombed mine... At the time it was the only method I knew existed. I've learned so much since then.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: razberryjam on July 14, 2005 09:29:44 PM
i had dreads for three years, and everyone told me that when i cut them open i would find numerous species of bugs living in them. i didn't believe them, but when the time came to let go of my beloved hair, i have to admit i did lock myself in the bathroom and sacrifice one lock to the slicing. and you know what? no bugs. knotted hair, some 2 year old dried up beeswax, but no bugs. dreads are beautiful, and that's that.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 15, 2005 08:57:05 AM
Someone actually said that you would find bugs living in your dreads? Hahah what a fool...

There are so many misconceptions about dreadlocks... it's crazy.
We should make flyers!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tygra on July 15, 2005 09:12:52 AM
razberryjam - that's so silly that people thought you would have bugs in there. i agree with naked_ninja that some "dreaducation" is in order. the worst i found when i cut mine was dried up wax and some lint.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on July 15, 2005 09:22:17 AM
Wow, I really want dreads now. Too bad I'm in military school still.
OK, any of you have problems with hats? I love hats and wear them all the time. Wouldn't having dreadlocks affect how the hat looks/fits?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: simplicity on July 15, 2005 09:28:28 AM
ya'll should check out http://www.knottyboy.com/ (http://www.knottyboy.com/) it's a place that sells stuff for dreads. They have pics of ppl that use the products and some of their dreads look amazing....i especially love the lil kids with the dreads....soooo cute


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: razberryjam on July 15, 2005 01:11:07 PM
when you have dreads, you get to wear tams! it's a whole new world of hats!

and i think dreaducation is a fine idea. we could also put to rest the misconception that dreads smell bad. they smell like hair. sometimes i used to put essential oils in mine for fun. a drop of egyptian musk was like walking in a cloud of heaven.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tygra on July 15, 2005 10:12:10 PM
OK, any of you have problems with hats? I love hats and wear them all the time. Wouldn't having dreadlocks affect how the hat looks/fits?

never had a problem with hats. i wore them all the time. the only hitch you may encounter is that some hats will fit more snuggly than they used to, and may subsequently squish up your dreads the just slightest bit, depending on how dense your dreads are. but seriously, i always rocked a newsboy cord cap, or a variety of toques in the winter. i also wore a lotta head scarfs.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 16, 2005 09:08:45 AM
the wallaby :
You can wear any hat with dreads. The only thing I've noticed is that I've gone up a hat size. Tams are awesome too.

razberryjam :
Yeah I usually make a spritz with water and essential oils. Mostly tea tree and peppermint. Yumm Yumm. Dreads definately don't stink... Unless the dreadlocked person gets a mold problem. But that can be corrected with a cider vinegar rinse. Damn people really need to get in the know.
Dreadeduction is a great idea.
I think I may just make some flyers and everytime someone asks me a question or looks at me weird I'll just give them a flyer.
I mean yesterday at the grocery store the cashier kept looking at me and then she asked "Does your hair still grow". Gosh!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on July 16, 2005 02:10:41 PM

oh my gosh. i almost died today. i went to my brother's apartment and met his roomates. both of which are starting dreads. oh my gosh and chris was so freaking good looking. i can't wait for his dreads to mature. and kat was wicked cool.
oh man..that apartment is like the cool hair club or something...2 with dreads and he has long wavy hair with purple ends. *jealous* haha


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jellybones on July 19, 2005 12:55:08 PM
HI.
So, I had dredlocks in the past but I had to take them out because they all started to dread together at my scalp into one big mess. I think this is because i put them up in a ponytail too much.
Well, I missed them a lot and TOMORROW I'm going to get them done at this ethnic salon. I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas about how i could save my new ones from having the same fate. (other than not pulling them back)
thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on July 19, 2005 02:32:00 PM

well, I just rip them apart at the scalp when I notice that the're tangling together, it might just hurt a little...

and when you have loose hair, make sure that you dread them back in the right dread...

that's all I can come up with now!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tygra on July 19, 2005 08:11:42 PM
and when you have loose hair, make sure that you dread them back in the right dread...

YES!!!! this is soooo true! cuz nothing sux more than when you're dread starts to grow and is trying to take a dread from the other side of your head with it! sooo ouchie!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on July 20, 2005 09:36:13 AM
Ok I finally got some pics of my dreads, they're not very good, but oh well...
 I've got them for about two years now, so they're getting along quite nice :-)

http://student.kuleuven.be/~s0107903/1Picture%20055.jpg

http://student.kuleuven.be/~s0107903/1Picture%20060.jpg

http://student.kuleuven.be/~s0107903/1Picture%20062.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 21, 2005 09:15:00 AM
Wow they are very pretty!

jellybones:
Like everyone else said... just rip them apart and try to sew the loose hairs back in the right dread.
Beads help too. If you notice one of your dreads trying to congo all the time just slip a bead close enough to the root and that will solve the problem.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jershyLA on July 22, 2005 09:51:00 AM
I am starting dreads. i have very thick curly coarse hair. i tried a lock gel but it was to flaky. so i 2 strand twisted my hair and have washed it once since. everyone says it will eventually lock but be loose on the ends. anyone know a nother way to start them. i can always unravel my twist and start over..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on July 22, 2005 09:59:45 AM

well, this is the way I make them and they've always turned out quite nice :)

- you take a strand of hair and backcombe it
- you take a much smaller strand of hair and crochet it in and out and around the strand you backcombed
- you spray some hairsrpay on it (not all kinds are good for this, I use L'Oréal Studio fx - invisi'spray -   
  superstrong)
- you immediatly go over it with a hairdryer and twist the lock at the same time

It sound smore complex than it actually is! Your hair will be quite stiff at first and you should leave it for like a week or two and after that when you wash them, repeat the last two steps and they'll turn out quite nice!
I can show you some pics of dreads that I made like this just after I did them! My dreads are done the exact same way!

I hope this helps!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 22, 2005 11:05:29 AM
Hairspray? I've been hearing that a lot lately.

There are a number of ways you can get dreadlocks... and the most important thing you should know is that absolutely no products are needed to create them. Hair knots naturally. Products are optional and all have their pros and cons. Another thing you should be aware of is that residues slow down the locking process... so stay clear from moisterizers and conditioners. USE A RESIDUE FREE SHAMPOO. You can shampoo as often as you'd like, but I definately would shampoo at least once a week or at the very least once every 2 weeks. Oily hair also slows down the locking process. Yet another thing you should be aware of is that dreadlocks aren't an instant style... no matter which method you choose, your locks will go through many changes before they become nice and tight.
So here are different ways of acheiving locks.

1) Let nature do it's thing - natural locks:
Throw away your brush and let your hair run wild. No matter what anyone says... ANY type of hair will lock and matte after a while. You can coax it while washing and rubbing your hair clockwise against your scalp. Don't forget to stay clear of residues. Although this method can take years to produce nice round tight locks... it's one heck of an experience.

2) Backcombing:
This is by far the most popular method. All you need is a metal tooth comb... I definately wouldn't suggest buying one online because you can go to a pet store and purchase a pet flea comb with finer teeth for half the price. Whatever anyone tells you... you don't need anything but a comb.
If you desire a more professional and clean look you can use wax or locking gel afterwards. Just make sure you use very little of it and not very often. I tell you this from experience. Excessive wax isn't good... Excessive anything isn't good. I used to wax often till I realized it wasn't necessary. I only wax my dreads once a month or once every 2 to 3 months.
Here are some instructions that you don't need to follow word for word:
http://www.knottyboy.com/learn/howtodread.php
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/

This is the method I used and it worked great. To prepare my hair I washed with nonresidue shampoo and then sprayed my hair with my own mixture of sea salt, lemon juice, and water (about 2 table spoons of each in a spray bottle full of hot water) and then I crimped it to make my hair easier to knot. It wasn't necessary but it helped. The sea salt, water, and lemon juice mixture can also be used later on as a locking accelorator. Not needed, but it helps a little. If it is used too often it can make your hair very brittle so be careful.

3) Twist and rip:
I really don't know much about this method but here is the information I gathered:
1. While washing your hair rub your hair in a clockwise motion flat against your head, you can switch hands, but make sure you continue in the same clockwise motion.

2. Let your hair dry, and then rip the giant knot apart into sections.

3. Take each section, twist it, wax it (or not it's up to you), and then palm roll it.

Continue these steps everyday until the sections have formed.
With this method you wash your hair everyday.
You can put rubber bands where you want the sections to be, so you can keep up with them everyday. You will form dreads in about 4 months.


4) dread perm:
I wouldn't suggest it because perm chemicals are super harsh and can leave your hair brittle... but if you want something that is pretty much instant go right ahead. Just make double sure that your working with a loctitian and not just some hairdresser who thinks she knows what she is talking about... many many people get ripped off this way since hairdressers just perm the hair so tightly it looks like locks but isn't and never will be. So just make sure your dealing with a good salon.

5) Synthetic dreads:
Awesome for people who are looking for something that isn't permanent.
http://www.hairpolice.com/servsynthdreads.shtml

Anyway... hope this helped a little.
Just remember that dreads will form naturally with time so products aren't necessary. If you decide to use products don't gloop them on because a little goes a long way.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jershyLA on July 22, 2005 11:18:35 AM
okay,
so i think it would be fun to just let it grow and knot on its on. i'm sure to drive my man insane:) tahnks


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on July 22, 2005 11:32:19 AM
Hairspray? I've been hearing that a lot lately.



yeah, when you put the hairdryer on it, it first turns kind of glueish and the next secon it's just dry and hard and very easy to wash out! It just keeps the backcombed hair together well, so it doesn't start unravelling! I had my doubts about it in the beginning, but think it's great now :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LivinEasy on July 22, 2005 12:20:43 PM
Whoa.
Twist and rip.
That sounds so unbelievably painful.
Whoa.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 22, 2005 12:33:01 PM
I've never liked hairspray... Never used it when my hair was straight... and I don't think I would use it now. But if it works it works I guess. Isn't it really icky and stiff?
I didn't use anything except sea salt, lemon juice, and water as well as a teeny tiny bit of wax at the tips and my backcombed locks never unraveled. If your extremely worried about unravelling you could pop some elastics on the tips which will do the same thing without the stickiness and chemicals. Elastics shouldn't be worn for long though because they eventually kind of rot into your dreads... or even better you could use embroidery floss to thread in the tips (which definately won't rot into your dread):
http://www.enchantedsoapworks.com/making_blunt_dreads.html




Just for the record here are some good non residue shampoos:

http://www.enchantedsoapworks.com/all_things_knotty.html

http://www.phunkybrewster.com/Herbals.html (look for the dready bar soap)

http://www.drbronner.com/

www.knottyboy.com

http://www.giovannicosmetics.com/index.html (their tea tree triple threat is supposedly the best of the best for locks)

and if you can't order online you can pick up a bottle of Neutrogena Anti-Residue shampoo almost anywhere. If you have a Costco they sell it in bulk for only $9.99 (canadian) and Walmart also has but it a much smaller format for $6.99.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 22, 2005 12:48:47 PM
jershyLA:
If you want to get a better look at what natural locks look like here are a few pics..

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t816

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1187

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1163

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1154

http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t790


Hope this gives you a little idea of natural locks in development and what they look like down the line... Essentially every method ends up looking the same down the line... some methods allow you to get there faster while others seem to make the process quite slow.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jershyLA on July 28, 2005 02:42:28 PM
okay its been two weeks. i think the hardest thing so far is leaving it alone. i love to mess in my hair. my hair looks locked but i know it may take a while before it actually does.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jellybones on July 29, 2005 09:03:35 PM
I've been having so much trouble keeping my dreadlocks in line! they are new so i guess i should expect it. the tips are really long and i cant wait until i can cut them off. I noticed that most of the problem areas were on the part of my hair where i was sleeping. Does anyone have any ways of solving this?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 01, 2005 09:28:29 AM
Solve what? Sounds perfectly natural. Expect messyness where you sleep because that is where your hair gets the most action... this is a good thing... you want this... it just means your hair is knotting up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on August 01, 2005 12:22:40 PM

hmm, sound slike what naked ninja says! but if you mean that they're untangling, I once read that you could pull one of those panty-stocking things over your dreads... don't know if it would work... but you could try... and take a picture whilest at it  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tygra on August 01, 2005 12:35:58 PM
I noticed that most of the problem areas were on the part of my hair where i was sleeping. Does anyone have any ways of solving this?
I once read that you could pull one of those panty-stocking things over your dreads.

so i actually did the pantyhose thing when i had my dreads, mostly after i waxed em just so i wouldn't get gunk all over my nice pillows etc. i would separate my dreads into two pigtail type dealies (no elastics though, just gathered them in two sections) and then stick one section down one pantyhose leg, and the other down the other leg. then i'd wrap the two leg parts around my head and knot them at the top or whatever. it looked HILARIOUS and my mamma made fun of me, but it totally did the trick! ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jellybones on August 02, 2005 07:58:24 AM

hmm, sound slike what naked ninja says! but if you mean that they're untangling, I once read that you could pull one of those panty-stocking things over your dreads... don't know if it would work... but you could try... and take a picture whilest at it  :D

i meant they were untangling, sorry. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on August 02, 2005 10:54:32 AM

go for the pantyhose  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 03, 2005 08:21:48 AM
They were about 3 week old in that picture... I definately do not miss them at that stage. So fuzzy, squishy, and poofy. I almost can't believe they used to look like that. Weird... You really can't tell from the pictures.
Anyway you really can't base what your dreads will look like by looking at others dreads... Litterally I've never seen 2 identical sets of dreads. They all have their own characteristics... so there is no way of predicting what your dreads will look like at what stage.
The only thing I could suggest telling your mom is that at the end of the day... it's just hair. If worst comes to worst you could always try combing them out or even just cut them and your hair will grow back. No big deal. It's not like your getting a nazi sign tattooed on your ass.  :D



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 04, 2005 09:12:02 PM
please dreaducate me!

When you wash your hair what exactly do you do? wash the scalp and each dread? sorry for the ignorant question- but noone i've ever known has had them. and i'm thinking about getting them.
also, i have very oily hair-but with dandruff- aka seborrihic dermatitis. can i still dread my hair?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 05, 2005 07:36:35 PM
You just wash your dreads like you would wash normal hair, just focus on your scalp a little more. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE RESIDUES.
As for your scalp problem, maybe you should first get that inline with your family doctor because I'm thinking it would be hell to deal with your condition while having dreads. I'm not trying to discourage you but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a good experience. So get that in check first and then go for it if it is still what you want.

Most of the time people suffer from dandruff because of what they are putting in their hair. Switch shampoo... and if you're really serious about locks, try using a dread-friendly (non residue) shampoo for a while before getting locked up and ditch the conditionner. This may not only help with your dandruff but it will also get rid of all the nasty buildup on your hair which will make locking up easier.

Here are some links to dreadfriendly shampoos:

http://www.enchantedsoapworks.com/
(owned by a very cool lady who knows what she's talking about)

http://phunkybrewster.com/Herbals.html
(look for the dreaddy soap bar - phunky has some of the most outrageous dreadlocks I've ever seen and she is one of the nicest people around. She hangs out on knottylocks.tk and always gives cool recepies and advice)

http://www.drbronner.com/general_shop.html
(I've heard many great things about dr.bronners soap. Never used it, but most of the dreaded people I know do)

www.knottyboy.com

http://www.giovannicosmetics.com/
(I've heard nothing but great things about their tea tree triple threat shampoo)


Another thing you may consider is an apple cider vinegar rinse (which i mentioned somewhere in this post) or a rosemary rinse (boil a handful of rosemary in water on the stove till it gets dark and then strain, let cool, and pour over your scalp). This may help with your dandruff. My bf used the rosemary rinse and it worked... and his head looked like the North Pole.

Yet another thing you could do is go see your doctor and get some medicated shampoo that treats it. Selson Blue works wonders..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 05, 2005 09:41:42 PM
yep! i've been to the doctor's and i have selsun blue right now. i don't think i'll be able to get dreads until i move out (in a few years) so i have time to work things out. thanks for answering my questions!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Baddscorpio on August 15, 2005 03:34:06 PM
Your hair in that last pic ninja reminds me of Sideshow Bob, I think that's his name,  on the Simpsons.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 15, 2005 07:30:18 PM
Holy 16 pages of dreadlock info!  I guess my dreads are around 8-9 years old.  I started them using the ol' wash without conditioning and wore a wool tam for the first 6 months.  I heard natural fiber hats are best for starting dreads cuz they stimulate the hair to knot up vs. acrylic hats.  Can anyone verify this?  Then about a year into the project I discovered a whole lota blonde haired kids over at Knotty Boy with dreads and tried some of their products. 

When I started I just let them form themselves and pulled apart the pieces that looked like they wanted to separate.  If I had it to do over I think I would have sectioned my hair and rolled and twisted it for a better manicured look.  It's just that I have pieces of hair from all over my head now locked up together in one dread! oops! 

Soooooo, I was thinking of bleaching and dying a couple dreads like, hot pink, maybe, but have always wanted to keep my hair as natural as possible.  Now that I see the fake dreads people are making and am thinking that that's probably the way to go for me.  Any suggestions on how to attach a couple to some dreads?  I guess it could be removable, right?

Here's a picture of my dreads a few months ago.  Sorry for the Wonder Woman handbag shot.  It's the only good picture of them I could find at the moment!



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: GlitterInfection on August 16, 2005 04:59:55 AM
^ That is some of the most beautiful hair I've ever seen. EVER.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on August 16, 2005 01:38:16 PM

WOW! those look amazing  :o I wouldn't touch them if I were you, they are alredy amazing!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 16, 2005 05:00:58 PM
you have THE most gorgeous dreads. i'll try to find a link i saw somewhere on here... it was really informative on fake dreads, adding them to real ones, etc.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 16, 2005 05:14:35 PM
GlitterInfection, spelf, jm2luver21>>awwwww shucks!  Thanks!

I'm thinking I can probably just hook up a couple of fake dreads to some little snappy barrettes and attach them to my scalp since I usually wear a scarf to tie my real ones back with or just pile them on top of my head.  I haven't found the tutorial on how to make the fake dreads yet.  I imagine their made out of a dyed wool roving with a lot of backcombing and twisting and felting?

jm2luver21>>  please post it if you find it!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2005 08:20:35 AM
ragamufyn:
Why don't you try sewing them onto the tips of your dreads? If your making them yourself, leave some string (or whatever it is your using) to play with at the top of the dread and then use it to sew it to the tips of your dreads... That might work. I really have no idea because I've never tried it.

Also why don't you just try wrapping some of your dreads with embroidery floss? That stuff comes in tons of colors and isn't permanent like hair dye.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 17, 2005 11:28:55 AM
i REALLY need to find that link. it had the BEST info on fake dreads and how to attatch them, EVERYTHING!!!! i know i saw it on craftster somewhere. can someone help me look? :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LivinEasy on August 17, 2005 11:43:59 AM
jm2luver21, I don't know but maybe this is the link: http://www.angrycaninelovestick.org/
I found it on this craftster thread: https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=31984.0


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 17, 2005 11:56:09 AM
YES YES YES! that's it! thanks you so mcuh! i dont know why i couldn't find it before- i looked for an hour!

there you go, ragamufyn!

http://www.angrycaninelovestick.org/


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: smokingmonkey on August 17, 2005 11:56:37 AM
Comment someone asked a few pages ago on wearing hats.

If you ride a motorcycle or scooter, and you want dreads, be prepared to have to buy a new helmet! Since I had hair added on after the dreads, it was worse for me, but my helmet size went up *TWO* sizes - from L to XXL. I look like an alien with it on because it's so huge.

I can't even get the old helmet on past my forehead. (I'm talking full face helmet)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LivinEasy on August 17, 2005 12:02:32 PM
YES YES YES! that's it! thanks you so mcuh! i dont know why i couldn't find it before- i looked for an hour!

Just a quick FYI: the search word I used to find that link was "falls" insead of "dreads". If anyone is looking for fake dreads,"falls" may be a better word to google. I don't know much about 'em just dig it when ladies rock 'em.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spelf on August 17, 2005 12:10:50 PM

just make double ended wool dreads, braid them in for about 4 cm and attach with a little bit of string or a  tiny elastic (very easy for removing them and they stay atached really well)... And show us what it ends up looking like!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 17, 2005 12:19:36 PM
http://www.hairpolice.com/servsynthdreads.shtml

here's another link you may want to look at! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 17, 2005 12:50:10 PM
Those links are fabulous!!  Thanks!!!  Now I'm thinkin' maybe I need some hot pink & lime green ones!  I want to hook them to my scalp.  I know I don't want mine any longer than they already are!  I like the idea of just sewing them on!  Anyone know the reason they use synthetic hair over a natural wool?  Wool to sheepy for them?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 17, 2005 12:52:17 PM
ok, so nevermind.... I'm reading more on those pages and I see that there's a whole section on using wool!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 17, 2005 12:55:59 PM
i've read that wool can actually felt onto your hair and you have to cut them out. can anyone tell me different?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2005 03:14:48 PM
ragamufyn:
I also forgot to mention. Your dreads are beautiful! Lovin' the lenght that's for sure. I'm envious... I am eagerly awaiting the day for my dreadies to grow pass my shoulders.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 17, 2005 03:26:47 PM
Naked_Ninja >>
Thanks!  When I started my dreads my hair was about 2 inches long.  It took probably 3-4 years for my dreads to reach shoulder length.  After that they grow super fast!  I think the weight of them really helps to lengthen them.  I actually miss my chin length dreads.  They were so cute and lightweight, but at the time, I too, couldn't wait to have them long!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2005 05:59:20 PM
Thanks for the kind words of encouragement! haha.
I just moved into a new place and while I was sorting through all of my junk boxes I stumbled upon a picture of me, my mom, and my brother that was taken during the winter months... My dreads were so short!!! They were just above my chin... and now they are almost touching my shoulders (well I have a few dreads that touch my shoulders). They've grown at least 2 inches of lenght since december... which is definately more than I could ever ask for! I'm definately convinced that the vitamins I was taking at the time (Melaleuca) had something to do with it.
I personally think that the greatest thing about dreads is looking back on old pictures and really seeing how much they've changed... you learn to have this great amount of patience and understanding and you hardly notice the months fly then all of a sudden you look back in shock at the changes... makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Really does.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 19, 2005 09:19:36 AM
another dumb question- can you cut dreadlocks, or do they just grow out forever?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 19, 2005 09:24:27 AM
haha yeah you could cut dreadlocks. There never is a dumb question.... Most people just don't know and are usually afraid to ask. Never be afraid to ask.

You never really hear people talking about cutting dreads because they take so long to grow they most likely won't have to cut them for quite some time. But if you want to keep them at a certain lenght heck yeah take those scissors out baby.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 19, 2005 09:28:29 AM
thanks for the kind words! :) now i know!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 19, 2005 04:40:01 PM
Hey no problem... Anytime. If you ever have any questions just feel free to ask away... I will most definately not think your dumb. 
Just in case this gets you asking yourself another question... I'm going to elaborate on something a little that I should of in the first place.
Dreaded hair doesn't grow slower than non-dreaded hair. The only difference is that the new growth becomes knotted so is therefore reduced in lenght... Hope that makes sense!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: DoulaDo on August 19, 2005 05:25:20 PM
Holy 16 pages of dreadlock info!  I guess my dreads are around 8-9 years old.  I started them using the ol' wash without conditioning and wore a wool tam for the first 6 months.  I heard natural fiber hats are best for starting dreads cuz they stimulate the hair to knot up vs. acrylic hats.  Can anyone verify this?  Then about a year into the project I discovered a whole lota blonde haired kids over at Knotty Boy with dreads and tried some of their products. 

When I started I just let them form themselves and pulled apart the pieces that looked like they wanted to separate.  If I had it to do over I think I would have sectioned my hair and rolled and twisted it for a better manicured look.  It's just that I have pieces of hair from all over my head now locked up together in one dread! oops! 

Soooooo, I was thinking of bleaching and dying a couple dreads like, hot pink, maybe, but have always wanted to keep my hair as natural as possible.  Now that I see the fake dreads people are making and am thinking that that's probably the way to go for me.  Any suggestions on how to attach a couple to some dreads?  I guess it could be removable, right?

Here's a picture of my dreads a few months ago.  Sorry for the Wonder Woman handbag shot.  It's the only good picture of them I could find at the moment!

http://www.mamadelic.com/wonderwoman-hdb-beach01-500.jpg

Hey! When you get back, I could help you put a few fun fake dreads in there :) I think my kids would be in heaven if we could play with your tornado!   I've got some fishermans wool and some bubblegum pink hair dye. DOnt know if it will work, but it's worth a try!  M


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 19, 2005 05:35:24 PM

Hey! When you get back, I could help you put a few fun fake dreads in there :) I think my kids would be in heaven if we could play with your tornado!   I've got some fishermans wool and some bubblegum pink hair dye. DOnt know if it will work, but it's worth a try!  M

I would (heart) the help!  I think I'm gonna buy some hand dyed roving to do the job!  My tornado can't wait for the lovin'!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 19, 2005 09:08:03 PM
This all depends on the complexity of the situation... I think you need to elaborate a little more.

I'm white college kid... I have dreadlocks... but I'm in no way claiming to be rastafarian. Is there something wrong with that situation?.. some people think so. Some people think dreads are only for african cultured people and aren't meant to be worn by "whites" or "asians" or "natives"... but we all know this is false as dreads have been around since the begining of time in all races and all colors.

Rastafarianism is in no way limited to a certain race or color though. If he wants to be part of this... then the more to him. But then again some people have an issue with "whites" (or any race other than black) taking up rastafarian beliefs. 

Then there are the kids who smoke weed, or listen to reggae, or get dreadlocks and think they are rasta because of this....

 





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: bkqueen on August 20, 2005 08:00:49 AM
also;
is he a white-boy who wants dreads? or a white-boy who wants to be a rasta with dreads? two different things..

dreads exist without rastafarianism and vice versa..

I had dreads while living overseas(in Africa) and i loved them so much.. they were my perfect extension of myself..

I did them mostly in one night, actually my boys at our 'spot(bar)' did them.. There was a big rasta bar near my house, that was outside of the village, and since it was the only place within miles, i hung out there most of the time.. anyway.. I have thick thick, wavy, tangly, dry frizzy hair.. (obruni here though"white girl")

First I rubbed my hand around for a while, to make it a bit more knotty, this wasn't hard as it is already like this.. when I sleep at night I get little dreads in my hair.. lol
I twisted and tied, pulled and seperated.. there wer afew methods that were "on the table" but we settled on this.. one uy wanted me to use candle wax?! lol, another(and a friend of mine used this.. worked well) wanted to use Burkinabe honey(it is not sticky), a few of my african friends had just used "sponge" kind of a mesh material, it worked perfect if you were black, but not for me!

When I left Africa, it didn't feel right to take them home, because I knew I would be taking them out again.. so my boyfriend(an african who had dreads) and I cut them off(mine and his) and buried them within the rasta bar..

Anway, I have been thinking about getting them again, but as my hair is really thick, and at the moment, only to my chin, I am worried that they will stick out way too much.. so I have been thinking about waiting to grow my hair, and then ptting them in.. lets hope this works!

I want my dreads, not out of organic reasons, or fashionista(such a good word) reasons, but out of a connection. I feel no connection to my old roots, and my current home, Canada. I feel no connection to 90% of the people here, or the lifestyle. My dreads give me a connection to my life, my family, and my heart that is still in Africa.

It's funny too, with all the cultural past, and the history behind dreads in africa, you'd be amazed at how many people are very negatively prejudiced against them there..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 20, 2005 08:37:16 AM

dreads exist without rastafarianism and vice versa..

I want my dreads, not out of organic reasons, or fashionista(such a good word) reasons, but out of a connection. I feel no connection to my old roots, and my current home, Canada. I feel no connection to 90% of the people here, or the lifestyle. My dreads give me a connection to my life, my family, and my heart that is still in Africa.


Very well said.
 
I think just the act that you and your bf cut each others locks and burried them where they originated is beautiful and sad at the same time. So symbolic. And that's just it with dreads... they are so symbolic for practically everyone who wears them. Even if in the begining a person gets dreads for "fashionista" reasons over time they may grow with their dreads and see that this is no longer important. Then their dreads symbolism lies in their transfomation from "fashionista" to a more down to earth person who isn't so consumed by fashion and beauty.
I love dreadlocks.... 




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: bkqueen on August 20, 2005 08:45:15 AM
it was so hard to leave them there.. but it also means more to me, than if i had taken them out and then done whatever ith my hair.. if that makes any sense? lol

I agree with the fact atht dreads can change a person.. not necessarily the dreads themselves, always, but the effect they have, the lifestyle can make you become more aware of other things, other attitudes, other beliefs..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 20, 2005 08:54:04 AM
Exactly it isn't the hair that changes someone... it is the experiences you go through because of them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: bkqueen on August 20, 2005 01:50:32 PM
ok now i've become all nostalgic and have starting giving myself temp. dreads until i start my placement for school.. sadly, i probably wont be allowed to have them there, but you never know..

so yay to this thread ;p


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 20, 2005 02:06:53 PM
yay!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: bkqueen on August 20, 2005 02:23:45 PM
i didnt use backcombing really, before.. but holy it's much easier.. hahahahahaha


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 20, 2005 02:33:19 PM
Oh by temp dreads I thought you meant synthetic dreads. Like extensions.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: bkqueen on August 20, 2005 03:18:46 PM
ninja;
nah... real babies.. i just don't know how long I will be able to keep them, or if i will have to get rid of them for placement, but *shrugs* we shall see.. you never know..


ahk i am having fun though..



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 20, 2005 04:19:50 PM
Awesome.
I keep hearing great things about knottyboy's dread removal kit... so if worst comes to worst... But hey you might even get to keep them... wouldn't that be something!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jellybones on August 21, 2005 06:23:14 PM
Does anyone have any tips on getting the ends of your dreads to be hard and rounded?

Im having such a hard time with my dreads this time around. they just dont want to stay, i love them but i cant figure out why they keep coming out with so many lose hairs.

anyway if anyway has any advice i'd love you forever.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 22, 2005 11:17:05 AM
I just rebackcombed my tips till there was hardly nothing left and then I used a crochet hook to tuck in all the hairs. That worked pretty well.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 22, 2005 11:45:08 AM
i'm trying to make some fake wool dreads right now- i'm felting some horrid spinning i did. then i'll dye it with koolaid! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: virus_insanity on August 25, 2005 12:23:01 PM
I've always loved dreads, I want them so badly.  My hair is only shoulder length right now (if only I hadn't cut off my waist length hair), so I've decided to try synthetic dreads until my hair grows out and then dread my hair.  Thanks for all of the information, you guys have completely convinced me to get over my fear and get dreads. =D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ragamufyn on August 25, 2005 02:28:11 PM
virus_insanity:  I say go for it now!  My hair was only a couple of inches long when I started mine.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: virus_insanity on August 25, 2005 08:15:03 PM
Another big issue is the fact that my mom doesn't want me to get dreadlocks.  She thinks they're unsanitary and will get bugs and such.  I told her that that isn't the case, you can wash them, but she's still not thrilled about the idea, so I'm going to wait three years until I turn eighteen to do dreadlocks.  For now I'm going to buy some synthetic hair to make some dreads out of, and I'll wear those to get the feel for it.  I also want my hair to grow out some before dreading it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on August 28, 2005 10:10:39 AM
My mate Jason has dreadlocks now- they look leetness. I don't think I'd be brave enough to get them, though. ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 28, 2005 10:16:26 AM
My mate Jason has dreadlocks now- they look leetness. I don't think I'd be brave enough to get them, though. ;D

post a pic!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on August 28, 2005 02:04:12 PM
He's going to kill me for this, but here they are: ;D
http://www.ln3ix.com/jason/dreads1.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 28, 2005 05:54:49 PM
cool! how did he put them in?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Baddscorpio on September 07, 2005 03:54:11 PM
To all my dreaded sistas out there....I have a question.  I wear my hair in a FRO, and I was wondering is there a certain something that I could use on my hair for a dreaded look without going all the way, because I like to wear my hair different ways.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: tigerEyes on September 11, 2005 06:58:48 PM
To all my dreaded sistas out there....I have a question.  I wear my hair in a FRO, and I was wondering is there a certain something that I could use on my hair for a dreaded look without going all the way, because I like to wear my hair different ways.

You could just twist your hair without adding any product to it and comb it out when you're tired of it.  I think if you put anything in your hair, it might start it all the way.

Then again you could use light sculpting wax or just light gel and twist your hair up that way, but not too tight.


Title: Re:Dreadlocks
Post by: scissorchic on September 15, 2005 07:48:14 PM
Its a loc ting! they don't overstand

Loc me....chop me
curl me....knot me
braid me...parade me
many folks degrade me


tease me....henna me
twist me....twirl me
brush me....spray me
curly perms betray me

part me....wet me
oil me....toyyyyyy with me
pullme  pluck me
love the way you touch me

wash me....towel me
gel me....smellme
happlily & naturally
even fingers tell me

what's my name?
hair.... locked in its  natural state.


Did you write that?  It's so cool.  Would you care if I copied it (with a credit of course) and printed it on a pic at our salon?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on September 18, 2005 11:29:23 PM
cool! how did he put them in?

I think he said they backbrushed it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on December 12, 2005 05:31:41 AM
My daughter had the same problem in that when she started growing her dread locks and went to school the kids gave her a hard time because they assumed that she did not wash it.  She washed it all the time.  I do wraps near the roots to keep them seperate of she would have one big one in the back and in between the wraps she just seperates the locs, that is about all we do.  She has naturally curly hair so they curled back up on themselves and her hair looks a lot shorter but its ok.  She likes it. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on December 12, 2005 04:19:17 PM
I have dreads! I posted a LOT earlier, but haha I don't think anybody noticed.. OH well. I've had them for abouttt 16 months, and yeah that's about all I feel is necessary to share. Here's a picture:



peace out!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on December 12, 2005 06:09:30 PM
pirata- i love your dreads!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hjgffddfg on December 12, 2005 08:29:58 PM
This may be a stewpid question but..
Can you dread your hair if it is layered and chin length?
Thankkks. ;]


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 13, 2005 05:05:11 AM
u can dread your head whatever the style it is, its just the ammount of length you have.. as for chin length, sure u can, just remember your hair will be quite a bit shorter after dreading it! im waiting for mine to grow faster bleh


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on December 15, 2005 12:50:42 PM



ooh. i'm waiting for my hair to grow too. i want dread hopefully by the time i graduate [2007]...or even that summer. it's so hard to wait.
i want them now!
 :D



and in reference to your avatar, a little story:
once i was thinking [and i do this a lot]..what if the words sip and chug were switched? can you picture people yelling "SIP! SIP! SIP!" and
"hey can i have a chug of your water?"
lol....yeah i guess i'm weird like that


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 15, 2005 04:24:01 PM
That was my plan too.... waiting for my hair to grow long enough. So I spent like 4 years growing it out only to cut it short about 2 weeks before I locked up. No regrets. They were super perky at first, but I liked that. At first they were shorter than chin lenght and bow they are shoulder lenght. So they grew pretty fast. It's been about 1 year and 4 months.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on December 15, 2005 06:03:55 PM



do you remember about how many inches your hair "shrunk"?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on December 15, 2005 06:49:16 PM
MIne have been the same lenght for their entire 16 month existance, if that helps :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 16, 2005 09:51:41 AM
I remember mine shrunk about an inch at first.. but they got backcombed more after deciding they werent tight enuff, so id say you could lose about 1 to 2 inches AT LEAST (my exp.)
my hair now is 18/19 cm long (with exception of my fringe, thats way too short) so I guess I'll dread them when they hit 25 cm...



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on December 16, 2005 10:18:54 AM



wah! 2 inches isn't so bad...
i'm seeing dreads within my near future..
[read within a year and a half]
 ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 16, 2005 05:13:02 PM
I never measured anything...
 
All I can say is that after my dreads were done shrinking they started growing pretty fast. It's different for everyone I guess. For the first 6 months they didn't grow at all. I only noticed some growth around the 7th and 8th months.
I just locked up my boyfriend's hair and they are only 4 months and they've grown about 2 inches which surprises me. I guess it all depends on your hair. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 17, 2005 08:55:12 AM
I do know that after they shrunk and finally dreaded properly they grew like their life depended on it..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hjgffddfg on December 24, 2005 01:03:03 PM
Heyy so I have another questiooonn. What kind of wax do I use?
I bought the kit from Dreadhead. Like 12 days ago. And I was supposed to recieve it before Christmas.
And yea. No luck.
So they can just piss off. ;]
But now I need waxy waxyy!
Does it matter?
And don't buy from Dreadhead.
They don't respond to any form of communication.
Plus they just suck.

Pee-s - Aly_421 that was cute what you said. About my icon.

;]

Oh only a few more days until my dreadies.
Pictures will be provideddd.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on December 24, 2005 01:29:52 PM
I don't think you need wax, infact it seems many people on this board are opposed to using it, but probably just beeswax would suffice if you wish to wax.

(the wallaby's dreds will be born May 21, 2006. yay!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 24, 2005 04:13:16 PM
wax is just to keep loose hair in place..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hjgffddfg on December 24, 2005 04:38:12 PM
So it doesn't matter what brand or if it is all natural?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 25, 2005 01:08:13 AM
try not to use a petroleum one
it makes the hair too ehm... i think it made your hair untangle more so i guess just dont?
I did use a wax, so id recommend it.. and go for a natural product
chemicals in your hair... wouldnt want that


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on December 25, 2005 01:56:43 PM
I'd be careful with the wax- use it VERY sparingly and try not to use it on the actual dreads, only on the roots and tips. I used wax on all of my dreads for about the first month, and even after a year and a half I still find wax that has collected gross amounts of lint inside the dread. So be careful!! Wax is good on tips, though.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Katie Mutated on December 27, 2005 10:59:00 AM
My boyo is at the awkward stage of growing out a "Crust Mullet" or as some like to call them, Rat Tails.
He's going on about cutting it all off now cause he has no self discipline  ::) but im flying over to him this Saturday for 3months with metal comb and beeswax in hand.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 30, 2005 10:16:54 AM
Wax isn't all bad. I believe wax is good for people who have hair that doesn't knot easily as well as for people who need to look a little more sophisticated. I mean no one really needs to lose their job over the fact that their dreads are a little too fuzzy. Mos people already think that dreads are nasty to begin with so I think wax is a good way to smooth the transition and make people realize that they don't have to look like a rat's nest - don't get me wrong, I like messy dreads too, but "reality check" we live in a judgemental world and some people can't afford to "not care what people think". 
I use wax, my bf uses wax, and I know lots of people who use wax that have had a positive experience with it.
I think the reason why people don't hear the good side of wax is because as soon as someone mentions wax it's like a taboo. "WAX USER AHHH!" God people need to grow up. Of course a noob to dreads won't admit he or she uses wax because one of the first things they learn about the dreadlock community is that almost everyone hates wax. Well I don't.
 
The key is to use a water soluble wax. Knotty Boy is the way to go. I tried Dreadheadhq's and that stuff is gunk and takes forever to wash out. The thing is that dreadheadhq uses microcrystaline wax and white oil (poo for dreads). With Knottyboy, if you apply it correctly, it should wash out with your next shampoo. Always does for my and my bf. So I must be doing something right. Also we don't get waxy clothes, faces, pillows... because we don't glob it on. Your dreads will absorb the wax naturally (no heat required) if you don't overdo it and your hair won't feel gooey or icky.

Another reason why so many people have bad experiences with wax is that they glob the stuff on. No need for that. A little goes a long way. Don't even read the label on the stuff because their advise is to glob it on (2 to 3 m&m sized balls per dread is way too much unless you have really long dreads). My dreads are shoulder lenght now and I use about 1 m&m sized ball per dread or less. When they were shorter I used even less.

Wax worked great for me because it kept me looking presentable. It kept all the frizzies down which is what I wanted. But don't get me wrong, wax isn't a necessity. You don't need wax to have nice dreads. Wax really isn't needed to develop nice looking dreads either. Time is all that is needed, but wax can make the time seem to go by faster because it keeps your dreads looking smooth. Another important thing to know is that you definately shouldn't wax everyday. First of all, who has the time? Waxing everyday will give you residue that's for sure. So be wise on how much wax you use and how often you use it. My dreads are about 1 year and a half old and my bf's are about 5 months old and we both are still using the jar that I bought at the begining of my dreadlock journey. We are currently at the half mark which goes to show how much of it we use.

For the longest little while I stopped using wax because let's face it, after a while you really don't need it anymore because your dreads mature and the frizzies disappear. But nowadays I use it about once every 2 months as a sort of conditionner for my dreads. My hair gets really dry and when I wax my dreads they absorb the stuff and it gets rid of the dry brittleness. And NO I don't have globs of crusty wax stuck inside my dreads. Quite some time ago I had a little accident with scissors and I decided to do a little autopsy to see if the myth of the crusty wax was true. Well it wasn't. I found absolutely nothing in there except for a little ball of towel lint. Could it be because I didn't glob the stuff on everyday and used it wisely?

Anyway folks... I'm not here to tell people to go out and buy wax. I just want everyone to know that me and my partner have had a good experience with using wax and alot of others have as well. The choice is yours. People should never tell others what or what not to do. I'm just here to give you another option, I'm not trying to make your decisions.  I'm sure I'll get rained on for this, but I don't care. I'm not going to lie about it. I'm pro-wax.


Also there are a few other ways to keep your dreads looking tidy.
Someone a while back in this thread mentioned a crochet hook. God what awesome advise. Really defuzzes everything in those more than fuzzy early beginnings. I still use it once in a while to snag in a lose hair or some mysterious fuzz that appears out of nowhere. Just make sure it is a very small crochet hook and that it is metal. I bought the smallest size I could find.

I've also heard some good things about the knotty boy gel stuff. I couldn't tell you personally though because I've never used it.

Also here is a little trick I picked up myself after hearing about the hairpolice method of dread maintenance. Sewing thread in your hair color and a needle is all you need. I use this to wrap my roots every once in a while (I'm going for every 6 months now). I grab all the loose frizz around the dread and twist it and then wrap the root with the sewing thread. It really helped make my roots stronger and thicker because now all the loose hair is in the dread where it is supposed to be. I usually leave it in till the next time I do this, but the hairpolice website says that their customers either leave it in or take it out in 3 months. You can also use embroidery floss it you need something a little easier to see if you want to take it out later.
I also used the thread to round off some stubborn tips. I just rebackcombed the ones that didn't want to round off, then I used my crochet hook to suck all the fuzz in, and then I just sewed the tips. All of my tips are blunt now and they are rock hard. Worked like a charm.

I mean this wasn't necessary, but I want to look professional and be able to keep my locks. I need to look professional and these things worked great for me.

 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on December 30, 2005 07:27:07 PM
aaah please don't get me wrong here, I was just saying to be careful with the wax because it can ball up inside the dread... I am not saying it is always bad or it means that you are cheating or whatever, i hope nobody took it that way! I just found that for my hair type it didn't seem to do much on the actual dread and it was only helpful on tips and roots, so mess around a little bit until you know what works for you.

oh, and for Naked_Ninja- I'm really surprised that the KNotty  Boy wax washed out for you- it stayed for AGES in my hair, and it was really really sticky.  Maybe that's another thing that differs depending on your hair type.

SOOOO my final thoughts are just to play around with different methods and waxes until you find somthing that works for YOU- and don't worry about what other people say about it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on December 30, 2005 08:42:31 PM
SOOOO my final thoughts are just to play around with different methods and waxes until you find somthing that works for YOU- and don't worry about what other people say about it.

Exactly.

I think hair type has a lot to do with a lot.
For instance, I met this guy the other day while in line at some computer store in mississauga. His locks were absolutely amazing and my bf couldn't help but tell him so. He told us that he's been dreaded for ten years and then told us that he used straight beeswax for a long time. That worked for him. Everyone has their own methods.

As for the knottyboy wax, it works great for me and my bf. I also had a dreaded friend who recently cut his locks (business issues) and he used knottyboy as well with no problems. Like I mentioned earlier, it all depends on the person.

Oh and I wasn't aiming my comments towards you piratasucia... maybe I should have clarified that a little. I just meant that in general... I mean if you so much as mention the word wax on knottyboy.tk you practically get shot. Everyone jumps in "WAX IS BAD" "DONT USE WAX" "WAX IS FOR CANDLES" yadda yadda. Know what I'm saying?

 ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: smokingmonkey on January 02, 2006 02:02:59 PM
It's been a while so I thought I'd post some updated pics since someone requested pictures in a different forum, blah blah blah. :)

They're about 9 months old. I got them via a free dreadperm at hairpolice (hair model for a class), and about half of them are synthetics because my hair is really really thin. The reddish spindly ones are my hair, the thicker blonde and dark ones are fake. They're getting a little more length, but mostly because I take a crochet hook and pull them out when they start growing into themselves or shortening. It makes them a little fuzzy but after some palm rolling with tightening gel, all is well with the world again. I had a hairpolice former employee do maintenance on them a couple months ago.

http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies02.jpg
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies04.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LosnInVelvetSky on January 03, 2006 05:42:45 PM
Hey, lots of good info in this thread. Everybody's dreads look great.
I have been thinking about dreading my hair and I was wondering about swimming. I have been on swim team at my school for the past two years and I don't think I want to give it up for a hair style(even if swim only last a couple of months a year). I wear swim caps all the time for practice so that keeps my hair kind of dry. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 04, 2006 12:44:01 PM
You may need a much larger swim cap. Haha. No seriously.

I swim a lot in the summer. Almost everyday for at least 2 or 3 months. The only thing I can comment on is that my dreads got pretty frizzy and some got really loose, but it wasn't a big deal. I've heard some people say that swimming makes their locks tighter, but I guess it all depends on your hairtype. Either way, dreadlocks aren't going to fall off if water gets to them. I've also swam in chlorinated water and all was well.
The only thing you should consider is that dreads take longer to dry, and you most definately don't want to keep them constantly wet or mold can form. So if you do get dreads, make sure you sqweeze that water out good, wrap an absorbent towel around them, and then dry them with a hair dryer before you decide to tie them up, sleep on them, or wear anything in or on your head. Also you may want to wash them more often because you don't want to smell like a swimming pool all the time right?  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LosnInVelvetSky on January 04, 2006 04:31:25 PM
OK...thats what I thought but I wasn't sure.

 ;D...if you are on a swim team you can't avoid smelling like a pool. You can't get rid of the chlorine smell...it soaks into your skin. The team tends to complain because no matter how much soap you use or how hard to scrub you are still going to smell like a pool. Although washing them more often would probably be good either way otherwise it dries out a lot.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 04, 2006 05:54:47 PM
Haha I guess your right. Chlorine doesn't smell bad anyway... it actually smells really clean. I used to have a pool before we decided to move. Although you really can't compare a home pool to a public pool. I'm pretty sure the chlorine levels are much higher in a public pool.

I remember when I first got my dreads... each shampoo seemed to make them look tighter. I used to get so excited. Hehe.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: scissorchic on January 04, 2006 06:05:52 PM
There is a special shampoo you can buy to get rid of the chlorine build up.  I don't know anything about dreads but if your interested I can find out the name of the shampoo for you.  I know there are several different brands that carry it and most salons carry them in the summer.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LosnInVelvetSky on January 04, 2006 10:07:53 PM
I never really minded smelling like chlorine either. Hmm...Well, it looks like there is a new hairstyle in my future. I have heard that they get tighter when you wash them.

I know of few shampoos that get rid of the chlorine build up. Regular shampoo worked just fine for me but thanks anyways.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on January 05, 2006 12:27:00 AM
This thread is so great! Loads of good stuff in here. My boyfriend have been working on my hair for days and we finally got the last dreads done yesterday. I've got 102 thin and beautiful dreads now :)  But it's starting to itch, and quite bad. I've got a history with itching scalp and dandruff so I'd rather get rid of this itch as soon as possible.  I've been thinking of trying that rosemary and water thingy but should I wait a week before I get my dreads wet at all or can I do it now?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 05, 2006 06:26:36 AM
I would do something about it as soon as you can..
i actually had the itchies so bad i ended up with scabs on my head.. sooo super sexy, dontcha think?

and as for the water pool thing, swimming in sea water supposedly makes dreads tighter, as for pool water.. for some reason i think the chlorine might strip a bit of the waxx off, drying them a bit.. good and bad at the same time? being honest swimming in the sea and then letting your dreads dry was great only the saltyness afterwards...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 05, 2006 09:53:48 AM
smokingmonkey- i love your dreds! can you point me in the direction of the hairpolice site?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: LivinEasy on January 05, 2006 09:59:06 AM
www.hairpolice.com


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hjgffddfg on January 06, 2006 05:19:30 PM
Yea so today my friends and I dreaded my hair.
Yeyyey.
OR SO WE THOUGHT.
It took 6 hours.
6 freaking hours.
And my hair is short.
And then.. my mom made me wash it out.
She said I had to get it out or her and my dad were going to shave my head.
Yea.
It sucked so bad.
I was pretty mad.
Oh well.
I move out next year.
So I guess I will do it then.
;[


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on January 06, 2006 06:03:47 PM
It's been a while so I thought I'd post some updated pics since someone requested pictures in a different forum, blah blah blah. :)

They're about 9 months old. I got them via a free dreadperm at hairpolice (hair model for a class), and about half of them are synthetics because my hair is really really thin. The reddish spindly ones are my hair, the thicker blonde and dark ones are fake. They're getting a little more length, but mostly because I take a crochet hook and pull them out when they start growing into themselves or shortening. It makes them a little fuzzy but after some palm rolling with tightening gel, all is well with the world again. I had a hairpolice former employee do maintenance on them a couple months ago.

http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies02.jpg
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies04.jpg


How do you get synthetic dreads to stay in? By the way, it looks like you have a very pretty face!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 07, 2006 06:42:24 AM
I would do something about it as soon as you can..
i actually had the itchies so bad i ended up with scabs on my head.. sooo super sexy, dontcha think?

and as for the water pool thing, swimming in sea water supposedly makes dreads tighter, as for pool water.. for some reason i think the chlorine might strip a bit of the waxx off, drying them a bit.. good and bad at the same time? being honest swimming in the sea and then letting your dreads dry was great only the saltyness afterwards...

Hehe yeah it's great if you live anywhere remotely close to an ocean. I wish I did. Damn all you people who live close to oceans. Damn all of you. Hehe.  ;D Saltwater is great for dreads. I used to mix sea salt, water, and lemon juice in a spray bottle and sprits away every now and then. Really helped tighten things up fast.

But I have to agree with Fckadog on this one. Do something now. My bf has the same problem. He's always had mad dandruff and when he got dreads it got worse. I used the rosemary and water thing on him lots and it helped but he still had some dandruff. So then he used selson blue for a while and that seemed to get rid of the dandruff. Now he uses Melaleuca's Natural's shampoo (with tea tree oil) and sometimes he uses this Peppermint Rosemary shampoo. They seem to  keep things under control. Even when I started my dreads I had a little itch and mild dandruff problem... it takes time for you scalp to adjust to this new style since you don't wash as often (well you could but it isn't necessary) and you don't brush anymore. So your scalp isn't getting the attention it used to. Scalp massages are another good idea. Your scalp needs attention.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on January 07, 2006 08:51:59 AM
I thought we had rosemary here, but it turns out we haven't. *sigh* But I've managed so far so I guess I can wait another couple of days. I've been giving myself some scalp massage lately and I think that've helped a bit at least. Thought I should share a pic of my babies too :) They are just a few days old and when I have time I'll crochet in a bit of all that frizz. My tiny crochet hook is my new best friend ;)



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on January 07, 2006 09:50:04 PM
Nice dreads for still being babies!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 08, 2006 05:53:20 AM
Aw cute babies. Hehe But seriously... Lucky... You've already got lenght. Their looking nice for fresh ones.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 09, 2006 10:07:19 AM
My bf has the same problem. He's always had mad dandruff and when he got dreads it got worse. I used the rosemary and water thing on him lots and it helped but he still had some dandruff. So then he used selson blue for a while and that seemed to get rid of the dandruff. Now he uses Melaleuca's Natural's shampoo (with tea tree oil) and sometimes he uses this Peppermint Rosemary shampoo. They seem to  keep things under control.

did he use selsun blue while he had dreads?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 09, 2006 10:10:41 AM
vildharvve- how long was your hair before you dreaded it? b/c your dreads are really long! :) so cool, btw.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 09, 2006 02:54:56 PM
Yep he sure did. I'll have to admit that it unknotts them a little and makes them a little messier, but who really cares... as long as you get rid of the dandruff.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on January 10, 2006 06:37:18 AM
Thanks everyone! :)

Mayerlove: My hair was almost down to my waist, so I've lost a dm or two in length actually.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 10, 2006 03:49:11 PM
thanks, guys! ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Aly_421 on January 10, 2006 06:56:51 PM



 :)
i saw this boy [Nick] today at the basketball game...he graduated. he's amazing.
he's got dreads..
the one thing i don't like though is that they're 'neglected' like he didn't backcomb them or anything, he just let it happen and so it kind of looks like a big nest of hair, i just wanted to roll them up nice and tight and pretty. but they suit him.

anyways, i had to let that out of my system.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on January 10, 2006 08:04:38 PM
my bff has dreads. she has had them for a few months. her name on here is milkweed* hers are all haggard though. but they look awesome ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on January 11, 2006 03:50:38 AM
Some people prefer to just let their hair do what it is going to do.  Get the dreads naturally.  True knotty dreads as you might say.  My daughters are like that.  When we started all we did was wrap the root occasionally and let it go and do its thing.  She had long curly hair almost to her rear.  Know she has knotty dreads to her shoulders cause they all curled up on themselves. 

Alice Walker (the author of Color Purple) wrote a short story called "Oppressed Hair Puts a Ceiling on the Brain" you might check it out.  It is a good writing.  Anyway, if the people go natural and they can so be it.  If you like or need a more controlled look, so be that as well. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on January 11, 2006 08:13:31 AM
My hair gets really tangly and I had long think curly hair and it was dreading its self. I had one hufe ponytail dred and it looked mad so I got my hair cut.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on January 11, 2006 11:17:06 AM
When I had dreads a had a couple of big ones in the back and then some little ones.  That is why I wrapped my daughters, to keep it from being one.  But I have seen people with one big one and they look ok to me also. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on January 11, 2006 01:20:10 PM
i have dreads! look for yourself if you dont nelive me= https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=73111.msg686764#msg686764



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on January 11, 2006 02:05:52 PM
The post right about mine is my friend with dreads :P hers are awesome!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on January 11, 2006 02:59:23 PM
why thank you mcrguitarmcr  8)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on January 11, 2006 03:01:15 PM
your welcome :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: sassysword on January 12, 2006 10:16:46 AM
Here are my knotty dreads, they are pretty new



I used to have long naturally curly hair almost to my rear.  This is how much they shrunk.  I have just recently started putting a little aloe gel on the roots so that it doesnt look sooo frizzy. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on January 12, 2006 05:39:33 PM
anyone who has or wants dreads go to dreadheadhq.com it rocks
also knottyboy.com has all natural stuff


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 13, 2006 06:56:48 AM
Alright since everyone is picture sharing here is a recent one of me and my bf. I love this picture.



I love how this picture shows how different dreads can be. His are messy and left alone while mine are less messy since I do maintenance. But in all honesty I love his dreads as much as I love mine. Messy, congoes, clumpy, lumpy, long, short, fat, skinny, maintained, natural, backcombed... whatever... dreads are dreads.


sassysword:

They look marvelous! Just gorgeous.




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 13, 2006 09:56:58 AM
you guys are adorable. and your dreads just rock.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on January 13, 2006 09:58:44 AM
That is a really good picture.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on January 13, 2006 06:12:41 PM
I just wanted to say thank u naked_ninja...i've been researching my butt off about dreads and whether I want them, how to do it, what to use, etc. and your posts/links on here have been VERY helpful! I put them in 5 days ago, and I'm lovin it...the only problems I'm having are around my hairline. In the back, along my neck, my little wispy hairs won't stay in. Is this normal? And what can I do about it? Should I just use the crochet hook method (can someone post a "crochet hooking your dreads for dummies" step-by-step on here--that would be very helpful for newbies like myself  ;)) or should I wait until they're a little more mature? Also, I'm getting very frustrated with my hairline in the front. On the sides of my face (right in front of my ears), the roots are really loose....I've tried redoing them but they just loosen up again. Any ideas? And one last thing...the dreads in my bangs are pretty skinny; will this cause any problems down the road? My bangs are approximately 4 inches long and were razored before I dreaded them so there's lots of different lengths in there.
Thanks so much to everyone who's posted so far...you've all been really helpful. And the pics have been nice, especially the ones that show the lock progress. Everybody's dreads look great!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 15, 2006 05:38:22 AM
the little hairs are always a problem... mine always found a way out of my dreads :( its VERY normal I'd say everyone with dreads will have this problem atleast in the beginning.
thing is, those little hairs dont seem to grow much at all, so what you could do is tie them in (sorta thread them thru the dread and tie the dread at the beginning with a band of some sorts) or wax them into some place u like or like my brother did to me shave them.. id advise the shaving to men only, it felt awfull when it grew back :(

as for the roots on the side of your head, try holding the dread straight against your head and then turning it to make it knot, the same applies for every loose rooted dreaddy... hmm ive seen a tute kinda thing for this method.. lets see.. foud it here:
http://www.dreadheadhq.com/make_dreadlocks_maintain_rubbing.php
 
Hope that might help always worked a charm for me!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 15, 2006 06:26:29 AM
I definately wouldn't put much thought into anything right now. Your dreadies are only 5 days old afterall.  :D

The hairs around your hairline are kind of impossible to knot into the dread. It's like baby hair... I can't get rid of mine either... and I kind of like it that way. If it really does bother you though, just use some thread or embroidery floss and wrap it into the nearest root. Crocheting them in won't do much since they are so fine they'll slip out of the dread in no time. But even tying them is temporary. It lasts for a few days and then the majority of shorter ones manage to slip out. It's nothing to worry about though.

You also asked about your really thin dreads where your bangs used to be. Well I wouldn't worry about that either since after your dreads go through the shrinking stage they eventually fatten up (all of the hair you usually lose on a daily basis has nowhere to go, so it gets trapped in your dreads making them look fatter). If you ever find them to be way too thin just bunch them in groups of two and either use beads or string to tie them together... eventually they'll grow into each other to form one single dread. That's called a congo. Dreads like to do that on their own so it's always good to seperate them (riping them is better than scissors since it causes less stray hairs), well unless you want congo's to form. Some people love congos. It's all up to you. 

As for the roots. Roots are tricky because they really don't need to be tight. Some dreaded folks have roots that are about 2 inches of normal hair and that is also perfectly normal. But if you really want them to be tighter just place the root between your index and middle finger and rub them a little now and then. Just so you know, some people say this isn't a good way to do this... so I wouldn't overdo it. I've also heard that it works best in the shower while your shampooing since your hair is wet it causes no dangers.
Another way is to re-backcomb your roots. I would suggest to go out to a dollar store and buy a pet flea comb since they are way thinner and grab more hairs.
Yet another way (and my favorite) is just to tie your roots with thread or embroidery floss. This is really simple. All you do is wrap that thread around your root and then make a knot. Simple. I like to grab all the loose hair that should belong to that dread and tie it in with the string. What this does is it gives your roots more strenght since all of the loose hair is tied in and after about 3 months all of the hair after the wrap dreads itself nice and tight. After this you can either remove the string with one of those dethreader things you use to remove the thread on fabric or you can just leave it in for a while longer... it's all up to you.
Then again you can just leave them alone since they'll ultimately dread themselves eventually. All you need is patience.

As for using a crochet hook to pull in loose hair and loops, that's pretty easy. Just make sure you have a metal crochet hook in a very small size. I can't remember what size mine is but it's something in the 0.25 range (I'm not a crocheter so I might be wrong). So here is a step by step.

1. Stick the crochet hook right through your dread.

2. Wrap the loose hair, loop, fuzz, tip... around the crochet hook.

3. Pull the crochet hook in and out of the dread in different areas till the fuzz you were working on disapears inside the dread.

4. Repeat if necessary.

Hopefully that makes things a little clearer.
Anyway I really wouldn't worry much about crocheting your dreadies right now since they are so new and fluffy. Also they'll be going through many changes for a while. I didn't start doing this till about 6 or 7 months later. But by all means, if you want to do it, go for it!


Also thanks everyone for the nice comments on the photograph. I took it myself in the photo studio at my college. I was in photography last semester so I got full access to the facilities. Loads of fun.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on January 15, 2006 11:44:08 PM
That picture is really beautiful! And thanks for yet another post full of great info  :)  Was actually starting to worry a bit about all my small loose hairs too, but I guess there's nothing to do about them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on January 16, 2006 12:34:18 AM
Man, I miss my dreads horribly.  :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 16, 2006 02:11:04 AM
same here, missing them with some sort of powerfull force of missing blah
but if my exams go well enuff i promised myself i can get them next week (dread perm at hair police... ive seen some of their work and it was f'ing fabulous)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 16, 2006 03:22:07 PM
That picture is really beautiful! And thanks for yet another post full of great info  :)  Was actually starting to worry a bit about all my small loose hairs too, but I guess there's nothing to do about them.

Thanks and no problem. My mission is to dreaducate the world... Funny... at the begining of this thread I was the one asking questions. You learn so much just by having dreads. I figure that the experiences I have along the way may be helpful to others if I share them. Who knows.  ??? hehe  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 17, 2006 07:21:45 AM
i hang on to every word said here.... i want dreads so bad it hurts inside! (lol like a cheesy love song)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on January 17, 2006 02:28:36 PM
Well I'm also thinking of getting dreadlock just that I'm not 100% sure if I want it.
I'm in love with my hair and I couldn't bear having 1cm short hair if I wan to / have to get rid of them. Also my skull has an awful shape and I have chubby cheeks so it's not an option. So is their any possiblities to have at least 5 cm's back. I know it's not good to first think of their end but I'll be a psichologist in 2 years so it's not only my decision.
Also I was wondering if is it possible to swim with dreads? I mean I can swim only when my head is in the water. But it gets damp, so after a while a Would not be able to get my had out of the water. Am I right? Anyway it's not really a problem because I don't like to swim....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on January 17, 2006 04:21:41 PM
I know somebody that had dreads for a year and a half, then combed them out! it was amazing, and it can be done on some people. so I'm sure you can save at least some of your hair.

Also, you can for sure go swimming!! You can get them wet, shower, wash, do whatever you want and they'll be just fine. THey take a while to dry, but that is ok, you just have to be patient!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 17, 2006 04:37:31 PM
I know somebody that had dreads for a year and a half, then combed them out! it was amazing, and it can be done on some people. so I'm sure you can save at least some of your hair.

Also, you can for sure go swimming!! You can get them wet, shower, wash, do whatever you want and they'll be just fine. THey take a while to dry, but that is ok, you just have to be patient!

I've heard of that as well. I've seen tons of pictures of people who save lots of their hair after deciding to get rid of dreads. I know that this one girl on knottylock's lost her dreads (due to a freaky mom who pinned her down and cut them) and after the ordeal she had chin leght hair.
KnottyBoy (www.knottyboy.com) sells a dreadlock removal kit that supposedly saves all of your hair... I've never used it so I wouldn't know. I guess all you need is an intense conditionner and a good metal tooth comb. I also heard something about having to cut the hardest part on each dread and then combing the rest out while the conditionner is still in your hair.... but who knows. You definately don't need to shave your head to get rid of dreads though.


Like piratasucia said... you definately can swim with dreads. I swim everyday in the summer.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on January 19, 2006 04:40:12 PM
I realize that this thread has been going on for ages...but I'm just finding it, and there also appears to be a few new people like myself. My dreads are coming along quite well -yay!!- it's only been 12 days, but they've already made some progress and are starting to look better. So happy about that! I just washed them for the first time the other night, and they felt and looked (not to mention smelled!) so good after I dried, waxed, and rolled them  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 20, 2006 03:08:56 AM
i remember the first time i washed them...
i made a huge boo boo by putting waaaaaaaaayyyyy too much wax in them after they dried
they didnt look like dreads at all they looked more like... what happens when u stick too much wax in your hair and it dries and turns hard due to cold weather outside and ieuw im rambeling
i put too much in because my hair was a bit undreaded after the shower the wax went right thru them


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: girlypirate on January 20, 2006 09:26:37 AM
 OPPRESSED HAIR PUTS A CEILING ON THE BRAIN

(This was a talk I gave on Founders' Day, April 11, 1987, at Spelman College in Atlanta.)

As some of you no doubt know, I myself was a student here once, many moons ago. I used to sit in these very seats (sometimes still in pajamas, underneath my coat) and gaze up at the light streaming through these very windows. I listened to dozens of encouraging speakers and sang, and listened to, wonderful music. I believe I sensed I would one day return, to be on this side of the podium. I think that, all those years ago, when I was a student here and still in my teens, I was thinking about what I would say to you now.

It may surprise you that I do not intend (until the question-and-answer period perhaps) to speak of war and peace, the economy, racism or sexism, or the triumphs and tribulations of black people or of women. Or even about movies. Though the discerning ear may hear my concern for some of these things in what I am about to say, I am going to talk about an issue even closer to home. I am going to talk to you about hair. Don't give a thought to the state of yours at the moment. Don't be at all alarmed. This is not an appraisal. I simply want to share with you some of my own experiences with our friend hair, and at the most hope to entertain and amuse you.

For a long time, from babyhood through young adulthood mainly, we grow, physically and spiritually (including the intellectual with the spiritual), without being deeply aware of it. In fact, some periods of our growth are so confusing that we don't even recognize that growth is what is happening. We may feel hostile or angry or weepy and hysterical, or we may feel depressed. It would never occur to us, unless we stumbled on a book or person who explained it to us, that we were in fact in the process of change, of actually becoming larger, spiritually, than we were before. Whenever we grow, we tend to feel it, as a young seed must feel the weight and inertia of the earth as it seeks to break out of its shell on its way to becoming a plant. Often the feeling is anything but pleasant. But what is most unpleasant is the not knowing what is happening. I remember the waves of anxiety that used to engulf me at different periods in my life, always manifesting itself in physical disorders (sleeplessness, for instance) and how frightened I was because I did not understand how this was possible.

With age and experience, you will be happy to know, growth becomes a conscious, recognized process. Still somewhat frightening, but at least understood for what it is. Those long periods when something inside ourselves seems to be waiting, holding its breath, unsure about what the next step should be, eventually become the periods we wait for, for it is in those periods that we realize we are being prepared for the next phase of our life and that, in all probability, a new level of the personality is about to be revealed.

A few years ago I experienced one such long period of restlessness disguised as stillness. That is to say, I pretty much withdrew from the larger world in favor of the peace of my personal, smaller one. I unplugged myself from television and newspapers (a great relief!), from the more disturbing members of my extended family, and from most of my friends. I seemed to have reached a ceiling in my brain. And under this ceiling my mind was very restless, although all else about me was calm.

As one does in these periods of introspection, I counted the beads of my progress in this world. In my relationship to my family and the ancestors, I felt I had behaved respectfully (not all of them would agree, no doubt); in my work I felt I had done, to the best of my ability, all that was required of me; in my relationship to the persons with whom I daily shared my life I had acted with all the love I could possibly locate within myself. I was also at least beginning to acknowledge my huge responsibility to the Earth and my adoration of the Universe. What else, then, was required? Why was it that, when I mediated and sought the escape hatch at the top of my brain, which, at an earlier stage of growth, I had been fortunate enough to find, I now encountered a ceiling, as it the route to merge with the infinite I had become used to was plastered over?

One day, after I had asked this question earnestly for half a year, it occurred to me that in my physical self there remained one last barrier to my spiritual liberation, at least in the present phase: my hair. Not my friend hair itself, for I quickly understood that it was innocent. It was the way I related to it that was the problem. I was always thinking about it. So much so that if my spirit had been a balloon eager to soar away and merge with the infinite, my hair would be the rock that anchored it to Earth. I realized that there was no hope of continuing my spiritual development, no hope of future growth of my soul, no hope of really being able to stare at the Universe and forget myself entirely in the staring (one of the purest joys!) if I still remained chained to thoughts about my hair. I suddenly understood why nuns and monks shaved their heads!

I looked at myself in the mirror and I laughed with happiness! I had broken through the seed skin, and was on my way upward through the earth. Now I began to experiment: For several months I wore long braids (a fashion among black women at the time) made from the hair of Korean women. I loved this. It fulfilled my fantasy of having very long hair and it gave my short, mildly processed (oppressed) hair a chance to grow out. The young woman who braided my hair was someone I grew to love--a struggling young mother, she and her daughter would arrive at my house at seven in the evening and we would talk, listen to music, and eat pizza or burritos while she worked, until one or two o'clock in the morning. I loved the craft involved in the designs she created for my head. (Basket making! a friend once cried on feeling the intricate weaving atop my head.) I loved sitting between her knees the way I used to sit between my mother's and sister's knees while they braided my hair when I was a child. I loved the fact that my own hair grew out and grew healthy under the "extensions," as the lengths of hair were called. I loved paying a young sister for work that was truly original and very much a part of the black hair-styling tradition. I loved the fact that I did not have to deal with my hair except once every two or three months (for the first time in my life I could wash it every day if I wanted to and not have to do anything further). Still, eventually the braids would have to be taken down (a four- to-seven-hour job) and redone (another seven to eight hours), nor did I ever quite forget the Korean women, who, according to my young hairdresser, grew their hair expressly to be sold. Naturally this information caused me to wonder (and, yes, worry) about all other areas of their lives.

When my hair was four inches long, I dispensed with the hair of my Korean sisters and braided my own. It was only then that I became reacquainted with its natural character. I found it to be springy, soft, almost sensually responsive to moisture. As the little braids spun off in all directions but the ones I tried to encourage them to go, I discovered my hair's willfulness, so like my own! I saw that my friend hair, given its own life, had a sense of humor. I discovered I liked it.

Again I stood in front of the mirror and looked at myself and laughed. My hair was one of those odd, amazing, unbelievable, stop-you-in-your-tracks creations--not unlike a zebra's stripes, an armadillo's ears, or the feet of the electric-blue-footed boobie--that the Universe makes for no reason other than to express its own limitless imagination. I realized I had never been given the opportunity to appreciate hair for its true self. That it did, in fact, have one. I remembered years of enduring hairdressers--from my mother onward--doing missionary work on my hair. They dominated, suppressed, controlled. Now, more or less free, it stood this way and that. I would call up my friends around the country to report on its antics. It never thought of lying down. Flatness, the missionary position, did not interest it. Being short, cropped off near the root, another missionary "solution," did not interest it either. It sought more and more space, more light, more of itself. It loved to be washed; but that was it.

Eventually I knew precisely what hair wanted: it wanted to grow, to be itself, to attract lint, if that was its destiny, but to be left alone by anyone, including me, who did not love it as it was. What do you think happened? (Other than that I was now able, as an added bonus, to comprehend Bob Marley as the mystic his music always indicated he was.) The ceiling at the top of my brain lifted; once again my mind (and spirit) could get outside myself. I would not be stuck in restless stillness, but would continue to grow. The plant was above the ground!

This was the gift of my growth during my fortieth year. This and the realization that as long as there is joy in creation there will always be new creations to discover, or to rediscover, and that a prime place to look is within and about the self. That even death, being part of life, must offer at least one moment of delight.

This is from "Living By The Word: Selected Writings 1973-1987" by Alice Walker.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on January 20, 2006 11:22:32 AM
That is one of my favorite essays of all time. 

When I was in udergrad I did a written and oral presentation on "Is our Hair Still Political" for a political symbols class.  It was mostly on dreadlocks as political symbol and the rastafarian movement and some of the other symbolism that they use.  Alice Walker was an inspiration at the time as well.
It was a report that was a lot of fun and got me a good grade. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mikalaka on January 23, 2006 12:25:07 AM
i love dreads. all of yours look great. i want them so bad but, right now my hair is short and i want to wait and think before i get them. my hair is between chin and shoulder length and knots VERY easily. just for an example: once i was getting my haircut and my hair was very knotty even though i had just combed it that morning. well, the lady washed it then started combing it and commented the knottyness. i explained that it knots very easily, but i was probably only about 11 then and she didnt beleive me i guess becuase she pinned up half to cut some of it then took the rest of the hair down and discovered, it was already knotted again. so i think my hair might be good for this. i dont really care what people think, ive had pink green and purple hair before. but i dont want them to think im trying to be something, i think its stupid that people associate dreads with african american. anyone can have dreads, right? of course. so enough rambling: i want dreadds. but i can wait, im only 14. but i will get them one day, maybe in a month or maybe 5 years. but one day i will. and i cant wait.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 30, 2006 05:49:49 AM
Hey all
last friday i finally got my dreads redone, took me a year of re-growing...
anyhow, i had it done at the hairpolice in Amsterdam, its a dread perm
if u havent read previous posts this is what a dread perm is:
backcombing, twisting and then perming so the hair stays in place (thats why its curly and twisted)
so here is what it looked like in the morning:



and after 5 hours of 2 people pulling on my hair and having and awfull smell of perm fluidy junk:




(last 2 pictures was of random drunkness so sorry for the weird faces or whatnot and for the poor view of hair)

anyhow, i think i like this method better than backcombing because the "dread" is kinda set, so it doesnt come undone as easy...
hmm... going to not wash my hair for 6 weeks now... not the best thing ever


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 30, 2006 04:05:44 PM
this question isn't answered on the hair police site, so i thought i'd ask here. how much length can you keep if you get a dreadperm?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on January 30, 2006 10:40:28 PM
a bit more than when u dread it by only backcombing
i think i lost at the most half an inch, then again, my hair is now a bit curly for the next few weeks so ive lost something else aswell, face
i dont enjoy the curls at all, but ive seen the hairpolice results up close and theyre sooooo damn good, ill just have to take it


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on January 31, 2006 04:32:03 PM
thanks! post pics when they straighten out! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on January 31, 2006 07:48:25 PM
Their cute Fckadog! I kind of like the curly thing going on with them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: smokingmonkey on February 08, 2006 12:50:49 PM
How do you get synthetic dreads to stay in? By the way, it looks like you have a very pretty face!

Holy crud - month late responding to this - sorry!

The synthetics are pinch braided and then dreaded - meaning they take a chunk of fake hair, fold it in half, wrap it around on of the real dreads, braid it a little bit and then tie with string. When it's attached, it's then dreaded which is really easy since synth hair is plastic and they backcomb, twist, and then heat it with a steamer to kind of form the plastic into a dread. You can kind of see it on the blonde ones, where it's tied onto the dreads.

And thanks for the nice compliment.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hardcoremothball on February 22, 2006 09:22:59 AM
this has probably been asked somewhere on this thread before but with 29 pages its kinda hard to sift through it all. i started my dreads about 2 weeks(ish) ago and i totally love them. but they're all wonky.patr are sticking themselves out and they look all windy and crimpy when i have perfectly straight hair to begin with. and my head is getting all fuzzy, how do i get the hairs that come lose(theres a ton of them) into my dreads?how do i get the rots to lock? can some one help this sad little white girl out? i love my dread but theyre looking all wonky and my mom is starting to think i should chop them off! HELP!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on February 22, 2006 10:01:17 AM
well first of all, they will look a bit wonky at first, they need to mature to be real dread-like perfect.
and locking up also takes time, mine took a few months (1st time round) to lock up.
think is, if they feel very loose and thin, maybe you didn't backcomb enough of they have come undone and you should backcomb some more. also the roots, where i suspect your loose hairs are, could be helped to stay 'loose-hair free' bij 1st threading the loose hairs back into the dread (many ways of doing this, just look up on internet at dreadheadhq.com) and then tying the roots with some string or a small elastic band to keep it in place.
Dont overdo on the wax, think of it as a styling product to keep the fuzzyness in control. Just a little will do


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 22, 2006 05:52:04 PM
Firstly... dreadlocks will never be "perfect". There is no such thing. The sooner you accept this the better... Dreads aren't meant to be perfect anyway. That's why most people are attracted to them in the first place.
But you sure can make them look a little tidier and more presentable.

My dreads stuck up for a little while. I'd say maybe a month. To keep them down sleep with a nylon stocking over your head. Or a scarf. That works good.
Also a headband is a good idea. I wore a headband for the longest time.
Anyway you should know that in the begining, frizz is a good sign. It's perfectly normal. Your locks will go through many many changes which will either make you depressed or happy. If you don't mind having messy hair, you'll be happy because your dreads are progressing. The most important thing is to have patience... eventually your dreads will mature and their teenage rebellion against conforming will cease and all will be well. Wax definately helps smoothe out those transitions so that they are barely visible... this is especially good if you have a mom who is concerned or a job you need to keep. If your going to use wax... BE WISE. Don't overuse. It doesn't need to be applied everyday and it doesn't need to be globbed on. Just a little at a time. I also wouldn't waste my time with ddhq. Their products (in my opinion - I've tried them) aren't good. Some may disagree, and really it's totally up to you on where you buy and if you even choose to use products.
All you really need is nothing really. But if you choose to use products make sure your wax is water soluble (ddhq's is not trust me). After having a bad experience with ddhq... I switched to knottyboy. Not only am I happier to be supporting a Canadian company, I just think their products and customer service are just plain better.

As for loose hair... There are tons of things you can do. But what worked best for me was to tie my roots with thread. For this you can use embroidery floss, sewing thread, or I've recently thought that invisible thread would work great too.

Anyway it's easy... Just take your thread and attach a needle to it (this just makes it easier to work with). Now grab all the loose hair wrap it around the root of your dread and then wrap the thread around the whole thing - just at the base. Now make a knot ensuring that your thread won't just fall off after a few minutes. Now your hair will naturally knot this up forming new growth in approx. 3 to 4 months. So just use a seam ripper and pull that thread out after a while. Now if you have the time and the patience you can wrap your roots more often than every 3 to 4 months, but be sure to take the old thread out before adding new thread.

Now if you don't want your tips to unravel it's basically the same process.
1. Use a metal tooth comb and rebackcomb the tip till you can't anymore.
2. Take the remaining hair and suck it into the dread using a small metal crochet hook (very small crochet hook that you can buy for 2$ at a craft store, don't bother paying the 6$ + shipping & handling for ddhq's latch hook).
3. Thread a needle and wrap it around your tip. Make a knot... and voila.
4. Use a seam ripper in about 3-4 months and get rid of the thread.
5. You are left with nice hard rounded tips.

Now once your locks get a little tighter and more mature... you can use a crochet hook to suck in all the loops and frizz that is along the body of the dread. The best about this is that you can do it as often as you'd like, unlike using products. Don't get me wrong, products help too...

Anyway hope this helped a little. If you have any other questions just pm me. I'd be more than happy to answer them. I had lots of questions in the beginning too, no one seemed to help (probably because I don't know very many knotted hair people). One day you'll have most of the answers... knowledge is a part of the whole locking process. You learn as you go.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hardcoremothball on February 22, 2006 06:43:16 PM
thanks ninja that was indeed help full. there is only one person on my entire campus with dreads besides me and i have never met another person with them. having this thread is deffinately helpful. thanks again!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on February 23, 2006 04:18:08 PM
I just put my dreads in about 6 weeks ago and I found this thread helpful too. Naked Ninja and fckadog have lots of good info throughout the 29 pages. One of the links that ninja posted was really helpful http://www.knottylocks.tk/ Really, you don't even have to post anything. Check out the FAQ, the Dreadlocks, and the Dreadlocks 911 sections in particular. I'm sure you'll find most of your questions are answered there.

As for the kinking and general "wonkyness", I can totally relate  ;) My hair has always been really straight too, and in the last couple of weeks, a lot of my dreads have gotten really kinky. I read (probably on the knottylocks forum) that it's just because parts of your dread are tightening up faster than others. It will all even out in time though, so try not to worry about it too much.

My head is pretty fuzzy too. Naked Ninja gave lots of good tips on that; the only thing I'll add is that it helps to accumulate a collection of really cool hats, scarves, bandanas, etc. (I'm knitting a tam right now that I'm pretty excited about  :D) You are going to have bad hair days. Probably for a while. That's just part of having dreads. And if you can change your perspective on it, it can actually be a pretty cool part of having dreads. Just have fun with your crazy out of control hair. Like ninja said, they're going to go through lots of stages, so just try and enjoy each one!

Also, fckadog, how are your dreads coming along? I'm so curious about the dread perm!! How long until you get to wash it?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 23, 2006 06:06:44 PM
Knitting a tam eh? Hmm... well is this your own pattern or a pattern in a book or on the net? I'm really curious because I simply cannot find a pattern for a knitted tam. I guess I could always come up with one, but I have not the time...

I would really like to see it when you're done!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on February 24, 2006 01:24:40 PM
I called around to a few different hair places for prices on getting dreads. The range I'm getting is $175-225. Is that way too much? Is it a better option to go with the kit from knottyboy?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 24, 2006 01:34:45 PM
I think that is a decent price range. If I was to do someone's hair I would probably charge 200$ or 250$ because it's a big job.
You can easily buy the kit from knottyboy but you need someone to do them for you and they have to be patient. It takes a long time... especially if you haven't done them before. Took my mom about 12 hours broken into 2 days... long process.
I would also look into what the process is over at that salon. Some salons like to charge for dreads and dreadperms but when you walk out of there you only end up with something that will wash out the next day. Make sure they are going to be doing something that involves your hair getting knotty...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on February 24, 2006 01:47:13 PM
I think that is a decent price range. If I was to do someone's hair I would probably charge 200$ or 250$ because it's a big job. Make sure they are going to be doing something that involves your hair getting knotty...
Thanks for the tips! I figured if anybody on here knew the answer it'd be you! My SIL wants to do hers this week and we've been checking out knottyboy for tips. I'll make her post pics when they're done. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on February 24, 2006 02:05:19 PM
I think ive said this before...
f-ing 250$ for backcombing????????
thats cheaper than it is here (start at 200 EURO'S and then 5 euro's per dread..)

as for my day of cleanliness.. i think exactly 2 weeks from today (friday)..
the curleys have gone out a bit, theyre still thin but looking a lot better, I'll post a pic sunday i guess
the only thing i can say for this method is that my hair doesnt need bands on it and there is no coming undone, there and no way they go loose :s they just seem more able to stay then when i did them by backcombing, and less squishy :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jellybones on February 24, 2006 02:11:34 PM
I got mine done for $80

they came out great and i wont have to pay for a hair cut again so for me it was worth it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 24, 2006 03:02:41 PM
That's what I figure... if you're going to pay to get them done it's worth the splurge considering you can ditch all those styling products, conditioner, brushes and whatnot. Not to mention that you go through less shampoo. But wow... 80$ is quite the bargain.

Fckadog:
Really that expensive where you are? Wowza... Oh well looks like it was worth it your dreadies are cute! I'm excited to see your progress! I'm such a dork... new growth and dreadlock changes get me all happy even when it doesn't involve my set of dreads. Hahaha...

jezebel7383:
Definately post pics when you get them done!!!! I'm anxious to see em'.
They'll be poofy and sticking up a little for the first week or two but don't despair... they do settle down! I remember I was a little freaked out after all the backcombing because my dreads where sticking up a little... but then I figured out that it was normal.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on February 25, 2006 07:40:13 AM
yeh, i know
well the dread perm is a bit less expencive, say between 150 and 250
and i know the feeling, but i still have to say i enjoy mine the most :) mine mine mine :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on February 25, 2006 04:42:03 PM
splee! look at my dreads!  ;D
http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/dreadies3.JPG


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 25, 2006 05:14:40 PM
Ahh they're beautious! How long have you had them?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on February 25, 2006 06:26:28 PM
Nice dreads milkweed  :)
As for the tam....well when I was visiting my parents last week, I was telling my mom how I wanted to knit a tam. We went through some of her old patterns (wow...some of them were *really* old) and I found a couple balls of yarn. On the label there was a pic of a beret and mittens and a "free" pattern on the reverse side. So that's what I'm using. I'm quite an amateur when it comes to knitting, but so far so good. I've made a few "mistakes" but hey, that just gives it character right?  :D If you're interested, I can pm the pattern to you nakedninja. Just let me know.

On another topic, I bought some fimo today. I want to make a few beads for my dreads, but I wondered if anyone had any tips? I searched this site, and saw that you had made some ninja...how did you size them and keep the hole the right size and intact?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on February 25, 2006 07:07:44 PM
Oh-one more thing...anyone have tips on how to make a peyote stich wrap? I found a pattern, but I was wondering if anyone here had a pattern that worked out well for them? Thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 26, 2006 08:27:46 AM
I thought about using a beret pattern as well... I never seem to get around to it though.
As for the fimo beads:
Well... I don't really remember exactly how I made them. I'm pretty sure I just flattened the fimo and cut strips and then joined the ends all neatly so that you couldn't see a seam and then popped them in the oven. Well that was for the purple ones anyway. And for the green apple ones I'm pretty sure that I made balls and then used a pen cap to punch a hole through. Then I just stuck my finger in there and enlarged the hole... those really didn't look all nice and even but I liked that about them. I didn't really check on sizing... I just hoped they would fit. I'm sure there are tools you can buy that would make this whole process easier... I just didn't feel like buying them.
Just lately I've been thinking of adding beads to the fimo or something like that. The possiblities are endless you know. I also paint the fimo after it's cooked... I don't bother buying different colors. I just buy white and paint them the color I like. If you go this route just make sure you use some type of clear coat or varnish to seal it all off and prevent chipping.

For the peyote stitches:
There is a girl on here whose s/n is patchworkarmy. She makes absolutely wonderfully beautiful peyote stitches. If you come across her posts (one with an argyle pattern, the other with a mushroom, and the other with turtles) you should be able to find some of the links she's posted in there about making peyote stitches. She also links to this free graph paper that allows you to create your own designs. Very chic. Just type in "peyote" in the search and look for patchworkarmy's posts.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on February 26, 2006 09:25:07 AM
Thanks Ninja, that's pretty much what I was planning to do - I was also thinking of adding some little beads to the fimo, or even wrap some wire into it. You're right, the possibilities are endless. Not sure what I'll end up with but it'll probably be pretty funky :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 26, 2006 09:55:14 AM
I just want to pass on a little painting tip that my sculptor teacher passed on to me. It take a really really long time to paint your object, but the result is one that is absolutely amazing. Anyway here it is. Oh and this is done with acrylic paints...

- Decide the color your object will likely be and apply a base coat using a color that will compliment your final hue (ie - the object will be a deep golden brown, your base coat should be a nice golden yellow or orange  -  your object will be red-violet, your base coat should be a nice pink or red). Make sure your entire object is covered with this base coat. Use up to 2 coats and make sure it is opaque.

- Now for the fun part. You need to heavily dilute your paint for this. Take your next color and apply very transparent coats to your object. You can alternate using a different color each time which will add to the effect. Now in between these coats you can add speckles/patterns/lines with your base coat color (or another color that isn't diluted but opaque). After you've done this let it dry and keep layering the transparent coats of color.

When you're all done you should have a finished result that almost looks like glass or even varnished wood or polished stone depending on the patterns you use with your base coat in between the transparent layers. It is an incredibly long process but the finished result is absolutely amaznig. No one will know it's fimo till they touch it. You can even add speckles of metalic paint or whatever you want.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Diane B. on February 27, 2006 09:13:34 AM
Quote
I just buy white and paint them the color I like. If you go this route just make sure you use some type of clear coat or varnish to seal it all off and prevent chipping.


Hi,

Sealing/varnishing shouldn't be necessary on top of painted baked polymer clay though.  If you've used acrylic paints, you can also rebake the beads to extra-"harden" the paint though if you want... (about 250 degrees only, for 5-10 minutes).

Quote
... I'm pretty sure I just flattened the fimo and cut strips and then joined the ends all neatly so that you couldn't see a seam and then popped them in the oven. ... And for the green apple ones I'm pretty sure that I made balls and then used a pen cap to punch a hole through. Then I just stuck my finger in there and enlarged the hole... those really didn't look all nice and even but I liked that about them. ... I'm sure there are tools you can buy that would make this whole process easier... I just didn't feel like buying them.


Where are the photos are that show your beads? ... I didn't see them when I looked quickly, and going back through 57 pages of posts isn't too inviting  :o . 
I might have some suggestions for tools-around-the-house that could be helpful though, but can't tell because I'm not exactly sure what they look like.
 
If you just want to be able to make attractive and even holes of any size, and also keep the clay nicely shaped while doing it, you might want to check out these pages at my site anyway:

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/beads.htm

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/beads-holes.htm



Diane B.
--- polymer clay "encyclopedia"
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/contents.htm




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on February 27, 2006 10:05:56 AM
Thanks Diane B. I've visited your site before. Very useful.

Sorry for the really bad pictures. I used to have to use my webcam and it was a very crappy camera that was probably 2 megapixels or something.



(These were painted using my sculptor teacher's technique which is really hard to see because my camera was shitty) Also these beads are a little wonky but I really like that about them. Gives them a neat look.



These are actually done with a green base coat and a purple shimmer mixed with the sealer. Looks really neato in the light... which you can't see because of the bad quality.

Also I didn't know that you didn't need a sealer... I think I still prefer to use one though because I use a glossy one that makes eveyrhing really shiny.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Diane B. on February 28, 2006 08:41:27 AM
Oh, those are really nice! 

You could make the insides a little smoother by using some of the techniques on the pages I linked to, but would they be as effective for holding onto your hair if they weren't a little rough or uneven??

Since you like them shiny, you'll have to try making some with colored clays, then sanding and buffing them to a high glossy shine sometime too! 
If you want to try, here's some info on sanding and buffing (though you can't get a high-gloss shine without a Dremel, bench grinder with muslin wheel, or something else electric)... can get a beautiful sheen though):

http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/sanding_tumbling.htm
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/buffing.htm

(and if you have a Dremel:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/tools_Dremels_worksurfaces.htm)


Also, since your second set of beads are pretty much "tube beads," did you check out the section on my Beads page for easy ways to make tubes?  Some of those are good for making lots of tube beads at once.
 
You could even make your green ones as a form of modified tube too --by rolling a rod back and forth over the clay log (which is threaded on a large knitting needle on skewer, for example) wherever you want each bead to end, then making the actual cut with a blade, and baking. 






Diane B.
--- polymer clay "encyclopedia"
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/contents.htm






Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on February 28, 2006 02:06:27 PM
Ahh they're beautious! How long have you had them?

oye! srry i havent answered that  :-X , i forgot about this thread. but i think i've had my dreads for about...5 months.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 02, 2006 07:54:11 AM
i did a naughty thing...
well... naughty? I washed my hair a week too soon, then again, i deserved to because the smell of perm came back after the snow got my hair wet yesterday
just to show what it has become (before wax:





dont notice the odd expression and the hood up, both are needed to take pictures...

theyre quite a bit softer to the touch now (they were rock hard after being permed) and feel just like my regularly done dreads did after i washed them for the first time.. theyve lost most of the curl (yay!) and are just a bit loose at the bottom bits (i tied the tops with some bands last week)
i'll post pictures when waxxed and touched up tomorrow, for now they need to dry


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on March 10, 2006 08:01:42 AM
Got a question: I crocheted a few of my tips and it worked out really well...just wondering how the middle will knot up now that the ends won't be moving around?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 12, 2006 06:56:18 AM
They will... don't put so much thought into it.  :D It all happens in good time trust me.

Fckadog :
Very nice!

Diane B. :
Thanks for the links... Last summer I practically read over your entire site... very interesting stuff on there. And no the beads don't have to be rugged in order to stay on the dread... I just kind of like the ruggedness of those beads. I didn't want them to look perfect as I've said before. I went in the other direction with the purple ones though... they are seamless.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: craftgirl_sampson on March 12, 2006 07:32:31 AM
i was think on getting dreadlock after my gr.12 grad. i was just think cause in the summer i'm always in the water.
 i almost live in the lake. would the do anything to the dreadlocks. or would it be better for me not to get them.
cause my favorite thing in the summer is swimming, tubing, and dirt biking.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 12, 2006 08:53:21 AM
I think this maybe one of the biggest myths... you definately CAN swim with dreadlocks. I swim everyday in the summer. Of course if they are new they may get a little untangled and loose but that doesn't matter. Just tie off your tips if you don't want that happening.

I suggest you read all of the useful info that people put into this thread.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 13, 2006 11:37:30 AM
plus, depending on how long the dreads are they might also retain a hellova lot of water and get a bit heavy, or am i thinking of synthetics? i havent gone swimming in years!!! sand is not well my thing i guess
but id suggest dirt biking with something covering your hair (u know, when its wet, dirt splash), dirt is quite frowned upon when found in hair  :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 13, 2006 01:27:21 PM
Sand is alright... I mean I swim ALOT in the summer. Everyday. If you get sand in your dreads it's alright... just go for another swim! I also skateboard and when we go to indoor parks I have to wear a helmet (as you do when dirtbiking) and at the end of the day you smell kind of rank... but then you just go for another swim or preferably a shower accompanied by shampoo and soap.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 14, 2006 01:42:33 PM
lol, no helmets here in holland (as far as i know), i hadn't thought of the fact of wearing one, or even fitting one :S i hardly fit any of my old hats (and i have loads to cover my short hair, now useless)
tho falling on your head does hurt, maybe not a bad idea to wear a good helmet, even if your dreads are like tiny long cushion things stuck to your head
and btw, sand is not my thing because it tags along with me for the next 6 months after ive gone to the beach, and not just in my hair but in my phone, camera, bag, shoes.. u name it!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 14, 2006 05:05:49 PM
Haha! Wow I guess I've never really had a problem with sand then. Hehe. I just hate it when you get out of the water and run to your towel and your feet get covered in wet scratchy sand. I HATE THAT!
No helmets in Holland? Seriously? I thought they sold helmets everywhere... I actually have to buy a new one... Last summer I had to rip out all of the padding to get it to fit me (which pretty much renders it useless). I just didn't feel like spending 100$ again when I knew the 16 year olds collecting the 2$ admission to the skatepark wouldn't actually check to see if the helmet is "certifiably safe".
I'm actually really curious as to whether or not dreadlocks would cushion your head at all if you smacked it against the pavement or something. I think it would a little... but I've never hit my head since I've had dreads so I have yet to know... If it happens though I'll make sure to let everyone know if it makes a difference. We can start our own Dreadlock Mythbusters group or something... hahaha  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 20, 2006 02:38:37 PM
well my last boyfriend used to use them as a cushion whilst watching tv.. so thats some form of comfort giving to heads, right? dont know if that means its smach on pavement proof.
and you have to pay to go to a skatepark? or is that just some random big one with tons of wonderfull extra's? we have loads of halfpipes n junk around here, near schools, parks, behind the supermarket (thats a wonderfull place to put one, you skate get tired and thirsty/hungry, tadaa food right infront of you!) ... for free and helmetless

and as for Dreadlock Mythbusters, we should make a list and bust it :) or if not that we have to do something dreadlock related, im feeling a need to be creative


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 20, 2006 04:35:48 PM
We only pay for indoor skateparks... the outdoor parks are free.

Oh man... We should have a DREADLOCK SWAP!!! We can all make dread related items and swap them with fellow dreadheads.  :D I'd be up for it in the future... It would be fun.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 21, 2006 04:49:49 AM
but in the future as you said, i have exams coming up and i so want to take part if we do it :)
now we just need everyone else to join in...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on March 21, 2006 05:24:22 AM
I've been watching this thread for a while now, and I'd just like to say... I would most definitely be up for a dreadlock swap  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 21, 2006 06:38:01 AM
but in the future as you said, i have exams coming up and i so want to take part if we do it :)
now we just need everyone else to join in...

Agreed.
Ontario College teachers are on strike right now... and the last thing I should be doing is crafting... I'm trying to work independently as much as I can at the momen...t so till my year ends I would most definately be out.
Maybe we can start one in the summer or at a time where most people can participate. I'm assuming end of june beginning of july would be alright for most people (unless their planning on vacationing).

I participated in a swap over at knottylocks.tk last summer and it was great... except that my partner didn't send me anything dreadlock related (but the items she sent were awesome none the less! I loved everything she sent...) 

I seemed to have noticed that there are more dreadheads on this board than I previously thought... We may have a good handfull of people willing to participate. This could possibly be quite fun.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on March 24, 2006 10:11:13 AM
about swiming, im leaveing florida today and we swam (is swam a word?) like every day we were down here and my neck was hurting from my dreads holding so much water when i got out. also i have a TON of lose hairs now and the kept geting knoted around my swim suit  >:( .


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 24, 2006 10:22:11 AM
Hmm... Well I guess it depends on how mature your locks are... I just haven't had a problem.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Cocoacurly on March 26, 2006 12:01:45 AM
I don't have locs I'm an afro puff natural and have been since 2003 but I am curious.
What products work best at:
1. Keeping your locs soft (in winter, summer, spring & fall)?
2. What do you use to cleanse your scalp?
3. When you started your locs what did you use to roll your baby locs?

 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 27, 2006 06:08:07 AM
Cocoacurly:

We both have totally different types of hair. Mine is super slick straight fine....
I will tell you what I used though and other things I've heard of.

1) I do have really dry hair in the winter so I can sympathise with that. You can actually buy dreadlock conditionning spray from KnottyBoy but it isn't recommended for baby dreads... I use it from time to time and I like it. But there are alternatives. You can mix tea tree oil with a carrier oil like jojoba and spritz that on your hair and scalp once in a while (you'd have to talk to someone at a health food store to see the proper mixture ratios). I also use KnottyBoy wax (VERY LIGHTLY) when I notice my locks are real dry. It works just fine.
ALOE is the best! If you can't grow your own plant go to a health food store and buy the juice (make sure it's just aloe and it usually comes in a gel form). Take it home and store it in the fridge. You can mix it with water or just apply it like that. If you don't like aloe smell just mix it with a few drops of your favorite essential oil. I love tea tree, peppermint, rosemary, or even lavender. Just apply it to your locks. It really makes them look smooth too.

2) Cleanse your scalp as in wash/shampoo? Or cleanse your scalp as in in-between shampooing?
Well if your talking about shampoo there are tons on the market.
Giovanni's Tea Tree Triple Threat
Melaleuca's Naturals Shampoo (can only order at www.melaleuca.com)
Knotty Boy's soap bar or liquid shampoo
Neutrogena's Anti-Residue shampoo (can be bought at Walmart or Costco)
Dr. Bronners
................. the list goes on.

Cleansing your scalp in between shampooing... well...
I guess you can just rinse everyday without shampoo.
You could also use the jojoba/tea tree oil mixture and massage your scalp with it every now and then.
If you want to really cleanse your scalp maybe once a month I suggest you use apple cider vinegar. Mix it with water (and even a few drops of essential oil if you want) and plop your head it and massage your scalp and squeeze your locks. It will loosen all the crud on your scalp and clean it right out removing excess oils and all that.

Which brings me to something else. Kyndmama posted this method of deep cleansing your dreadies.
Here is the direct quote from Knottylocks:
"Get a BIG bowl of warm water, mix in about 3/4 c of baking soda, 8-9 drops of tea tree oil, 2 T of lemon juice, and 2T of salt stir until well dissolved. use a squirt bottle or something to apply to your scalp and soak all your dreads real well ~ wrap up in a towel and let them sit for like 1/2 an hour or so ~ then rinse( and rinse again ). Now I dunno if I just have really dirty dreadies or something but when I rinsed my hair the water was muddy brown ~ gross!~ It deep cleans the middle of the dread I guess. I do this like once a month now.(Aside from using regular shampoo) Let me know if you get the same results!"

3) I just used KnottyBoy wax but it isn't necessary. Nothing is really necessary when you have dreads. You can just let them do their own thing, or you can provide some assistance it's up to you. Some of the curlier folks on knottylocks have mentioned something about lock gel which they supposedly buy by the bucket at african hair salons. Knotty Boy has lock gel, but in a smaller size. If you could get your hands on something larger (which will undoubtebly be cheaper) you should.
During the christmas holidays I went to some techie shop and the guy ahead of me in line had the most awesome dreadlocks I've ever seen. He was black and judging by his roots, his hair was very very curly. I started talking to him and then he began to tell me how he used bees wax in the beginning and now he didn't use a thing because they were over 10 years old. So wax does work for super textured hair as well. Really it's all up to you as to what you want to use in your locks. I don't really suggest pure beeswax because it's really hard to wash out, but I mean some people have used it and it seems to have worked for them. Anyway find out what works best for you (if you ever decide to get dreadlocks).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on March 30, 2006 01:43:44 PM
I would TOTALLY do a crafty dread swap!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on March 30, 2006 04:05:30 PM
Awesome! We should organize one in the near future!  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on March 31, 2006 03:01:17 AM
*HUGE HINT*
might be a good idea for it to be after may ::) :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: someperson on April 08, 2006 09:10:55 AM
I have a question...I'm sorry if it's been asked before, and if it has, you can definitely ignore it...but I haven't found the answer on these boards

Why did you (you speaking to anyone with locks) choose to have dreadlocks?

I want them SO so so badly, but my dance coach told me that I couldn't because apparently our team has to look uniform...except there are girls with short hair and girls with long hair and they don't look the same  >:(  I hate that so many people have misconceptions about dreadlocks.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 08, 2006 11:28:25 AM
I want them SO so so badly, but my dance coach told me that I couldn't because apparently our team has to look uniform...except there are girls with short hair and girls with long hair and they don't look the same  >:(  I hate that so many people have misconceptions about dreadlocks.

Wow... that is by far the worst excuse I've ever heard given to encourage someone not to get dreadlocks. HAha... oh my.

Why did you (you speaking to anyone with locks) choose to have dreadlocks?

Well I've always wanted them. I contemplated getting them for about 4 or 5 years and then I just did. It was my first month of college and after I got my dreads I realized how they marked a very important part of my life. In highschool I was rather laid-back... I was kind of shy... my self-esteem wasn't too great... I wanted to get rid of those negative aspects of my personality... and I did. Dreadlocks really had nothing to do with that seeing as I had put a stop to my nonsense ways as soon as I got my highschool diploma. It was a goal I had set for myself. I feel that my dreadlocks accentuate my personality seeing as I am much more bold, independent, happy, and confident in myself and my appearance. They are somewhat of a totem to those things I guess... if you want to look at it that way.

I also find that dreadlocks have taught me alot about myself... Things like being able to turn to the other cheek, not being embarassed or hurt by others frowns and sometimes hurtful words. They also gave me a few good lessons in patience and the acceptance of myself and others. I mean, I could have learned these things without getting dreads... they just kind of force you into situations you normally wouldn't stumble into with normal hair I guess.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 09, 2006 11:18:18 AM
Why did you (you speaking to anyone with locks) choose to have dreadlocks?

I've never not wanted them, with one exception of when i was 13 and wanted to have short hair (bad idea..)
I can relate quite a bit to what Naked Ninja said.
When I first did them (i cut them off for stupid reasons, minor identity crisis, great learning exp. thank god theyre back now) it was for me the next step in being more 'loud' or what i feel is me. Since I moved to Holland I've been sort of the odd ball of the class/school. I didn't mind much, at times being left out did hurt but these are things many kids deal with so it seemed stupid to get hung up on it. After 6 years of being quiet and taking all the crap I kept getting for being a bit different I decided to change that by cutting my hair (yes, this is the short hair moment) and changing how I dressed (I changed to what I wanted to wear, not what everyone else was wearing)..
Well after a few years of that and still being picked on you get a bit cold to it, it doesn't matter as much.. I had gotten a different style, music choice and friends, and for some reason dreads fit in with that.. May sound a bit stupid.. I listen to this type of music so I got dreads, but it did give me a bit of a push. I had synthetic dreads on and off for a year (once let my brother try dread my hair, but it looked ..very bad, so took it out that week) and then finally decided to go ahead and do it.

It added to being myself. I felt happy because of them.

Having dreadlocks makes me feel more like I me, I feel that they're the same as having tattoo's or piercings done for the purpose of finishing your mental image of real yourself. And that boosts your self-esteem like hell!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 09, 2006 12:06:57 PM
Hehe Fckadog! I went through that short hair phase too... unfortunately it was right before I decided to get dreads. Thank god the hairdresser didn't cut my hair as short as I really wanted it.  :D


Also another note on that topic:
I'm not sure if this is something that lots of dreadheads have in common, but I feel much more natural now that I have them. Sounds silly, but it's true. I've always been a natural type of girl, but I feel that I am now more than ever. It is an incredibly liberating feeling to wake up in the morning and not have to go through dozens of products just to get my hair to look right. I just get up and go... and it feels sooo good.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 09, 2006 12:16:45 PM
I love not having to mess with my hair (as much) in the morning
Icky EXPENCIVE products that don't do what they should anyway..
Using a straightener must have really done my hair good aswell..
Thank god that now the only way i can ruin it is by over bleaching

Btw, Naked Ninja, I saw you and I don't remember who exactly talking about tying the hair at the roots with string (like they do at hair police) just wanted to know if you've tried it and more importantly how long or how far did they tie it, if that makes sense? :)
I saw them doing it when I had my hair done but can't for the life of me remember if they did anything else to the hair at the time aswell..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 09, 2006 01:13:46 PM
I'm not exactly 100% sure as to how hairpolice does it... but this is how I do it (and yes I've tried it and it works wonders).

Basically all you need is string in the color of your hair (duh! hehe).
A needle (just so that handling the thread is a little easier)
Some patience
A crochet hook if you  have one.

1. Thread your needle

2. Grab one of your dreads and gather all of the loose fuzz and loose hairs around that are supposed to be part of your root.

3. Either use a clip, an elastic, your fingers... whatever. Just make sure that all of that hair is bunched up with your root.

4. Use your thread and wrap it around at the base of your root. Tight enough to hold everything in and then just make a knot. Don't pass the needle through your dread because this will make the removing process a little harder becaue the thread will naturally want to dread up with the rest of your hair. Just wrap enough thread around the base to hold everything together... maybe wrap around your root 3 to 5 times? You really don't want this to stick out like an eyesore... Think of the thread as a small rubber band... but much better because rubber bands suck.

5. If you have a crochet hook, use it to tuck in all of the loose fuzz that will likely be sticking straight up against your dread after you've wrapped it.

What this does is take all of your loose hair and incorporate it back to where it is supposed to be. You can remove the thread with a seam ripper in about 3 to 4 months (or even earlier if you'd like... I usually take it out after 2 months) and it should be nice and dready. I hardly have loose fuzz anymore... it works awesome. In the beginning you may need to do it more often.. but as you go along you'll have to do it less and less.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: firzenma on April 09, 2006 05:11:12 PM
yes you wash your hair, I don't have them my cousin used to she cut them off, but you don't have to as often. some people don't wash them because they're nasty. yea I've seen crap and grim and strange white stuff in them. but I know what you're talking about, in general you do wash your hair when you have dreads. Dreads are nice on the right person and if they're kept clean I also like the smaller ones but hey that's just me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 10, 2006 02:49:53 PM
yes you wash your hair, I don't have them my cousin used to she cut them off, but you don't have to as often. some people don't wash them because they're nasty. yea I've seen crap and grim and strange white stuff in them. but I know what you're talking about, in general you do wash your hair when you have dreads. Dreads are nice on the right person and if they're kept clean I also like the smaller ones but hey that's just me.

the white stuff could have been wax. the wax i used when i first got my dreads was white and it kinda made my hair like greyish color. but i havent waxed or aloed my hair in forever.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 10, 2006 03:05:54 PM
this is what you get when you dont take care of your dreadlocks  ;D


http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/uglydread.JPG


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on April 10, 2006 03:08:29 PM
I like haggard dreds. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 10, 2006 08:07:26 PM
this is what you get when you dont take care of your dreadlocks  <picture removed for space>

Actually, that just looks like normal dreads to me. They seem to go through a lot of phases...mine are now at 3 months and they're doing all those crazy loopy/kinky things. I'm actually pretty excited about it because I figure it means that they're tightening up  :D And it can't be because I don't take care of them...I love my dreadies! Also, some people just really like their dreads 'au naturel' with no maintenance...each to their own  ;)

I can certainly relate to Ninja and Fckadog's explanation of why they got dreads. I've always loved dreads, but felt like it would be such a huge commitment - once I put them in, I knew I'd have them for a while. I also worried they wouldn't look good, or people would think they were ugly, etc. But as I've gotten older, I've become much more comfortable with myself and I've gotten much better at saying 'to hell with them' and actually meaning it. I have a bunch of facial piercings, and several visible tattoos and have for over ten years. Being creative and doing fun things with my hair is just another extension of my funky personality. It's something I've always done. Really, I think this question could be applied to any hairstyle. Some people choose to have dreads just like some people choose to have the stereotypical "girly" hair, or others choose a mohawk. It just depends on what you feel good in  :D Unfortunately dreads have a certain stigma attached to them unlike say, an A-line bob.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on April 11, 2006 06:00:35 AM
Well, I figured it was time to weigh in with some photos... here are my dreads at (nearly) one year old:





Some are loopy, some are kinked and there's a fair bit of loose hair, but I love the way they're coming together, and I like the different stages they're going through.

I wanted them for a number of reasons. I hate all the pressure that says unless you own the right straighteners you're not human. I hate putting nasty chemicals on my hair and into the environment. I like being able to have an extra half-an-hour in bed instead of getting up to wash and style my hair (I wash my dreads once a week, on Saturday  ;)). I like being a bit different. And I like having a hair don't instead of a hair do!

But whatever hairstyle you have, there's always going to be people making assumptions about you. People assume that cos I've got dreads I smoke loads of weed, but in point of fact I don't. And when my hair was really short, many people assumed I was gay. You just can't win  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Fiona Fiona on April 11, 2006 11:15:35 AM
Ohhh, I love your dreads, Safetyfox. I like short dreadlocks!

I've been growing my hair out for dreadlocks since a couple months ago, when I found out that it's actually possible for someone with silky hair like me (except now that I've been using natural shampoo so it's not gross and oily anymore). Ever since I can remember I've wanted the type of hair that gets stuck on velcro though. My mom thinks I can't maintain dreadlocks though, she's worried they'll get all matted and undone or something because I rarely do anything to my hair. I never brush, blowdry, or style my hair. I'm pretty sure I've read that "dreadlocks are the easiest hairstyle to maintain" a hundred billion times, though. Even if they weren't, I'm still prepared to do anything for dreadlocks. I'm completely obsessed with them, I think they're the most beautiful hairstyle ever.

My mom's also worried about how I'll be treated when I lock my hair. But I don't care about that either, everybody thinks I'm a weird art hippie anyway. I've already dealt with people's misconceptions about dreadlocks too, like I said, I'm completely obsessed with them and I kinda talk about them a lot. So I'm not too worried.

I really want to get them over spring break, I'll keep you guys posted on how that goes.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 11, 2006 12:45:50 PM
"I'm pretty sure I've read that "dreadlocks are the easiest hairstyle to maintain" a hundred billion times"

NO NO NO NO NO
they're only easy when you put the effort into them!
you work to make them look good and then for a while you can slack, but having dreads is a big deal maintain wise..

All the backcombing, washing carefully, drying, waxing, threading in loose hairs and so on!
A normal haircut is less trouble because all you do is wash, dry, style and thats it kinda, right?

If you don't have the time or want to put the effort in then your dreads will not be looking the best they can.. UNLESS you want them to look a bit neglected, then thats the way to go and some people like that, you just have to figure out if that's what you want!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 11, 2006 08:11:00 PM
Someone mentioned something about white spots on dreads...
This is probably just the hair follicles at the end of each hair (the little piece of skin at the end). It shows more on darker dreads... it's nothing to worry about. Normal people lose quite a few hairs during the day... the difference between normal hair and dreadlocks is that those fallen hairs get trapped into the dread (which is why you see all of these little white spots).
If the body of the dread looks greasy white... I suggest you tell your friend to use much less wax. Biggest and worst mistake I hear about... people using too much wax. A little goes a long way.

Safetyfox:
Beauties!!! They look great! My dreads were about the same lenght when I first started them.

milkweed*:
I actually still have a few dreads that have small loops on them after over 1 year and a half. I rather like my loops. I do maintenance, but I try not to interfere with the natural look of them. I just like to keep my roots and loose hair sorted. Anyway nice loopage. Looks great!

"I'm pretty sure I've read that "dreadlocks are the easiest hairstyle to maintain" a hundred billion times"

NO NO NO NO NO
they're only easy when you put the effort into them!
you work to make them look good and then for a while you can slack, but having dreads is a big deal maintain wise..

All the backcombing, washing carefully, drying, waxing, threading in loose hairs and so on!
A normal haircut is less trouble because all you do is wash, dry, style and thats it kinda, right?

If you don't have the time or want to put the effort in then your dreads will not be looking the best they can.. UNLESS you want them to look a bit neglected, then thats the way to go and some people like that, you just have to figure out if that's what you want!!!



Although I often preach about maintenance... it really isn't necessary... all that is necessary is time and patience. Time will handle everything... just go to knottylocks.tk and look for phunkybrewster's pictures. She is a natural dreadhead... she let them form naturally and doesn't do any maintenance besides ripping appart a few congoes... and they are by far one of my favorite set of dreads.
The problem is that we as people are impatient by nature. We want everything now... so what do we do to make things look better in the meantime? Maintenance. Also some of us cannot afford the luxuries of letting all hang loose... so we do maintenance.

Even with maintenance I don't find dreadlocks to be incredibly time consuming. Set aside about 1 hour a week to clean things up a bit and you're all set. I am an incredibly lazy person as far as hair goes... and I don't find dreads to be a nuissance to me.

But you definately are right about the maintenance and time thing. After a while the work involved in keeping them looking great is near to none... This on the other hand also happens with neglected dreads. In good time (far more time of course) they also look great.

As fo washing... well I just wash them like I washed my normal hair... I'm quite vigorous about it... I even put the shower head on massage once in a while.

Maybe dreadperms require different maintenance? I don't know much of anything about dreadperms...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on April 12, 2006 01:59:50 AM
Thanks FionaFiona and Naked_Ninja for your kind words  :D

My hair was about 8" at its longest when I had my dreads done -- but in places it was much shorter because it was layered. My hair is really fine and silky so it looked thin, but once the guys got started on my hair we all realised that I actually had an awful lot of it, so I ended up with 50+ dreads (I've never managed an accurate count!)

As for maintenance, I wash them once a week with knottyboy shampoo, and every so often have a palm-rolling, root-rubbing and congo-ripping session. That's all they seem to need, really. But last summer, about three months after having them done, I spent three weeks in the Greek Islands and I was in and out of the sea and in the sun every day. That seemed to do my dreads (and me!) the world of good -- got them nice and tight from the salt water and a bit bleached from the sun. So I guess the moral is -- treat your dreads to a holiday   ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 12, 2006 04:36:23 AM
Quote
Even with maintenance I don't find dreadlocks to be incredibly time consuming. Set aside about 1 hour a week to clean things up a bit and you're all set. I am an incredibly lazy person as far as hair goes... and I don't find dreads to be a nuissance to me.

But you definately are right about the maintenance and time thing. After a while the work involved in keeping them looking great is near to none... This on the other hand also happens with neglected dreads. In good time (far more time of course) they also look great.

As fo washing... well I just wash them like I washed my normal hair... I'm quite vigorous about it... I even put the shower head on massage once in a while.

Maybe dreadperms require different maintenance? I don't know much of anything about dreadperms...

Well dreadperms as far as I have found are pretty much the same with the exception that your hair is more.. twisted.
But both times I've had dreads my maintenance level was high because if I didnt do anything they would fall out, get loops, stray hairs or just look bad in general. And 1 hour a week, thats more than I can manage! I try my best to fit dread rehab in 1ce a month..

But any 'normal' hair style (not counting coloring) is less time consuming because its a regular 5 to 10 mins a day routine. If you dont keep up your dreads from time to time (in the beginning it's important) they will grow out, get bumps lumps and whatever.

You're right that you can let them go natural, but it just depends on how you want them.. But I'm just trying to stress that dreads are not the kind of thing you need when you don't want to do anthing with your hair..

And the washing thing.. I'd love to have a good go at them, but the ends are still pretty easily untangled, so maybe in a few months?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 12, 2006 12:35:39 PM
Safetyfox:
Sounds like we have very similar hair.
I too have very find silky hair... but my mom also found out that I had a hell of a lot of it too. I also have 50+ dreads. I think in the beginning I had something like 58 or 68... can't remember. Anyway my dreads look nothing like my very flat, non volumous, silky, fine hair... it really came as a shock after having them backcombed.


Fckadog:
Yeah I don't spend 1 hour a week on my dreads. I spend about 2 hours every couple of months... I haven't done anything to my dreads (except wash them) since before christmas...
But in reality 1 hour a week isn't much compared to what some folks do... straighteners, curlers... yadda yadda... thank god we don't have to go through that kind of stuff.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on April 15, 2006 01:57:25 AM
last night i shaved my friends hair who has had dreads for 4 years... it was a sad night.. but she wants a change.... she cried... but is ok now...

now we are having fun thinking of ideas of what to do with the dreads... belt, rug, hat...  fun creepy things..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on April 15, 2006 04:56:18 AM
Heehee, dread crafts... that's so epic.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 15, 2006 07:56:20 AM
last night i shaved my friends hair who has had dreads for 4 years... it was a sad night.. but she wants a change.... she cried... but is ok now...

now we are having fun thinking of ideas of what to do with the dreads... belt, rug, hat...  fun creepy things..

Sell them on ebay... hahaha... no joke... I saw that once.

I've even heard of some people donating their dreads to their fellow dreaded friends... you just sew them on and they eventually dread with the other persons already existing dreads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: turtblu on April 15, 2006 08:15:11 AM
last night i shaved my friends hair who has had dreads for 4 years... it was a sad night.. but she wants a change.... she cried... but is ok now...

now we are having fun thinking of ideas of what to do with the dreads... belt, rug, hat...  fun creepy things..

My husband and I just cut mine off last Friday, and I've been thinking about the same question.... I've been debating making a head out of clay or wool and then using the dreads as hair, all.... shrunken head style?
But a belt... that would be pretty cool.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on April 15, 2006 08:57:51 AM
Knit a hat and graft the dreads on, in case you feel like revisiting your dreaded past :D ?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on April 15, 2006 09:27:46 AM
Knit a hat and graft the dreads on, in case you feel like revisiting your dreaded past :D ?
she wants to do this and  have it as her burning man hat!

and a dreaded friend already wants a couple for her hair... its funny tho cause in the dreads we shaved off a few friends and her had already exchanged dreads so there are some really funky ones in the mix!

i wonder how much she could get on ebay? thats so weird!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on April 16, 2006 02:12:06 AM
Maybe if you sewed them all together you could knit them into something...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 16, 2006 08:53:42 AM
I asked this question on the knottylocks forum and I got a snarky reply telling me to cut my hair, presumably because I want to do something to make my hair look less messy, which apparently, is a lesser form of locks. I think that's pretty lame, considering that, as people with dreads we know what it's like to be judged. We shouldn't have to worry about rude remarks *within* the dread community. After all, I don't judge people for choosing to go completely natural and having messy hair, so why should I be judged for my decisions on how to develop my locks. Sheesh. Ok, that's the end of my rant  ;)

Anyway, I'm graduating from university this year (YAY!), and I'm trying to find a decent job. I've got lots of loose hair, particularly in the back which I'm ok with for the most part, but I think potential employers will judge me as messy etc. I'm just wondering if there's something I can do so when I go into interviews I can look a little neater and more professional. I've tried using the embroidery floss, and to be frank I suck at it. I can't reach the back of my head either, so I enlisted my partner to help me and he had trouble too. We're so inept  :D I've read your "how to" earlier in this thread Ninja, and followed it, but I'm still having trouble. I was thinking that (in theory) using a crochet hook to pull in the loose hairs might work. Anyone tried this? Also if I can't find someone to do the back for me, what can I do? I was thinking of just using some type of gel or something that would temporarily make it look a little tidier. I do use wax from time to time (gasp! yes it's true), but *very* little and not very often (I learned the hard way  :D), and I don't think this would be the answer. Thanks for any tips!
PS-If you do make anything with the cut-off dreads, I hope you post it, it sounds like a cool idea and I'd love to see it!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 16, 2006 09:59:55 AM
Hmmm... as for knottylocks... well... let's just say I don't post there anymore. I still browse the useful posts but I refuse to post there. I was downright turned off by that forum's new "natural dreads makes you holy" attitude. It never used to be like that... but it is now. I wouldn't listen to their snotty remarks about cutting your dreads... they are just assholes who seem to think that as soon as you lay a hand on your dreads you become some sort of scum that isn't even worth having them (excuse the language). What these people don't realize is that in REALITY, in order to secure a good decent job or have any sort of respect from your community, most of the time you need to look at least semi-professional. This is reality, whether you like it or not... I mean of course if I sat on my ass all day posting on forums and telling people to cut their locks for trying to improve their appearance, this may not apply to me. Unfortunately I wouldn't be content with working on the grill at McDonalds for the rest of my life... and I'm sure many of us feel the same way. Why would we let our dreadlocks interfere with our career goals? Why would we want to lose job opportunities over them? And why would we want to keep spreading a nasty stereotype that dreadlocks are always messy and always dirty? I feel that by keeping my head tidy and clean I'm informing people that - yes dreadlocks don't have to be messy and they certainly can look professional. Anyway I'm about done ranting as well... I'm just happy that I don't have this attitude that certain dreads are better than others. I love them all whether they are messy or not.

mitsie99 :
Do you have a picture of your locks? I'd like to see them!
As for loose hairs... hmm... if your having a hard time wrapping them... what if you used an aid such as a small elastic to keep everything in place while you were wrapping them? This is usually what I do. You could also try to find a salon near you that does dread maintenance. If I lived near you I would do it for you, but chances are that I don't. I'm in Sudbury Ontario Canada. I do know that the Hair Police in Toronto do campus tours....

On the note of wax... This can help keep things looking tidy. Other things that I've heard good things about is the knottyboy lock gel. It contains aloe and aloe is awesome!! It really makes your locks look soft. You can also buy aloe gel at a health food store. Just smooth it over your locks and either rinse it out after a while or leave it in. I use aloe straight from my aloe plant. I just cut a leaf off, put it in the blender, add water, and then strain it. Then I use it in the shower as a rinse after shampooing and rinsing off my dreads.

Also how long are your locks? Why don't you just learn to style them somehow? Tie them in a ponytail. What about headbands, hats, and wraps?
I absolutely love these:
http://www.knottyboy.com/shop/dread_hats/dread_wraps/

I wouldn't pay $25.00 for them though. It looks like a very simple long strip of fabric that you just wrap around your dreads. Same goes for their recycled t-shirt dreadbands. Those can totally be made yourself.

Depending on the job you're going for... what about an african style wrap? Phunkybrewster makes some pretty nice ones:
http://www.phunkybrewster.com/AfricanWraps.html

If your locks are long enough... I find these looks pretty professional looking. Come to think of it... you could probably do something very similar with short locks:
http://www.knottyboy.com/images/photos/play/jervais-stripeyscarf1.jpg
http://www.knottyboy.com/images/photos/play/sarah-scarf3.jpg

You could also try to crochet your loose hairs back into your dreads...
Dreadballs work good too. Just take your thumb and your index finger and grab your loose hairs with them and rub it between your thumb and index till a little dreadball forms. Once this happens just take that dreadbal and crochet it into your root.

I've also heard of latch hooking (you know those rug hooks), but I haven't personally tried this so I couldn't really tell you anything about this method.

Umm... I guess you could also use a big darning needle and just sew your loose hairs back into your dreads.

I'm trying to think of other things... but I'm stumped right now.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 16, 2006 02:14:51 PM
Hey Ninja, I didn't know you were in Canada, me too, but I'm on the east coast in Halifax, Nova Scotia. As for knottylocks, I've always been hesitant to post there because since I've been on there (it's only been about 3 months) I've seen so many people ripped on for the smallest things. I don't get it and it's unfortunate, but oh well. It was nice to read your thoughts on it though; you articulated exactly how I feel when it comes to looking professional. Sometimes, it's just reality and you have to do it. And I don't think that having dreads and being a professional are incompatible. I've worked my ass off for this degree so I can help people and make a difference in the world, and I'm not going to waste it over the way my hair looks. I'm also not willing to get rid of my dreads. I love them, and I think the only way people's misconceptions can be challenged and changed is if they see something that doesn't fit into their stereotype/prejudgement, e.g. I have dreads, don't smoke weed, am a hard worker, and my hair is far from dirty. Even if it makes one person question their assumptions about people who choose dreads, then that's great.

So here are some recent pics of my locks:
Front


Side


Back


I'm quite pleased with how they're coming along  ;D I get excited about every little change they go through!

I'd like to try the aloe...I have an aloe plant, but no blender. Can I just take the jelly part from the middle and use that?
As for styling, I do lots of things with them. I've got some cool hats, lots of funky headbands, etc. and that helps on those days where they're all crazy. I too love those headwraps on the kb site; it even gives the measurements...hmmmm it'd be pretty easy to make one...I think I'll give it a try.
In the next day or so, I'm going to try the dreadballing method, and also, using an elastic to hold everything in place while I tie the thread on. Thanks for your suggestions Ninja, you've been very helpful!  :D Oh, one last thing, how far away from the root do you tie the thread?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 16, 2006 03:22:08 PM
Wow they look awesome!!! I don't think they look messy or anything. I honestly think you could get away with them the way they are. They seem long enough to tie back too so that is a bonus!

Yep yep... Knottylocks is going to the dogs nowadays. Too bad. I learned a lot from that forum. Almost everything I know about dreadlocks stems from people I've chatted with on there. It's quite unfortunate that they are driving people away like that. Oh well.. poo poo on them. I also agree with you about not wanting to get rid of your dreads. I can't ever imagine cutting them off to get a job. I don't think that a drastic sacrafice like that is necessary.

As for the aloe. Well this may sound very gross... but I've heard of someone just ripping a leaf off and peeling the skin off and then sticking it in a sock and squeezing the juice out. That is an option. hehe jus make sure the sock is clean that's all... hahaha. All you need is the juice from the plant, not the chunks of gel.
I like to mix mine with a little lemon juice and lots of water, but don't use lemon juice if it irritates your scalp.
I always use it in the summer to keep my dreadlocks from become dry and brittle. Just wash your hair and at the end of your shower just pour the mixture over your dreads just make sure you get it everywhere. Aloe sometimes smells a little rank, so you can use essential oil with it as well. Tea tree is good... 

For the tying method... just tie it as close to your roots as you'd like. I usually tie it pretty close to my scalp to make sure I get all of that really fine fuzz and new hair growth.

Here is the hairpolice website:
http://www.hairpolice.com/s_dreadmaitenance.shtml

You can see what maintenance using the string looks like after it is done.

Anyway! Have fun and good luck!!!! Your dreadlocks look awesome regardless of what you do to them...
I also wish you the best of luck in your job hunt!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 16, 2006 03:32:21 PM
This the the website I was struggling to find!!! LedHead (she's a member here) gave me this website and this is how I found out about the string thing. Then I found out that their staff or something is trained by hair police... that's it! haha. Anyway there are some excellent before and after pictures. I wish I would of had a before and after picture of my locks before I started doing my own maintenance. wowza!

http://www.knotjustdreads.com/hair/view.php?gallery_id=5


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 17, 2006 05:41:46 AM
mitsie99, bit off topic but what the hell
your piercings.. wouldn't they be an issue even more than dreads? I've gotten rejected for jobs because I had/have various facial piercings.. or is the dread thing bigger than that? because that would just piss me off! :)
to be very honest I think if you tied your hair back as it is it would somewhat look like normal hair (the loose hairs cover up the dreaded part, I think!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 17, 2006 06:15:35 AM
I wish I would of had a before and after picture of my locks before I started doing my own maintenance. wowza!

I found some of my old dreads... and someone fixing my hair.. because I'm Lazy! they were in a state :s

before:



during:





hate to say I was wrong about an after picture.. I always wear hats it seems, but for the fun of it:

go look at the post on a way earlier page :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 17, 2006 12:17:53 PM
Hey fckadog,
The piercings aren't really an issue because I take them out anytime I bring in a resume or go to an interview (thanks for bringing it up though  :)). The dreads however aren't so easier to cover up. Today I dropped a resume off and they were really great; they didn't seem to even notice my hair, and talked to me for a while about my qualifications...hopefully I'm worrying about nothing!
Do you have any new pics of your dreads Fckadog? I'd love to see how they're coming along with the dread perm!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 17, 2006 01:45:38 PM
I hope you get the job!
man, i cant take out most of my piercings because they close so quickly and i stretched my ears quite a bit and people notice.. and then I get to scare them by sticking my finger through :P

and just because it's getting to me: no more fckadog  ;), Sam is fine.. I should choose screen names more carefully in the future!
And I'll post some pics tomorrow, but I'll be quick and just say that there is one good and one bad thing about dread perm
good is that they seem to be setting a bit quicker at the roots (this could also be because its my 'natural' hair at the roots and when i used the backcomb method it was bleached from the roots down)
bad is that they're still a bit curley and kinky.. I'm not that keen on it because it's not my thang, it's most likely doing it because the ends were bleached and they got fried by the perm..
I miss my old ones :( plus they were longer.. I should have saved them!!! >:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 17, 2006 04:32:59 PM
Thanks Ninja, those websites were helpful. I love looking at people's dreads and there were tons of pictures on them. Some of the befores and afters on the second site were crazy. What a difference!

I spent some time last night and this evening doing some dread maintenance and it's worked out quite well. I used a darning needle for some dreads, dreadballed others, and crocheted a bunch more. The ones I've worked on look much better. Yay! Once I find thread in my haircolor I'm going to try tying some of the roots too. I still haven't decided how to get the back of my head done. My mom would probably help though.

And Sam, I kind of liked the curliness of the pics you posted just after you got the dread perm. I thought it was cute  :) but I suppose all that matters is that you like it. That goes away after a while anyway doesn't it?
One more thing, is it you that's in Holland? Now that I've finished my degree, my boyfriend and I are moving to England to work and travel around Europe for at least a year (that's partly why I need a job so bad!). Amsterdam is one of the places we're really excited to spend some time in. Do you like it there?



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 17, 2006 05:12:44 PM
Ooh England... London by any chance? I love it there.. mm camden market

Yes holland it is for me..
Amsterdam is cool to be as for shopping (they have some odd shops that they don't have anywhere near me) and some going out depending on the scene you're in (I think Amsterdam was/is more dance/trance scene.. don't know but they have some good bands playing in the melkweg from rock to pop idea), but it isn't as wonderfull if you don't do loads of pot.. or like loads of hookers, yes thats a legal job here! but seriously, you sit in the tram from central station to wherever and every 10 houses there is a coffee shop. I'm not a weed person since i got massively sick due to eating it (yes bad idea..) so it's not my thing, but if you are then you have a great time there
personally, if you're here for dutch culture, and i mean houses and clogs by that, then you're better off in The Hague, Leiden, Drente or places like that... AND THEY'RE CHEAPER!!!
If you want you could just tell me what you are here for and I could tell ya where to go.

And as for curliness.. It's not there when wet, or in the front.. its more in the back where I can hardly reach and don't do as much with.. As for it being cute, maybe, but remember they were rock hard curlies that made a crunchy sound when u squished 'em, now how cute is that?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 17, 2006 06:21:22 PM
I also happen to like the curliness... it's different.  ;) I guess I would feel the same way you do after a while though... I'd just want them to straighten out. How long does it take the curlies to go away? Regardless your dreads are beautiful anyway...
On the knottyboy site (in the dread styles place) some girl says she used a curling iron on her dreads for her semi formal to make them curly.

mitsie99 :
No problem.
I'm glad things seem to be working out. I do want you to know that I think your dreads are beautiful the way they were and I hope you don't get the impression that I'm pushing maintenance on people... okee dokee? Maintenance just helps keep things a little neater and less freaky for those who can't seem to appreciate the natural beauty of dreadlocks. Know what I mean? I'm sure you do... what am I thinking... haha. I just don't want people to think I'm some maintenance freak who doesn't have any fuzz, bumps, or loops like every normal dreaded person. I get them too... my head is a little fuzzy at the moment actually... seeing as I haven't touched my locks since xmas time.

Also I wanted to say that if you want to keep the firzzies at bay, sleep with either a nylon stocking on your head or make/buy yourself an african head wrap to wear while you sleep. I used to do this and it really did reduce the amount of frizz I had.... I'm too lazy nowadays... haha.. plus my locks are maturing so they are keeping to themselves. I've been getting TONS of congoes though. I have to rip them appart every couple days.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on April 18, 2006 06:58:35 AM
Is there a way to prevent congo's from forming, or is it just an issue of keeping up with maintenance? (The Wallaby gets dredded in 32 days!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 18, 2006 02:17:45 PM
Hey wallaby, congrats on deciding to get dreads...hope you post pics when you get them done! You shouldn't have to worry about congos for the first couple months. When you do get them (assuming you don't want them; some people love em), you can just rip them apart. And yes, it's a little painful  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 18, 2006 02:23:28 PM
mm you can get kinda congos in the beginning depending on how much you do with your dreads..

I was going to post pictures but my head is swollen (wisdom tooth removed) and I seem to have loose hairs that are about an inch long.. now I'm pointing fingers here, my bf must have sorta 'cut' my hair with the seam ripper when he removed threads  >:(
now who has any idea on how to fix this? All I can come up with is wait untill its long enuff to thread back into the dread.. Sad..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 19, 2006 05:01:46 PM
Oooh crappy... hmm can't trust them boyfriends... ahhaha. I've had a few incidents that were done by the hands of others... Like the time my mom cut one of my dreads off by accident when she was trying to cut a string I had wrapped that dread with (you know those colourful wraps with embroidery floss?). I freaked out but eventually got over it. Haha.. oh well it grew back. You can't even tell that it's shorter than all the other ones now. Hahaha. 

Ummm... well... why don't you just try re-wrapping the root that this loose hair belongs to? Or you can just wait till it gets longer like you said.

On the note of congoes:
Well in my experience they happen much more frequently when you don't wear something on your head when you sleep... Also when my roots are wrapped I don't get congoes. But congoes aren't that bad... you just rip them appart. Don't ever cut congoes appart because this will likely create tons of loose hair. I find congoes to be a good sign as to the fact that my hair is only doing what I ultimately want it to do: knot up.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 19, 2006 05:44:40 PM
story time...

i work at a golf course and this morning a kid was golfing that had dreads... i wanted to ask him about him, but i thought that would be too weird. in my tiny town, someone having dreads is a big deal, but i dont know where he was from. i want dreads so bad...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on April 20, 2006 01:40:21 AM
hehe! I can't imagine anyone with dreads being allowed anywhere near the hallowed turf of the golf courses round where I live. Good on him  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on April 20, 2006 03:02:14 PM
Have you guys ever seen dreads where just the hair that would go in a ponytail is dreaded? So that the top of your head is still smooth? Or would that not really work....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 20, 2006 04:03:43 PM
I'm not exactly sure how that would work. I've seen it before... but I really don't get it. Maybe you just put your hair in a ponytail and then backcomb the ponytail...

Wouldn't you kind of get sick of having your hair in a ponytail all the time though?  ???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 21, 2006 01:47:11 AM
awh you guys are cute :) and his dreads look great, ashame he took them off!
And there is no reason your hair can't have dreads, I've got ultra thin hair and i had/have them and naked ninja had the same kind of story (if my memory has not failed me).

and jezebel7383, I've seen that a lot here in holland, its sort of a style thing some people have. they get dreads, and by dreads theyre usually max. 10 dreads for some reason, and then grow them out, so no touching up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 21, 2006 06:35:40 AM
No Sam you're right... same story on this end. I was pretty afraid of getting dreads because of this... but it is all rumours... silky stick straight hair can be dreaded! Oh yes, seeing as we are on a first name thing right now... mine is Rosey. Feel free to call me that... I'm down with it. Hahahha...

Also how do you let your dreads grow out? I've heard this expression before, but my new growth automatically dreads itself... even if I don't wrap my roots or do anything at all. Maybe it has something to do with how tightly you backcomb the dreads (as in how close they are backcombed to your scalp initially)? Ah who knows... I don't want them to grow out anyway. I swear there will always be something new to learn about dreadlocks... always.

maitai113 :
Cute! You two make a cute couple. His dreads looked great and he looks just as great witout them!
Your hair seems to be the same texture mine was before I knotted up. It's totally possible. I honestly don't think that there is a hair type that will not knot-up. Any hair that is longer than 3 inches has the potential to knot-up and become dreadlocks.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 21, 2006 08:47:29 AM
well I guess by doing the same as you do when you color your hair, just plain old growing
and neglect! getting dreads and not doing anything with them at all, ever.
I guess not all people have new growth that dreads itself, but it could also be that they dont wash it at all or use the wrong products so their hair is too greasy/slippery to dread


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 21, 2006 09:57:19 AM
Duh.. haha I guess if you would just intergrate conditionner back into your routine that would loosen the new growth quite a bit. haha.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 21, 2006 03:14:06 PM
maitai- he is HOT!!! with and without dreads. mmmmmhmmmm you lucky girl.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on April 21, 2006 04:05:58 PM
I second that. ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: shannon1981 on April 22, 2006 03:34:29 AM
I haven't posted on here yet, but I've have looking and learning from all of you.  I got my dreads about a month and a half ago and I'm really excited to post my pics.  My sister and sister-in-law put them in for me (thanks, Jezebel!!!).  I have really thick hair and ended up with over a hundred dreads.  I'm loving the way they look and the wonderful personality they all have.  My husband calls me a dirty hippy a lot and isn't quite sure if he likes them, but he'll get used to them (cause I'm not getting rid of them!).  Here's some during pics:







And here's them now about 1 1/2 months old:





I've got the tips banded with rubber bands, but I'm going to try to get those switched over to thread soon.  I would love to be part of a swap if someone would like to organize one, new accessories are always nice.

Shannon


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 22, 2006 08:37:13 AM
Shannon they look great!!!
Over 100 wowza!!! That's a pretty decent dread count if you ask me. They are going to look just great (they arlready do!).
Yeah rubber bands are evil... trust me. I did the rubber band thing when I first got my dreads and one of them actually fused itself to my dread (but no worries I took it out). But for now they will do just fine.  :D
Anyway I hope you enjoy and take in everything that your new hair will forcefully teach you.. hehe... and I wish you much luck on your journey into the world of knottyness.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on April 22, 2006 10:32:54 AM
My husband calls me a dirty hippy a lot

hehe! mine says I have stinky hair. I know he's lying. And he seems to take great pleasure in fiddling with them  ;D

I second that. ;D

me too. Lucky girl.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on April 22, 2006 10:39:05 AM
It's about time you got those bad boys (girls?) on here. ;) Seeing them on the internet is putting me in even more dire need for dreads...Someday... :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 23, 2006 09:56:38 AM
over 100! wow! lookin' good too!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 23, 2006 10:02:48 AM
Wow they look nice, lucky girl having over a hundred!
And Rosey, rubber bands are the devil! I had the black ones once (the clear colored ones didn't seem as evil tho) and it sorta melted into my dread, it was like gooey chewing gum stuck on!
Perhaps wax and wetness cause it, or maybe not, I don't know, I just hate 'em!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 23, 2006 11:26:52 AM
maitai113 :
You donate your hair... that is so cool. I never would of thought of that.

Wow they look nice, lucky girl having over a hundred!
And Rosey, rubber bands are the devil! I had the black ones once (the clear colored ones didn't seem as evil tho) and it sorta melted into my dread, it was like gooey chewing gum stuck on!
Perhaps wax and wetness cause it, or maybe not, I don't know, I just hate 'em!


Yeah that is exactly what happened to me! But I had the clear ones... so I'm guessing any kind of rubber band elastic is bad news. After that I ditched elastics and discovered thread.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: shannon1981 on April 23, 2006 06:00:53 PM
Thanks for the nice comments.  I'm totally in love with them, and good news I just heard from Jezebel and we'll be putting hers in this week, yay!!!  I need to learn the crochet technique really bad.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 24, 2006 04:42:14 PM
And Rosey, rubber bands are the devil! I had the black ones once (the clear colored ones didn't seem as evil tho) and it sorta melted into my dread, it was like gooey chewing gum stuck on!
Perhaps wax and wetness cause it, or maybe not, I don't know, I just hate 'em!


O_O thats what happened to me! it looked like smushed bugs on the end of my dreads. it was sick.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on April 25, 2006 09:57:56 AM
i just thought i'd post some pics of how it looks when you don't do any maintainance. FYI- I post on Knottylocks but I am definitely not anti-maintainance or anything, I'm not high and mighty about dreads- they're just fun!! I just don't need to worry about jobs because I'm only 16.  :)






I have a bunch of loose hair but I guess it has never really bothered me, oh well. Anyway, everyone else's dreads look awesome!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 25, 2006 03:30:00 PM
piratasucia- they're really pretty!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 25, 2006 03:37:08 PM
piratasucia, how long have you had your dreads? there really good-looking.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on April 25, 2006 06:14:55 PM
 :) thanks guys! I've had them for almost 2 years... it really doesn't feel that long though!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 26, 2006 11:57:46 AM
They look great! I definately know that not everyone on knottylocks is like that, but unfortunately lots of them are.
I have no favoritism when it comes to dreads... I love them all!  :D
 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on April 26, 2006 04:47:53 PM
I'm going to try to get some pictures of my dreads on the internet soon, so that i can join in all the dreadlock lovin'.  i've got 15 of them, in a mohawk.  i've had them for about six months and am in love.  i do pretty minimal maintenance, aside from washing them every couple of days with a good shampoo - tightens 'em up enough for me.  I just cut the hairs that run between 'em, too - they just rip in half anyway if i try to pull them out so there doesn't seem much point to trying.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on April 26, 2006 05:05:26 PM
rachelrya- I love going to your site and seeing all the pretty hats you make. Some day one will be mine!! Though it'll be awhile because...I finally got my dreads!!! ;D ;D I'm so excited to have them. My SIL (shannon1981 on here) and her sister did them for me. Once they've calmed down a bit I'll get some pictures on here. *runs off to buy wax*


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 26, 2006 08:09:52 PM
I just cut the hairs that run between 'em, too - they just rip in half anyway if i try to pull them out so there doesn't seem much point to trying.

I'm not sure if that is a good idea... I'd just leave them. Think of it... those loose hairs came from either your dreads or new growth and the more you get rid of, the skinnier your roots will become which I'm guessing can eventually lead to breakage. I may be wrong though...   Also when you cut or rip those loose hairs out they will eventually come back and they'll look weirder than if you just left them because they will be short and spikey. Yeah... you should just leave them. If they really bother you and you don't feel like wrapping try using beads at your roots and stick all the loose hairs under the bead. But hey, if this is working just fine for you, by all means stick with it!  ;) I've never cut loose hairs before... so I don't really know. I'm just assuming...

Anyway I can't wait to see the pictures!! woohoo dreadhawk!!! I've seen a few on knottylocks and they looked great!  :D


jezebel7383:
Awesome!!! Don't fear the psychobobness that we all get in the beginning... I remember those days all too well. I was kind of freaked seeing as I didn't know anything about locks at the time. I was also kind of depressed thinking that they would be that way forever... haha I remember feeling regret. But then they calmed down and I realized that it was a normal thing after backcombing. Can't wait to see em'!!!   


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on April 27, 2006 08:35:06 AM
aww, thanks jezebel.  i'm working on some ways to make the hats faster, too - which means cheaper!  I'd wait six months if i were you, to see what size your head will be with all that hair on there...

naked ninja - leave them?  but then my dreads will all fuse into one massive dread!  i'm trying to cut them as far from the root of the hair as possible, so that there's more hair left for me to encourage to grow into the proper dread, instead of the one way over there.  I worry about doing something around the roots because, when i tie wool around them (at various points i've tied in yarn and fake dreads that i made before i took teh plunge) what it does the most is ensure that the hair that grows in is not dreading up.  my hair doesn't seem to frizzy now - if it starts to get it, or the roots start to seem like they're thinning, i'll reconsider.  i just don't see any other way to do it right now.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 27, 2006 12:30:52 PM
well whenever i aloe (wich is not often) i have to cut or rip my dreads apart at the begining of them, like the roots but not really the roots...you guys know what i mean-i hope. because if i dont im afraid i would end up with a hat O_O


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 27, 2006 07:07:47 PM
rachelyra :
Oh you're talking about congoes? Like when your dreads kind of intermingle with other dreads? If that's what you're talking about scissors should be a last resort because it just creates more loose hairs. Just rip them appart. It hurts a little, but it's better to do it that way.

I get congoes all the time... I have to rip them appart quite often.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on April 28, 2006 12:30:11 AM
i think it's a good sign really  - i feel like my hair has finally gotten the hint and is trying to stay in the dreads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 28, 2006 09:56:19 AM
Yeah congoes are definately a good sign!   :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on April 29, 2006 06:43:08 PM
When you guys got your dreads did you rubber band the ends? I do, and was wondering if I should wait until my wax gets here to take them off. Will they undread before then? So much to learn... :D
Today I was treated to the opinion of everyone in JoAnns about my hair. The manager there is a friend of mine, and when she saw me she loudly exclaimed how excited she was that I finally did my hair. EVERYONE in the store, I kid you not, came over to the cutting counter to see 'the hair'. Needless to say some people liked it, and even though the others didn't say anything you could tell what they thought. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on April 30, 2006 08:03:24 AM
I used rubbers for about the 1st month combined with wax..
but as it has been said before hey eventually go bad and can get sticky on your hair (and you don't want that)
if you do use them tru to keep an eye on 'em to see that they're still 'normal'
but you could also use string and tie the ends (top and bottom or only top or only bottom)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on April 30, 2006 02:59:32 PM
Well after 4 years of constant "I love dread but I love my hair more bla bla sort of excuses on Thursday I woke up w/ the feeling I want dread. It didn't go since then so today I knotted up one lock.
After that I was still really happy but a friend of mine took away mine enthusiasm. is it normal? Or should I wait more in order to not to regret it? Any suggestion for a play it safe low self confidence girl?
Does it look ok? How can I help to look better? (I backcombed it. )
I'm really confused.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on April 30, 2006 05:49:13 PM
I think it looks great for a newly backcombed dread!!! I'm not quite sure what your friend told you to make you feel that way... whatever they said, they don't seem to know what they are talking about. It looks awesome!

Virir you need to remember that dreadlocks take time to mature... for the first little while it's like a 24/7 bad hair day because dreadlocks are totally different than what most people are used to seeing in the mirror first thing in the morning. Once the shock of having dreadlocks goes away, people usually seem happy with them. Once you have them for a few months you really let them grow on you and I know that I can't imagine not having my dreadlocks. Another thing to remember is that they only get better with age. They won't look anything like 4 or 5 year old dreadlocks as soon as you're done backcombing them... have a little patience and enjoy them for what they are at the moment and what they will be in the future. If you feel really uncomfortable with the way your new dread looks, maybe it isn't for you. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks absolutely fantastic and I think you should go ahead and do your whole head, but if you feel uncomfortable, don't do it. Then again, if you want to do something totally different and step out of your safe spot, it may prove to be a good experience for you. I know that it was a good experience for me!

The only advice I can give you is to not set your expectations high. Don't try to think about what your dreadlocks will look like in the future, because likely they won't look anything like what you envisioned them to be. Even with maintenance, dreadlocks are almost totally independent from you. They ultimately do what they want to do. Every set of dreadlocks looks different... remember that and you'll be fine.

As for what you can do to make it look better... NOTHING! They are too new to do maintenance and I think that your little dread looks fine the way it is.  :D

I wish you luck, and keep smiling! Hopefully you'll finish the job!   


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on April 30, 2006 07:34:44 PM
I agree, that one dread looks really good - nice job, it looks pretty tight! Maybe skimming through this thread (I know it's long, that's why I say *skimming*  ;)) and reading about some of our dread journeys, both the emotional aspects and the physical changes in the dreads themselves, would help you decide if dreads are right for you.

PS-It's too bad your friend wasn't more supportive, try not to let it get you down or make your decision for you. There will always be people like that, especially if you're into trying different things, e.g. dreads. The thing is, they have their own motives and their advice (such as 'You'd look really dumb with dreads' etc.) may not be in your best interests, but more about them...sorry...I was a psych major, I can't control my analytical tendencies...hehe


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 01, 2006 04:23:27 AM
thx for your kind answers. Well i knew it wouldn't look perfect, but I was worried cuz my friend told me about great pain while she got her, and i din't feel anything, and i thought its maybe not tight enough even for a baby dread.
Today I woke up with a great attitude, I was so happy doing that one yesterday. I'll consult w/ a capoeira mate to do it (she has done several dreads so far.) and maybe wait a week in order to be able to change my mind.
My friend wasn't supportive cuz she has a friend who recently had to get rid of her dreads and she said her fiends almost went bald cuz hair almost stoped growing. I'm not really sure if it's possible. I've never heard anything similar.
I'll post pics if I have my dread.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 01, 2006 09:45:24 AM
Hmm... I've never heard of people going bald because of dreads... I've also never heard about hair that stopped growing because of dreads. Maybe these bald spots occured when she removed her dreads. I'm guessing she cut and then combed the rest out... and just maybe many hairs were pulled out in the process. That is entirely possible... Even so, hair grows back!!!

As far as pain goes... backcombing can get a little painful if your getting real close to the scalp. I didn't find it painful till the last couple hours, but it wasn't untolerable. I'd do it over again if I ever had to. It wasn't that bad.

Also, that dread looks pretty tight to me. You did a great job.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 01, 2006 11:29:53 AM
Viri- what I can see from your picture looks cute; you should go for it if you want to. I really like your necklace, btw. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 02, 2006 06:20:55 PM
I got to find out what you guys meant about the rubber bands fusing to your hair. I was try to tidy up a couple, and found that they were basically glued to the dread. I figured I better get them all out before things got really bad, and this is the mess after. There's still a few in the back that I can't get so I'm going to enlist a little help. Hopefully the dreads will stay ok until the wax gets here. I found some on knottyboy that's tinted and figured I'd try it. Has anyone else?
https://www.craftster.org/pictures/data/500/19148iop.JPG


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 03, 2006 06:11:39 AM
Shitty...

KnottyBoy sells 2 waxes. One for light colored hair and one for dark. The only difference is hazelnut oil.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 07, 2006 04:20:45 PM
wow, that thread is long! I couldn't read through it all. I have just a question:
Did one of you dye her hair with henna while having dreads? I would like to go all natural.

I had dreads for 9 months, but they were awful cause of the bleaching, hairdye, too much wax, badly started by so-called friends and crap.
I will go back to dread now

Here a pix of how it was (3rd or 4th month):



Let me know about the henna please!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 08, 2006 03:44:11 AM
I don't expect henna to be much different from coloring your hair, maybe not as bad for it I guess.
Thing is, if henna is going to act like a massive conditioner on your hair it wouldn't be a great idea to do in the beginning, but when your dreads are a bit older they could take it.
But I've never used henna on my hair, so I'm not any type of expert on that


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on May 08, 2006 09:29:06 AM
There are a few topics on the site about henna, and the site http://www.hennaforhair.com/ (http://www.hennaforhair.com/) is often recommended.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 08, 2006 10:23:33 AM
Yeah I know nothing about henna... All I know is that dying my dreads was the stupidest thing I've ever done. Not because it caused any harm or anything... just because I hate dying my hair and now I'm trying to get back to my natural color...

Hyena:
I think your dreads look awesome. Very exotic looking. Just remember that they are still quite young and that whatever wrong you have done in the past shouldn't affect the new growth that dreads itself. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 08, 2006 11:29:05 AM
Naked_Ninja Those were my old dreads I got rid off 1 years ago cos they were not healthy anymore. Also I got a huge mono and have been sick for 3 months and my hair was kind of dead.
Now it is healthy and I have a lot more knowledge about how to grow beautiful and healthy dreads (thank to you all girls!! ;D)


My hairdresser told me about natural and vegan hair dye. I just hate my natural color, it is a dirty blond but kind of pale, it really looks like ash. (Hairdressers drool when they see it, I never understood why!!)
So I would like something like a deep aupburn with red accent. 
But I think Fckadog  is right, henna will act like a conditionner, not good for dreadies!

Anyhow do you think I can start dreadies on 5 inches lenght hair?
 And when I will start I will keep you posting with the evolution! It is so fun! :D

Thank you for your help and the link!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 08, 2006 11:52:21 AM
Of course you can start dreads in 5 inches of hair! My bf's hair was only 4 to 5 inches in lenght when I knotted him up.

You could always henna your hair before you dread and then start using a non residue shampoo. That should be fine!  :D Can't wait to see your new locks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 08, 2006 12:03:08 PM
that's not a bad idea, coloring them before hand and then dreading them and after a few months you can touch up, perhaps even sooner.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 09, 2006 06:04:12 AM
I've finally convinced myself to get the rest of my hair dreaded as my single lock is getting better and better (only in  2 weeks  ;D). There's no better time to experiment than now when I'm young. Am I right?
But picking the shampoo is a  problem. I know it's important to pick the right one, but I'm afraid it'd cost a fortune to get a soap bar to Hungary. So I'm thinking of try something what I can buy here. I've read on some sites that Neutrogena is not the best option. (Also I guess we have here t-gel only). What about clinique? Dose anyone have experience with Lush? Or Clarins? 
What ingredient should I avoid? Could you tell me what does knotty boy shampoo exactly contain to be able to compare it with the other products? THX again  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 09, 2006 06:51:10 AM
I myself use the "Neutrogena Anti-Residue shampoo"... and all seems well. Most people aren't pro neutrogena because they do animal testing. I don't want to start a huge debate in this thread about animal testing... I'm just throwing this out in the open. Unfortunately this shampoo is readily available to me for only 9.99$ for a huge bottle. Now do I really want to use my credit card for a 5$ soap bar? No... no I don't. I've also used Melaleuca's Naturals shampoo which is great, but kind of costly.

All I can tell you is that finding a non-residue shampoo is VERY hard. Most of your options are online. As far as what's good and what's not... well there are many debates over that. Some say to avoid Sodium Laurel (and Laureth) Sulfate. Some say to stay away from artificial fragrance, phosphates, conditionners, moisturizers.... and the list goes on and on and on and on. The worst part is that most people's first instinct is to go to either a salon or a beauty supply store and ask them for some assistance... Well I've tried that and I seem to know more than they do. I'm not exactly sure that Clinique or Lush would cary anything that would be good to use on dreads...

My suggestion to you is to either order online or go to a natural foods store. Also if you know any dreaded people or your friends do... Ask them what they were using. Also, *most but not all* tea tree oil shampoos are excellent for dreads.

Here are your online options (that I know of anyway):
www.knottyboy.com

www.dreadheadhq.com

http://www.drbronner.com/index.html (I've heard awesome things about their peppermint and tea tree oil soap)

www.melaleuca.com (Naturals Melaleuca Oil Shampoo - I've used it and I like it, kind of costly though but they are international)

http://www.phunkybrewster.com/Herbals.html (scroll down to the dready soap bar - phunky is a really nice lady and I'm sure she would bend a little for you)

Hope this helped you a little.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 09, 2006 01:19:43 PM
Well I don't think we have anything else beside T gel (I've heat that for sy w/ dread caused dandruff). What we have is regular home soap (you know the one made out of old oil). Yep I've checked all Lush shampoo contains Sodium Laurel Sulfate.
I don't want to order online (mainly cuz I can't: I  have a bank card not credit card). My dread friends use anti dandruff shampoo (Head &Shoulders) which contains many bad stuff i would never put it on my hair. Anyway I would not say my actual  elselv shampoo would be a lot better. Tee tree shampoo? Usually contains eucalyptus oil or mint which i really really hate. but if it's the only option I try not to vomit while washing my hair :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 09, 2006 02:18:47 PM
Ew Head and Shoulders... that stuff should never touch dreadlocks ever! I'm glad you agree!

Tea tree oil actually has many great benefits for those of us with locks. For one it is a natural antiseptic which helps fight dandruff, the itches, irritation, and even helps heal cuts, scrapes, bug bites.... Tea tree oil is also a natural bug and lice repellent which is awesome. Also tea tree oil is a naturall conditionner that kind of acts like aloe and helps to keep your locks soft and not brittle... But if you don't like tea tree oil there are other great shampoos out there. Rosemary is great for locks too.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 12, 2006 07:13:18 AM
Alright folks I have some questions for you...

I've just registered for a booth at the up and coming Northern Lights Festival Boreal (art and music festival in my hometown that attracts approximately 15000 people). I'm going to be selling my handbags and a few other things but I was planning on offering to do dreadlocks and maintenance as well as book appointments for after the festival at my home. Now comes the question.. I've done some reasearch and I've found out that the general price for doing dreadlocks is between $250 and $450 (Canadian of course) and that maintenance runs anywhere from $30/h to $75/h. So here is what I was planning on charging:

Dreadlocks:
shorter to medium lenght hair - $200
long hair to very long hair - $300

Dreadlock maintenance:
$35 an hour for up to 5 hours. If it takes longer than 5 hours it's free.

Individual dreads:
$20

Dread wraps:
$15

With maintenance and dreadlocks they also get 1 free wax job, 1 dread bead, loads of information of care and maintenace, and if they don't want wax I'll offer them 2 dread beads.

What do you all think? Most of you know the effort involved in backcombing dreads so I figure you'd all be the best people to ask.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 12, 2006 08:04:23 AM
The prices are great! Most people don't get dreads because of the high price..
if you have a portfolio of dreads you've done, bring that along, parents or people who think they might be messy can have a change of heart by looking at a nicely done set of dreads

I've got a suggestion:
Write down (and copy many times) all the information and maintenance rituals to give with people you help, like they do at the tattoo/piercing shops. It's handy (cause people are just prone to forgetting), it makes you seem like you know stuff (we know you do!) and then you can post it here and we could print it out too :P (saving myself time.. :))
People like getting 'extra' stuff, so that plus the bead and wax job would sound just perfect to me!
Man, I hope you have people to help you, or a lot of energy! Good luck!

hey, do make pictures! before and after things, u know? :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on May 12, 2006 08:29:22 AM
Not to put a damper on things...
Would the process of doing dreadlocks for other people involve you washing their hair with a non-residue shampoo? If not, would they have to do it themselves beforehand? And afterwards, it would be really cool if there was some way you could give a small bottle of shampoo to them, like a sample. I don't know how you'd go about getting a hold of something like that. The idea of you doing this is fantastic,but would it be just sort of a one-time deal where you only advertise at this festival, or do you think it would become a small business of sorts? If it becomes a business, you may want to look into stocking some dread-related items to sell to customers (like the shampoo). And one other thing... What is a dread wrap?

(post script: I get my dreads in 8 days)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 12, 2006 08:59:50 AM
While we're on the subject of shampoo, could the residue be what's making me have all these flakes? Or is it a normal part of the process? Before I would get a little bit if I didn't wash my hair for a long time. Maybe I'm just noticing it more now...Don't really want to do my part in spreading the 'dreads are dirty' mindset. ;)

Ninja- I wish I could go see you at work in the festival. Your prices sound really good to me.  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 12, 2006 09:45:56 AM
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

Sam:
Yeah I was definately thinking of typing out an information sheet and if I do I will most definately post it here! And yes I will be getting some help... my mom is going to be my partner in crime. I fully realize that we may only be able to do 2 or 3 sets of dreads or a few maintenance appointments. The main reason I'm advertising dreadlocks is to try and get the word out that someone in town does cater to folks who want and have dreads. There is only one salon in town which does this and they don't offer maintenance because the stylist doesn't know anything about dreads... It would be a great way to make some extra cash.

the wallaby:
Wow thanks for bringing up the shampoo situation... I should have thought of that!!!! The festival is at the city's largest beach wich is loaded with change rooms and shower stalls, so I will just bring along some of my shampoo and fill little containers so that these folks can go and wash their hair. I'm not going to get into selling shampoo and whatnot... too much hassle and I may be stuck with stock that won't sell. Sudbury isn't a huge city (250,000 people)... If I were in Toronto then maybe I would consider this venue. I'm already working on starting my own part-time home-based business which will mainly deal with handbags, sewn goods (journals, guitar straps...), and artwork. The dreadlock thing is just going to be another service that I offer. I'm not planning on going into a full time business situation were I will have to worry about suppliers and whatnot. Maybe once I'm done school and have a career I'll consider this.

jezebel7383 :
I had dandruff flakey stuff for the first couple months. I think it's just that your scalp is getting used to this new routine. Don't forget that your scalp doesn't get the stimulation it used to with everyday washing and brushing. Try massaging your scalp every once in a while.
Also what kind of shampoo are you using? If it isn't a non-residue shampoo this could also be the cause of your problems.
But if this isn't the case just wait it out. You could try rinsing your scalp with rosemary water (boil a handfull of rosemary - not the powder form - in a pot on the stove till the water turns dark. Strain the rosemary out, let it cool, and either spritz or pour over your scalp). Rosemary helps the itchies and dandruff alike. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 12, 2006 09:48:25 AM
Forgot to mention.
Dread wrap:
It's just some embroidery thread in whichever color you like wrapped around a dread. You know, to decorate them! hehe.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 12, 2006 12:50:06 PM
I've been using Dr Bronners unscented baby shampoo. The ingredients are the same as the liquid shampoo on Knotty Boy it seems. But yesterday I tried the shampoo from DreadHead, so we'll see how it goes.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 12, 2006 01:22:27 PM
I've heard that dr. bronners is excelllent for dreadlocks. I haven't tried it personally but most of the folsk at knottylocks.tk use it. I'm feeling pretty confident that the problem your having is just cause your scalp isn't used to this new hair. Give it some time and things should clear up. Use the rosemary water and that should help some. If it persists you should get yourself some selsun blue shampoo and use it once a week till the problem clears up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 12, 2006 01:54:43 PM
wow 200 CAD it's a lot of money if I compare it to the prices we have here. I haven't asked for saloon but experienced  individuals do it for 10 000 -30000 HUF which is about 50 to 150 CAD. The good side of living in Hungary :D

But I still don't have much luck with the shampoo. I checked the baby products like Johnson & Johnson or Nivea. they look better: no sodium lurathe sulfat the detergent stuff is sg called  PEG-80 Sorbitan Laurate, but does contain some colorants, and parfume. Maybe I'll ask the pharmacy if the are about to do something similar without the fragrance and the colores. Any other idea?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 12, 2006 04:10:37 PM
Sorry can't help you on that one... The shampoo's I've listed are the only ones I know are safe for dreads. Just ask the pharmacist for a non-residue shampoo and he/she should be able to point you in the right direction.

$50 for a full set of dreads!!! Wowza... that's extremely cheap. Considering it took approximately 12 hours to complete backcombing my hair, I don't think I could ever charge only $50. I can't sell myself short. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on May 13, 2006 01:06:23 AM
I've been using New Hair from Lush for 5 months (as long as I've had dreads) and it's worked fine for me. My scalp seldom itches and my dreads seems to do fine. I've read quite a bit about Sodium Laureth Sulfate, both pro and con, and I don't think it would hurt my hair or scalp. My boyfriend has also used it and Soak & Float from Lush due to a bit more itching and it's working fine. I also think that the shampoo cake is easier to use than regular shampoo in a bottle. It gives your scalp such a nice massage and is easier to apply.  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 13, 2006 05:46:23 AM
Yes there is much debate over SLS... I myself use a shampoo that contains it, because I really couldn't find one that didn't. It hasn't done me any harm...

I do know that Knotty Boy's shampoos do not contain SLS. That's about the only one I know that doesn't contain it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 13, 2006 10:28:58 AM
NakedNinja- Will you share some pics of hair you did after the festival?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 15, 2006 02:38:53 PM
Naked_ninja you are right don't sell yourself short. I just wrote it for curiosity. First time in my life I worked on a corn field and i got about 1 Euro per hour. I worked my butt off for that money. So here  300 $ would be really expensive. And thx for your help anyway. I still keep searching for the right shampoo. I'll check some ahimsa product netxs.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 15, 2006 02:51:22 PM
I use something called Let's dread, supposed to be "specially formulated for today's dreadlocks hairstyles"
I used it both with backcombed and perm dreads and I'd say my backcombed dreads didn't change much, but permed ones seem to come undone because of it a bitty bit. And it DOES contain SLS btw. I'm just too lazy to get off my ass and find a different shampoo because this is the only type they sell in my area.


on a different note:
Dread swap, it should be getting time to have it bout a month from now? don'tcha all thinky?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 15, 2006 04:41:35 PM
Yes I think it would be lots of fun. So does anyone know exactly how to organize one of these swap things? I've never participated in a swap on craftster. I have participated in one on knottylocks.tk though.

jezebel7383 :
Yes I will post pictures. The festival isn't till July though. I will be advertising dreadlocks but I'm not sure how many people will want to get them done at a festival (considering the fact that most people go to festivals to enjoy themselves and not to sit in a chair for the better part of the day missing all the action). The biggest reason why I have gotten a table is to sell some of my handbags and other things, but I want to try and get the word out that I do dreadlocks so that I can possibly book appointments for dreadlocks and maintenance for after the festival at my home.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 16, 2006 03:47:49 AM
You newer know. I work for a festival as a summer job, and each year there are people doing the same service as you and pay a lot of money (like 500 Euros) to have their table so i guess there are people who wanna have dreads even on a festival.
Maybe you should put out some flyers about your service a few days before. And if still there's nobody start a friends maintenance live demo is always a good ad  ;) Good luck.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 16, 2006 07:36:44 AM
Thanks.  ;) I'm not worried... My main goal is to sell my handbags, the dreadlock thing is more just advertising that I offer those services so that people will know that yes infact there is a place in town that can cater to dreadlocks. I do expect to book some appointments and even get people curious about it. If I get to do any at the festival it would be great, but if I don't it really isn't my main concern. I will also be handing out my business card at the festival which will get the word out and people who are interested can call me. But by all means, if someone wants them done at the festival I will be more than willing to accommodate that as well.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 16, 2006 07:44:26 AM
I use this shampoo:

http://avalonorganics.com/

and massage it into my roots - it helps a lot.  before i had dreads i used their conditioner too.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 16, 2006 08:16:32 AM
They sell that stuff at my local Walmart (tucked away in the medicine ilse) and at a few of our local health food stores. I haven't tried it yet, but I've wanted to for some time. Nice to know someone has used it! Thanks for sharing!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on May 17, 2006 04:13:55 PM
I've noticed that a couple of my dreads (one in particular) is starting to dread back up toward the root. Basically, it folded itself in half almost and the tip is dreading up toward my root now. It looks crazy! The one next to it is doing it too, to a lesser extent. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not worried about it or anything, it just looks wild :) Also, I'm amazed at how much my hair is trying to congo all over the back of my head. Yay! Ripping them apart doesn't feel so great but it's exciting...it's like my hair finally realized that I actually want it to knot hehe.

Good idea Ninja. Hope you have some luck at the festival with your handbags and the dreads. It certainly can't hurt to put the word out that someone is available for creating/maintaining dreads.

PS- I did end up getting that job and my dreads have never been an issue with my boss, the owner or the customers. Well aside from at the interview when my boss mentioned that based on my appearance I must not be a conformist...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 17, 2006 04:24:38 PM
i am starting to get tired of the silky little curls on the ends of my dreadlocks.  they keep shrinking in width but lengthening as the rest of the dread tightens up and a few little soft white-girl hairs stick out at the bottom, totally oblivious.  what'll happen if i cut 'em off?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on May 17, 2006 04:27:59 PM
It depends on how old your dreads are. If they're still pretty new your dreads will probably unravel a bit and you'll just end up with shorter dreads that have silky curls on the end. Have you tried crocheting them?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 17, 2006 04:40:34 PM
they're about six months old,  i guess, and have gotten pretty firm.  that is, i can't imagine the hair above the silky part turning silky again...

i haven't tried the crochet hook trick, and have this wax that i never use either.  early on i felted some wool in to help them stay together - this worked better in rings like a woolen bead then laid longways parallel to the dread.  i did a little needle felting along them to help them out, but stopped because i felt like it might contribute to breaking hairs.  i do very little maintenance on them - anytime they seem loose to me i wash my hair, massage at the roots a lot, and they tighten right up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on May 17, 2006 05:07:14 PM
mm i wouldnt cut them off... sometimes it will just unravel and happen all over again.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 17, 2006 06:08:40 PM
My ends are coming undone a little bit, and are turning into a flat shape instead of round. Is this just a part of the process or do I need to do something to encourage roundness?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 17, 2006 06:09:39 PM
mm i wouldnt cut them off... sometimes it will just unravel and happen all over again.

That's what I'm thinking.
I do remember a girl on knottylocks that cut her tips off, but it wasn't till her dreads were approx 2 years old. I'm not sure if they unraveled again.  

mitsie99:
Thank you!  ;)
Also, not being a conformist can be a good quality to have in the workplace. It just shows that you lead rather than follow right?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 18, 2006 01:21:36 AM
mm i wouldnt cut them off... sometimes it will just unravel and happen all over again.

That's what I'm thinking.
I do remember a girl on knottylocks that cut her tips off, but it wasn't till her dreads were approx 2 years old. I'm not sure if they unraveled again.  

I have the same, you can TRIM it but cutting the whole thing off isn't a great idea, it makes them come a bit undone, but nothing major..

My ends are coming undone a little bit, and are turning into a flat shape instead of round. Is this just a part of the process or do I need to do something to encourage roundness?

I have the same here too :s roundness is gotten by palm roling, something I rarely do (helaas) and it also tightens the dread.. the thing I do is backcomb when clean and dry, palmroll some wax in and tie the end for about 2 weeks.. this usually stops it, but not every time.. Are the flat dreads the ones at the back of your head? Well mine are, but i guess thats because I wear them in a ponytail and sleep on them.. and after time they seem to stay flatty..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 18, 2006 01:58:14 AM
i cut off one, not totally off but trimmed it a lot, as a kind of a test case.  If it goes haywire I'll know not to do it!

I bleached some of them a little the other day and now i am having congoes like crazy!  Also, the ones in the front have shortened up so much that they don't fir behind my ears anymore.  It's like there's a person that lives on top of my head or something - totally a mind of its own.  i wonder if i get it easier because i've only got a handful of them, or worse because i can tell that they sort of keep each other under control, but since there;s nothing to the sides they go sideways sometimes then go all crazy.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 18, 2006 10:27:50 AM
They're flat sort of all over the place. Some of the more 'perfect' ones are where I sleep on them. It all seems just sort of random. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on May 18, 2006 09:41:05 PM
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies02.jpg
http://www.secondaryhighway.com/_randomimages/newyeardreadies04.jpg


I know this is extremely old, but I adore your dreads -- the colors are great, exactly something I'd want!

Thank you to nakedninja for tellin' me about this, I can't believe I missed this thread! I'm feeling more inspired daily to get mine back!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 19, 2006 10:39:43 AM
I need to take pix of my hair. But basically I dye it with a natural color red aupburn, and I start dreading. I haven't comb my hair in 2 weeks. I washed it with a natural shampoo (honey based) and didn't comb it after. Next step, I'll order the Dr Bronner tea tree liquid soap.
And I am doing 1 dread a day!
Like that, I can concentrate on that only dread at a time, they look really great so far.
YEAH!!!  ;D

Edited for that:




Dang! I would never have though I could show my face without makeup on...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on May 21, 2006 08:32:13 AM
Ok, after almost a year of waiting... I have dreadlocks [exclamation point] I didn't wait ten minutes after getting home from graduation to start putting them in. I gotta say, I feel really pirate-y with them, even though they're still brand new and really loose. They're really gonna help with starting up college for me, because they sort of represent the beginning of a more confident independent Sierra [I'm a shy person around strangers. It's quite an episode to try to get me to order my own food or buy a movie ticket.]
I'll get some before and after photos up this evening [exclamation point]

And on an unrelated note, my senior superlative was "most likely to make something beautiful out of nothing." Awwwwww.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on May 21, 2006 08:40:53 AM
lookin good hyena... love the color of your hair. dreadies are gonna look killer!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 21, 2006 10:13:06 AM
spirals420 Thank you!!! I think that time my dreads gonna be awesome! It really help I haven't comb my hair in 2 week, when I backcomb it, it knots immediately and stay! wOOt!!!I did another one at 1am! lol
Now I need to wash my hair cause they are up on my head and hubby told me I look like an indian!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 21, 2006 01:20:56 PM
Good to hear dreadies are borning. Mine will be in june I guess, cuz the guy who 'll do it for me is snowed in with work till the end of the month. (So do I: except in my case work means studying...)
Another good news, my shampoo problem is solved, cuz today I went for a  craft fair and there I found rosemary shampoo bar made of 100% natural oil & aloe vera and it was at a reasonable price: ~3$ / Euros a bar....  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 21, 2006 06:29:59 PM
this doesn't really have anything to do with anything but i have learned that i like using the bar shampoo way better than the normal, i use knottyboy, but i like the bar because it foams up better....kindof...like the liquid soaks in to much so i have to use like galons of shampoo but the bar is way funner..
i'll quit rambling now


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 21, 2006 08:26:00 PM
ehh milkweed you are not rambling! I was thinking about that as well as I am ready to order some shampoo for my dreadies (and those not born yet!). Liquid soap is not easy to rub in the dreads, that;s perfectly right. I think I'm gonna order a bar, should be easier to use on my knotty head!  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on May 23, 2006 03:33:58 PM
I found that with the knotty boy liquid shampoo too. There was no lather and my dreads didn't ever feel really clean. I'd use tons or shampoo twice, but that sorta sucked since the kb shampoo is so damn expensive. I'm using the Neutrogena Anti-Residue now and it's much better. I wish I could get some Dr. Bronner's without ordering online because I'm vegan and I'd feel much better about using that. If only I were rich...or capitalism were abolished...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 23, 2006 06:15:01 PM
oh wow, yeah for abolish capitalism!
Ok,  let's no get our anarchist sentiment mixed in dreads and shampoo!
While cleaning my bathroom closet, I found the Dread Head shampoo, you know what, I threw it away (wish I could find the comb though), because each time I used it, I thought it was dish soap!! Eurkkkk


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on May 24, 2006 03:42:24 AM
hmm.. I just had to take my exams on why capitalism is good and they always win over communism.. and now u guys want to change it?!? If I didn't pass the test I'd have to do it again next year and it won't be the same! So I say NO, we keep capitalism, we just need government funding for the dreadlock minorities! :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 24, 2006 07:25:11 AM
I found the Dread Head shampoo, you know what, I threw it away (wish I could find the comb though), because each time I used it, I thought it was dish soap!! Eurkkkk

That's hilarious! When I was using dreadhead products in the early beginning, I often wondered if in fact all it was was dishsoap. It smells like those cheap bubbles you buy for kids in those big bottles. 

As for knottyboy shampoos.. Never used them so I wouldn't know. I'm a cheap student so I buy Neutrogena. Plus I can get a giant bottle for only $9.99 which lasts me for like 6 months.


mitsie99:
I'm not sure that you know, but I did mention it earlier... Neutrogena does animal testing. In fact I almost started a war on knottylocks last year for mentioning what shampoo I used in a Shampoo thread. I just wanted to make sure you knew because that would be unfair not to tell you.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on May 24, 2006 03:06:36 PM
Thanks ninja, I know they test on animals, that's why I'd prefer to use Dr. Bronner's, no animal testing or ingredients. I just can't afford to pay for the shampoo plus shipping and handling  :(  It's impossible to be a perfect vegan but I do what I can. And just for the record, I'm not judgemental and I won't harass anyone for not being veg. Sorry you had a bad experience with the animal rights people on knottylocks, we're not all like that  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: shannon1981 on May 24, 2006 03:40:28 PM
I've been using Dr. Bronner's soap and it's really great, even started using it on my kids.  I'm lucky enough that I can find it locally and it's really not very expensive.  I've also been trying some glycerin bar soaps that I found in the natural section at the grocery store.  I really like the way they lather up and I can tell my hair is really clean when I use them.  If Dr. Bronners made a bar soap, then I'd be all set.  Now if only I could find the time to crochet in my ends...

Shannon


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 24, 2006 05:13:20 PM
Thanks ninja, I know they test on animals, that's why I'd prefer to use Dr. Bronner's, no animal testing or ingredients. I just can't afford to pay for the shampoo plus shipping and handling  :(  It's impossible to be a perfect vegan but I do what I can. And just for the record, I'm not judgemental and I won't harass anyone for not being veg. Sorry you had a bad experience with the animal rights people on knottylocks, we're not all like that  ;)

Thank you. I definately know that not all vegans are pushy people who only see it their way. It's awesome that you aren't like that. Thumbs up for you.  ;D Seriously. I totally have respect for the way you live your life and I am in no position to judge anyone for their lifestyle choices... Hot damn, I actually look up to people who can have the self-discipline to be vegan... I just would never be able to. I'll admit it... I am weak. I'M WEAK! I can't resist a cold glass of milk or a steak.  :D I also hear you on how it's impossible to be a "perfect vegan". Sooooo many things contain animal by-products and often it's near impossible to find another choice in certain places and sometimes the other choices are just tooo expensive. Like capsules for meds... I mean if you have tuberculosis and the meds come in capsule form and there is no other option, you can't let yourself die! You need to take the meds. That doesn't make you any less of a vegan, in my eyes anyway.  :D

shannon1981:
Whispy ends are cool anyway. Most of my ends are blunt, but because I swim so much many of them have come undone and honestly, I love it.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on May 24, 2006 08:12:47 PM
I had no clue that Neutrogena did that! >:( Now I need to find a new face wash that works...
Hey Shannon, we need to have a 'maintenance' day. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: evilninjac0w on May 24, 2006 08:42:41 PM
Hey :] I'm really looking forward to having some dreads of my own, however I'm waiting a few years because the parents are not quite on the bandwagon yet;; my hair is pretty short anyway, it's a lot longer than it used to be, hah. I read that a lot of you went through your "short hair" phase; mine was last year. it's a few inches past shoulder length with lots of layers and some bangs. I really love the whole idea of dreads, and think it'll suit me.

 ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on May 24, 2006 08:46:25 PM
I had no clue that Neutrogena did that! >:( Now I need to find a new face wash that works...
Hey Shannon, we need to have a 'maintenance' day. ;)


Donno if this has been mentioned, I don't think I saw it, but PETA has an entire book that is full of all the companies that test on animals, including hair & beauty products. I would highly recommend you grab a copy of it, just shoot them an email.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 25, 2006 07:01:38 AM
I have layered hair as well. They one layer is chin length other is shoulder length, and the longest is reaching the middle of my back.  I'm not worried about it. It means my dread will be layered as well, which is fun i guess. If it shrinks like my test dread I'll be able to put it back to my ears and if not i can still use had bands....
I gonna tell my parents it's a kinda braid and it's temporary (and it is, I'm not planning to be a dreadie granny ;) ). I'm more worried about my grand parents reaction, but I hope they won't stop loving me or they won't get a heart attack.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on May 25, 2006 01:43:56 PM
Oh dear, grandparents are people one needs to be wary of when one has new dreads. My grandmom told me to my face that she hated them. I don't care so much, as we never got along too well, but it is good to get affirming comments once in a while too.
I'm nearly a week into having dreads, but the smaller ones still come undone in the back, and they're very loose still. I was going for as natural dreads as possible, but now am seriously considering using wax. I don't suppose there is dread-friendly wax available in stores like target or walmart...?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on May 25, 2006 03:33:12 PM
Hehe... round here it's quite the opposite; all the local teenagers are obsessed with following trends and fitting in, whereas the old people are far more relaxed because most of them don't care about all that! ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on May 25, 2006 05:23:47 PM
Oh dear, grandparents are people one needs to be wary of when one has new dreads. My grandmom told me to my face that she hated them. I don't care so much, as we never got along too well, but it is good to get affirming comments once in a while too.
I'm nearly a week into having dreads, but the smaller ones still come undone in the back, and they're very loose still. I was going for as natural dreads as possible, but now am seriously considering using wax. I don't suppose there is dread-friendly wax available in stores like target or walmart...?

i doubt you'll find it at walmart or target. sebastian is a good brand (i think) if you dont care about ingredients, which you can get at any hair place. get the burnt umber-y color.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on May 25, 2006 09:15:44 PM
I strongly advice you to use only natural wax, or natural component wax mix. Think it will stay in you dread, even if you wash them. I used bee wax for my first dreads, and it was a nightmare. When I told my hubby I was going to dread my hair again, he told me" oh no it will be all sticky again!".
Now I use a wax from Kusco Murphy
http://www.healthandbeautydepot.com/kusco_murphy.htm it is a australian vegan product and it is completely natural but awfully expensive: 29$ (I use the Ice wax). But when you compare to the Sebastian wax, which is a styling wax, and which contain a lot of shit: petroleum and such. I think it's a big no no for dreadies.
So far, my wax did wonders. My dreadies (7 they are!) are fluffy, correctly knot, and non sticky (hubby is happy). And I can tell you I am happy as well as I was king of afraid to do again the dread experience!
You can find, and ask for, the complete vegan guide at the leaping bunny website: http://www.leapingbunny.org/shopping_guide.htm

Hope it helps!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 26, 2006 09:31:29 AM
I would also advise to only use natural waxes... I myself have seen the differences first hand on my own dreads. For the first month I used Dread Head HQ wax (which contains white oil and microcrystaline wax - very bad) and I ended up chuckin' the full jar out. Then I switched to knottyboy thanks to a friend's recommendation and I realized the difference. They only use natural ingredients in their wax. They even have an ingredients section on their website which dissects each product giving you a breakdown of all of their ingredients and what they do.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 28, 2006 07:42:46 PM
heres a pic of my hair down-


-sorry for the uglyness of my face, but cut me some slack, i just woke up and my dad wanted a pic of Kanuky.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on May 29, 2006 09:06:58 AM
Ah I love your dreads Milkweed! They're beautious!  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 01, 2006 01:38:26 PM
thank you! lol


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreadful penny on June 02, 2006 06:45:10 AM
ok, after 48 pages I figured I'd join the chant...
I've had my dreadies for about 10 years - started from an inch of hair... I was a goth-y deathpunk long, long ago, then one day I realized I'd like to get away from the bathroom mirror in enough time to actually have some fun.

They have been every color of the spectrum (currently rooty blonde, and faded purple, blue and green), set on fire, covered in paint, glue, and glitter, caught in doors, dangled with beads and steel and brass hardware, they have injured my friends and given me bruises! I love them to death!

Dready action shots (from about a year ago):
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i221/dreadfulpenny/dreadies.jpg

In regards to the great care debate I quote the inimitable Chef Ra: "Dreads are wash and wear, f**k style!"
a light shampoo every other day - a light conditioner every few weeks


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 02, 2006 04:39:44 PM
Your dreads are beautiful!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on June 02, 2006 04:50:23 PM
droool.... now that is HOT.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 05, 2006 02:44:52 AM
Yes it is. I can't wait to get mine. Just haave to wait my exxams as nowdays i can't skip a day of studing.....  Sometimes I hate I'M an uni student >:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 05, 2006 10:21:21 AM
Beautiful dreads!!!! I love the lenght...  ;D You condition? I was always told not to? Well appart from using aloe.

I wish I could have just washed them and left them alone... unfortunately that isn't and will never be an option for me. Thankfully these days I really don't need to do anything anymore except for a little cleanup every couple of months. But thumbs up to those who can just let them do their own thing.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on June 05, 2006 03:33:05 PM
I'm cutting them tonight... I'm ready for a change and its too hot for all the sports I play. OHHHH WELL, it was a great 2 years!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: shannon1981 on June 05, 2006 03:50:29 PM
That's so sad that you have to cut them :'(.  I wonder what kind of crafting you could do with them, hmmm.....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 05, 2006 06:10:37 PM
ooooo, hope this is the best for. Just cutting them ? Won't you even try to comb a bit out.  Show after pics plz.  I keep telling myself I'll able to undo at least a bit of it. It'd be a shock if not...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 06, 2006 08:05:28 AM
viri, when i cut mine out i had about 5 cm of hair left on my head.. what i tried to comb out looked like hell so we just decided to cut it off, but that is my wonderfull icky hair so maybe its different for anyone else.

piratasucia, make sure u want to cut them! if you aren't 100% you'll regret it. but i'm sure youve thought of that :) what are you going to do with them afterwards?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 06, 2006 08:56:42 AM
piratasucia :

As long as you're ok with it I applaud you! Not an easy thing to deside I'm sure.
Have you considered trying to raise funds for cancer or other charitable things by cutting your locks?

I already know that if I ever decide cut my dreadlocks I will also raise money for cancer research. My highschool is notorious for it, just in the last 4 years they have raised over $150,000. My last year there we raised over $40,000 (in only one year!). This spring they held a "shave your head for cancer" day which held a world record for the amount of heads shaved in 10 minutes (or something like that). Over 500 turned up to get their heads shaved. Now if one was to shave off their dreadlocks well that would surely raise more money than just normal hair.

I found this to be very awesome:
http://www.knottyboy.com/about/charity.php
http://dreadsforwishes.blogspot.com/

I would definately consider it. Why not?!?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 06, 2006 12:00:42 PM
hmmm 5 cm's isn't much. I'd be OK w/  10cm hair left. But anyway I decided to get dreads come what may come just I'm a bit nervous cuz I never had short hair. I have the Idea that my face is just not for short hair and also my (little) femminity is in it to.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 06, 2006 01:59:18 PM
Knottyboy sells a dreadlock removal kit that supposedly lets you keep all of your hair... I hear it works. One of my brother's friends had a friend with dreads who used the kit and supposedly he didn't even have to cut ANYTHING... so he got to keep ALL of his hair. Awesome if you ask me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 06, 2006 02:55:56 PM
oke dread removal kit, if it works, great but think about the state of the hair..
its not like the 'fresh' hair at the roots anymore..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 06, 2006 03:11:50 PM
AT the roots? Why? I understand why it's not the same downer, but at the roots? Anyway I'd rather have dammaged hair than no or really little hair.... If I really sick of it I still can cut that down.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: lilfishyinbigblu on June 06, 2006 03:17:59 PM
you can remove dreads and have OK hair after it. i removed mine after having them for about 4 months. it took about a day to comb them all out and many many tubes of conditioner. and i continue to condition like mad but my hair is still long and in pretty good shape. so if removing them is any ones fears, they can be combed out, it just takes a whole lot of time....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 06, 2006 03:25:58 PM
the new hair is in beter condition than the lower/older hair that has been dreadded and matted even..
i can get that after 4 months the hair isn't doing too bad but after a year or more it cant be doing too well
and by too well i mean in comparison to non dreaded hair..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 06, 2006 04:12:47 PM
Warning, pix! I am so happy how my dreads turn out so wonderful, it is way way better than the first time.
My little experience
Wash your dreads once a week with an antiresidue shampoo, very important
Use natural wax one a week
back comb a little roots and ends
difficult to do on yourself, but the crochet trick is wonderful!

Let me know what you think



Sorry the pix were for showing off something else (outfit) at first.

EDIT: my butt is NOT that huge, baggy pants's fault (yep, true! I swear, I can even spit!) ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 06, 2006 04:22:58 PM
your dreads look great, the color is awsome!....i also like the outfit, lol  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 06, 2006 04:35:30 PM
ohhh I forgot to post about your picture with the baby bird, it is the most adorable pix! You are a cute as the bird and as fluffy! Thank you for your nice words!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: pinkkittypiper on June 06, 2006 04:47:18 PM
Hyena your dreads are awesome and I love your outfit (the t-shirt and shrug especially - did you make them both?)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 06, 2006 04:52:48 PM
ohhh I forgot to post about your picture with the baby bird, it is the most adorable pix! You are a cute as the bird and as fluffy! Thank you for your nice words!

haha! thanks we dont have that bird now tho...we had to give him to our freinds on a farm(that all the eggs came from) because we arnt alowed to have them where we live-*angst* but we still have 3 duckys and 1 turky. oh! and we had some button quail hatch! they were so cute but we didnt have anywhere to put them where they wouldnt get trampled, so to the farm they went....sorry for the offtopicness   :P

ps, there are some pics of them on my blog ^_^


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 06, 2006 04:53:35 PM
thanx pinkkittypiper! I just have 10 dreads so far. I need to dread the sides and the back of my head. But they are so fluffy and healthy that it looks like everything is dreaded. Hubby calls it the little mess.
The tee is from Kid Pirate, she is awesome super talented, everything she designs is UBER cute (I took it in, cause I am so skinny that the small size was too big...). The shrug I crocheted it with rmd design handspun yarn. It is super soft merino and it doesn't itch at all! I will post more pix in the crochet forum.
Thank you for your super nice words!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 07, 2006 02:09:38 AM
Yeah Hyena they are so nice.... I wish mine will be as nice as yours. AM I right that it's much longer than last time? If yes they are growing really fast.
I really like the  shrug aswell. I planning to knit sg alike during the summer, if my temdoms are agreee haha. They are really sensitive and if I get tendovaginitis I have it for like two months wich means no capoeira so I'm really careful.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 07, 2006 06:03:50 AM
Ooooh how cute. I think shorter dreads are so spunky and full of life!! I sometimes miss my shorter dreads. Anyway they are awesome!!!!

On the topic of dread removal:
Sam: That's what I figured... after a year your matted hair can't be in that good of shape. But I was told that it worked. Who knows. Hopefully I never have to find out. haha.

The dreadremoval kit is some sort of super intense conditionner I'm guessing. I mean once your dreads are gone you could always use a hot oil treatment to help repair the damage and just give yourself a good 1 to 2 inch trim. Personally I'd rather have a little damaged hair and let the new growth come before I get rid of it. Better than a buzz cut. Well unless you're doing it for cancer which I will if it ever gets to the point of me not wanting dreads.... I don't forsee this happening anytime in the next couple decades.

I checked it out on their site and this is the stuff I found out about it:
http://www.knottyboy.com/learn/dreadremoval.php
http://www.knottyboy.com/shop/dreadlock_removal_kit/knotty_boy_emergency_dreadlock_removal_kit/

Whatever... for $25 I would give it a try. If it doesn't work it wouldn't be a huge waste of money.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 07, 2006 06:26:45 AM
the part of the dread that i did get undone was sorta frizzed like my hair now, because of the perm.
w8.. I have a picture of the shortness and weirdness of my short haired head:


hmm... some parts were longer.. but the shrtest were about 5 cm..

on another note:
Check the dread swap idea thinggie post out!
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16739784.0 (https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16739784.0)
Just need to know who wants to join, and if people have idea's and all.. so go for it!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on June 07, 2006 07:36:13 AM
CECILE I LOVE YOUR DREADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 07, 2006 08:00:31 AM
Well it's not bad. Yeah maybe the perm was the key.... It really damages your hair. My problem is my head looks like the letter U, so I really need a bit of hair framing my face creating the illusion that i have an oval shape head.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on June 07, 2006 09:37:25 AM
Fckadog I think you look cool with short hair. I loved my short hair as much as I love my dreads, because it was easy to dye it lots of different colours and it would grow out quickly and not lose condition. But after having short hair for pretty much my whole life, I was ready for a change ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 07, 2006 11:39:29 AM
I loved to dye my short hair.. only the decoloring was a bitch turning my hair yellow/orange :S
but still having dreads is more ME :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on June 07, 2006 01:15:11 PM
well it's been 2 years, and I was too hot so I cut.







Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 07, 2006 01:25:09 PM
Oh wow you look great with short hair! Suits you very well. And hey one day maybe you'll decide to lock up again. It's only hair... it grows back.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hurricane_sc on June 07, 2006 01:37:15 PM
I love the new hair! Very cute on you! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 07, 2006 01:40:08 PM
yeah. You look so growin' up. Your cut is salon or diy?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Pauly on June 08, 2006 07:32:45 AM
Hey just came across this thread and thought I would post a couple pics of my dreadlocks




here they are with some felt


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 08, 2006 08:54:57 AM
Fckadog and piratasucia you are awesome without your dreads! Short hair fit you super well, in your very different style!
Pauly, you are so cute and your dreads are beautiful!
Thank you Jaamie darling!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 08, 2006 12:15:35 PM
Yeah Pauly they are gr8. The color the beeds the whole thing......


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 08, 2006 01:01:11 PM
Pauly:

Nice dreads. I'm totally envious of your lenght... haha I can't wait for mine to get that long.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on June 08, 2006 03:23:25 PM
yeah. You look so growin' up. Your cut is salon or diy?

I got the original cut at a salon, but then i touched it up at home cause some parts were WEIRD.

Haha, everyone at school either didnt recognize me or thought i looked about 5 years older. Which I guess is ok.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 08, 2006 04:01:08 PM
pauly your dreads are beautiful!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on June 12, 2006 01:31:45 AM
Pauly, those dreads are fabulous! Have you dyed some of them orange? I'm thinking of making a few of mine orange, red or green.. And Daiconharuko, so cute!

My dreads are 6 months old now, so I thought I should share a new picture. I just love how they've turned out. I crochet them now and then, mostly to keep the roots from mating (they love each other..) and wax them when I remember to, which isn't often. As you can see they are a bit lumpy, they tightens a lot and fast!

http://crafty.vildhavre.com/har.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 12, 2006 06:08:11 AM
daiconharuko: they look great!!!! I really love your glasses too!!!

Vildhavre :
Wowza! Those are looking great for 6 months!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on June 12, 2006 08:20:07 AM
Hey just came across this thread and thought I would post a couple pics of my dreadlocks

here they are with some felt

Oh my goodness, you and your dreads are so beautiful! You remind me of my best friend which makes me wanna hug you!  :D ;D


daiconharuko- Your glasses totally rock my world 3 different ways. I have such a sunglasses fetish, you can see the truth in this by visiting my myspace  :D ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on June 14, 2006 06:14:51 AM
pirat: you have such pretty, striking features. the short hair looks fantastic on you (i even think the cut baby dreads looked cute).

vlad: your hair is exactly what i want mine to be doing. i love seeing dreads that stick up!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 14, 2006 11:09:14 AM
one problem I'm having with my dread is... they're curling!! I have natural curly hair, and it's almost impossible to keep my dreads from curling. Does anyone else have this problem (or has anyone else done this with natural nappy-curly hair..??)

First off where are your dreads curling? The whole dread, the roots, the tips? Which part? Secondly how thick are your dreads? Are they skinny? Thrid how old are they? Can't really answer any questions till I find out.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 14, 2006 06:55:23 PM
Yeah that's what I'm thinking... they're fresh and not very thick...
If they are backcombed and have not been combed tightly enough this may be the cause... Eventually it will sort itself out.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on June 14, 2006 10:03:21 PM
I have babydreads and they are curly as hell, like seriously. The especially curl at the roots of the dreads at the back of my head, which I thought was weird. Those are backcombed really well and are pretty fat. They will sort themselves out. In the meanwhile, I enjoy having curly dreads :D

Oh wait, they are curly everywhere...cool


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 15, 2006 06:15:33 AM
Curly dreads actually sounds cool anyway...  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 15, 2006 01:38:24 PM
I needle felted some wool into one of my dreads-


And my freind put in a hairwrap for me-


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 15, 2006 02:08:15 PM
nice milkweed, I read somewhere that you can use the needlefelting methody thing to fix weak parts in your dreads
and btw, you might want to have someone check out that eye!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 15, 2006 08:10:03 PM
Milkweed that is awesome! Never would have thought about felting some yarn in there! Love it!

Fckadog :
I've also heard this... but along with it I heard that it breaks hairs which can make your dread weaker in the process. But then again I've never tried it.... I've just heard things... hehe  8)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on June 16, 2006 04:44:27 AM
I bought the KnottyBoy wax but I didn't really get on with it -- it took ages to put in and didn't seem to make any difference. I also got the tropical tightening gel which smells lovely but again, didn't seem to do anything. I love their shampoo bar though.

I've also used the recipe for a deep-cleaning wash using kitchen ingredients that Naked_ninja posted several pages back, and that was fab. Loads of brown ming came out  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on June 16, 2006 08:26:01 AM
I used the KB liquid soap for a while. It felt awesome with the peppermint oil in it, but I hated that there was no lather. I'm using Neutrogena now. I also have the KB wax which I used once in a while in the beginning but I haven't used it in almost two months. I'm a little afraid of it  :D I've put too much in before and it looks *really* bad! I've used a couple of the homemade recipes posted here (peppermint spray for itchies, rosemary spray, and the apple cider vinegar rinse) and they were all awesome. I definetly recommend those!

I need some ideas from you crafty people...my brother is getting married in two weeks and I'm in the wedding (bridesmaid  ::)) He's pretty conservative and I don't want my hair to draw much attention. I haven't been able to come up with a style that will look somewhat elegant for their big day though. Any ideas? Please help! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 16, 2006 10:03:12 AM
here's a few idea's for you mitsie
http://www.knottyboy.com/play/dreadstyle.php (http://www.knottyboy.com/play/dreadstyle.php)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 16, 2006 11:23:20 AM
The only "products" I use are shampoo (either Neutrogena Anti-Residue Shampoo or Melaleuca Natural's Shampoo) and some KnottyBoy wax every now and then. Haven't used wax since about Febuary. I only use it every couple of months when I notice my locks getting dry.

I mostly do home-remedy stuff with tea tree oil, peppermint oil, and rosemary. Once in a while I'll combine them with either a carrier oil or water and I'll spritz my scalp and dreads just for fun (feels great and it also acts as a gentle moisturizer to keep your dreads from getting brittle).

I also LOVE aloe. The absolute best natural moisturizer for dreads.

mitsie99 :
Contrary to popular belief, suds aren't what's responsible for cleaning your scalp and hair. Suds are usually caused by chemicals like SLS (sodium laurel sulfate or sodium laureth sulfate) which are supposedly bad for you. I've even heard that they are used in heavy duty carpet cleaners. Knotty Boy's shampoos do not contain any sudsing agents such as SLS hence the no-suds thing.

Now having used SLS containing shampoos since I was a child without knowing, and without any ill-effects, I just don't really get the whole uproar. It's been debated over for a while now. Some say that it's harmless and others say that it can cause a variety of things such as blindness in infants to severe psoriasis and even cancer. Who knows. I'm not scientist...

What I don't understand is that virtually EVERY single shampoo on the market contains SLS in one form or another. Me and my bf have started a home-based business with Melaleuca The Wellness Company which only sells environmentally friendly (eco-sense) products and even their shampoo contains Sodium Laureth Sulfate derived from coconuts. Melaleuca products are so safe that a child can go under the sink and drink stuff and only get the shits and an upset stomach... why would they use SLS if it was an extremely bad chemical? I just don't get it.

Now SLS isn't harmfull to dreadlocks as far as I know but if anyone is concerned the only shampoo's I know of that don't contain it are:
Knottyboy
Dr. Bronners (recently I've heard that one of their shampoos contain it or something alone those lines).

What dreadlock folks like us need to stay away from is residues in forms of conditionners, artificial scents, moisturizers (except for essential oils and aloe), and phosphates. Basically the more junk in the shampoo the more crap stays in your dreads. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 16, 2006 01:25:35 PM
Now having used SLS containing shampoos since I was a child without knowing, and without any ill-effects, I just don't really get the whole uproar. It's been debated over for a while now. Some say that it's harmless and others say that it can cause a variety of things such as blindness in infants to severe psoriasis and even cancer. Who knows. I'm not scientist...

If it causes blindness, psoriasis and perhaps even cancer (everything causes cancer these days, so even craftster should have a warning on here) why is noone changing the contents of their shampoo's? Sometimes people are all blabla over something that people have been using every day for YEARS, DECADES CENTURIES for all I care, and now it's bad but we don't do anything, no tests, nothing. The conclusion I'm taking is that some funny person decided to say it's bad, or that there are TRACE AMMOUNTS of something bad in it thus making it cancer forming (if you decide to lie in a bath filled with shampoo for a year you might get cancer...and then eat the bath tub.... let's!)
anything is bad for you if you use it the wrong way, but I like my soap sudded cleanliness routine so I'm taking my chances and promise I won't eat, bath in, have kinky sex with or in any other way abuse my shampoo, thus rendering me almost chance of sickness free

on a non rant note, I got a hold of some knottyboy wax and I wasn't much impressed. it was more gooey than the one I have (Let's Dread, yay for vast ammounts of different brands available here, not) and didn't do much for me in the scent department, I like smells, they make me happy.. the wax I have now smells like honey (vaguely) but the shampoo is rank, I'm off to find some neutrogena tomorrow, I'm pretty sure I've seen it in holland once.. fingers crossed!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 16, 2006 02:26:02 PM
Yeah agreed... I definately am not thinking of having kinky sex in a bath full of SLS anytime in the near future.

You know... even the health food store shampoo has Sodium Laureth Sulfate in it...

So you aren't diggin' the Knotty Boy wax. Not the first time I hear this from people... but heh, it is much better than the dreadheadhq stuff I used to use. Those are the only two I've tried and KNotty Boy wins hands down. I'm also pretty happy that it only contains natural ingredients and I really love the smell. What's this Let's Dread stuff you are talking about? Can you order online? I would love to try different kinds just to see what's out there. It's nice to have a variety.  :D


On yet another note........... Home-made dread soap!!!
Does anyone make their own dread bar soap? I would love to make myself some but I really don't know where to start ingredient-wise. Should you go glycerine based? Olive oil based? Animal fat? Now I know that Michaels sells tubs of Clear Glycerin Soap Base, Olive Oil Suspension Soap Base, and White Glycerin Soap Base (with coconut oil). I'm not sure whether the already-made-soap-base or the make-it-from-scratch-soap is the best way to go? I don't know much about bar soap and it's effects on dreadlocks... Any tips would be super helpful to myself and I'm sure many others.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 16, 2006 02:48:45 PM
kinky sex would be more kinky in the SLS tho... it's a shame

If you want to try the let's dread I'll send you some if we get paired up in the swap, as far as online I don't know where you could get it! but I have heard about it on a random dread site long long ago.. The knottyboy stuff just didn't have much smell to it (in my opinion) maybe because my friend had the dark one, I doubt that makes any difference.

I had to wash my dreads 2 days ago, dirt and such whilst frolicking in the lovely warm sunshine for a change here, and i had no soap left and ended up using an olive soap bar.. it felt good on my dreads to be honest, they look better than with my normal shampoo yet my scalp was more itchy and I think it didn't clean much up there :( so, i'd also much like to know how to make my own stuff, and one that smells good, pepperminty  ::) dread stuff is just so damn expencive



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 16, 2006 03:13:50 PM
I haven't made one by myself but bought one olive based shampoo bar with rosemary on a craft fair and it works perfectly. k, yet i have normal hair but have really sensitive scalp. I've tried several shampoos even medical stuff, but this is the one that cleans my scalp perfectly. (Now I'm suspecting that I didn't have dandruff but a heavy allergy). Anyway I want to try to make one myself, but I have no idea where to buy Na-Oh or cocoa butter, or Castor oil, or what's the difference between a soap or a shampoo bar.
About SLS and other chemical debates:
I guess we are overusing the chemicals but we overusing it since we were made, like our mothers overused it so I think that's why we are resistant to most of the chemicals. They don't test well these stuff and it can be that some of the are harmful but you can't protect yourself perfectly. The market wants to sell its products so they do everything to convince you to buy one and not to buy the others. I know a guy who works for a science lab, and he is working on an experiment (payed by a tobacco company ) that wants to prove that smoking is not that bad. So how can we judge by that so called studies. I personally try eat/ live healthfully and keep my fingers acrossed that my body will care for the rest.
Anyway life is a STD fatal in 100% of the cases.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 16, 2006 04:23:11 PM
Anyway life is a STD fatal in 100% of the cases.

Hahhaa I love that. Well said Viri.


I posted a topic in discussions in hopes that someone can point us in the right direction for dreadlock soap-making success!
Keep an eye of it folks:
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16741509.0


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 16, 2006 04:30:23 PM
:) I just saw that post and was like: hey I should tell her, oh.. it's her own post... damnit!

would people actually know if the soap leaves residue? cause normal soap making doesnt have to take non residue leaving into consideration, right?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 16, 2006 09:59:26 PM
I'm not too sure... I did mention the non-residue thing and a link to knottyboy's soap bar as well as things that I definately know I have to stay away from. Hopefully this is enough.

I think I may actually go onto knottylocks and post this... bah...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 17, 2006 02:59:36 AM
well.. they do sell neutrogena here, but not the Anti-Residue Shampoo.. I can order it online for $5 and then spend up to $45 for shipping... I'll pass!!!  >:(

I read somewhere on knottylocks that someone used the tea tree shampoo from the bodyshop
Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate, Cocamide DEA, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Fragrance, Piroctone Olamine, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Thymus Vulgairs (Thyme) Oil, Benzoic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Polyquaternium-7, Honey, Leptospemium Scoparium (Manuka) Oil, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Disodium EDTA
mmmmm long list of stuff, has SLS...

or even lactacyd (vagina soap emulsion) on dreads.. funny, I have some of that, might give it a go, costs next to nothing and it's for sensitive area's so it should be residue free

there has got to be some good soap stuff out there that wont cost an arm and a leg!

and daiconharuko, congrats on getting your locks!


-edit-

Finally found someone via via via friends!
but wow are the prices for knotty boy and dreadhead stuff different!
475ml bottle of knottyboy is €24 and 470ml bottle of dreadhead is €12...
I'd really like to try the knottyboy stuff, but the €12 is very tempting.. I see how dreadhead gets customers.. even if their products aren't all natural like knotty boys


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 17, 2006 06:50:36 AM
daiconharuko :
Yeah I don't think it causes cancer... I just read it a long time ago in some huge debate thing about SLS.

Also congrats on your locks! Forgot to mention it earlier!  ;D

Fckadog :
I reluctantly posted a thread on knottylocks to see if someone will answer. Hopefully I don't get the "Why don't you just wash with peanut butter" type of replies. If I get anything useful I'll defintately report back to this thread! I think we can all benefit from learning how to make our own soap.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 17, 2006 08:31:56 AM
i put in 2 dreads this morning just for the fun of it. i want to get dreads this summer! maybe after senior pictures. are they supposed to be light and airy and see-through? cause that's what mine look like. (I can't post pics) I'll have to take them out before I go to work tonight, but hopefully by the end of the summer I'll have my whole head done!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: KeenKitty on June 17, 2006 03:26:58 PM
I actually have a SEVERE allergy to sulfites and Sulfa srugs topically and orally.  If I use shampoo with it I break out in open sores and hives.

If I ingest it I also break out in hives and go into respitory arrest.

They may not cause cancer but they are NOT and I repeat NOT good for the body.

There are plenty of great soaps, shampoos and rinses that don't use SLS or sulfites of anykind.

Trust me I have tried all of them :)

As for washing dreads, my dad has dreads down to his butt and he uses water and applie cider vinegar to rinse them then clear water.

And people say how long and nice his look.  But then again he is Zimbawean...so his hair texture might be different.

My hair had dreads all through college but I shaved my head and gave it to my friend with cancer, every once and a while I get dread falls but my job wouldn;t allow full dreads with my hair it would be unruly, its already mock dreaded without my help!

~KK


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on June 17, 2006 07:13:59 PM
Dreadlock swap going on right now ladies!

https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16741696.0


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 17, 2006 07:42:45 PM
are they supposed to be light and airy and see-through?

How well did you back comb them? You gotta do it a lot. And they will be kinda light and airy if they're new, and wax-free. Wax kinda holds them togeather like glue.

Thankies! :)  I'm joining the swap too. ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on June 19, 2006 10:14:34 AM
Thats so neat that theres a dread swap going on, though i won't be joining, i'll watch it closely all the same.

I'm having some problems with my dreads. I've been waxing them once a week, and they stay really nice for a couple days, but then when i wash them, the ends unravel and become silky smooth. Some of the dreads in the back come completely undone. I wash them only once or twice a week, but they still keep coming undone :( People have been talking about roots coming loose, and i have zero problems with that, its only the ends. I crocheted them, i waxed them, i backcomed... and nothing helps. Its so sad, so if anyone has any advice... i'd more than appreciate it. I am getting them maintained tomorrow, so i hope that helps.

and if we're still on the subject of phunky chemicals in shampoo... well for one, people are way too careful nowdays, and for two, look at the stuff you eat man. forget what you use externally, look at things like otc drugs and fast food. you're putting that inside you! i'd be way more worried about that stuff than small amounts of chemicals that make bubbles in soap and hurt when you get it in your eyes. just my thoughts...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 19, 2006 10:22:12 AM
Why won't you join! WHY? :P

and further:
I wouldn't wax that often, wax is just to keep things together lightly, it doesn't really aid the dreadforming much at all.
I've also had the ends come undone after washing, sleeping even! I found that crocheting the ends then binding them helps that. After a while the ends knot and you can take off the string. You can look on dreadheadhq.com how to do it if I remember rightly...
And last but not least, how old are your dreads (sorry if I'm bad at keeping track)? that also helps with coming undone.. and maybe washing them that often in the beginning isn't the best of idea's (I know, sounds grose not washing a lot, but hair does self clean after a while.. just avoid getting your hair dirty)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on June 19, 2006 11:33:44 AM
I've had some bad swap experiences, so no more for me.

My dreads will be a month old tomorrow, so i guess they're still in the early stages. (aww, babies)

and now, baby pictures!


^ugly before picture. didn't even take my uniform off.


^fuzzy photo, i had had them for 2 weeks


^my 11 y/o cousin took this pic when i wasn't looking, but its one of my favs. same day as the above picture, also the first time using wax. They've since become really loose at the bottom.

I never thought of wrapping the bottoms! Thats a really good idea, i think i'll try it soon :) I only wash them when my scalp gets itchy (or after getting mass amounts of sand in them from the beach), but i should probably be less rough on my hair when i do wash. and i know they wont be perfect right away (or ever), but it would be nice to not have to redread after each washing >.<


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 19, 2006 03:28:58 PM
Nice dreadies... :)
wow what a school uniform. What did /do you study?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on June 19, 2006 04:38:25 PM
I went to a military academy for highschool, and that picture was taken about 20 minutes after i graduated  :) Yeah, my last name is collector, on the nametag you can see it there. above is my rank (chief), and the cord is for band (i was the cymbal monkey). Plus a QBH (qualified boat handler, required for graduating) and my pretty art medal.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on June 19, 2006 05:44:22 PM
Come and play with us in the Dreadlock Swap!!!!


https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16741696.0





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 19, 2006 07:09:27 PM
Wallaby:

Their looking mighty fine for 1 monthers if you ask me! Beautiful!!! You seem to have thick hair which is totally awesome for dreads! What you seem to be going through is pretty much normal for new dreads. The only way to stop the unravelling is to tie or rubber band the ends. I don't suggest rubber bands because they can rot, but if your only using them for about a month or two you should be fine. If you use them more often just keep replacing the old ones... trust me. The best thing you can do is wrap your ends with thread because it will never rot. If you use a thread in your hair color it will be barely visible. Here's how you do it:

1) Backcomb your tips till you can't anymore.

2) Take a small metal crochet hook and suck in all the fuzz from the tips the best you can.

3) Thread a needle with either embroidery thread or plain old sewing thread in your hair color. (Using a needle just makes things way easier).

4) Wrap your tips and you can even pass through your dread with the needle to secure it a little more. Wrap it real good and try to keep all the hairs in.

5) MAke a knot and voila!!!

Now it can take anywhere from 2 to 4 and sometimes even 5 or 6 months for your tips to harden, but the thread holding everything in place should speed things up. It only took about 2 months for my tips to harden. Once your tips harden you can take the threads out with a seam ripper.

Other things I would suggest would be to shampoo only once a week and use the wax less often. When you shampoo don't wash your dreads, wash your scalp. The soapy water your rinse off will also cleanse your dreads. You can make yourself a home-made locking accelorator (helps to speed up the locking process by adding texture to your hair and thus making it easier to knot up) by mixing approx. 2 to 3 tablespoons of sea salt with warm water and some lemon juice (make sure it's pure lemon juice with no sugars) in a spray bottle and spritz this on your locks now and then -  AVOID YOUR SCALP and adjust the mixture to suit your needs. Just don't use too much sea salt or lemon juice because it can severely dry out your locks. Now you can use the accelorator one week and the wax the next. Or even use the accelorator for a few weeks and then wax once a month or something.

Another thing to suggest would be to cover your dreads when you sleep. Either with a scarf, a tam, or nylon stockings. Just buy some panty hose and stick them on your head and shove your dreads up each leg. Sounds corny but it really helps to prevent untangling and loose hairs.


Just give it time and things will sort themselves out!!! They look wonderful regardless!!!  ;D Good luck and I hope you enjoy your knotty journey.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on June 19, 2006 07:13:34 PM
I'm definentally gonna wrap the ends now. I know its been mentioned before, but i always thought it was the roots you wrapped, not the ends. silly me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 20, 2006 01:35:23 AM
You do both actually :)

the roots are wrapped to help the new growth 'find the dread' and lock up

and then the tips/ends.. well that was just explained :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: retroxxlove on June 22, 2006 06:37:36 PM
I've been wanting dreads for a while.
But my mother would probably kill me, I'm 17 and I'm waiting for that 8-- becuase I'm off to college and on with dreads!
:]


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: beadgrrl on June 22, 2006 06:48:43 PM
For now to appease the parental unit, just go to the beauty supply store and buy some cheeep hair (synthetic kankelon ect..) and make some of your own.

    If you buy the long stuff you just take a good sized pinch of hair(depending on how big you want your dreads) and make a larks head knot around a groovy piece of ribbon or cool scarf.  Stabilize 1/2 of the hair and tease the other side like crazy.  Once it is all teased, smooth and roll until it gets to kinda a "dready" shape.  Do the other one.  Once rolled, use a hair dryer on high heat and start at the top and slowly move down toward the end.  The heat kinda melts the plastic hair and holds it into place.  Do a few and slide them together.  Once finished, you just tie the ribbon or scarf up in your hair/ make a ponytail and it looks like you are dreaded.

    I have made many in different colors (pink, black, Burgundy, brown, blond, white..)  I change them around like I change my shirt!  Still fit in as a teacher by day, and super cool hair by night!

edit**  I'm new here and did not even notice how long this thread was.  Sorry if I repeated something that was already posted....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: retroxxlove on June 22, 2006 07:11:12 PM
I posted pics earlier on in this thread... It's almost hard to believe all of the knowledge I've accumulated over the months. It's also hard to believe the progress they've made.

Here are my dreads at 9 months - if I'm not mistaken:

Here are the newest pics. Almost 11 month old.

Here is a little closeup... you can really see how they are starting to get all smooth and matted:

You can see the difference between 9 months and 11... just goes to show that dreads are ever changing and they get more and more beautiful with age. It takes a little patience, understanding, and acceptance, but it's well worth it in the end.


 you have beautiful dreads!! :] I'm jealous.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: retroxxlove on June 22, 2006 07:12:40 PM
For now to appease the parental unit, just go to the beauty supply store and buy some cheeep hair (synthetic kankelon ect..) and make some of your own.

    If you buy the long stuff you just take a good sized pinch of hair(depending on how big you want your dreads) and make a larks head knot around a groovy piece of ribbon or cool scarf.  Stabilize 1/2 of the hair and tease the other side like crazy.  Once it is all teased, smooth and roll until it gets to kinda a "dready" shape.  Do the other one.  Once rolled, use a hair dryer on high heat and start at the top and slowly move down toward the end.  The heat kinda melts the plastic hair and holds it into place.  Do a few and slide them together.  Once finished, you just tie the ribbon or scarf up in your hair/ make a ponytail and it looks like you are dreaded.

    I have made many in different colors (pink, black, Burgundy, brown, blond, white..)  I change them around like I change my shirt!  Still fit in as a teacher by day, and super cool hair by night!

edit**  I'm new here and did not even notice how long this thread was.  Sorry if I repeated something that was already posted....

good idea, if you could--do you have pictures...I'd like to learn a little more about it!! :]


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 23, 2006 08:16:30 AM
retroxxlove:
Ah chucks... Thanks a bunch hun!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on June 23, 2006 10:39:58 AM
the fake dread ponytail bits are called "falls" and you can proably find more info about them here on craftster.  you can also make them from wool roving or yarn in a pinch.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on June 25, 2006 08:51:13 PM
for all the dreads i've seen on ebay over the years, never have i seen anyone bid on them.  he'd be better off passin em onto locks of love or wigs for kids.  i've still got the big bundle of my old dreads sitting in the bedroom.  i thought maybe i would freak my mom out and randomly mail her one or two.  its bizarre to touch em once they're off yer head.  i keep thinking i'll dream up some wild art piece to make them into....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on June 25, 2006 09:13:05 PM
for all the dreads i've seen on ebay over the years, never have i seen anyone bid on them.  he'd be better off passin em onto locks of love or wigs for kids.  i've still got the big bundle of my old dreads sitting in the bedroom.  i thought maybe i would freak my mom out and randomly mail her one or two.  its bizarre to touch em once they're off yer head.  i keep thinking i'll dream up some wild art piece to make them into....

I actually have a couple of my best friends dreads in a box where I keep special things. I don't think it's weird, but hey, I am kind of weird  :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 25, 2006 10:08:38 PM
Nah I don't think that's weird smoker. I've even heard of people who sew their friend's locks into their own for "safe keeping" or as natural dread extensions.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 26, 2006 06:07:41 AM
I actually have seen a few of those!
they dont look half bad, only thickness and color are slightly different


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on June 26, 2006 12:42:32 PM
Nah I don't think that's weird smoker. I've even heard of people who sew their friend's locks into their own for "safe keeping" or as natural dread extensions.  ;)
i have  2 of my friends dreads and i have helped a few dreaded friends sew their dreads onto friends heads.. it was fun to see the different dreaded styles evolve on the different heads...

now that my one friend shaved her hair she is going to make some sort of dreaded hat to randomly wear....

and it is really weird to touch dreads that have been cut off...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreadful penny on June 26, 2006 03:44:34 PM
I've done this for years with friends locks and wraps... and if they fall out they get hung on the wall, I've bunches of 'em!   ;D
I'll post a pic sometime...
I've used 'threadlocks' to keep em' in tight, But I've also used tacky glue, duco cement, and other horrid stuff you're not supposed to do...
But its a nice way to keep my 'people' around me!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on June 27, 2006 08:08:53 AM
I have wanted dreads for a long time and now I migth actually get them. Mt hair is shortish and I dont know if its long enough to look normal so yonight my mom is going to separate my hair and we are going to braid each section so I can see if my hair looks good. If it does then I will get dreads if is doesnt I will wait for my hair to be a little longer


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 27, 2006 08:36:38 AM
Is it normal to have 12" long hair and have it turn into a 4" dreadlock?
I think I might be backcombing wrong. I end up with knots by my head and a couple of really long strands holding it there. kind of like gathering fabric if you know what I mean.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 27, 2006 09:10:02 AM
id say you're backcombing a bit too harshly..

When I do dreads I just try to dread it up from the top to the bottom
by that i mean section your hair, grab your section about half way and start to backcomb.
be sure to hold the hair juuuuust tight enough to let some hairs go when you backcomb but not to let big chunks of hair be backcombed at once..
and then just rrepeat this lower, and lower and lower on the section of hair..

now, if I'm confusing (yes I know I am) you should go to dreadheadhq.com or knottyboy.com
i know dreadhead had/has some video tutorials on dreading so that could help you A LOT!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 27, 2006 09:16:53 AM
i have watched those videos...i think i just need someone to help me. and maybe my 1x1 inch sections are a bit too small.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 27, 2006 09:18:29 AM
I was just going to say that. Check out the video's at knottyboy and dreadheadhq.

www.knottyboy.com
www.dreadheadhq.com

Your hair obviously will get quite a bit shorter, but I'm not sure that it should be that much shorter. It's so hard to say without actually seeing what you've done. Listen to Fckadog's advice, and make certain to double check with those two sites to see if you've got the technique right!!! Good luck!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 27, 2006 09:23:30 AM
So you've watched them... 1 inch by 1 inch sections will give you dreads that are a little smaller than that. If you want bigger ones aim for bigger sections. On my own head we mixed the sizes randomly because I wanted a more natural look, but it's all up to you. I'm pretty sure that the size of your sections isn't what's going wrong. What kind of comb are you using? Make sure it's metal toothed. You can get smaller metal toothed combs at the dollar store in the pet's section.

Now where are you starting to backcomb???? You need to start close to the roots and just backcomb about half an inch away from your start point till you get a good knot started. Once you have that started keep going down the hair section by backcombing little sections at a time. Don't "tease" the hair like you would to get those 80's pouf bangs... just do little parts of the hair section at a time and try to get those knots nice and tight.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 27, 2006 09:27:16 AM
I found the 1" sections too big.. It's a personal thing

If you really can't figure it out try to post pics, maybe we could get a better idea from seeing it.

And what Naked Ninja said, I'm not sure either that it sould be that much shorter!

And because you say that you're holding a few longer strands in you hand in the end makes me just think that you're not holding on to they hair tight enough, letting it all go up in the dread

and if I'm right about that does the dread look like it has (quite) big loops on either side?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on June 27, 2006 09:40:49 AM
And because you say that you're holding a few longer strands in you hand in the end makes me just think that you're not holding on to they hair tight enough, letting it all go up in the dread

and if I'm right about that does the dread look like it has (quite) big loops on either side?

Yep!  That's exactly right.
I only did one, I have to wait until at least after I get my senior pictures done to get them anyway. Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 27, 2006 10:01:32 AM
Aha that's the problem then...

A little tip... Do the back of your head first (now this might be harder if your doing it all yourself) but by the time you get to the front you'll be a master dreadlock backcomber. Haha  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 28, 2006 04:46:39 AM
Hur-ray!
I got it right!!

indeed practice makes perfect, but I'd put some serious thought into asking some friends to help u when you're going to do it, it takes looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong when u do it alone
and your arms feel real real bad during and the day after.. even doing it to other people makes my arms hurt :S


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on June 28, 2006 05:05:29 AM
My sections are pretty big, because apparently I have pretty thin hair (never noticed it because of all the curls I had), but now 2 of my 'dreads' are splitting at the roots. I think it's pretty cool, I'm not going to thread them or whatever. I don't plan on maintaining them at all.

First, I went natural, but my employers/parents didn't like the look of it, so I combed my hair and backcombed them, which took me almost week. I did everything myself, it was horrible. Everything hurt, so definitely get someone to help you :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 28, 2006 07:20:01 AM
You should put up some pics!!! I love natural looking dreads...
Basically it's the same story with my bf, we backcombed and he just let it do it's own thing. His parents hate it... funny. His mom always says "This is not forever right?" He says "The only way you'll get me to get rid of them is if you get my boss to tell me to get rid of them." Funny thing is that his boss doesn't care. He drives a transport so it's not like he's dealing with loads of people... His dad is funny about it and doesn't completely hate dreads like his mom. He always touches my hair and says "Rosey I like your hair. It looks good on you." hahaa it makes my bf's mom mad. She's kind of uptight about things that are "different". My parents are completely opposite and try to be involved as much as they can.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on June 28, 2006 08:02:44 AM
I'm only at one month (I think?) but maybe I'll go ahead and post some anyway. I'm not too sure about my jobs, one is at a greengrocer's (so I have to deal with customers), and another one in a convent (nuns, even worse...). No complaints so far, but I don't think they appreciate it either. Oh well, I'm not going to cut them off or comb them out anyway.

Last Saturday was one of those days when everybody wants to touch your hair, weird. Especially because they think it gives them the right to make annoying comments about your hair (think 'ewww, your hair feels like rope' or 'do you even wash it' followed by the person SMELLING your hair).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on June 28, 2006 09:15:21 AM
I work at a headshop so even though I don't have my dreads anymore, when I wear my falls, people are cool with me. I love my job


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 28, 2006 09:51:35 AM
Last Saturday was one of those days when everybody wants to touch your hair, weird. Especially because they think it gives them the right to make annoying comments about your hair (think 'ewww, your hair feels like rope' or 'do you even wash it' followed by the person SMELLING your hair).

Lovely... I've had someone smell my locks too... it's quite creepy.
I think it's just a natural instinct that people want to touch dreads... Happens to me all the time. Strangers sneak up from behind me and tug on my hair or rub a lock between their greasy fingers... I wish some people would have the decency to ask at least... Not like I would say no, but at least I wouldn't jump ten feet in the air by being sneaked up on.  :D Oh well at least their interested I guess. The more people know about locks the more accepted they will become! I usually take these opportunities (creepy as they are) to give them a brief rundown of how they are made and how they can be taken care of (washing, maintenance...) Most people know absolutely nothing about dreads. The first reaction I always get is about washing... The accepted theory is that to get dreads, you can't wash your hair. So expect to get that one often... hahaha...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 28, 2006 10:07:15 AM
Hey dreaded girlzzz!

I read somewhere in the thread someone who kept old dreads and used them as extention in their new dreads?? Correct me if I am wrong BUT I kept my old dreads, and they are PINK! So if I wash them well and back comb them etc to have them look super, can I use them as extention? If yes, where do I add them? At the roots or at the tips of the fresh ones?

I'll post pix of my babies later!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on June 28, 2006 10:58:40 AM
i just sewed my friends dreads near the bottom of the recipients dreads... and if you were attaching it to someones hair without dreads i say brain a chunk of hair and attach it to that, wherever on it you want up higher or lower...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 28, 2006 11:50:52 AM
His dad is funny about it and doesn't completely hate dreads like his mom. He always touches my hair and says "Rosey I like your hair. It looks good on you."

My boyfreinds dad is funny about it too, only in the less fun for me way..
"Hey Sam! .. What? .. You have worms growing out of your head!"

And I've actually had loads of people come up to me and ask/touch/pull my hair (preppy school = no idea of any other style than big brand names on t-shirts). And they all thought it was grose because I can't comb it anymore, but I can, just not the way they would want me to!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: night_owl on June 28, 2006 04:39:36 PM
So I've been following this thread for quite awhile; every time I read new replies it makes me miss my dreads.  I had them for about 8 months but my scalp went bezerk so I had to take them out.  It's been about a year and I'm dying to have them back....maybe someone here can help me out??

Before, the problem was my scalp.  I'm sorry to say I inherited my daddy's skin (very dry, very sensitive) and have always had a problem with dandruff.  Things were looking a lot better so I thought I'd be able to have dreads; I found this spray on stuff that was supposed to help (you spray it on your scalp and massage it in...can't remember what brand).  I also used Dr. Bronner’s eucalyptus soap when I washed them (eucalyptus is supposed to help too).  Things were great for about 2 months but then got really bad.  It was awful, I always looked like I had just come in from a snow storm. :P  I fought to keep them always thinking that it would get better soon but it only ever got worse.....

Any ideas??  I don't have normal dandruff; It's more like cradle cap.  I kinda have my doctor stumped. :-\

I've been investigating felted dreadlocks as a substitute; but if I can make it work, I'd rather have the real thing.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 28, 2006 05:03:37 PM
My bf has the same problem... It's not even little speckles of dandruff it's large flakes of flaked off skin. He uses selson blue once a week and it cured it, but as soon as he stops using it he gets his dandruff back. So once he got rid of the dandruff again, he started using selson blue one week and neutrogena the next week.

I do realize that tea tree, eucalyptus, rosemary, and a variety of other things are said to be good for dandruff, but if you have a sensitivity or an allergy to these things it may make things FAR worse for you. I would try to find a shampoo that has absolutely no fragrances in it. I found one at Walmart (near the pharmacy tucked away in the natural/herbal care isle which is a very small section - Just ask the pharmacist where they keep their herbal/natural stuff and it should be there).

My bf was told that most of these types of dandruff cases are related to diet. A nutritionist would be able to help you, but as far as cost... I don't know. 



As for attaching old dreads:
Make sure they are clean and dry and get some thread or embroidery floss and just sew them onto the tips of your new dreads (go in and out of both dreads). To secure them either use beads, elastics (don't really recommend it, but if you have nothing else), hemp, yarn... and wrap the area where they join to make certain that they don't fall off. This should help them knot together. Also try taking a small metal crochet hook and suck in all the loose fuzz around the area where they join. This should also join them a bit.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 28, 2006 05:38:27 PM
My mom and brother have the huge head flakes too.. and the doc is also stumped..
the only thing that works for them is Kerastase (hope thats right) shampoo..

Now I'm pretty sure that won't do dreads much good, but untill you have dreads you might want to try that.

And thats the only way you will end up finding out what works for you.. By trying every damned product out there untill something goes right!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 29, 2006 02:55:47 PM
I FINALLY got some knottyboy shampoo (joy for it being 23.95..) for FINALLY passing my exams!

It smells sooo good.. I had visions of me in the shower, for some reason with my clothes on, washing my hair all day :) and I did, and now my hair smells like mint  :D

Today was a good day


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on June 29, 2006 05:50:57 PM
my husband and i went to the christmas day Packer game last winter.... i was just putting on the free santa hat they were giving out when some drunk and crazed idiot ran past me and yelled "lookit THAT hair!!" and then yanked it as he ran past and smiled at me like a psycho.  mostly i was also sick and tired of having everyone at the little christian music coffee house i sometimes visit ask me to turn so they could take pictures of me as if i was a futtin freak show. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Hyena on June 29, 2006 06:18:39 PM
Thank you for all the tips about dread extensions with your old dreadies!
I was dreading and knotting the end of the old dreadies and it was a real good exercice to master the use of the crochet hook in a dread.

For the thin but silly hair out there: USE A CROCHET HOOK! The thinner the better, like C2. Even though I am a good crocheter, I was a lil unconfortable with crocheting my dreads. It totally worth it. (Better than L'Oreal) ;D



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peacechikns on June 30, 2006 04:32:38 AM
hey

i've been thinking of getting dreadlocks for awhile.
i was wondering what they're like to sleep on? ???
cos i'm thinking they'd be kinda like sleeping on plaits... digging into your head.
can anyone tell me?

cc


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on June 30, 2006 05:01:25 AM
Unless you have huge beads, they're pretty ok to sleep on, like little cushions of hair :)

The only thing is that if you have them real tight or have itchies it might affect sleep by a tense feeling in your scalp or by itchy head distracting from sleep.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreadful penny on June 30, 2006 05:30:40 AM
Sleeping with dreads was cake when they were short... like anything else though it takes some getting used to.
Once they got past the shoulders i found myself being aware of waking for a minute to readjust them.
If you sleep nekkid or in scanties you might find them a bit itchy on your skin if you lay on 'em too long,
and it has never failed for me that when sharing bedspace with anyone else that they have fallen victim to the 'toss the dread over your shoulder, smack your SO in the face' game ;)
also - if you have beads n'stuff in 'em, sleeping on all that stuff does take a bit of adjusting

- Speaking of which, i have an * *adult themed* * dready question/poll...
What do you chiquas with long dreads do with them if you're ahem... 'on top'
Leave 'em hang and swing, or tie 'em back?
Mine are long, loud, heavy, and dangerous - I usually tie 'em back so no one gets hurt ;)
(And sometimes I just feel a bit silly if my dreads are swingin' a bit more than I am)
Just a morbid curiosity question...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on June 30, 2006 07:22:13 AM
well I cannot answer to the "dreads and sex" question and all I can say about the sleeping with dreads question is that when my daughter washes her hair at night she wears a cotton tam to bed.  She says that it is more comfortable and it keeps her pillow from getting soaked and moldy.  I guess the tams are really handy for lots of reasons.  The boys here in Mexico don't like it when she wears a hat, I guess they like to see her "rastas" as they call them. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on June 30, 2006 07:56:18 AM
I don't even realize I have dreads when I sleep.. I just brush them out of my face and sleep... Never affected me... Even when I have beads I don't feel anything.

dreadful penny:
Me and my partner both have dreads, his are mid-neck lenght and mine are just a little past my shoulders... So I guess we aren't in the "dangerous swaying dreads" stage yet. Haha.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on June 30, 2006 11:22:13 AM
it's definitely annoying sometimes to sleep on my dreadhawk - because all of the dreads are in a narrow spot, and my head wants to flop one way or the other.  they are getting thick and sturdy now, though, and if i take the time as i am getting ready to go to sleep to sort of put them the best way, they stay there.

i am an on-topper, and they do get in the way.  they're too short to really all stay tied back.  i wish i could, though - i am slowly felting wool onto the ends until they are long enough.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on June 30, 2006 08:28:01 PM
heehee; I love how the turns discussions can take. I wish my dreads were long enough to be a problem. Though at first he said they poked his eyes while he was trying to sleep. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on July 01, 2006 05:17:10 PM
Someone mentioned earlier working at a headshop, which reminded me- I got my dreads maintained (at a headshop) last week. She made them really really tight. Felt like I was sleeping on rocks for about 2 nights. The lady who maintained them for me tied each one at the top and bottom and used a crochet hook to make em tight. I guess they don't look really natural, but they get better every day and everyone I know has been really supportive of me and my hair. (except my grandparents anyway...)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on July 02, 2006 08:07:05 PM
and everyone I know has been really supportive of me and my hair. (except my grandparents anyway...)

hahaha my normaly proper mom called me 'shitlocks' for the first few years.  she would actually make remarks like "looks like you rubbed dog poop on your head" when i was out with her in public. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on July 02, 2006 09:08:12 PM
Do you guys have any suggestions for ways to make them not mat up right against your head? I keep having to rip them apart and am worried that this will eventually ruin the base of them and make them fall off. :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on July 03, 2006 10:58:38 AM
you could tie some string around the base or even rubber bands (not the best of idea's but if u must).

also you could wrap the bases with embroidery floss for a while (looks fun and if done properly can actually help your dreads well dread up a bit, the same way the string method would)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: dreadful penny on July 03, 2006 01:16:12 PM
Hee hee, get used to that ripping... dread maintenance :)
No worries, I've been ripping mine apart for a loooong time and they're all still there.
Though you could cut them at the base, it hurts less - but I've never liked the way it looks - almost too manicured for dreadies.
They'll lock up and mat closer as time goes by, but you do need to cut 'em or rip 'em to keep them from eating each other - least I do. Weight seems to help too, like beads and such.
Find a dready or ex-dready friend to help, they're pretty sympathetic - I have an ex-dready friend who gets her dread ya-ya's out by helping me maintain mine... kinda like monkeys grooming, very soothing  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on July 03, 2006 01:24:57 PM
I liked to wrap sassys dreads with pretty floss, but for some reason she doesnt like it.  So after one time of cutting them at the base she now rubberbands them.  She likes the look better anyway, I guess a little less fuzzies at the base or something.  I keep wanting to use the flourescent rubber bands but she likes the black ones.  She says it blends better and they are not as noticeable.  My son just pretty much seperates his regularly, not too much ripping I don't think. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 03, 2006 04:17:09 PM
Just a tip... Rubber bands are shit. They'll eventually fuse themselves to the dreads like bubblegum. Trust me... Instead of rubber bands use sewing thread in your hair color which doesn't show at all. Just wrap the root with thread and make a knot. Voila.

Also like dreadful penny said... Ripping is part of dreaded life. I wouldn't suggest cutting because you end up getting more loose frizz that way and eventually end up with thinner roots. Just rip them appart... it won't do anything but seperate your dreads. No worries.
 ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on July 03, 2006 04:37:03 PM
oh yea, I cut the old rubber bands out when I put new ones in.  All I can say is that everyone has to find what works best for them.  I don't like them but ....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on July 03, 2006 06:07:00 PM
So I just wrap it around once or twice and knot it? I kept wondering if you were supposed to wrap for like an inch. Thannks for the help! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 03, 2006 06:52:56 PM


All I can say is that everyone has to find what works best for them.  I don't like them but ....

I understand that more than anyone  ;)... I often get shit on for maintaining my dreads by those who think it's unholy or something. Everyone needs to chose their own path with dreads... So if elastics work for her, they work for her. I'm just saying though... don't let your daughter (it is your daughter right?) keep them in too long because they do rot. Happened to me.... I actually had to cut a chunk out of my dread.  :'( It was a sad moment... Just trying to provide a few words of caution that's all.  :D 

jezebel7383 :
Oh yeah it's just a few turns around the root... Just wrap it till you feel it's secure enough and that's it. My wraps are hardly 1mm ... No one ever notices them... Heck I can't even see them when I look in the mirror.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on July 04, 2006 09:36:57 AM
I got an 83 cent bar of soap at Wegman's yesterday-we were visiting my grandparents-it's rare I go to Wegman's. Anyway, it says that it leaves "no drying residue", but the ingredients are- coconut soap, water, vegetable glycerin, coconut oil, and natural fragrance.

Oh, the brand is Kirk's Original Coco Castile." It says that it is "all natural, hypoallergenic, no animal by-products or synthetic detergents" and "Pure botanical coconut oil soap ultra gentle with no drying residue."

The website is www.kirksnatural.com.

Does anything on the ingredients list or anything else sound bad for dreads? The part that kind of scares me is "coconut soap" on the ingredients list. That could include anything! and bad stuff for dreddies.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 04, 2006 09:56:55 AM
Sounds alright. Maybe by "soap of coconut" they mean saponified coconut oil (like the result of the saponification process...). Sounds pretty safe to me.

I just made myself some soap with coconut oil. It works great. I found the coconut oil a little drying on my scalp but otherwise it was great. Makes my dreads feel really really clean. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on July 04, 2006 01:57:05 PM
Sounds alright. Maybe by "soap of coconut" they mean saponified coconut oil (like the result of the saponification process...). Sounds pretty safe to me. 

great, thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 04, 2006 03:25:14 PM
Try it out. You'll know if it isn't good for your dreads. If it leaves a chalk white stuff behind or if you get really itchy (even after using it for a little while) or if you notice your dreads getting really loose then you'll know not to use it.  :D (haha these smilies are weird - remind me of Uncle Sam - "We want YOU to be crafty..." hahaha)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: slb2724 on July 04, 2006 08:20:04 PM
ive had this question for a while-- how do you un-dread your locks? do you really have to shave your head?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 04, 2006 08:49:53 PM
Not unless you want to shave your head.

Many people get away with cuting off the older sections of the dreadlocks and combing out the newer growth which usually leaves people with about 4 or 5 inches of hair.

Some people say that you should just re-intergrate "normal people" shampoo and conditionner into your routine to help loosen the newer growth which will make it easier to comb out.

Now if even the new growth is rock hard, it will be next to impossible to comb anything out. So shaving the head is a must in this case.

Knottyboy (knottyboy.com) now sells a Dreadlock Removal kit which supposedly lets you keep all of your hair. I hear it works.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on July 04, 2006 10:09:55 PM
so long as you have a patient friend, you can comb em out fine.  i've been through it twice.  roomie and i had hella long dreads, cut em to our shoulders.  then spend about 10-12 hours soakin em in conditioner, spritzing them with water, and pick pick picking em apart with some strong plastic combs.  we both ended up with healthy hair down to our shoulders after the final professional hair cuts.  of course, the hair we combed had never been backcombed or anything.  it was all stuff that had dreaded in naturaly.  so maybe that helps it come out easier and healthier.  if you try to comb out dreads that are under a year old and have been waxed and backcombed, it may be impossible.  i think i've shared the pics before.  if not, and if anyone wants to see the process, let me know and i'll dig em up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 05, 2006 06:46:27 AM
I think I remember seeing that on here.

Heck when my mom backcombed my locks she kind of screwed up the front and only realized it when she had completely finished. She made the locks too small (wayyy smaller than the other ones). So she combed them out without using anything but water and a comb. Ouch. Now these were fresh 2 hour old locks which maybe why they came out so easily. Anyway if your locks are brandnew it's really quite easy. I'd say you have about 2 weeks of thinking before it gets harder to comb them out.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: paisley-sink on July 10, 2006 11:44:16 AM
well so i'm sure my questions have been asked 1,000 times on this post, and i did read/skim alot of the earlier posts but 63 pages is alot!  :D

so my locks are pretty new and some of the ones just came about naturally, i have never put any wax in them or anything, but i am starting to have problems with dandruff? i was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on dealing with that

also the maintainence i do is pretty minimal and most of my dreads have weird loopy things and are more flat than round in someplaces, is this just another stage on their way to maturity or should i be giving them more palm rolling attention or something? and would any of you guys have any suggestions for smooting them out?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 10, 2006 01:32:45 PM
Ack dandruff... my bf deals with it too.
He finds that only selson blue helps but you could also try:
apple cider vinegar rinses (do a search on www.knottylocks.tk)

rosemary water (boil a handfull of rosemary, sticks not powder, on the
stove till the water gets dark, strain and either spray or pour on your scalp)

shampoo with tea tree oil in it.


As for the flatness of your locks... well I'm not sure if you can undo flatness. I've never had a flat dread. My bf does probably because he does absolutely nothing to his locks. I'd suggest palm rolling either in the shower or while your locks are still wet. Also do you sleep on them? Keep them up in a ponytail or wear something over your head while you sleep. A tam would be great.


Now by smooth what exactly do you mean? Like getting rid of loops and such? If so go buy yourself a metal crochet hook in the smallest size you can find. Stick it through your dread and suck in the loops and fuzz.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 11, 2006 06:51:02 AM
Before I forget. The Northern Lights Festival Boreal was awesome!!! I mostly hung out at my booth but I got to meet tons of interesting people and crafty folks. I didn't get to actually do any dreadlocks there, but so many people were interested in my goods and the dreads that I ran out of business cards. Heck, yesterday someone text messaged me about setting an appointment on the 21st, but they didn't leave a number or a name and my phone reads from "unknown number". I asked around and I was told that the best you can do at this perticular festival is around $300 to $400 and I brought in over $500! Woohoo. I'm quite pleased with my first festival. I almost sold out. I have about 8 bags left.

I also unfortunately ran across one really negative situation that I seem to get quite often. Some little punk ass teenager (he was about 17 years old) comes to my booth and starts looking at my stuff (mostly handbags). He starts to tell me how he can use these to hide his "stash" which actually drove away two customers. He then persisted to ask me what happened to my hair. Obviously I knew he was just trying to get the best of me. He was black and wearing cornrowns, he knew exactly what dreadlocks were... Being a good sport I began to explain it to him. He looked at me and said "Your sexy but you need to get rid of those dreadlocks. That's a black thing, a jamaican thing, not a white cracker thing." I just ignored him because I know better, but my bf then said "Why do women in other races straighten their hair then? That's a white cracker thing isn't it? And if your too ignorant to realize that knotted hair is as natural on white, asian, indian, and native hair as is it on african hair then you're at the wrong festival" Then the kid got all up in his face and we had to kick him out of the Crafter's Village and report him to security because he was acting like this at every booth.

Just one of the many things we learn to put up with. Dreadlocks surely aren't for the faint of heart, something that I had to explain to many who were interested. I seem to get loads of racist comments. Heck I've gotten them on here before (of all places?). I also find it rather funny that people always label me as "white" when they don't even know me or my heritage. My mother's family is Ojibway and French, and my father's side is Black Foot (a native clan) and French. So therefore I'm metis (the result of my female ancestors gettin' jiggy with the european settlers). I wouldn't discriminate against someone who had a braid of sweetgrass in their home because it doesn't belong to anyone. It belongs to the earth. Just like we all do. Just like knotted hair does. I wonder why human nature likes to pick out the differences in others rather than find similarities. We all have red blood, but for some that isn't enough I guess.

I also find it amuzing that some people are ready to accept that knotted hair is a product of their ancestry alone. I've actually done some reasearch on this out of curiosity and dreadlocks are as ancient as man. Obviously prehistoric man (white or black) had matted and knotted hair, but there are tribes all around the world who sported locks at spontaneous times throughout history. Obviously in Africa (Egypt as well). There were certain tribes who lived in the mountains in china that grew locks. There are tribes in Australia that grew locks. I think that what people fail to realize is that ALL HAIR WILL KNOT NATURALLY ON IT's OWN IF LEFT TO DO SO. This obviously isn't due to a certain religion, ethnicity, or hair type.

Heck my bf is Welsch (not sure of the spelling) and his hair knots up on it's own better than mine. Race and ancestory have nothing to do with it.

Sorry for the rant. I just needed to vent a little! haha.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on July 11, 2006 09:25:45 AM
"Your sexy but you need to get rid of those dreadlocks. That's a black thing, a jamaican thing, not a white cracker thing."

There's a line I've heard before..
Why can people like you but tell you they want you with a different hair cut? How can you tell what someone will look like without their dreads? I've heard it from so so so many guys (and girls), and it's getting old.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 11, 2006 10:45:44 AM
How can someone have the nerve to say something like that... and then bring in a stupid and ignorant racist remark.

His buddies were all appolagizing for him saying that he was stupid and that he didn't know what he was talking about...

Blah I just let it roll off my shoulders. Didn't put a raincloud over my head or anything...  :D



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 11, 2006 06:46:20 PM
I had a black customer come into my store and asked me what he needed for dreadlocks. He also had a few questions on how they were done.

It made me smile, because even tho I wasn't black, he didn't feel like I couldn't help him with his hair.

I dunno.. I haven't got any racist remarks about my hair, but I live in california. There are a lot of people in my valley with dreadlocks, and about 6 that I know of are white. I think that If I lived in another state/area that I might not be as lucky to have understanding people.

It's actually the rich white people who give me funny looks. haha.

I've also had black people ask me about dreadlocks. I felt the same way you did.  :D  I mean we should all embrace each other regardless of our ethnicity.
Sudbury (my city) is a pretty laid back place I guess, but lots of the employers are quite conservative about appearances and whatnot.
Appart from at the festival, dreadlocks are a rare sight around here.

HAha I get the rich folks too with their nose up in the air... Hahaha. I've been told so many times that I've "ruined my hair". Ooh poo. I could care less what others think... That's why I still have my locks 2 years down the line.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Strangel on July 13, 2006 10:00:38 AM
Well I thought I would share my dreadlock experience...which lasted only three weeks...So this will be a short story..haha.

    I had wanted dreadlocks since the first time i saw them in 7th Grade. ( i came from a small town)  My mom said NO! they are dirty..blah blah blah...i had no reason not to believe her because i knew nothing about dreadlocks.  I got into punkrock that same year and to spite her i shaved a mohawk...(she loved it) that backfired....well i was 12 then...now I'm 19. i had done tons of research on how to take care of dreads..and decided to go for it with full support from the boyfriend.
   I had 3 friends come over and told them how to do it and they started right at it enthusiastically.  2 hours later they were complaining and getting on the computer and being very easily distracted.  then someone else showed up to help and did about 3 and quit...It took all night because of this.  heres a picture when they were nearly done....watch out..it's scary!


It took my hair about 2 days to calm down enough to even put them in pig tails...


and about 5 days to where i didn't have to restrain them with a ponytail..  I was in love with them at this point.....not to mention this was about the time i stopped getting headaches because of them.



I was very happy with them because i had seen pictures of people with locks only after a week and they didn't look nearly as nice as mine did.  well a week after getting them done i left to tour with my boyfriends band for 2 and a half weeks..Last summer during tour i hated my hair because of all the humidity and it always looks like shit. this summer was a completely different story.  humidity doesn't affect dreadlocks so i was super happy about that. heres a pic from tour..

Well by the end of tour i wanted them out.  not because i didn't like them but because i just wanted my hair back.  I'm the kinda person that cuts my hair all the time and changes it all the time and the same thing for a long period of time drives me crazy...  yea i dint know what i was thinking when i thought i could actually last with dreadlocks..
   Well anyway the day after we got back i took a long hot shower to get my dreads all nice and soft and to get all the wax out..then grabbed a bottle of conditioner and a comb and started going at them in front of the TV.  it took about 2 to 3 hours to get them all out.  so i showered again and took a look in the mirror to see how much hair i lost.  It thinned out a bit and some of it was shorter in some places but nothing a haircut couldn't fix.. soo heres the day after picture..

well I'm glad i combed them out but it was a good experience!

The End(not as short as i thought it was going to be)


I have nearly a full jar of KnottyBoy wax if someone is interested in buying it from me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: SewingLori on July 13, 2006 10:08:49 AM
I LOVE LOVE LOVE your story. I had hair down past my waist. My mother gave the same speech when I told her I wanted dreadlocks. My first year of college, I bought the wax and off I went. They were long and beautiful, but after about 2 weeks, I just wanted my hair back.

Unfortunatly, i couldn't get them all out. I had to get a haircut. Going from 40" long hair to 4" hair was traumatic for me, but I did have 2 weeks of beautiful long blonde dreads and the memories of that great hair, still make me happy. :-)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 13, 2006 05:43:33 PM
I'm glad you both shared your story...

I've got a dread appointment on the 23rd and a few more interested folks that will be calling me later this summer.

I'm almost afraid that one of my customers will come back in a few weeks and ask to take them out telling me that I never told them it was permanent. I totally emphasized the permanent factor of dreadlocks.

One should definately go into dreadlocks with a mindset that is completely aware that they are more or less permanent because even if they are only a few weeks old, there could be some serious length loss and the process of taking them out is just as long as putting them in.

Strangel :
Your dreads and your normal hair looks great!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mommabear1963 on July 13, 2006 07:40:23 PM
I had dreadlocks in 1987 or so.  Just let them come naturally.  When my friends convinced me to go back one of them very patiently combed them all out.  I did not have to cut my hair at all. 

Sassy had hair down almost to her butt when she decided to dread, by the time it was done shrinking it was abover her shoulders but is now back over her shoulders.  She has had them long enough and the bottoms are tight enough that I doubt if I will comb them out.  But reading some of the tips here has given me ideas that we will not have to shave her completely if she decides she doesnt want them anymore.  On day she was actually crying because she missed her hair.  But being here in Mexico we and her dreads are such a novelty and the neighborhood kids like them so much I think that she likes them again.  It is when we go home to hickville that she might start missing her hair again.  Oh well, whatever. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on July 14, 2006 12:06:35 AM
I love this thread and all the discussion about people's reactions in various places.

I have flat dreads on the back of my head and what helps me to get rid of them is kind of rolling them, twisting them, the same way i do every once in a while with my roots.  i don't do much maintenance beyond playing with my roots a little when they get bad, but what i do is sort of twist the whole dread (it helps to pick a direction to stick with - i do clockwise, i bet counter would be easier for lefties)and then try to use my nails and fingertips to slide the hairs all back and forth against each other.  heh.  i wish i could just show you.

I've been trying to change the direction of one of my dreadlocks for months.  it won't be tamed!  it wants to go this way!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on July 18, 2006 12:22:42 PM
Update on my 2 splitting roots: 1 of the 2 dreads that were splitting at the roots complete divided itself into 2 new dreads, leaving the biggest half almost completely unraveled. The smaller half looks like any of my other 'dreads'.

The other one split almost half of it's length, and started looping and re-joining at the roots and folding itself double (I suck at explaining). I think it looks really cool now.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 18, 2006 02:40:52 PM
Sounds awesome!!! I kind of try to leave things like this happen... I like the natural process locks take... the only thing I avoid are congoes and the only thing I do maintenance on is my roots and fuzz. I like to leave loops, bumps and bends... makes them look authentic and not all perfect.

I'd love if you can post some pics one day!!!

BTW:
I finally made soap (actually a while back, I just forgot to share). I LOVE it.... I think I'm always going to make my own dread soap now. I'll post pics another day.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on July 19, 2006 10:12:18 AM
I've been trolling through this thread trying to decide if I want to dread the current head of hair or not, and I found Naked Ninja's first post where she's decided to take the dread plunge on page three....Ahh memories!

Now for my (I hope, not a repeat) question. Has anyone dreaded Human extension hair AFTER it's already installed? I don't really like brushing my hair, and some in the back is starting it's own dread thing anyway. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 19, 2006 11:12:05 AM
Heheh yes it seems so long ago... I knew absolutely nothing and I was desperately seeking advice and got tired of waiting for someone to come along and give me a hand. I wanted dreads and knew that regardless my hair will grow back. I took a chance and I'm thankful for it. No regrets. This is why I share so much with people... because no one seemed to share much with me and I found it quite difficult when I first got my locks. I didn't know what to expect.


I don't really know anything about extensions, but unless you can keep extensions in forever, I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good idea to dread them.

I do know that people get dread extensions, but I'm not too sure about them either.

If these extensions are just attached to your hair and not your skin (I don't even know how extensions work) I'm guessing it would be fine.

Your best bet would be to go to a salon or see a loctician who knows a thing or two about your situation.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on July 19, 2006 01:10:02 PM
I finally made an apppointment to get mine worked on. The initial sit down fee is $45 and then it's $30 an hour; does that sound like a reasonable price?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on July 19, 2006 01:23:08 PM
I will definitely post pics of the weird/looped/rejoined/whatever dread. I just need to make sure my mom doesn't find out about this certain dread, she already doesn't like them when they look 'normal' (however that may be).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on July 19, 2006 02:34:21 PM
I finally made an apppointment to get mine worked on. The initial sit down fee is $45 and then it's $30 an hour; does that sound like a reasonable price?

I'm getting mine touched in august.. its €20 an hour.. a bit on the cheaper side.. It's by a lady who does it at home with the crochet and backcomb method. she's done some of my friends hair and its great!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on July 19, 2006 08:05:50 PM
Thankfully I can do my own maintenance. I would never pay a $45 dollar sit down fee plust $35/h. Seems kind of steep. Maybe I'm charging too little ($35/h and I will not let anyone pay more than $150 for maintenance, if it takes longer than $150 worth it's on me). Heck I even tell people how to maintain their own locks so they don't have to pay me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: piratasucia on July 19, 2006 09:28:19 PM
aww I got sad today and took my dreads out of their box and played with them... creepy? yes. but I don't care. Being without dreads is fun too, I guess.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on July 20, 2006 12:11:01 AM
I've been trolling through this thread trying to decide if I want to dread the current head of hair or not, and I found Naked Ninja's first post where she's decided to take the dread plunge on page three....Ahh memories!

Now for my (I hope, not a repeat) question. Has anyone dreaded Human extension hair AFTER it's already installed? I don't really like brushing my hair, and some in the back is starting it's own dread thing anyway. Any thoughts?
My hair was dreading on its own in the back and it got really bad and I had to cut it all out and have really short hair. Now that my hair is longer I want dreads to prevent it from getting dreaded in the back again.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 07, 2006 09:22:05 PM
i have a pic of my lonely dread that i stole off my friend's myspace, but i have to figure out how to re-size it to upload it to the craftster hosting... i'm computer-dumb.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 08, 2006 07:34:25 AM
Ahh... Having finally had my dreads worked on I shall now let you all enjoy pictures :P

I contemplated looking sad in the before pictures but I looked like an idiot so here's my half assed smile before front and back:



(they look very curly.. that's due to the perm and washing.. I should have never done the perm.. bad perm bad bad bad!)

And now my amazing after pictures and happy smile (no, I don't have a weird part going through the left side.. there is usually hair there we just didn't have it there):





I'm finally happy again with my dreads  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: freakigreeniiz on August 08, 2006 08:27:13 AM
ahrg!
I want hair!
I love your dreads, fckadog! And your pretty cute too! haha


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 08, 2006 09:53:03 AM
Looks great Sam!!!

And you know what... I think they looked pretty cool pre-maintenance too. I kind of like the curl... looks surfer-like.  ;) Either way they look awesome!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 08, 2006 01:42:06 PM
:) thanks, loads of people say they like the curl.. It's not my thing tho, bit too bumpy for my liking :s


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on August 08, 2006 07:24:46 PM
i dyed some of my dreads manic panic "pillarbox red"


but now its faded so much that you can barely see it


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 08, 2006 10:07:16 PM


There's my little dreaddie. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 09, 2006 01:00:24 PM
I now have 8 dreadlocks! Go me! ;D

Any tips on how to make a headwrap or how to wear one? (I feel pretty dumb asking but I have no idea how to tie one)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 10, 2006 04:41:31 AM
It all depends on what kind of headwrap you're talking about... Got any pics I can look at?

And no... there is no such thing as a stupid question, unless it has something to do with water and dreads. Hahah just kidding.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 10, 2006 06:51:03 AM
My friends are the ones with digital cameras, and we're getting together friday night, so there might be a pic then! I'm finishing my dreads today! maybe with the help of my little sister, idk.

I was talking about the ones that cover your entire head, I didn't know if they were big rectangles or triangles or what.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 10, 2006 06:55:51 AM
Like these?

http://www.phunkybrewster.com/AfricanWraps.html



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 10, 2006 07:31:51 AM
Yeah, those are the ones. Thanks for the little tute! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: paisley-sink on August 10, 2006 10:38:28 AM
just wondering if anyone had any tips or suggestions for seperating dreads that are dreaded together at the roots other than just ripping them as hard as you can  ;)

thanks


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 10, 2006 10:48:10 AM
I don't suggest cutting them..

ripping them would be my suggestion, even if you don't want to, and then wrap the roots with string.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 10, 2006 10:51:38 AM
how often should i was my brand new dreads? i still have a quarter of my head to go, but i have no help so i'm taking breaks in between!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 10, 2006 10:52:31 AM
I don't suggest cutting them..

ripping them would be my suggestion, even if you don't want to, and then wrap the roots with string.

Exactly what she said.

mayerlove :
That's entirely up to you.
I always washed once a week. Sometimes once every two weeks in the winter time.
Lots of people say you should wait about 2 to 3 weeks to wash brand new dreads, but I never listened to that. Figure out what works best for you!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on August 10, 2006 10:56:38 AM
dreads that are stuck together - you could also try conditioning the bases a little first - would probably help them come apart with less pain.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 10, 2006 10:57:40 AM
Figure out what works best for you!

Exactly!

When you feel your hair is icky just wash it (carefully). Dreads don't dread super in greasy dirty hair so washing isn't bad at all!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 10, 2006 11:04:01 AM
well the thing is i dont want to wash too soon. i'm starting soccer soon and i have a job washing dishes in a restaurant and i come home smelling like the kitchen...eww. I'll play around with it and see then! Thanks guys, you all are awesome!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 10, 2006 11:19:31 AM
I've got the perfect solution for you.

Get yourself some essential oil (either rosemary, peppermint, or tea tree... heck get all of them if you'd like - They can all be found at most health food stores) and mix 10 drops of essential oil per 100 ml of warm water and spritz this stuff on your dreads after you play soccer and after work. This should eliminate the smell completely and the best thing is that you don't have to wash it out. Also the essential oils are great for your hair and scalp. Peppermint is my fave because it smells so awesome and feels soo refreshing.

You could also use the rosemary water recipe I posted wayy back although I personally don't find it smells as nice as rosemary essential oil.

Basically all you need is a handfull of rosemary (the sticks not the powder) and boil it with some water over the stove till the water turns dark brown. Strain, put in a spray bottle and spritz this on your locks. Should mask the restauraunt or sweat smell.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 10, 2006 08:29:38 PM
ooooo, thanks!

what does sleeping in pantyhose do? i read this awhile ago...does it just keep your dreads from getting gunk like wax on your pilllowcase?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 10, 2006 08:40:58 PM
Yeah, I slept with pantyhose on my head... it didn't do anything for my hair. Actually helps my hair knot up now sleeping without anything on my hair. Mind you, my hair is pretty frizzy when I wake up in the morning now.... So I guess for beginning dreads it keeps the friz down and keeps them from coming apart.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 11, 2006 07:01:25 AM
Basically what the wallaby said... It helps to keep the frizz down. If you use wax properly you shouldn't get any on your pillowcase.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 11, 2006 11:13:42 AM
Now just because I haven't updated in a while... Here are some pics!!!

These range from around 1 year 6 months to now (1 year 11 months). This winter I dyed my dreads dark chestnut brown which faded back to my natural color. Hair dye doesn't last on my hair for some reason. Anyway just so you know that my hair doesn't randomly change color on its own. Haha.

Now just so you can all see how much they've changed and how much they've grown. Here are a few pics from way back when.

(eek...)


 



Here is me practically falling asleep on the carpet. A word of caution... never leave a camera out in the open when you're sleeping. haha



This was at the festival:


This was just a week ago. My fuzzy mess! A result from swimming 4 times a day for over a week! I love them messy too.


After a little crochet action in the car on the way back home:


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 11, 2006 12:22:32 PM
BEAUTIFUL!!!

My dread set is now complete! and I made some headwraps. I just love playing with them and making beads and stuff...anyway, amazing dreads naked_ninja!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 11, 2006 01:20:39 PM
Thanks!!!

Can't wait to see your locks!!! And I'm glad you're enjoying the headwraps. They're also great to wear while you sleep.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 11, 2006 03:22:51 PM
love your hair Rose!

I feel very bleh today about my hair.. I found that my 4 back dreads are very thin at the top of the dread due to the accidental half of dread cut loose at base.. I tried to add some felt to one and it looks better but I know that the base of the dread is still way thinner then the dread is at the end..

I'm contemplating cutting them or combing them out and redoing them, maybe stick the old ones on after a while (by any chance does anyone care to use a PICTURE to explain that cause just sewing it on looks like it would go weird to me)...
I just dont feel like having mini dreads there :(

just damn bleh bleh bleh bleh BLEH



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 11, 2006 03:53:33 PM
I'd say to give it a little time and see what happens... I'd try to grab some loose fuzz around that area and wrap it up with the root. That's what I would do.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on August 11, 2006 06:32:48 PM
  :o your dreads are so perfect...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 12, 2006 06:40:08 AM
I hope they aren't perfect... don't want them looking like I used cookie cutters.

In the second last picture you could really see that they are anything but perfect (which is how I like them) and that they all vary in size. The two dreads I used to tie them back are super skiny compared to the rest of my dreads. Also they are all kinky and bumpy. I also have these two totally random fat dreads that are wayy fatter than all my other dreads. They are kind of tucked away though. I'll have to post pics of them two. Anything but perfect... who would want perfect dreads anyway.

Also when I do maintenance... I don't try to alter the size or shape of my dreads. I don't interfere with those things that make them what they are. I like the kinks and the little loops. I used to round off my tips but now I just let them do whatever. So I have some that are really blunt and some that are really whispy. I just like to keep the fuzz a little less obvious. That's all...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 12, 2006 10:15:20 AM
There was a headwrap tute? I must have missed it. :(

Well, I went ahead and dreaded the back of the extension hair...they seem to be coming along all right. they backcombed really easilly, now I'm just lettin' them do their thing. Thanks for the "heads-up" about the locking spritz of sea salt and lime...I  smell like a salted margahrita! How often should I be waxing them? They feel all ikky after I do. (blea)

I wear do-rags(the silky kind-you can get them in beauty supply stores) to keep down on the fuzzies at my scalp. They seem to help. and dry shapmoo...it feels so nice...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on August 12, 2006 10:45:46 AM
There is no real *need* to wax them, it just keeps the frizz down. So wax it how often you like, just try not to do it daily. It builds up inside your dreads and gets all yucky. But I'm one of those people who is against wax, so yeah.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 13, 2006 07:03:47 AM
Never wax everyday... that's just horrible.
If you are going to use wax (which of course is by no means necessary) use it sparingly. Just a little wee bit on your finger, spread that on the palm of your hand and just palmroll a dread. I'd say you need about a little more than the size of one of these smilies per dread  :). You may need a little more if your dreads are really long. Also keep in mind that dreadlock wax isn't the easiest thing to wash out of your locks... this is why you shouldn't use heaps of the stuff. Of course if you use it everyday and you glob it on, it will stay in your dreads for a very very very very long time. Most people who have bad experiences with wax do so because they use it carelessly. I've known quite a few folks who've used wax (including myself and my beau) who haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. Heck I even met this one black guy who said that he used straight beeswax for the first 6 months and straight beeswax is really icky messy stuff. 

If you are going to use wax... please don't use something that is full of fillers and gooey petroleum. Petroleum is a dreadlocks worst enemy. Try to aim for something natural. Stay away from microcrystaline wax...

Waxing should only be done at the very most once a week for newbie dreads. I'd prefer to say every two weeks...

If you're using the lemon/seasalt spray try alternating by waxing one week and then spraying (daily/every second day) with the seasalt/lemon mixture.

Then again... if you don't want to... don't wax. All that wax does is hold the knots which helps keep them together during those first washes and it also helps keep things looking tidy. Your dreads will turn out fine without it... dreadlocks do not need wax. Yet another gigantico myth to add to the list. Wax, however, if used with care can greatly help in the locking process. Since it holds the knots in place, folks who use wax (properly) don't have the common unravelling that usually happens in the first couple of months which in turn helps them lock up faster. 

Anyway choose your own path. Don't use wax just because I do, and don't not use wax just because some people have bad things to say about it. Afterall people say loads of bad things about dreads and you still decided to get them right? Wax is strongly misunderstood and heavily misused. Form your own opinions on it.

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As for the headwrap tute... well it was kind of an under the table kind of thing. I never officially posted a tute anywhere. If anyone is interested just pm me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 13, 2006 12:01:58 PM
Looking great!!! Especially for only 3 months!!!  :D

One suggestion... try to stay clear of wax before you dye and/or bleach your dreads. It can actually prevent the hair dye from taking properly.

I know I posted it somewhere in this thread... I don't feel like searching for it (sorry I'm lazy today). Anyway it's a cleansing recipe that removes old buildup and dirt from your locks. I know that all you need is baking soda, water, tea tree oil, and I think there was a little vinegar involved... I'm not 100% sure on that one. Anyway basically you soak your dreads in the stuff and leave it for 30 minutes and then wash with your shampoo and all the old crud/pollution/nicote(if you smoke)/dust/dirt comes out. This would be good to do about a week before you dye/bleach your dreads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ikisstrekkies on August 13, 2006 12:21:12 PM
I am in love with your hair.

I have always wanted dreds but, i dont know if they would work well with me or not


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 13, 2006 02:14:33 PM
daiconharuko- we started our locks at the same time  :) I think yours look better than mine though. I'll try getting some photos up soon.

I don't use wax anymore, and it shows cause i've got mad frizzies everywhere. I stopped cause the wax actually made my hair really slick, making the knots come out. No good. I'm sure the problem was that I used too much, so maybe I'll try going back to wax, but using it very sparingly.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on August 13, 2006 02:42:47 PM
all your dreads are soooo nice ..i had some makeshift ones for like 3 months that i loved but i havent dreaded my hair properly because i dunno if i could do the maintenence cos im v lazy and i dunno if i could pull it off and id want mine kinda neat and skinny...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 13, 2006 04:38:28 PM
id want mine kinda neat and skinny...

That's the thing with dreadlocks... ultimately... whether you do maintenance or not... they do what THEY want. You can't really go into this "hairstyle" (dare I even call it a hairstyle) with any big expectations. If you truly love dreads... you'll be happy. If you want something fashionable that has to look a certain way... you'll hate the entire experience.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on August 13, 2006 04:52:45 PM
if you want skinny neat dreads, just do them daily (they might last for a few days) this way you can have them when you want them...  just take small sections of hair... use some product  twist them up and then i took a curling iron and just wrapped them around it to set the dread....   i used to do it to my sisters hair all the time..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 14, 2006 06:23:53 PM
Thanks for the info, Naked Ninja. I've been avoiding my locking wax like the plague because I don't like how it feels(like scratchy, slimy, seaweed: blea)

Whitetrash hero: you might want to go in for the dread extensions. They look nice for quite some time, and you can make them as thick or thin as you want.

But then, I'm a big extension advocate. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 14, 2006 06:54:29 PM
Hey no problem BambiKhantastic.

I think it's only fair for us dreaded folks (and those looking into become dreaded) to know that wax is not necessary. It's really important to see both sides of the coin. There are pros and cons to everything.

I like to share because I would have loved for someone to share with me. Then I wouldn't have had to learn by my own mistakes... I would have rather learned by the mistakes of others... HAhaha.  ;D

Also just so you know... Knotty Boy has a wax alternative called Tightening Gel. I also hear that some people go to health food stores and buy aloe gel (for hair) and use that. Aloe is safe for dreadlocks. If you know of any beauty supply stores that sell products for african type hair they have twist & lock gel that would work well as a substitute.
I've also heard good things about this stuff.. won't vouch for it though because I've never used them:
http://www.naani.com/index.html?lang=en-us&target=d66.html
http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P136318&cm_mmc=us_partners-_-Linkshare-_-datafeed-_-allpdts&_requestid=348303


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on August 15, 2006 03:59:16 AM
im getting my hair cut a lil shorter soon and maybe going back blonde...so when that starts growing out i was thinking ill try dreads then..i might aswell! i know they kinda go how they want i think thats why i was a lil hmmmming about it because my hair is crazy i just hope i can pull it off :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: ilovegoats on August 15, 2006 05:36:35 AM
So I have a Dreadhead's worst nightmare-LICE.   I just discovered it yesterday, and i attacked it with 3 bottles of nix.  Does anyybody know anything else that works well for getting bugs out of dreadies?  I want to make sure i kill them all as fast as I can cause the thought of cutting my dreadlocks makes me cry, they're almost down to my bum.
So if you can help me that would be awsome!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 15, 2006 05:56:20 AM
Holly crap... I feel for you.

Uhhhh I have no idea what to tell you.

I can say that when I was a child I got lice from school and my grandpa told my mom to use unscented and uncoloured lamp oil (you know that stuff for those indoor glass lanterns) and it worked. We had tried nix previous to that which didn't work. But lamp oil is just that... oil which may not be good for dreads.

Now lice can grow resistant to nix so I've heard. What you need to do is find a treatment thats foolproof and use it either everyday or every second day. Seeing as you will not be able to pull the knats out (I think that's what the eggs are called) you need to let them hatch and then kill them or find a product that kills both the knats and the lice.

Definately go to www.knottylocks.tk and search your little heart out. The search button is really small. It's on the right side of the screen under the "gallery" button. Search every section. I do remember reading a lice situation that ended happily. Definately check it out.

If you do get rid of your unfortunate problem (which I'm sure you will) use products containing Tea Tree Oil (Melaleuca Oil). Tea Tree Oil is a natural lice/bug repellant. Whenever I go and see my little wee cousins or find myself around children I wear my dreads in a headwrap or a hat.
Anyway I mix tea tree oil, peppermint oil, and rosemary oil all together in a spray bottle with warm water and spray my dreads everyday. Tea Tree oil is awesome for dreadlocks. 


I hear lots of folks that completely give into the lice situation and cut their locks. They are either grossed out by the fact that they can't pick out the knatts or they just don't want to put the effort into it. The empty eggs will eventually disappear and all the dead lice will wash out.

Anyway I wish you the VERY UPMOST BEST of luck. I really hope that you keep us posted as well because your story will more than likely be useful to someone else who may find themselves in a similar situation.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 15, 2006 06:20:14 AM
I couldn't help but do a search for you myself.
A product called "Delacet" seems to be the most popular. It's a natural herbal product so I guess you'd find it at a health food store. A dude on Knottylocks used it with success!

Here are the threads I found that contained useful information:
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.ffaq.t98
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.ffaq.t27
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.ffaq.t94


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Pauly on August 15, 2006 12:31:34 PM
I tried using vinegar and cayenne pepper today, i only left it in for an hour.  I haven't found any signs of life in my hair today, only the eggs which can still hatch, so i think i'll do the vinegar thing every day for a while.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 15, 2006 01:21:02 PM
MMmm....sephora. I'm using RastaLocks right now, and I smell like margaritaville all the time. Not that that's bad, mind you.

Good luck with the parasites! I had a girlfriend cute botts with alcohol, but I can't imagine it's the same thing.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 04:48:20 AM
I don't use a latch hook...
I'd like to learn how to use them as well.

 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on August 16, 2006 04:54:25 AM
I used it once to get rid of all the loose hair (only because my boss was complaining about how messy my hair was looking), it looked great for 2 days. For me, it wasn't worth all the effort... Blegh, too lazy for maintenance.

Don't know about the loose ends though.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 16, 2006 08:34:41 AM
I have one of those! and being very honest they suck ass if you have tight dreads, so they're only for babes.

you use them just like you would use a crochet hook only you have to reinsert it as you go down the dread. personally, if you have loose dreads, just use a needle and some THIN thread tied into a loop. Same idea as the latch just with the needle you can 'sew' the loose hairs into your dread.. it really is so simple.

on a different note:

Im going to use the dread removal kit on my dreads!

But wait! I'm putting them back in the next day :S

I'm really even weirding myself out with this idea but I'm not happy (lots of talking with friends and all helped me come to this conclusion) about THESE dreads... I miss my old ones, they were straight, thick, just wow in comparison to the ones I have now :(

So maybe this week I'll have normal hair for a day again  :D and get to see how the knotty boy dread removal kit works!

now I'm sad again :( yet oddly happy.. weird


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 09:58:48 AM
I wish you luck!!!!  :D

At least you're dreading back up afterwards!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 16, 2006 10:20:32 AM
Oh my crap, so the lice story gave me nightmares!!

I was looking in the mirror, inspecting my dreads(which are moving along quite nicely) when I saw a white lump on one. I was like, "huh, I didn't know I could get zits on my hair!" so, since I love doing it(gross, I know) I squeezed it, and when it popped, not only ooze came out, but a squirmy, little maggot-critter. then they started erupting all over my head, and I woke up in a total, cold sweat.

I think this is a combination of the lice-dread incident, and My Husband's sister, who went to Africa and got Botts(bugs that lay their eggs in your scalp)

Either way, I got up out of bed, and hit my head with alcohol...I couldn't sleep otherwise!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 10:34:21 AM
Hehehe sounds like something I would do...

I have a problem with paranoia... I honestly do. As soon as someone mentions lice I feel itchy and get all paranoid around people I don't know and little primary school kids.

Man was it ever a problem in primary school though. We used to have dialy lice inspections by the shcool  nurse. They'd send home at least 15 kids a day. Then they started sending information packs home with each kid and then it got to the point that all the girls had to wear their hair in a ponytail (if it was long enough) and they suggested that parents use nix on their children once a week. It was taking over like the black plague... Funny isn't the black plague spread by lice and ticks?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 16, 2006 10:36:33 AM
eek! what a horrible nightmare! And what a horrible reality to have lice! A friend of mine cut her locks off because she got lice (though to be honest, her locs were really gross to begin with, so it was sort of an improvement.)

I think I heard of something similar to botts, but its a bug that lays its egg underneath your skin, and the only clue its there is 3 little red dots in a sort of triangle around the spot. Then of course it hatches and erupts from your skin. One of my dads patients (hes a chiropractor) is a doctor, and he removed one from a lady's arm. He keeps it in a little jar in his pocket, and his kids think its the coolest thing ever. (ew!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 16, 2006 11:17:27 AM
mmmm I hate hate hate bugs.. I can't stand them!

Having lice was the worst thing ever! The lice I got we're really hard to get rid of.. I had 2 hour sessions by our ama (we had an ama in singapore, its like someone who lives with you and helps in the house and such) each night in front of the tv where she used to go through my hair and pick out the eggs and sorta kill them on a piece of tissue paper... why are kids always the ones with lice?

come to think of it.. I know tons of young kids.. I'm all itchy now..

btw, there is also a bug who lays its egg on your head, the larva hatches and goes in/under your skin and grows.. you have to cut the bugs air supply for it to be removed.. that takes a day.. u walk around a whole day knowing there's a bug dying on your head..
yuck


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 11:29:12 AM
Ewww all this bug talk is making me have shivers.

My grade 12 English teacher used to read us these letters from her nephew who was a missionary in SriLanka. In one of his letters he explained how they had these bugs that laid their eggs on people's clothing if left out on a clothesline to dry so it was more or less mandatory to dry your clothing in a dryer. Well he forgot this bit of advice and decided to make a makeshift clothesline to dry his clothes. The next day he had a really really really sore buttcheek and noticed that he had 3 huge zit like pustules on his bum. Well he decided to get it checked by a doctor and found out that the bugs laid eggs in his underwear which burrowed into his buttcheek. The only thing he could do was to let them hatch. He then named them. Ew. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 16, 2006 11:43:53 AM
"Oh yes I have pets. They live in my buttock now. See, this ones Fred, and this one's Rowan, and this one's little Cecily."

Yuck!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 16, 2006 12:45:07 PM
"Oh yes I have pets. They live in my buttock now. See, this ones Fred, and this one's Rowan, and this one's little Cecily."

Yuck!!!

Rowan runs the place. I call my ass "hotel Rowan-da!"

Can I make jokes about that?

I'll put my hair up one of these days, particularly now that the sweet, sweet photobucket widget is there!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 02:57:02 PM
"Oh yes I have pets. They live in my buttock now. See, this ones Fred, and this one's Rowan, and this one's little Cecily."

Yuck!!!

Rowan runs the place. I call my ass "hotel Rowan-da!"


Ha! Good one.

I'd love to see some pics of your locks BambiKhantastic
!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 16, 2006 03:40:10 PM
I went to a small school, and they had to close it a few times to fumigate it because the lice was so bad. It happened almost every year. :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 16, 2006 05:06:34 PM
That's insane...

Back in highschool one of my buddies decided no to NEVER throw out his lunch which ended up being left in his locker for the entire year... We ended up having a fruit fly infestation and they actually had his locker sealed off. Hahahaha!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: green monk on August 16, 2006 06:29:50 PM
ok, so ive read most of this thread...WOAH! took a while :P :D but, i love dreads and i made one tonight :) i love the little dread, we named it sunflower :P caus thats the color of the living room, now, which we painted right before i did it :) haha, very cheesy, but i like the little thing. and its wicked skinny! couldnt do a whole head of that!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/greenmonk_e/littledread.jpg

im leaving on vacation tomorrow and will be visiting lots of friends and i am considering having each of them do one, and then we will see how many dreads i have when i get home...and each will have a little memory in it!

goodness, i am a cheeseball!, well, i love everyones dreads, and i cant wait til i have a full head to show!

ps, all this talk of bugs is making me squeemish and have horrible visions :P  meh!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 16, 2006 10:22:04 PM
green monk- what a sweet idea to have each friend do a dread! Then you'd have their memory wherever you go. Also, your little sunflower looks really good! Can't wait to see you with more. 

(hypocrit for not posting her own dread photos. Soon I swear!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2006 07:17:38 AM

im leaving on vacation tomorrow and will be visiting lots of friends and i am considering having each of them do one, and then we will see how many dreads i have when i get home...and each will have a little memory in it!


What a great idea. Talk about a set of dreads that truly hold meaning...

I think you did an absolutely awesome job backcombing! A litle note of caution and/or advice though. That dread will shrink to be smaller than what it is presently... which means that it will be helluva small. The problem with really really really skinny locks are that they are more prone to breakage becaue they are so thin and they just keep getting thinner with the shrinking stage. Dreadlocks tend to be dry and dryness can lead to hair becoming brittle... In a very tiny dread this can become a serious problem. If you wanted really skinny locks like that I would definately suggest going to see a professional loctitian who has experience with tiny locks.

Speaking from experience, I don't think someone should section their hair smaller than 1 inch by 1 inch without seeing a pro. Maybe a few very skinny ones here and there is alright (as long as you realize that they may run into issues). You could always try to get the tiny ones to congo with another existing dread.  :D

This one company called Sisterlocks only deals with super tiny dreads. You can hardly tell they are dreads really... They are in Cali though and it appears that their clientele seems to only contain folks with african textured hair.
http://sisterlocks.com/PhotoGallery.html

Anyway I'm not trying to discourage you!!! I just want you to know that breakage is a possibility. You did do a fabulous job and I can't wait to see how many locks you come back from your vacation with!!!!

Good luck!



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on August 17, 2006 07:40:57 AM
My dreads are actually getting fatter and fatter with time. They were made kind of skinny (1 inch by 1 inch or smaller) and at first they shrunk. But then they've started looping and knotting a lot. After 7 months most of them are shorter but fatter then what they were in the beginning. A few might be skinnier but they're not many. My boyfriends dreads though haven't formed any loops at all and they might be a tiny bit skinnier than when I made them. I think it's different with different hair. Our dreads looks and behaves a lot different. That's one thing I love with dreads  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2006 08:29:55 AM
Yep dreads surely are unique. That's what I like about them too.

True they will get fatter... But not till after the shrinking stage. Infact some people don't experience their dreads getting fatter at all.

I remember way back there was a huge discussion on knottylocks about dreads getting fatter. Most people said that theirs never did and lots of people said that their dreads seemed to only get fatter at the tips.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on August 17, 2006 08:39:41 AM
I don't know anything about dreads (considering it, which is why I've read 55+ pages of this thread so far), but I *do* know about soap.

Soap is *always* made by alkalizing fat.  That's it's chemical definition - so forget fear of "lye" soaps, all soaps are lye soaps.  There's no other way to make soap. Also, the process of saponification makes glycerin, so any homemade soap is a glycerin soap (manufacturers often remove the glycerin to use for other things, which is why all bought soaps are not glycerin soaps).

Detergent is a different thing, chemically, than soap.  Shampoos generally contain detergents. That's what SLS is and why it's in almost all shampoos - it's a detergent.

Detergents lather better than soaps, which is why they're popular.  Soaps strip all the oils/grease off of things, which is considered particularly bad for shampoo.  If you have hard water, not only do they not lather well, they also leave mineral deposits.  We have  a well here with very hard water and soap leaves incredible amounts of mineral residues on everything.  Acid removes mineral residues.  This is why the old-fashioned conditioner (and dandruff treatment) is vinegar, which is acidic.  It rinses the mineral residues out.

A tip that is unrelated to dreads is... if you've ever had a really nasty toilet on well water, in a cabin or such, pour a gallon of cheapo vinegar in the tank and another in the toilet bowl and let it sit for a week before flushing.  Took me a couple years of living in the country on a well before I discovered that it *was* actually possible to get my toilet clean.  ;)

Back to hair... detergent is better for hair generally, because it doesn't strip all the oils out like soap does, and you don't have to futz with vinegar rinses to remove the minerals.  But... detergents are very much worse for the environment than soaps are. 

Soap is easy to make.  You have to take a few safety precautions because of working with lye, but it's still pretty easy.  Ltos of web sites have info on soap-making.  Different oils and fats take different amounts of lye, so you have to look up how much lye to add (there's calculators online). 

A lot of people (me included), use a bit less lye than needed, making what is called a "superfatted" soap.  This means all the fat or oil doesn't saponify.  There's two advantages to doing this - first, you definetly use up all the lye so there's no chance of getting burnt, and second, the unsaponified fat acts as a bit of a moisturizer so the soap isn't quite so drying.

Different fats and oils have different properties, some are more lathering, some make softer soap, etc.  You can add essential oils for scents, melted crayons for colors.  Tons of soap-making sites online have all this info. 

I do not make very fancy soap.  Before I began soap-making, I almost always bought plain Ivory soap.  So the stuff I make is just plain, boring white unscented soap. 

I make it out of bacon grease, because it's free and I'm cheap.  We feed some of the bacon grease to the chickens in the winter, because they need fat in their diet to keep them warm, but there's still plenty leftover and it can't be composted, so I use it for soap making.

If you use leftover fat like this, you have to clean the fat first.  Basically, you put equal amounts of water and fat in a pot, bring to a gentle boil, and refrigerate to let it separate.  All the gunk ends up in the water layer and the fat ends up clean.  Or you can do what most people do and buy a clean fat or oil to make soap with to begin with if you're not as frugal as I am.  ;)

I was very surprised the first time I made soap with cleaned bacon fat... as I expected it to smell of bacon.  But nope... once it turns into soap, it smells just like Ivory.  Just plain old soap. 

After making soap, you can grind the stuff and melt it into water to make a liquid soap for shampoo or to use for laundry or dishwashing.  It's good to add some borax to laundry soap.  It cleans *very* well, but it doesn't lather a lot.  For a liquid soap, you might want to make a softer soap than what I get with bacon fat. For laundry or dishes, you really need to add some vinegar to the load, and for shampoo, you definetly need to rinse with vinegar unless your water is *very* soft. 

By the way, you need soft water to make soap in the first place.  I collect rainwater in a bucket to make soap with.  If you collect rainwater in larger containers, you'd have enough to wash your hair and could largerly avoid the whole vinegar thing.  But... the vinegar isn't bad, the smell is gone long before your hair dries.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2006 09:21:21 AM
Thanks for that!  :D Really informative.

I've just recently began making my own soap because I'm quite tired of using the store bought stuff and at least this way I know exactly what's going into my soap on onto my hair. I make my soap with a combo of coconut/hempseed/castor/olive oils and essential oils (tea tree/peppermint/rosemary).


 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on August 17, 2006 09:40:53 AM
Thanks for that!  :D Really informative.

I've just recently began making my own soap because I'm quite tired of using the store bought stuff and at least this way I know exactly what's going into my soap on onto my hair. I make my soap with a combo of coconut/hempseed/castor/olive oils and essential oils (tea tree/peppermint/rosemary).

Having now read 72 pages of this thread, I am not at *all* surprised you use tea tree oil, rosemary and peppermint in your soap!  ;)  I grow rosemary and peppermint, but have never used tea tree oil for anything and shall be Googling largely due to your posts.

By the way, spearmint is way yummier to grow than peppermint.  I have spearmint, peppermint and applemint.  Every time I'm in the garden, I grab 4-5 spearmint leaves and a stevia leaf (a sweetening herb) to munch on.  Yummy.  They spread like weeds, so I keep them potted to control them as I've never done anything useful with them so don't need much.

Currently, we're in PA, but planning to move up your way in a year or two, looking at Head, Clara and Maria township, which is a bit south. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 17, 2006 01:31:08 PM
I'll have to look into spearmint... If you don't mind me asking... what is applemint?

I unfortunately don't grow herbs... yet anyway. Well I do have some garlic chives, but that doesn't really count. If I ever do grow any herbs, unfortunately I won't be able to grow any type of mints. My mom lives with me and my beau and she is allergic to mint. It flares up her asthma for some reason.

I still live to sneak some though... The stuff in the soap doesn't seem to bother her much though. I forgot to take it out of the shower a few times and she was fine. But now I keep all my minty stuff away from her.

As for tea tree... Amazing stuff.
Me and Brandon (the boyfriend) have a homebased business with a company called Melaleuca - The wellness company. Basically it's kind of like Amway (spelling?) or Avon, but the best thing about it is that their products are all environmentally sound, safe for children, as well as pets, and they almost all contain tea tree oil. Everything right down to their vitamins. Being a huge fan of tea tree oil, I jumped on the bandwagon. Brandon's rents got us into it. We don't bother people with it or anything... we just really enjoy their products and you get a discount if you sign up in the business.

I'm pretty sure you can purchase products without signing up though...
www.melaleuca.com

**I hope no one thinks that I'm trying to promote this company... I'm not. Just because I like using their products doesn't mean that I'm going to push them on everyone. I just like sharing information!!! To each his own...***  :D




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kuolema Nox on August 17, 2006 10:57:19 PM
A sort of mint with round, fuzzy leaves. I'm not sure why it's called applemint; it doesn't taste like apples. It tastes more like spearmint really. Maybe it's the smell or something; it smells a bit like apples.
We've got some in the garden, but all our herbs are pretty much overgrown and interlinked with each other (thyme 0wns everything)... I'm pretty sure there's still some in there.

It looks like this (although mine's a bit more blue-grey and fuzzier for some reason):

http://www.peoriagardens.com/images/vegherb/MintApple.jpg

**edited to remove hotlinked photo.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 21, 2006 03:30:13 PM
Alright, I finally managed to attempt taking pictures of the back of my head. I just re-tightened the roots with black rubber bands(you can see some of the stress on my scalp). I know they'll rot out, but I have such a tough time with the thread for some reason.

About my hair:
All the length is human extension. It's so processed, it dreads really easilly, and nicely. the Gal who does my hair really put a stick in my works over my wedding, and we havn't spoken since. But that has just forced me to experement more!

The bottom half is dreaded(about 3 weeks now?) the crown of my hair is undreaded human extension. The dreads are very grabby about it, so I tend to keep it ponied on it's own. WHy not dread the whole thing? I like the texture contrast, and If my hair gets any beefier, It won't fir in my helmet. :)

The brown dreads are my dabbling into double-ended dread extensions. Synthetic, and doubly grabby than the human. I have yet to perfect the smoothing/steaming process. The pink is all synth Braids, they hang to my butt.











Oh, and sallys Beauty sells this organic "dry shampoo" gel...and it feels AWESOME(which I think is mostly the alcohol in it, but seriously, it's hairgasm) I think I can re-create it with alcohol, Aloe, and essential oils, but it's not too expencive as-is, $5 or so.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 21, 2006 04:55:43 PM
Wowza!!! That's beautiful!!! I love how you have a bit of everything in there... especially the pink braids!

And about the helmet... hmm... I don't fit in my helmet anymore... and I need it to go skateboarding at indoor parks... poo...  :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on August 23, 2006 08:11:31 AM
OH - MY -GOD bambi you have the most amazing gorgeous hair!!! i love it!!! i skate without a helmet... idont know anyone who skates w/ a helmet maybe thats because of teh crazy english i dunno...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 23, 2006 09:36:13 AM
Around here... most of the better skaters wear helmets... Especially for skating quarter pipe, bowl, or mini ramp.
Also it is mandatory to wear a helmet at our indoor skatepark.

I'm not one of those "helmets aren't cool" people...



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on August 23, 2006 11:11:53 AM
Im not a "helmet arent cool" person i just dont know one person who wears a helmet, but we dont have supervised outdoor parks in this area and most kids just street skate.. i would kill for a bowl!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 23, 2006 11:17:30 AM
I can only fall off skateboards: I need to fit into my motorcycle helmet. :)

Naked Ninja: I don't know how you feel about synthetics on your head, but it would be really easy to add some coloured braids into your 'locks. They're pretty fun, and if they're longer, you ca use them to tie the rest of your hair up. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 23, 2006 01:56:55 PM
Im not a "helmet arent cool" person i just dont know one person who wears a helmet, but we dont have supervised outdoor parks in this area and most kids just street skate.. i would kill for a bowl!

Hehe I wasn't trying to imply that you were... I was just stating that I wasn't. Yeah street skating doesn't really require a helmet...
Our town just FINALLY got our outdoor park. It's quite awesome...
I couldn't find any good photo's... but this is what it looked like before it's completion.
It's quite awesome if you ask me...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/supernaut/177128497/in/set-72157594180558178/

I can only fall off skateboards: I need to fit into my motorcycle helmet. :)

Naked Ninja: I don't know how you feel about synthetics on your head, but it would be really easy to add some coloured braids into your 'locks. They're pretty fun, and if they're longer, you ca use them to tie the rest of your hair up. :)


I'm no synthetic hater... I'd love to stick a few braids in there or something. I'm kind of clueless to the whole thing though...

As for the tying thing... Thankfully my dreads are just long enough to be able to do that now. I love never having to use elastics!


Isn't this new photobucket feature awesome?



These were my pre-dreadlock skateboarding days (like 4 years ago)... I'll definately have to update on that.




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 23, 2006 03:03:37 PM
hey guys, i've had my dreads for about a year now, and I have a couple questions I would like to ask. Due to the lack of knowledge i used bees wax to dread my hair, which I found was a big nono, and now even a year later I still have wax in them, I heard that if you use baby oil it will come out, and my dreads are locked quite well so i'm not to worried about them coming out.. so will this work? Also I have a lot of little places that are not locked at all down the shaft of my locks, is there a way to fix this? Oh and also I need a natural, recipie for a locking agent for my roots, i've used wax, and other gel products in the past, just looking for something new!
Thanks

You can see the little none straight parts. I've been workign the area forever and still nothing, what do u guys think?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 23, 2006 03:28:42 PM
Hmm like pure beeswax?
I've heard that stuff is a mess to use...
I've also heard some people use it with no issues either.
Anyway... how much of it did you use? Kind of wicked that it's been able to latch onto your locks for this long.

I use Knotty Boy wax and after a few washes the stuff is gone. Maybe it's cause I don't use lots, and I don't use it often. Who knows. But even when I was ignorant to proper wax usage and was using DDHQ the wax never stayed in my dreads.

Do your dreads feel waxy? Or did you cut open a lock and see residue stuff? If they don't feel waxy... I bet it's just a residue buildup (caused by hard tap water, pollution, cigarette smoke, other smoke, lint, bad soap....)

On another note your dreads look fab. The loose parts you're talking about are common. They are called loops - some people call them buds or refer to your locks as "budding". Just a sign that things are doing exactly what they are supposed to. I have a few locks like that me-self. If it really bothers you slap a bead on it or something. You could even wrap those parts with embroidery floss, thread, yarn, or hemp. I find wrapping helps knot things up... You would think that it wouldn't, but I find that it has helped a few of my trouble spots. Really they aren't trouble spots... They are maturity spots.... haha I'm a dork I know.

As for a natural locking concoction... Try using nothing at all! Really you don't need anything to help your hair knot up. Just be certain that you are using a residue free shampoo. If you really want something to help aid in the locking though... Just mix yourself some lemon juice, sea salt, and warm water in a spray bottle and spritz away. Adjust the mixture to your liking... and don't forget that this stuff could be a tad drying which can result in brittle locks. So don't overuse it.

I really wouldn't recommend using babyoil to remove wax... That doesn't sound like it would help anything at all. Would be aweful to get that stuff out of your locks too.
I've heard of some people using that veggie wash stuff... but I won't vouch for that either.
Now I would try this. It deap cleans your locks - posted on knottylocks by KyNdMaMa:
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"This works sooo good~ and most of you probably have all the stuff available right now so try it out !~ Get a BIG bowl of warm water, mix in about 3/4 c of baking soda, 8-9 drops of tea tree oil, 2 T of lemon juice, and 2T of salt stir until well dissolved. use a squirt bottle or something to apply to your scalp and soak all your dreads real well ~ wrap up in a towel and let them sit for like 1/2 an hour or so ~ then rinse( and rinse again ). Now I dunno if I just have really dirty dreadies or something but when I rinsed my hair the water was muddy brown ~ gross!~ It deep cleans the middle of the dread I guess. I do this like once a month now


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 23, 2006 04:35:39 PM
thanks for the help. My dreads dont feel waxy at all, I havnt put wax in my hair since about 9 months ago.. maybe more, it's more like hard in certain places, hot water will not wash it out it seams, though i'm sure eventually it will, meh not to worried about it i guess, oh and yes it was pure bees wax. As for the other question about the bumos or "budding as u call it" they have been there forever and are now kinda locked in that position.. i think i didnt care enough to deal with them before and now they are there, but I am becomeing a massage therapist (ONLY ONE YEAR LEFT WOOO) and I want them to look a bit tidyer. I read about the crochet hook idea, i think I might try that out and lots of playing lol. yay toys that never go away! Naked_ninja, you know your stuff, i'm impressed!
I know quite a bit too but thought I would ask other oppinions as well, gotta love that since i dont know any others that have dreads.
As for not needing anything to help the hair knot, thats not the case for me, my hair doesnt want to knot in a lot of places, so it takes a lot of back combing and teasing and if there isnt someting keeping it in place and stuff t will come undone. Funfun.

The regement i use to do for redoing regrowth:
-Backcomb and twist, play, etc
-Wax everyday completely cover and twist for one week
-2nd week wax every other day
-3rd day wax every other day
- 4th week every 3rd day,
Then wash the hell out of it while still rolling and playing till wax is gone and growth is knoted.

my prob with this was that my hair grows really really fast and by the timw that was done, I would have to do it again it seemed, so I gave up for a while and now i'm redoing it again without wax and lots of plying and some product. we'll see what happens.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on August 23, 2006 05:16:45 PM
i have some hard places in my 6-month-old naturally locked dreads and have never really waxed - same as there are loopy loose places, i just have some super-tight extra-dreaded places - is it possible that this is all the problem is?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 23, 2006 06:01:18 PM
no, there is deffinatly waxin there lol, but there are some places that are loose and others that are tight... who knows


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 23, 2006 06:35:16 PM
Dude that is sooo normal. That isn't wax... that's... well... knots!!!
I kind of wouldn't doubt it if you still had some wax residue in there somewhere though... that's a lot of waxing you were doing. Wayyy more than necessary. But then again, when we don't have the information we can easily make mistakes. The best thing about dreads is that they stand up to our abuse quite well (most of the time anyway)... and new growth presents to us a chance to make things right again. Your old locks become somewhat of a testament to what you shouldn't and should do. This is what I've learned along the way.

I strongly advise that you not wax daily. Especially considering your dreads are 1 year +. You can totally ditch the wax at this point (not that it was ever necessary to begin with). If you want to wax, I suggest you buy a wax blend... Not pure beeswax. Word on the street from those pure beeswax using folks is that it should only be used in the early stages. I think you're past that now. From experience, you really don't need anything but a crochet hook and some thread to clean up your locks and make them look a little more, shall we say, conservative. If you want to use a wax, by all means do so, but not everyday. Once a week at the very max. At this point though, I think that is still way to much. Why don't you try a locking gel? Knotty Boy (www.knottyboy.com) sells a tightening gel as an alternative to wax. Never used it, so I can't give you any feedback.

Also I totally understand what your saying about having to give your hair a little push for it to knot. My hair was like that in the beginning, but after a while it just gives in.

In case anyone is wondering... It is completely normal to have between 1 to even 3 inches of un-matted (undreaded, unknotted, whateva) hair at the roots of your dreads. This doesn't mean that your hair isn't knotting... This is normal.

Also a little note of caution about your regiment... you may have been breaking more hairs than knotting... Ditch the comb (unless you are tackling your tips)... My best advice is either to leave it be, or wrap your roots. I've had awesome success with doing this, and a few others on this board have as well. To do this all you need is a sewing needle and thread in your hair color (or if you want to be phunky about it get fluorescent pink or green for all I care).

1) Thread your needle (The needle is only there to facilitate the process seeing as thread is kind of hard to wrap holding it between your fingers. You aren't actually sewing anything).

2) Secure the root of your dread using your fingers, an elastic, a clip, a bobby-pin... Whateva works for you. Make sure you also secure all of the loose hair and fuzz that should belong to that root.

3) Wrap the thread around the root tightly.

4) Make a knot. To do this you can stick the needle through the root and then make a knot, or just make a knot without doing that... Whateva. 

5) Leave this thread in place for approximately 2 to 3 months (may take longer for some people). You'll notice that all of the hair afer your little wrap will be knotted.

Using this method cleans up your locks and also helps to strenghten your roots by ensuring that all of that loose fuzz is where it belongs.

I've tried everything else (root rubbing, backcombing, twisting...) nothing works like this. Another note of caution... too much root rubbing can lead to breakage.

Also if you are using a crochet hook, make sure it is very small and made of metal. It's easy as pie.

1) Stick the crochet hook in your dread.

2) Wrap the loose hair around the hook.

3) Pull the hair in with the hook.

4) Repeat and try to insert the hook in different positions. 



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 23, 2006 06:47:47 PM
I clean up my extensions pretty much the same way. I cheat and use rubber bands, because for some reason I just have a terrible time with the thread. It makes everything nice and tight against your skull, and that feels good. :)

The extra space is actually pretty nice, since I'm a bleach blonde, and destroy any hope of my hair having a normal life. When the hair gets a little long, I bleach it while it's still a little loose and the bleach can penitrate, then I tighten everything up a few days later. Works pretty well for me for years now.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 23, 2006 08:23:29 PM
first off, i said that USE  TO BE my regement, not anymore, not for quite some time.
Second, it is wax, 'cause i tryed combing a bit of an end out to see if it was wax or what, and you'll never guess what it was, wax! I know the difference, I've had dreads for a year now.
Thirdly, Every hair type is different, yes my hair will knot, but not the way it should if i just leave it. Yes I do do the elastic around the root thing, but i also have to tease it to make it do what I want, if i left it in there 3-4 months I might as well leave it in there all the time, which i will not do because i think it looks bad. I had my dreads for 6 months and had it grow practically 6 inches, so that method doesnt really work for me. As for not needing that much wax the hairdresser that did my dreads was taught by a woman in africa who told her that that's the way to do it, she told me to do it that way, so i did, and I still have aweosme dreads either way.
Trial and error is right though, and we all find the ways that we like to make our own dreads to our own liking, and how we find it easiest.
I do thank you for the suggestions, eventhough I already said that I dont wax that much anymore, i guess i should have worded that differently.
I think it's neat that you know so much about dreads, and thought it was kool that you knew about recepies for things, but i'm tierd and pissy (sorry btw) and didnt want to be told how to take care of the things I have had for a year. Suggestions are great though.
Also I am not using a comb, I am using a regrowth brush, type comb. No broken hairs so far, and I have used it quite often. SO it's not going in the rubish bin yet, or ever probably, it's the best thing ever for knoting up the regrowth and ends. Try one sometime, you'll see.
As for the crochet hook idea, I have heard of it before, but never attempted it myself, though its not a hard concept to figure out how to do it.
I am sorry for the bitchyness, and horrible english that this message probable contains, but once again i will explain that I am tierd and am off to bed.
Yell at me and I will tell you I am sorry again tomarrow, I shouldnt come on the internet at night....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 23, 2006 08:36:28 PM
well, that's what the "edit" button is for, I suppose.

I keep meaning to get one of those little crochet hooks. I asked my liqour store owner what he uses, and he tried to explain it to me, but couldn't remember. I'll get a pic of his dreads, and his recipe next week. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 23, 2006 09:54:59 PM
BambiKhantastic :
Bah there is nothing wrong with using rubber bands and cheating...
The only problem is leaving rubber bands in for a long time...

As for not needing that much wax the hairdresser that did my dreads was taught by a woman in africa who told her that that's the way to do it, she told me to do it that way, so i did, and I still have aweosme dreads either way.

Do you have african textured hair?
If not... I take it seeing as you have a DIFFERENT HAIR TEXTURE a method used on african textured hair may not work for you. I also never said you didn't have awesome dreads... I find them quite awesome.

You know... wax companies also tell people to glob on their product because that's the way they say it should be done... and really that does no good whatsoever. Well it does their bank acounts a lot of good...
Contrary to popular belief... Wax does not form knots. Wax does not help knots form. Wax does nothing but hold the knots together in those early stages to keep your dreads from unravelling during those first washes.
Wax can also help to moisturize dry locks.
Globby stuff in general (including all forms of gel, wax, and even beeswax) will do nothing but HINDER the locking process when used in excess which may be the reason why you need to fiddle with your locks so much to begin with.
Not to be rude... but it's common sense. A hairdresser above all should know this. I won't even get into the horror stories I've heard about hairdressers and dreadlocks.

Also, I was merely providing you with information... I was not telling you what to do. I don't give out orders or commands. Whatever people do with that information is entirely up to them. I could care less if you turn around and smother your locks with toothpaste when you finish reading this... they are you're locks and you are entitled to do what you will with them. (actually I probably would care a little...)

hey guys, i've had my dreads for about a year now, and I have a couple questions I would like to ask. Due to the lack of knowledge i used bees wax to dread my hair, which I found was a big nono, and now even a year later I still have wax in them, I heard that if you use baby oil it will come out, and my dreads are locked quite well so i'm not to worried about them coming out.. so will this work? Also I have a lot of little places that are not locked at all down the shaft of my locks, is there a way to fix this? Oh and also I need a natural, recipie for a locking agent for my roots, i've used wax, and other gel products in the past, just looking for something new!
 I've been workign the area forever and still nothing, what do u guys think?

If you read your post carefully... you clearly ask for advice.
Next time you don't want anyone to give you advice... Don't ask for it! Simple as that my friend.

Don't want to be rude... but there you have it.... in a nutshell to boot.

Just another 2 cents... Just because you've had your dreads for 1 year, does not mean you know all there is to know. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have asked those questions if you did. Heck I'm still learning... people who have their locks for 10 years are still learning. This thread is still going because we are all still learning from each other...

I won't hold your rudeness against you... just so you know. I'm a better person than that.  :D

Have a good night ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on August 23, 2006 10:51:50 PM
smoker <3 naked ninja  :D ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 05:48:41 AM
it's not just knots because the parts are also pliable , if i pick at itI can get some off. ok, i'm not going to argue about this anymore. IT'S WAX! I just wanted to know if nayine had good ways of getting it out, other then soap and water?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 06:21:52 AM
I have no problem with the hard parts, as I thought that's what dreadlocks did... get hard.

My bottom hair is pretty hard.. and I haven't waxed them since a week after I put my dreads in.


It is normal. Don't worry. The more your hair knots, the harder it gets. Technically dreadlocks aren't dreadlocks till they get hard.

smoker:
I heart you too.  :-*

irish_chicky:
Actually... I just thought of something.
Knottyboy (god damn I should just be their spokesperson) has a dreadlock removal kit that contains a deap penetrating shampoo that takes out all the wax. That's exactly that it's made for. If you bought that and only used the shampoo you'd be all set. Don't use the conditionner unless you want to try and be rid of your locks though.

Quote
Using the natural properties found in citrus peel, this gentle yet powerful shampoo dissolves Knotty Boy Dread Wax in dreads and softens them for easy removal, while hemp seed oil, grapefruit seed extract, and oat proteins restore moisture and nutrients that are essential for healthy, soft and great-looking hair.

http://www.knottyboy.com/shop/dreadlock_removal_kit/knotty_boy_emergency_dreadlock_removal_kit/

Knotty Boy wax is beeswax based... so this should work.
Fckadog used it and said that the shampoo doesn't remove your locks, it just cleanses all the crud out of them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 06:42:01 AM
hmm, do u think there is a recepie for  homemade shampoo that whould do the same thing? I dont like buying store bought stuff very often. all about eco friendly lol.... oh and btw, i'm sorry about the other post guys, as I said before.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 06:52:49 AM
oh and also about your other post, sorry i pissed you off lol, i was in a crappy mood too, always am when im tierd, i talk out my butt. I did ask for advice, and reading over your old reply I know that you only ment well and were only trying to help. please forgive me :( *hugs*?
anyways about the african woman teaching my hair dresser she tought her how to do it on all hair types, not just afro americans. Oh well, whatever happened in the beginning of getting my dreads is over now.
I never ment to imply that you didnt think my dreads werent awesome, and I"m not saying that you think they are, i was just sayig that I think they are awesome lol. Also I dont think I claimed that I know everything... though I couls be wrong, but I deffinatly dont now it all about dreads, as you said it is a continuous learning process. I did know what you commented about the wax though, and what it does. It would be inpossible for it to form knotes.
Oh well my wax days are over, like i said I havnt used it in over 9 months now, so no more talk of waxing being bad, i know this already lol. Though it is good for beginners to know.
I really do appreciate all the advice though, once again I will no longer post stuff at night time lol


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 24, 2006 07:06:14 AM
ok.. not going off making more issues here but:

wax is not bad.
atleast not in all cases and used in MODERATION
this has been said before and it is still true.
and it is ALWAYS different for people. some need it, others don't

off of that subject now

irish_chicky, you want something to remove your wax right? well what Naked Ninja said, the knotty boy dreadlock remover kit shampoo is great, dreads are just wax free and it takes out more dirt and grime than the regular shampoo does.

if you wont want a store bought whatnot then i suggest you use something with a high acidity like vinegar or even better lemon juice.
you know how when you wash dishes you dishwashing detergent dissolves the grease? same idea only with some added soap.

if you go a hell of a lot of pages back Naked ninja also posted a recipie for deep cleansing dreads, you could do that too, might help get rid of some wax too.

with all of this, warm water, as hot as you can handle will always help to 'move the wax around' if not out of your dread

and finally:
if none of the suggestions we make will work then this is whats left:
dish washing soap
i know it sounds awfull but hell, it does the trick. but you might want to condition your dreads with aloe afterwards so they dont go brittle!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 07:20:36 AM
ah, that's a good idea, not sure i want to put dishwasging liquid in my dreads though, resedue gelore lol. Might try finding i homemade product on the net or something that might work though. thanks Fckadog.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 07:24:17 AM
Knotty Boy is eco friendly. You can even pay extra to get eco-friendly packaging. It's only a dollar extra. Also half of that dollar goes to their fund for sponsoring children from underprivilaged countries.

I quite like Knotty Boy... They are an all-around good company in my opinion, also they are Canadian... and I quite love supporting home-grown companies. Don't get me wrong, if Knotty Boy was anywhere else, I'd still be supporting them because I like their products.


ok.. not going off making more issues here but:
wax is not bad.
atleast not in all cases and used in MODERATION
this has been said before and it is still true.
and it is ALWAYS different for people. some need it, others don't

Which is exactly what you and I have been repeating for 70+ pages. My thoughts exactly. HAhaha
Unfortunately most people don't get the whole "moderation" bit about wax usage though. Then they run into trouble...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 24, 2006 07:26:24 AM
i don't know about dishwashing liquid having residue..
I mean, you wash plates with it (among other stuff) so would my food be touching chemicals and fragrances and stuff i'd rather my food not be touching?

anyhow, i have a simple solution is the dishwashing stuff would leave a residue:
wash it with a residue free soap
reason:

soap a leaves a residue, if it is the washed with a different soap (soap b) it will remove soap a's residue because soap b is made differently and sorta wants to be king of it's own residue and will kill of soap a's residue to put it that way

now im sounding like weird, but I hope you get the point


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 24, 2006 07:34:07 AM
ok.. not going off making more issues here but:
wax is not bad.
atleast not in all cases and used in MODERATION
this has been said before and it is still true.
and it is ALWAYS different for people. some need it, others don't

Which is exactly what you and I have been repeating for 70+ pages. My thoughts exactly. HAhaha
Unfortunately most people don't get the whole "moderation" bit about wax usage though. Then they run into trouble...

:)
I know when I first had dreads..
I had just washed them for the 1st time and thought they needed a wax even tho they were still wet.. i ended up with ulta thin sticks of wax sprouting out of my head :)
needles to say I washed the same day!

but wax is something that needs to be well taught
you use it for a bit of fluff control and ever so slightly to keep them in place when you've just backcombed them
the older the dreads the less wax they need (like for dryness at times)does not mean the younger they are the more they need

simple rule: never put more than about a smarties worth of wax (and wax.. DREAD WAX with no petrolatum and such) in your dreads unless they are longer and thus need more to spread it out

sticky dreads are not going to lock up or feel good to you or others and on top of that you can get outbrakes (zits) from using too much because wax sticks oh so well to your skin


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 07:40:09 AM
If I was to use any type of dishwashing soap it would probably be Sunlight. My mom even uses Sunlight on our plants... the soapy Sunlight water is good for them supposedly... she hasn't killed any plants yet so she must be right.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 07:48:56 AM
i don't know about dishwashing liquid having residue..
I mean, you wash plates with it (among other stuff) so would my food be touching chemicals and fragrances and stuff i'd rather my food not be touching?

anyhow, i have a simple solution is the dishwashing stuff would leave a residue:
wash it with a residue free soap
reason:

soap a leaves a residue, if it is the washed with a different soap (soap b) it will remove soap a's residue because soap b is made differently and sorta wants to be king of it's own residue and will kill of soap a's residue to put it that way

now im sounding like weird, but I hope you get the point

residue is left behind with a scent, chemicals, anything really. A scent is a resedue because it is left behind in the hair, or whatever it is used in to make things smell good. most of it isnt bad for you, and you wont see visible resedue, but its there. Dont worry abotu eating it lol.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 24, 2006 07:55:57 AM
i know that :) just being silly as usual

but was just making the point that the one soap rules out the other so really washing with dishwashing liquid isn't really harmfull if you only do it once or twice


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 24, 2006 08:13:01 AM
oh, i see what u mean lol, it might work, i'll see what i can dig up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kenners on August 24, 2006 10:01:41 AM
Righto, I've been pondering for a far ole while: The loose fuzzy hairs that manage to escape from formed dreads... could you needle felt them back into the dread? Or am I just being stupid?

I would just just try it, but oh yeah I haven't got dreads (I'm planning on getting some put in within the next few weeks/months... but finding someone I trust enough to help me put them in is proving challenging).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 10:11:25 AM
I've neard of some people needlefelting their locks...
I've also heard that it can shred hair too... which isn't a good thing...

I know nothing about it personally though.
Someone on here might.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 24, 2006 10:35:44 AM
I remember posting something on needle felting some roving in your hair but i wouldnt suggest doing it to your own hair..

muchos breakage


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on August 24, 2006 11:09:20 AM
i have needle felted my dreads, and needle felted roving into my hair.  you have to do it gently to avoid breakage (my hair is pretty fine) and it works more on them as they are forming than on loose fuzzies - it's hard to get the needle to grab what you want when it's just a few random ones.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Kenners on August 24, 2006 12:12:02 PM
Ah yes, that all makes sense... You've quietened one of my many rponderings!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 24, 2006 12:30:14 PM
Has anyone tried the dread teas on KnottyBoy? I seem to be getting a lot dandruff and am having a hard time calming it down.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 24, 2006 12:51:47 PM
The only real problem I have with wax is how slimy I feel, no matter How little I use. Althought I'm beginning to doubt "the secret Jamacian recipe."

I've been using swimmers shampoo...the stuff designed to strip chlorine and chemicals. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 02:02:43 PM
I'm pretty sure the knot teas are made by enchantedsoapworks...
Even the folks on knottylocks were giving the stuff praise... They are a tough crowd.
Haven't tried them me-self though.  :)

I'd go get a bottle of selsun blue and use it once a week till the dandruff is gone... then use it once a month or something.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 24, 2006 05:54:55 PM
Guess who has new photos!
me.
And photos of my dreadums no less.

The back. Sorry for the shoddy lighting, I live under my bed. I have 2 'un-dreads' back there. I'll get to em soon.

Again under the bed. This time I discovered the flash on my camera. Top of my head, many many many frizzies!

Pretty little bead I got for a quarter. I also have a glass bead in the back of my hair, and a metal nut.

Me being arty with the camera and the rope lights. Not so much of my hair, but you can see all the fuzzies in the back.
And... its not my hair, and I'll take this one down if its too off topic for ya, but this is my new home!!!


See the black tulle curtain below? Thats where I live when I'm not in class.


Ok, a couple things about my hair now.
I had them maintained/ done professionally I think the middle of June. Since then I haven't touched them. I don't mind my extremely unkempt look (college student, hello.) so I'd appreciate no 'you should do maintenence' comments. The new growth (about 2 inches now, my hair grows fast) is knotting up nicely on its own, but the bottoms are fringy and silky smooth. So I have a plan!!
My super dooper plan- Wrap my hair in black and red boondoggle! (lanyard lace.) School spirit, plus I did a test lock with some purple boondoggle, and it helped it stay tight and knot up alot, plus I like it better than thread, and you use less of it because it's thicker, and plastic (vinyl?), so it wont rot out or get icky. So, pictures of that will come in a couple weeks when I can get to a craft store.

Overall, I'm very happy with my hair, dispite the lack of organization. And people still give me high-fives and call me dreadlocks, so its all good ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 24, 2006 07:21:12 PM
Awesome locks wallaby!
I would never tell anyone that they should do maintenance. Locks were never ment to be perfect... Heck when I do maintenance all I do is get rid of fuzz, I don't try to alter them or anything.
I love to see dreads that are on the natural side... It's just awesome to see what our hair can do all on it's own isn't it. Maybe I'm just dorky that way... but I find it cool.

My beau's dreads are a beautiful mess too and I love them sooo much. Your locks remind me of his.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/S0ULDIER/brandon1.jpg

I know it's rather hard to tell... but he has some real glorious locks at the back of his head and a few really really nice ones here and there. They are all kind of tucked away under the unknotted hair and fuzz. It's absolutely amazing to see the progess they do though. I remember when I first backcombed his locks... they were only about 2 inches long and stuck straight up in the air. Looked like a really nasty spiked hairdo. Haha, they've grown lots since then. His locks are going to be 1 year old soon. He waxed once or twice... and he hasn't done a thing since.

His boss always takes a stab at him whenever he can though. He likes to joke around but he doesn't care that Brandon has messy hair. All he cares about is his skills. Not too often you meet employers like that around here.

Anyway he does absolutely nothing but wash. Ocasionally I catch him trying to see if his dreads can reach his nostrils or his mouth... but that's about it.

I applaud anyone who can just sit back and enjoy the ride... Those dreads truely become a testament to your patience as well as your acceptance and willingness to let things take their own course in their own time. I wish I had such liberties... Kind of jelous really...  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 24, 2006 07:54:51 PM
Hey wallaby, I like your den. :)

Before Mr.Khantastic came along I dated a fella who had a full set of extensions in that lanyard plastic stuff...It works just fine! It was a little weird to wake up to it sticking to my face all the time, and he said it was pretty warm at times(since plastic can't breathe!) but it sounds like you're wrappping dreads in it, as opposed to letting the ends fly free(which is super cute too!)

Let us know how it works out!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 24, 2006 09:15:32 PM
Naked ninja (I'm so sorry I forgot your name!)- Your bf's hair is so lovely! Haha, people try to stick my hair up my nose too :P

BambiKnantastic- (your name isnt really bambi, is it? cause thats my moms name.) Thank you. I like my den too. I've seen the 'cyber dreads' with the lanyarding and plastic tubing and all. Sort of an inspiration for wrapping my hair in the stuff. Definentally a radical look.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on August 25, 2006 10:28:54 AM
Bambi's not my real name, but everyone calls me that. I tried to get it changed when I got married, but they weren't having any of that. :( There was something about Amy Nicole Bambi Wendt Hendricks that they didn't like. The Jerks.

Cyberdreads are superfun. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on August 26, 2006 08:32:46 PM
If you do know your dreads are full of wax, baby oil will get it out.  Wax will dissolve in baby oil.  You'd probably need an awful lot, and have to soak it quite a bit, and it's not at all a "natural" product.  But if you soak in baby oil, that will dissolve wax. 

It is going to leave your dreads really greasy, but the next few washes ought to get the grease out.  I'd be considered that the excess grease might unknot you some though, just like a lot of conditioner would. 

Soap and water will not do it.  Wax will not dissolve in water, even soapy water.  Ever try to clean up candle spills?  Wax is very nonpolar so you're not going to get it out with something polar like water.  It's basic chemistry stuff.

If you want to experiment, melt a bit of wax on a plate or something and let it harden.  Try soaking it in baby oil and see how long it takes to dissolve.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 27, 2006 09:29:10 AM
really tho, the wax in dread wax is quite a bit softer than candle wax, and its not as compact as a candle.. soap and water will put a dent in it, you just need the right kinds


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 27, 2006 10:33:59 AM
really tho, the wax in dread wax is quite a bit softer than candle wax, and its not as compact as a candle.. soap and water will put a dent in it, you just need the right kinds

True. Candlewax has a totally different consistency. Like you said, dreadwax is creamy... and if it feels anything like a candle, I wouldn't use it. With the wax I use, if I put a little in the palm of my hand and rub it, most of it gets absorbed by my skin.
I've never used anything but my regular soap and water to wash out dread wax... and I've never had a problem. After about 2 washes it's all gone, but I think pure beeswax is a lot harder to get out.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on August 27, 2006 11:26:01 AM
really tho, the wax in dread wax is quite a bit softer than candle wax, and its not as compact as a candle.. soap and water will put a dent in it, you just need the right kinds

I know there are water-soluble "waxes" sold for dreads. 

But the original poster said beeswax, which is a regular old wax.  And it's easy to buy beeswax candles to experiment with directly, ya know?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 27, 2006 11:41:05 AM
mm..
My wax said 100% beeswax.. it never is..
I'm sure dread wax is a mixture of beeswax and oils/fragrance cause regular beeswax is *if i remember correctly* too hard.

I wouldn't use 100% beeswax for anything but wood and candles


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 27, 2006 12:10:50 PM
i used 100% pure beeswax. melt it in a pot and apply. I heard about the baby oil from a friend, but i'm to afraid to put it my hair due to the fact that it may take out some of the knottyness. oh well, it will either come out eventually, or not, doesnt bother me that much, it's not that noticable anyways.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 27, 2006 12:15:07 PM
 :o melt and apply???

dread wax should be meltable in your hands not in your pot..

why do I have the feeling that something went wrong here?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 27, 2006 05:11:58 PM
:o melt and apply???

dread wax should be meltable in your hands not in your pot..

why do I have the feeling that something went wrong here?


have you ever seen beeswax? Its a block, ppl use it to make candles. Nothing went horribly wrong, it just the way it is applyed. Oh well, forget i asked the question, since I'm only getting the same replys of beeswax is bad from ppl, and is getting annoying, so on to the next dread problem.
Thanks to those eho tryed to help though, I'll just have to deal with it I guess.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on August 27, 2006 06:14:03 PM
With your recurring attitude, I'm surprised anyone keeps answering your questions  :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 28, 2006 04:52:00 AM
wow, that time i didnt even mean it to me atittude ridden.... If i said it to u in person i think it would sound different. Thats teh thing about the net, you cant hear the person and loose a lot in the translation. Either way, i think i am just going to leave the dreads as they are, I've lived this long with them, I can do it for life lol

Does anyone here make accessories for their dreads, like beads, wire etc. If they do i'd love to see them, I dont make any myself but I love to see others!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 28, 2006 05:33:50 AM
:o melt and apply???

dread wax should be meltable in your hands not in your pot..

why do I have the feeling that something went wrong here?


have you ever seen beeswax? Its a block, ppl use it to make candles. Nothing went horribly wrong, it just the way it is applyed. Oh well, forget i asked the question, since I'm only getting the same replys of beeswax is bad from ppl, and is getting annoying, so on to the next dread problem.
Thanks to those eho tryed to help though, I'll just have to deal with it I guess.

look
I DIDN'T say it was bad!

I ASSUMED u used real actual candle making antique furniture waxing beeswax

not the stuff you should put in your hair

DREAD wax, the stuff that has beeswax in it, but is hand meltable, that comes in a jar, says the word hair on it somewhere, you can't make candles out of this type of wax, I can go on,  I won't

Leave it at this, from what I get from your info is that u used actaul beeswax and not the stuff made WITH beeswax that goes in your dreads.

I get it if you feel a bit bleh about this al (whatever this all is) but we're really here to help, and this ends the convo for me

now u asked about dread accessories:
go to the search option in craftster and search for the "dreadlock swap"
you can see the stuf we've been making for eachother there


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 29, 2006 05:43:26 AM
Wow, we have some severe wax hostility goings on here.
In my own marsupial-type opinion, if it works for you, do it. beeswax is an entirely natural substance people. Thinking about it, the worst that could probably happen is that the dreads have some wax lingering in them a couple years down the road. And from the sound of things, irish_chicky isn't dipping their dreads like candles in the stuff. I'd probably use beeswax over the knotty boy stuff if I decided to go back to waxing, because its less slimy, in my opinion. Thats all it is guys- an opinion, a personal preference.

Now, so you guys can wag the proverbial finger at me.

I use hairspray in my hair!

It is literally the only thing that will make my hair knot up and stay knotted. I use bar shampoo, but when I feel like I'm getting some build up, I use anti-res poo. And thats that. Be at peace friends, we share some amazing hair here, reguardless of methods we use for keeping it amazing.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 29, 2006 06:37:06 AM
thanks the wallaby... hairspray eh? I never thought of that, maybe i'll try that method sometime. How long have you been useing hairspray to keep your dreads knoted?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 08:12:38 AM
Wow, we have some severe wax hostility goings on here.
In my own marsupial-type opinion, if it works for you, do it. beeswax is an entirely natural substance people. Thinking about it, the worst that could probably happen is that the dreads have some wax lingering in them a couple years down the road. And from the sound of things, irish_chicky isn't dipping their dreads like candles in the stuff. I'd probably use beeswax over the knotty boy stuff if I decided to go back to waxing, because its less slimy, in my opinion. Thats all it is guys- an opinion, a personal preference.

Now, so you guys can wag the proverbial finger at me.

I use hairspray in my hair!

It is literally the only thing that will make my hair knot up and stay knotted. I use bar shampoo, but when I feel like I'm getting some build up, I use anti-res poo. And thats that. Be at peace friends, we share some amazing hair here, reguardless of methods we use for keeping it amazing.

That's cool. Everyone is entitled to do what they want... We aren't the dreadlock police... No one is being burned at the steak here.
I just don't appreciate people asking for help and complaining about their situation then reeming out on those who are providing advice and then saying that they love their hair like it is. Well if they love it like it is they shouldn't complain. Period. 

I don't want to start a huge debate or fight, but you said you would use beeswax over knotty boy because it is natural, yet you use hairspray. Dude... you contradicted yourself. 

Knotty Boy is 100% natural. I wouldn't praise the shit if it wasn't. I used to use DDHQ but switched over because Knotty Boy's wax is natural.
Ingredients:
Beeswax, Certified Organic Hempseed Oil, Avocado Oil, Kukui Nut Oil, Jojoba Oil, Shea Nut Butter, Vitamin E Oil, Walnut Extract - in the dark wax

I won't even go into what's in hairspray. Also if you are using an aerosol spray be aware that it is bad for the environment. But if you feel it works for you, do it. I won't tell you otherwise.
I will tell you though, that if you did use a proper shampoo or shampoo bar you wouldn't need something to hold your locks together. Regular bar soap generally is filled with moisturizers and artificial scents... which, you guessed it, leaves behind residues. Residues in turn, prevent knots from forming or holding.
 


On the topic of beeswax and wax:
People have always had a love hate relationship with dread wax. People usually hate wax because it stays in their dreads for a long time. This is usually due to misuse of the product, or the amount of beeswax in the product. Beeswax is found in all dreadlock waxes, but using pure beeswax is very different. It will stay in your dreads. It is not water soluble. If your dreads have a core of beeswax in them, there are tons of bad things that can happen. First and foremost, it will begin to attract foreign matter. The wax can also keep your dreads moist longer after showering/swimming which can result in a bad mold problem. Also the wax isn't allowing your hairs to move around freely to form knots which means your hair is not dreading itself. It will require more assistance, and foolishly most people tend to use more wax in these circumstances, believing it will cure their problem. If anyone dares to say that these things aren't a big deal, I'd love to hear your opinions when you do encounter one or possibly all of these issues.
The thing that almost everyone neglects to realize or tries to disprove is that hair knots naturally. It doesn't matter what kind of hair you have, under the right conditions (residue free shampoo, no conditionners) your hair will knot too. (Now this is where someone will come along and say "Well I need to use __________ product on my hair so that it will knot because otherwise it won't". Well that is a load of BS. I used to think like that too, so don't feel like poo, we all go through these things. The thing is that as humans we want results now, not later. Natural knotting can take days, weeks, months, and even years, but it does happen. When you already have dreads this natural knotting goes a little faster. Also, products (regardless of what their labels read) are never the answer to speeding up the process. Likely they will do nothing but hinder the process leaving behind residue. Some, if used properly can help... but only if used properly.
Has anyone ever tried wearing a wool tam to sleep? I can almost guarrantee that you'll experience some knotting action doing this. Wearing a tam in general helps the knotting process because your hair rubs against the yarn which in turn helps to form knots.

Anyway I just hate seeing the results of folks blindly and ignorantly using things that are crap for their hair, or overusing a product that is guaranteed to cause them suffering later on and possibly even the loss of their beautiful locks.
If anyone doesn't believe this, they should go and do a quick little search on knottylocks.tk. TONS of people who have misused wax or beeswax cut their dreads and start anew for these reasons.
People who have this kind of buildup generally end up hating their dreads later on because they don't mature like normal locks and they seem to require more maintenance.. I've also noticed that overwaxed dreads almost always end up looking dull and lifeless probably because they are suffocating in residue and buildup.
Some dude on knottylocks even had a few dreads turn green because the wax inside got rancid...
I'm not wax hatin'... I don't have wax issues seeing as I myself use wax from time to time... and no one here is telling people what to do. I for one am just sharing information.
I don't care if you don't believe it, I'm just putting it out there.
Discredit me all you want...

Anyway I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but I seem to feel the need to repeat the same stuff over and over and over again in hopes that maybe someone will learn from it.  ;)

I'm not doing it out of spite or meanness either... Heck if I didn't care I would just sit back and laugh. I wouldn't bother trying to help.

I also want to take this opportunity to say that this is exactly why dreadlocks aren't for everyone. People assume that it's like any other hairstyle.... with a little product, a little tweeking, and snap! Dreadlock. It doesn't work like that. If you abuse your dreads, and constantly abuse them, they will never turn out the way normal dreads do and you will be utterly unsatisfied with them. People really need to go into this with an attitude that says "I'm patient, I accept what they are now, and I'll accept that they may never look the way so and so's dread do." Like I mentioned earlier, it is normal and ok to make mistakes... new growth is an opportunity to turn things around.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on August 29, 2006 01:45:18 PM
I, what you called, "smothered" my dreads in beeswax when i first did them, and after the period i was told to keep it in, to work them and such, I'd say 98% of it washed out. just with hot water, so you myth of it staying in no matter what is kinda shattered when it comes to me. it's just that 2% that I was wondering about, I never said that it bothered the hell out of me, and that i was not going to like my dreads just cause it was there, Everytime that you have replyed to something that I have said you have twisted something, or left out key facts that made what I said make sence. I like the fact that they are not purfect, and that they are not like the peoples you see on "knottyboy".
Also you push these products on people so much, let ppl choose their own products. I liked the beeswax to tell the trueth, no in teh excessive amounts that I WAS using it in, but in the fact that it was maliable, and workable, and it rinsed out after about7 or 8 rinses.
You say that you are not wax haten' yet you bash it so much. you are being a bit hipocritical there.
If somthing works for you, and you dont mind using it, and if you see no adverse effects on your hair after a while of doing whatever you are doing to get knotted up, do it. It's yuor hair, that's the fun of it.
Believe me i know that you have to be patient to have dreads, the maintenece takes time, the work that it needs is time consumeing, bet wether you decided to go the all natural way if letting it do its thing, or do it yourself is totally up to the dread bearer. I see no problem in doing either of these.
My advice to people deciding how to do their dreads, look up all the different ways of doing them, look at the pros and cons for all of them, adn decide which method is best for you. Then go for it. mistakes happen, ppl cant avoid it, but its life for ppl to make mistakes and learn from them. Sure you can tell others about your mistakes and share, maybe even getting a few ppl to think that maybe they wont try what ou tryed r do what u did, but not everyone gets the same results doing teh same things.
sit back
relax
read up
think a lot
make a disicion
and do what YOU want to do, not what someone else wants you to do
AND HAVE FUN AND LOTS OF PATIENCE!
what works for you, works for you. what works for me works for me. As long as you are happy with your dreads, who the f* cares?!?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 03:59:17 PM
Seriously... You need to read what I write before replying and trying to rip on me.

I, in no way have ever pushed products on anyone.
Whenever people ask about products I usually refer to Knotty Boy because I know their products since I've used them. I've also used Dread Head Hq and was extremely disapointed.
I've also told people about naani's products...
I've even told people about natural home-made recipies...
I would much rather refer people to a product I know and trust than refer them to a product that I know nothing of.

Also, I always say that you need absolutely nothing to maintain dreadlocks except for a good non-residue shampoo.

I've never said that dreadlocks are a lot of work... because they were never intended to be. Maintenance is optional... not a requirement.

If you want to hear people bash wax, go to knottylocks.tk...
I don't hate wax seeing as I use it myself... 

Anyway here is some more reading for those who think that I'm a wax basher...
This is from naani.com... Geez... I guess I push these products on people too.
Quote
Excerpt from The Dreadlocks Commandments

i. thou shalt not use 100% beeswax or petroleum based products
heavy pomades and styling elements lead to unhealthy dreadlocks.
As your dreadlocks mature, removing the residue they leave behind will prove tedious, if not impossible. it's best to use light oils/pomades or those that melt/absorb quickly as they are easier to wash away and are less likely to result in the formation of mildew.

100% Beeswax refers to using beeswax stand alone or in too high a concentration.  Depending on the formulation, beeswax isn't necessarily bad for your hair.  As with all products, it's how much you or the manufacturer uses. 

If the beeswax concentration is high, then the product will be thick, gooey or extremely stiff.  It will have a higher melting point and as a result, it'll be difficult to wash out of your hair. 

If the product has a good concentration then you'll be aware that something's on your hair (it will shine better, hold better, etc) but it won't weigh it down or feel thick.  It'll have a lower melting point so it will react to your body heat and hot water.  Meaning it will shampoo out easily.

Look at it this way...have you ever gotten up in the morning, lotioned yourself down only to find that a few hours later your legs, elbows and hands are ashy again?  Wonder why?

Well your lotion is probably water-based.  The water evaporates and you're left with ashy skin.  So the better quality the lotion, the less you have to worry about lubricating those ashy knuckles. 

That's pretty much the idea of using beeswax in products. If the concentration is right, you only need a little and a little goes a long way.  It's not that the beeswax based product is thick either (some are, some arent).  It just doesn't evaporate or wear away as easily as other products.  As a result, you can use a lot less and reap the benefits a lot longer.

Here's where the problem comes in.  Ever heard of too much of a good thing?  Too high a beeswax concentration and it'll take longer for the product to wear/wash away.  If you're a product junkie, then you may over-applicate and if that's the case, the problem is you...not the wax.  Over-application will make ANY product difficult to wash out.

If you had to do a comparison of beeswax products, they usually fall into one of two category examples: Vaseline vs. Eucerin (a high-quality lotion recommended by dermatologists). 

Both of these products will keep you lubricated.  Both require very few reapplications.  The only difference is, at the end of the day, the Eucerin can be washed away.  It can be used on all body parts (including your face because it won't clog pores).

The Vaseline however will spend half the day rubbing off on your clothes, chairs, anything you've come in contact with.  Use it on your face and not only will you clog your pores but a shine at that level is never regarded as healthy or cute.

So when you're thinking about beeswax, try looking at it in these terms.  You want Eucerin quality vs. Vaseline.  They both have the same objective but clearly one is better than the other at achieving its aims.

There you go... straight from the mouth of a pro...
They even call it a commandment...
Thou shall not use 100% pure beeswax...
Geez... the whole world must be wax hating along with me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 29, 2006 04:18:59 PM
Dude.. irish_chicky

FYI:

We kinda love Naked Ninja around these here parts also known as the dreadlock thread.

She has never pushed anything on us, just given her 2 cents and a HELL OF A LOT OF ADVICE, and ALL good.

And as for everyone else, I'm sure we all just want peace and the possibility of having a pleasurable thread to go through without people asking for help and then getting angry when they find out that they didn't know best or haven't been doing things the best way possible.

Hey! They're your dreads, not mine. If you keep givin off a hostile feeling every time you post here you will have no help what so ever in the future from most of us I'm sure.

Craftster is fun, join the programme


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 04:25:32 PM
Fckadog!! Is that your new hairdo in your avatar? It's nice!!! I like it. I like the color!!!

Also thanks for backing me up buddy.
Also I'm through with doing all these elaborate searches just to help people who ask for it and then complain when they hear the truth...

I don't know why I care so much...




Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 29, 2006 04:38:19 PM
No problem!

You've helped us all millions of times, you don't need (nor does anyone else here) people being.. very unkind (or a complete total b*tch with a huge lack of respect).
And you care because that's who you are. Don't change because of one or 2 nasty comments, it's not worth it.

and no, it's my pre dread hair.. little update:

I tried the knotty boy dread removal kit. Didn't work (smelled WONDERFUL, still have loads of the shampoo left.. who wants it  ;) it's great) but I'm assuming it was because of the perm.

So, after 6 traumatizing hours in a bath tub (very hairy bath tub) I decided to trim my hair with one of those machine things (can't for the life of me think of the name.. a trimmer?).
I now have a sorta mohauwk, 100% natural non bleached hair. I'm going to grow it (haha.. again!) and dread it yet again, myself, with a mirror, and a comb, and a lot of elbow grease, MINIMUM OF WAX  :P (ok, that was the end of my mean streak).

I'll post what It looks like now tomorrow.. I need to start getting into washing it daily again..



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 04:44:22 PM
Wowza  :o 6 hours in a tub!!! Haha can you say pruney fingers and toes? hehehe I hate that.

I'm glad I know that stuff doesn't work. Although like you said, it may be because of your dreadperm... but in some ways I doubt it.
I think it's mostly aimed at very new and fresh dreadlocks.

Also mohawkish hair is awesome! Can't wait to see it!
I always admire all these cool hairstyles... all my life I've been searching for a cut or style that would work... nothing ever looked right... plus I'm lazy and hate blowdryers/curling irons/curlers/crimpers/hairdressers in general/products... so naturally dreads work for me. I love how some people think I wake up at 3 in the morning to do my hair everyday. Hahaha... if they only knew...

Heck I never thought about what it would be like to wash my hair every day again. That is going to be weird for you.  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 29, 2006 04:54:25 PM
I hate taking time to do my hair..
With what I have now I just spray it with some knotty boy moisture spray that I still have and it kinda does whatever I want the rest of the day. Or I use my dreadwax..

It's nice to atleast smell like I still have my dreads  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 29, 2006 05:15:14 PM
Wow, we have some severe wax hostility goings on here.
In my own marsupial-type opinion, if it works for you, do it. beeswax is an entirely natural substance people. Thinking about it, the worst that could probably happen is that the dreads have some wax lingering in them a couple years down the road. And from the sound of things, irish_chicky isn't dipping their dreads like candles in the stuff. I'd probably use beeswax over the knotty boy stuff if I decided to go back to waxing, because its less slimy, in my opinion. Thats all it is guys- an opinion, a personal preference.

Now, so you guys can wag the proverbial finger at me.

I use hairspray in my hair!

It is literally the only thing that will make my hair knot up and stay knotted. I use bar shampoo, but when I feel like I'm getting some build up, I use anti-res poo. And thats that. Be at peace friends, we share some amazing hair here, reguardless of methods we use for keeping it amazing.

I don't want to start a huge debate or fight, but you said you would use beeswax over knotty boy because it is natural, yet you use hairspray. Dude... you contradicted yourself. 


 I don't want to start/continue a debate either. BUT I didn't say that I would choose a wax for being natural over using hairspray. I said that some wax is slimy.
 I've used hairspray maybe twice, and I won't use it much more, because it helps some of the more persnickety fuzzies stay in place in order to knot up. Please don't say it doesn't help... it's for short-term knotting, so that there is some inkling of a dread to continue knotting up, as opposed to the rip and tear method. I'm sory naked_ninja, I usually follow what you say avidly, but I'm afraid I disagree with you in some aspects, and I recognize that people are sort of bashing on you right now, so I hope you don't take this as a strike against you, but rather a different viewpoint. And yes I do use anti-residue shampoo, so the leftovers from the hairspray come out. All I have to say is that people have done far worse things to their hair, so I don't think using different wax or a little hairspray will be the end of all things, unless you never wash the stuff and bugs come into play. So, if I get bugs or stinky hair, you'll all be the first to know. :P (Please please please take what I say lightheartedly. I don't want to make you all angry/er.  ;D )


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 07:10:36 PM

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All I have to say is that people have done far worse things to their hair, so I don't think using different wax or a little hairspray will be the end of all things, unless you never wash the stuff and bugs come into play. So, if I get bugs or stinky hair, you'll all be the first to know. :P (Please please please take what I say lightheartedly. I don't want to make you all angry/er.  ;D )
That's the thing... it's not a different brand of dread wax... it's pure beeswax. It should only be used in diluted (for lack of a better word) concentration. If you have to melt it in a pot to put it on your dreads, hot water will not take it out. I'm not the only one who shares this opinion as I've pointed out. Also it isn't an opinion it is a fact. Pure beeswax will form a core in your dread that will cause greater problems in the future. Just because all is well now definately does not mean it will be later on. I just feel horrible that someone such as a hairdresser would advise anyone to glob that stuff on daily. That is litterally heartbreaking to hear. I have heard of folks using pure beeswax, but only in very small quantities and usually just once when they first get their dreads. I wouldn't do this either for the reasons I have previously explained. It doesn't melt in the shower... and it won't wash out with soap.

I also wouldn't advise anyone to use hairspray on their locks, but I'll have to admit I would use hairspray before using straight beeswax. Hairspray will leave residue, but not long lasting residue like beeswax.

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I'm sory naked_ninja, I usually follow what you say avidly, but I'm afraid I disagree with you in some aspects, and I recognize that people are sort of bashing on you right now, so I hope you don't take this as a strike against you, but rather a different viewpoint.
I could care less if people are bashing me... This is the Internet...
I also don't expect anyone to follow what I say avidly. I am not an expert... I'm just well-informed and I have experience... I've recently (about 3 months ago) started officially providing dreadlock services in my area, and I see and meet all kinds of people who have done some pretty sad things to their locks.
If you want to use hairspray by all means do so.
My viewpoint is that hairspray is just another very very temporary fix that can be solved by more natural means and by natural means I do not mean Knotty Boy products (just so no one thinks I'm pushing products on you). But that is my opinion - just for the record - I am not "bossing" you into doing what I think is right.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on August 29, 2006 07:38:26 PM
Hey its all good. You are more or less my hero though, as far as hair goes. And I know the residue from the hairspray will come out in time, else I wouldn't use it. And I also know it is a quick fix, which is the reason I use it. It keeps things in place long enough for them to stay there after washings. I use it the same way as one might use wax, but for me, the wax hinders the locking process (in the short-term even.) I don't plan to use hairspray much more, maybe once, in a month or so, but no more than that. My hair just needed a little short-term push, and it worked pretty well, I must say. I'm not reccomending it to anyone or anything, but it worked for me, and it was only once or twice used. I would not suggest using it often though, dreads or no, products are icky :P But they help sometimes, especially if you do nothing else in the means of maintanence.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 29, 2006 09:26:48 PM
naked ninja is a dread goddesss....thanks for all your help!

My dreads are pretty dandruff-y at the moment. i'm trying to get the roots more dreaded before school starts, but i guess it'll just take time, i know. i love 'em! messy and loose. not how i thought i'd like them, but you never know! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 29, 2006 09:48:26 PM
naked ninja is a dread goddesss....thanks for all your help!

My dreads are pretty dandruff-y at the moment. i'm trying to get the roots more dreaded before school starts, but i guess it'll just take time, i know. i love 'em! messy and loose. not how i thought i'd like them, but you never know! :)

Haha I hear you. When I first got my locks all I thought about was keeping them clean and tidy... Never imagined I would like them messy too. Unfortunately I still have to keep up with them due to issues that may surround my future career as a teacher... Thankfully nowadays my dreads really don't need maintenance and I can just sit back and relax. I try to do some every now and then though... 

I think that is a pretty good attitude you have mayerlove. If you can appreciate and love them even when they are messy, you'll really enjoy your locks. You'll appreciate them even more as they mature and behave a little more. If you ever really need to clean them up though or just want to for any reason, thread around the roots and a crochet hook go a long way. Takes a while to do, but the results are quite awesome. Babikhantastik (hopefully I spelled this right) uses elastics instead of thread. You can do this too (much faster) but make sure you change those elastics from time to time because certain brands tend to rot. No fun, trust me. Hehe. Dollarstores usually carry packages of them in brown, clear, and black. I do know that the ones I got from the Dollar Store rotted, but they were cheap enough to change often (1$ for a huge pack that will last possibly forever).  I've probably told you this before though... sorry if I'm repeating myself. I totally didn't feel like scanning the previous pages to see. Sorry!  ;)

Also thank you for the kind words. I'm far from being a goddess though... hahaha! Regardless of that, thank you very much.  :-*

Oh... forgot to ask... did you try Selsun Blue?
If you've got medical coverage you can actually get that stuff prescribed by a doctor and get it cheaper. I only pay 35 cents for prescriptions (thanks dad!) so I always try to get those types of things prescribed... A doctor can probably even prescribe something better than Selsun Blue also. My whole family suffers from dandruff (except me nowadays).
Now this stuff can possibly leave some residue, but I wouldn't worry about it seeing as getting rid of the dandruff is more important. If you alternate shampoo's residue won't be a problem. It may loosen your locks a bit, but at least you won't have dandruff. Just don't use Head & Shoulders... never... ever... ever...
Another brand I know of is Nizoral... that one works good too.
My dad gave me this dry shampoo stuff for dandruff when I first got my locks. It was alcohol based and all you needed to do was rub it on your scalp and it would evaporate leaving behind nothing but the medicine on your scalp. It was perfect for dreads. If I can keep it in my mind, I'll try to get the name off my dad and report back here.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 29, 2006 11:16:16 PM
well, now my dreads are about 3 weeks old, and i'm rather scared to try selsun blue. it worked wonders on my non-dreaded hair, but as loose as my dreads are now, i'm rather scared of them getting really loose. I usually wash them twice a week, with either neutrogena non-residue or dr. bronners, and that keeps the dandruff away, but i'm behind right now by a few days and that seems to make all the difference. but it could be some sort of hormone thing, idk. (sorry if it's TMI)

the dreads that seem to be knotted the most are the ones that would be in the middle of my pony tail. even the roots are knotting together! :) and the ones that are dreaded the least (like they are non-existant) are around my face and the top of my head. :( and the smaller ones are taking longer. I thought maybe smaller=not as long to dread, but now I think smaller=not enough hair to rub together to dread and knot. only to an extent though.

sorry for rambling, just trying to get to know these little things on my head.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 30, 2006 06:31:39 AM

and the ones that are dreaded the least (like they are non-existant) are around my face and the top of my head. :(

That is normal... I'd say 99% of people who get locks experience this.
I think it has something do do with sleep... everybody goes through this sleep stage were we move a little and that rubbing action on your pillow helps form knots...

Also if you've got a good knot going on each dread, the selsun blue shouldn't undo anything. But if the dr. bronners and anti-residue stuff is working... no need then eh?

There really isn't a "BEST" way to do anything.. or an only way. BUT, what works for you might help others searching for a solution. The thing is to be open minded when it comes to wearing dreadlocks.

haha, naked_ninja.. I bought some elastics from my work a long time ago (i think I was doing twists in my hair) and the clear elastics totally died in two seconds. I guess the hair oil I was using ate them... but the black ones worked just fine! :D

Actually there are certain "best" ways of doing certain things. Tried and true methods that are used by loctiticians on anyone's dreads. There are also things that you should never do because they can cause permanent damage.

For example: A crochet hook pulls in loose hairs along the body of the dread and can help round tips. There is absolutely no other method that will give you these results.

Also if someone wants dreads and asks me about different methods... by far the fastest and most commonly used method is backcombing. Of course you can use a crochet hook to make dreads, you can also take a wool sweater and rub sections of your hair, you can twist and rip, or you can just let time reap it's reward, but backcombing is the "best" method that is easy enough to execute without having any experience and it is sure to work on any hair type.

Another example would be root rubbing to knot up new growth... Although it does work *another temporary fix* I never suggest this to anyone because it is proven that it breaks more hairs than it knots. It weakens roots over the course of time and the effects usually aren't visible till it's too late. If anyone insists on doing this, they should only do it on wet hair. 

There definately is more ways than one to do anything concerning dreadlocks... but there are certain methods that are better and come more recommended because all hair types have had success with them.

Anywho... yeah those clear elastics are poo... but they are good for temporary uses.

Hey did you ever end up getting my pm? It was a while ago... I sent you a mini tute for those headwraps. I just want to make sure you got it.

Also anyone else who is interested in a hairwrap tutorial (like the ones I sent during the swap) just pm me. I'll send it to whoever wants it.
They are super handy. Great for sleeping in and great for camp too.. or whenever you want to wear it.
They look like this:
http://www.phunkybrewster.com/ACCESSORIES.html


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 30, 2006 07:46:26 AM
Hey did you ever end up getting my pm? It was a while ago... I sent you a mini tute for those headwraps. I just want to make sure you got it.


If that was aimed at me- then yes I got it! Thanks a bunch! I've made 2.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 30, 2006 07:50:28 AM
Awesome!!! I'm glad you like it. They are super easy to make.

I also sent the tute to daiconharuko... I was unsure if she got it.
 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 30, 2006 08:28:58 AM
Product or technique.. It's mostly the same in the end, sorta overlaps doesn't it?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 30, 2006 08:38:48 AM
Is there any chance I can mooch and get that tutorial too? I've been having a time trying to find a way to wrap mine for sleeping that doesn't just fall off in the middle of the night.
Also- Is that Neutrogena good shampoo for every day? And for dandruff will Head and Shoulders work? The Bronners really seems to dry my scalp out. :P I feel sort of lame that I can't really contribute to the thread discussion wise yet; still learning everything. ::)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 30, 2006 08:48:30 AM
Also- Is that Neutrogena good shampoo for every day? And for dandruff will Head and Shoulders work? The Bronners really seems to dry my scalp out. :P I feel sort of lame that I can't really contribute to the thread discussion wise yet; still learning everything. ::)

Neutrogena is probably not bad for everyday, but your dreads don't need a wash all that often!

And a big NO to H&S, look at Naked Ninja's post a page or 2 back..
actually, most of the do's and don't have been discussed the last 2 or so pages :) collect and print :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 30, 2006 08:52:58 AM
hehe, I guess I should have worded that better; I meant as a regular 'poo. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on August 30, 2006 11:22:39 AM
Use Selsun Blue and then wash again with Neutrogena Anti-Residue. That's what I'm using (as of today) and it really seemed to get rid of the dandruff, and without leaving a residue! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 30, 2006 12:25:54 PM
Thanks! I only seem to get dandruff if I touch my scalp?? It didn't do that pre-dreads so hopefully that's just a part of the process. ::)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on August 30, 2006 12:56:05 PM
well now that ive read ALL 81 PAGES of the thread i feel worthy of contributing, i just redid my dreads today//last night, an theyre glorious.  but look like im having a bad hair day pretty much, i sure they will develop more.  i could only do the front cause my hair is pretty short, so my friend is gonna try to do the back tomorrow.  i have a little bit of knotty boy dread wax ive been using, ,quite sparingly, and plan on washing with doc bronners peppermint. im also knitting a wool tam at the moment, and will post a tute when its done, its just a big circle with a bit of decreasing at the end to make it fit around your head normal, quite simple.   if anyone wants directions for the tam before i finish it to post a picture with the tute, please pm me and ill give you what i think the directions should be.  beware, you need to know dpns and circs for knitting this hat.  and ribbing.


Ariel


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 10:26:36 AM
We're a community of lovely dreadlocked people (and future dreaddies) on this thread and we should embrace our differnces, not argue the rights and wrongs of what we do with our locks.

You are right... locks are a beautiful thing...
But not to sound rude, there are certain "products" that one should absolutely never ever use on their locks. This is not an opinion... it is fact. I don't care what anyone says about hairspray, toothpaste, or poo for that matter. Certain products should never be used on dreadlocks!!! Ever Ever Ever Ever Ever. Ever.

Also isn't this what this thread is about.... learning the do's and dont's of dreadlocks?
The last time I checked...

Seeing as you have a background in dealing with products, you may think otherwise... but that's just because you sell products for a living. So in a weird way you have a biased opinion. 
One thing that hairdressers and people who love to use products don't understand is that dreadlocks are not like every other hairstyle. They infact... aren't a hairstyle. They are more of a way of life. It isn't our hair that needs training for locks... it's us. Anyone who wants dreadlocks first needs to prepare their mind. Products can't do that. Our hair will do exactly what it's supposed to. Misbehave, loop, fuzz, curl, bud, undo itself, redo itself, shrink... When we don't understand the stages we can misinterpret them and then freak out and do irrational things... which almost always seems to involve products.

Don't get me wrong, there are some really good products out there for dreadlocks that - IF USED PROPERLY - can help us deal a bit better with awkward dreadlock stages. Unfortunately the workforce, parents, and self-esteem sometimes demands for a little tidyness. Nothing wrong with that... I'm not a hippie naturalist type... I do maintenance... I've used wax...
 
Open-mindness, as far as dreadlocks go, shouldn't really consist of anything more than what methods you use to create the initial knots (this does not involve product), and whether or not you will be maintaining your dreads (which really has nothing to do with product). Wax usually falls under this "open-mindness" catagory because it isn't necessary but it can help depending on the product and the use of it. Products are never ever necessary... people just think they are. People refuse to realize that their hair doesn't need it. We've grown up being told to wash and condition our hair every day. We've been bombarded with commercials that tell us how to give life to dull hair by using Herbal Essences... We've been told to de-frizz frizzy hair, to curl straight hair, and to straighten curled hair.... It seems that there is a product to cure everything... This is not so with dreadlocks.
You know I used to say that people should have an open-mind. I think I may have used that term too liberally... I surely didn't mean that people should put poo in their dreadlocks if it kept them looking smooth and tidy.

If someone came on here and said that they used toothpaste to tame their frizzies... what would you all think about that?
That is not a question of open-mindness...

I think I'm done with this now...
I'm not going to continue this absolutely pointless debate.





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 10:50:46 AM
Is there any chance I can mooch and get that tutorial too? I've been having a time trying to find a way to wrap mine for sleeping that doesn't just fall off in the middle of the night.
Also- Is that Neutrogena good shampoo for every day? And for dandruff will Head and Shoulders work? The Bronners really seems to dry my scalp out. :P I feel sort of lame that I can't really contribute to the thread discussion wise yet; still learning everything. ::)

I will most certainly send you this tute.
I will also tell you to stay away from head and shoulders.
If your dandruff persists try Selsun Blue or Nizoral. Use it once a week till your dandruff is gone and then use it once a month for a while.

How often are you washing anyway?
Sometimes washing too much or too little can cause this. Generally most folks wash once a week. Everyday is too much...
Also the simple fact that your scalp has to adjust to dreadlocks can be whats causing your dandruff. I had dandruff in the beginning too... completely went away. My bf on the other hand has always had dandruff and still struggles with it. He has to use Selsun Blue once a month forever...

Also this may sound stupid... but are you rinsing the stuff completely out? Even though it seems all gone, it probably isn't. That's the thing with dreads, you have to rinse forever in the shower.

Neutrogena's Anti-Res shampoo is fine, but it probably doesn't help dandruff any seeing as it is kind of harsh for some people.
I've used that shampoo with success and I know lots of folks who have, but it does contain SLS which is a foaming agent that can cause a reaction with sensitive scalps.
It has never been proven that SLS is bad, but there's tons of talk about it out there. I personally have never had a problem, but some people do.
I've mentioned this wayy back. I've actually mentioned it everytime I talked about Neutrogena.
They also do animal testing for those of you who have a beef with that (hehe I know... lame joke). Just thought I should say it again because it was mentioned quite a while ago.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 31, 2006 11:42:45 AM
I wash mine twice a week; I have to keep things tidy because I work in home health care and am not really supposed to have them in the first place I think. :-X


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 12:27:33 PM
So basically if someone came here and said they used toothpaste on their dreads you would say "as long as it works for you." See I can't do that. If I know that someone is using something that they really shouldn't be... I would tell them.

Well with all of the things I have seen, all of the countless hours of research I've done, and with all of the knowledge I have amassed along the way... I cannot and refuse to sit back and let people destroy their dreadlocks and say "well if it works for you."

I don't scold people... I provide them with information... If the truth hurts then so be it. I'm not going to lie to people to make them feel better.

 :P

I think people should go check out the Dreadlocks 911 board over at knottylocks.tk. Check it out once in a while... You'd be amazed at the things people do to their locks because it seems to work and then they end up posting there trying to get help. Then they end up cutting their dreads. Sad really.

jezebel7383:
I have to keep mine tidy too.
There is nothing wrong with that.  ;)
Nothing is worth losing your job over...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 01:14:39 PM
Here... just returned from knottylocks.tk and found all of this stuff. I amassed it in once huge thread. Too bad I couldn't stick this right on the first page of this thread.

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what are dreadlocks, methods of acquiring dreadlocks, and basically what the dreadlock product companies won't tell you  

my own multiple subject master post. I'll share here all the info I have on these subjects.

So, you’re new to the dread community and it seems like you’re kind of lost? Can’t quite decide on getting locks or not? The truth about locks is that no matter what Knotty Boy or DreadHead HQ tells you, dreads are not an instant hairstyle. No, in fact they are the furthest thing from an instant hairstyle. Braids are an instant hairstyle. Twists are an instant hairstyle. (If you’re not in for the long haul, these are suggested) I’ll start with the basics:

1. What are dreadlocks?
Dreadlocks are locks of matted hair. Ropes of hair tangled so tight, it is nearly impossible to comb them out. Locks can come in many sizes, from ones as thin as your pinkie, or ones as fat as a fist. When you backcomb your hair the first day, you don’t have dreadlocks. You have knotted hair. You’ll know when you have real locks.

2. The locking up process
The locking up process is a long and tough one. At first your hair will seem like it isn’t changing, not locking up at all. Most people like to mess with their hair. Re-backcombing it, keeping rubber bands on for too long, and root rubbing can do more damage than good. Most of the time, it’s good to just ‘leave your hair alone’ and sit back to enjoy the process. You will notice certain parts of the dread locking up. Slowly, but surely, the loose hairs on top of your head will suck back in, those fat fluff locks will shrink up and get shorter, and you will experience the dreaded ‘loops’(no pun intended). After a while, though, all these problems resolve themselves on their own and your locks will really start to look good. If you just keep with it and enjoy the process, they will do what they want on their own time

3. Methods *(two most common)
Method one: leave your hair alone
Locks are what happen when you let your hair go naturally. Do you think the first cavemen had combs to keep their hair pretty? Did they have conditioner to make their hair shiny? No. Their hair matted and locked just like yours will. Every culture and people in history has had their fair share of locks. If you look to the Christian bible, you will see the creed of the Nazarene which states that a man is not to ‘cut or comb his hair’, other biblical text claims that Samson had ‘seven locks of hair’ that was his strength of power. In some Hindi and even Buddhist sects, they believe that life energy escapes through the top of the head and ‘locked’ hair helps to trap the energy and keep it with them. This may explain the story behind Samson’s power, if you believe in it. You will also see that many of the oldest Jewish sects include taking a vow of not cutting or combing the hair in their as a rite of passage to becoming a man.
That said, we know that hair left alone will do what it wants and lock up. Some consider these the only ‘real’ locks because it’s the natural way. This method can take as long as a year or so, but as quickly as a few weeks. It all depends on your hair type and regular activities.  

Method two: backcomb
Backcombing is probably the easiest and most widely used method to create dreadlocks. It simply consists of sectioning the hair off and combing the hair toward the scalp with a strong comb. Depending on the hair type, the result could be bulging, fluffy locks, or thin tame ones. Either way, after the first washing they should calm down some. Most people who choose this method use wax at some point or another. Wax has it’s goods and bads, and there will always be somebody to tell you not to use wax. Wax is sometimes considered good to tame the hair for a situation which your hair needs to look presentable, but definitely doesn’t help the locking process, but instead, if left in the hair too long, can hinder it.

Day one: big fluffy dreads-feel weird.
Week one: after the first washing, they should calm down some and lay.
Month one: you should notice some locking going on at the roots or tips.
6 months: by now, your hair should be locking well and you will have seen noticeable results.
12 months: you have locks

3. What big wax doesn’t tell you
The wax companies don’t tell you the truth about what happens to your hair when it starts to lock. They don’t mention congos, and they barely touch on the subject of loops. The truth is, you’ll get funny looks when you have dreads. You may not be able to obtain certain jobs or have access to some things. This is a good thing, though. A true dread shakes his locks and keeps walking. Take it in stride. People will hate you for being different. Why would that surprise you?
What are congos? When your hair grows out of the head, it isn’t knotted, your hair needs to roll around and break some before it starts to lock at the roots. Sometimes when the roots of your dreads rub together, or get stuck next to each other, they just knot up against the other. So you may end up having two dreads ‘eat each other’ and end up with one big dread where there was once two (of course it will have two tails). This can be easily remedied by pulling them apart before they matt up too much. This may be painful, but no pain no gain, right?
Loops are another story. Loops are the offspring of dreads that are forming well. Loops happen when one side of the dread locks up before the other one, forcing a ‘loop’ of hair out of the other side. This is normal, and even welcome to most dreadheads. It is a sign that your hair is doing what you want it to do. Loops usually disappear within a few months. Knotty Boy’s website tells you to snip them off DON’T DO THIS., as it may hinder the locking process. Loops can be hidden or fixed with the use of beads. Usually the bead will stay right on it, as it should be tight inside there.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on August 31, 2006 01:39:11 PM
That's a good bunch of info; thanks Naked_Ninja.  :) The job thing should be ok; the lady I'm working for is fine with my hair (though a little confused why anyone would want knotted hair ;)) It would probably only become an issue if I switched clients. But at that point I hope to be in school.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 03:32:09 PM
Sorry didn't have enough room so I'm splitting it up.

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Mothers, Cultures, Wax
Mothers:
By mothers, i mean anyone in a position of power to tell you that you can't have dreadlocks.Bosses, mothers, spouses, etc. probably don't understand the meaning for you wanting dreadlocks. Dreadlocks,popular to contrary belief, are not dirty, nasty, or smelly (in most cases) Dreads can be washed just like any other hair style. It's still hair, after all. Hair does not have to be dirty to lock up, in fact the exact opposite is true. It is harder for dirty hair to lock up faster than clean hair. there's nothing different about locks than other hairstyles, besides that it is knotted. Nothing wrong with a hairstyle that looks a bit different, eh? I'm sure your parents, had some variation of a 'counterculture hairsyle' be it long, hippie hair or a beatle cut, why can't you?

Culture:
Only black people can have dreadlocks. False. Dreadlocks are a black culture icon and you are stealing or immitating black culture by having dreads. False. This is one of the most popular myths heard by non-dread folk. I am a white anglo-saxon and my ancestors had dreadlocks. Do you know why? because they didn't have combs. Every culture has had dreadlocks at one time. I can trace my roots back to the Celtic people, who lived on the Brittish Isles and grew matted hair with the help of mud and clay. To them it was symbolic of manhood and success in battle. So if you want dreadlocks, don't steal them from somebody else's culture. Steal them from your own.

Wax:
Everybody has their own different opinions about wax. Some on this board will tell you that wax is bad. Others will tell you that wax is good for the dreads, and others will tell you that it is not harmful or helpful.
In some cases, with improper use, wax can cause rot in the dread or buildup which prevents knots from forming. If you use wax on your locks, here are a few guidelines you should follow:

Don't overuse it.
Make sure to wash it ALL out.
Don't blowdry it in because it's harder to wash out and may buildup, preventing knots from forming.
Wax doesn't create knots, it holds down loose hair while in the beginning stages of locking up, so you can look *'presentable' for work, school, church, etc.
Wax is good on dry, brittle hair to give it life and shine because of the vitamins in it (knottyboy brand not dhhq)
Don't leave it in for longer than a few days as it can hinder the locking process
Don't believe everything you read from Knottyboy or Dreadheadhq.
Don't believe everything you read from members of this site (including me-you don't really have to trust me on this)
Experiment and form your own conclusions.
Report to others your success stories or your Horror wax stories, but please don't randomly bash wax or wax companies.
Dreadheadhq wax contains White Microwax, which is a petrolatum based wax, which is very bad for creating locks.

Depending on what wax you use and how you use it, wax can be a useful tool. If you are going to abuse it, overapply, use it too often, use a wax with petroleum or microcrystaline wax in it, or use a wax with a high beeswax concentration... you can almost be certain that this will happen:





This kind of wax buildup can cause some pretty bad things to happen to your locks:
- it can trap water and cause mold/mildew
- it suffocates your hair which can cause your hair to litterally go rancid
- it can attract other fungi
- it can attract foreign matter such as dust, dirt, bugs...
- it will completely stop new knots from forming

So use it wisely... and be sure your product is natural.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on August 31, 2006 03:35:21 PM
When I cut my 1st set of dreads out they had the whiteness on the inside too.. It's not only wax but a muxture of wax, skin and fluff..

It just happens, you just have to control it a bit (if you wish to!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 03:36:22 PM
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Washing, Wraps, Beads and Rubberbands, Congoes, Loops, Tams
Washing:
Some people with dreadlocks wash their hair. Some don't . The ones that don't wash their hair, however, don't have oily hair. Why is that? It's because the less often your hair is washed, the less oil your scalp produces. If you wash your hair every night, your hair will probably create oil faster. If you wash your dreads once a week, they will not be as oily. It is a good thing to wash dreads, as it creates knots and keeps the hair clean.
It isn't recommended to not wash your hair though. Dirt and natural buildup will occur and cleaning your scalp is good for you and your dreadies.

A word about SLS (Sodium Lauryl Sulfates)
This has been covered in other topics before, so I'll just include the basics:
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate is a coconut-derived acid that is very harsh and is used in a lot of soap and shampoo products.
Soap companies will include it in 'all natural products' because is a derivative of coconut.
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate can cause certain birth defects in pregnant women.

Wraps:
A wrap is when you take a bit of string or yarn and wrap it around your lock, thereby binding the lock and helping it to forn knots without constricting it too much. The most common types of wraps are Hemp wraps and Wool wraps. When you have a hemp wrap, you should be careful when bathing or getting it wet, as the tight hemp may hold moister in for longer than you'd like. It's good to hit it with the blowdryer for a little bit when you step out of the shower. Don't leave in hemp wraps longer than a week. Wool wraps, on the other hand, are the best for helping you create knots. When you wrap your hair with wool, or wear a wool hat, tiny little wool fibers can fall off the hat or wrap and roll around in your hair. Some people think this is good and some think it is bad, but while wool is in your hair, it has a tendency to grab other hairs and knot up to them, joining hairs together. This is why when somebody creates dreads using the rub and rip method, it is recommended that they use wool.
//www.goddardkansas.us/troop776/whipping.html
http://www.knottyboy.com/images/photos/salon/felt-001.jpg

Beads and Rubber Bands:
Beads serve a better purpose than just decoration. Yes, they also look nice on dreads, but beads can be used for a number of different problems. They help lock up like the wrap does, they can cover up and even correct inperfections in dreads, such as loops, holes, fat spots, kinks, and any other type of problems.
Just don't keep them in for too long because certain brands tend to rot and fuse themselves to your dread. If you use rubber bands, change them often.

 Beads can also serve to give form to naturally forming dreadlocks. While some may argue that putting a bead in your hair isn't totally 'natural', I have heard of people putting beads in their naturally forming locks to help them form or keep them from joining or 'congo-ing' with others. Rubber bands, on the other hand, are a different story. While nearly everybody agrees on beads, there is a split decision for rubber bands. Some say good, some say bad. Rubber bands, if used, are best on new dreads when there is a fear that they may come unraveled or unknotted (Best on tips and roots). And though rubber bands holds the hair together, they're not necessarily constructive to knotting. They hold the hairs together without letting them move. Also, if left in the hair for too long, they may rot and sink into the dread, dying the hair black an disentegrating into a messy goop.
 
Congos:
For all the new dreadheads out there, congos are when two dreads grow andknot together. Congoing apears in naturally formed locks and can also be made with beads, rubber bands, stitches, wraps, or any other thing that binds dreads together at the root. The two (or three, or four, etc.) will grow together into one larger dread with multiple 'tails' or ends. Some may even want to congo the whole dread to another instead of just at the roots. This doesn't always work, but the results are usually very interesting.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/lunatic_3051/congo005.jpg
^multiple dreads fuse into one^

Loops:
Got new dreads and worrying about loops? Loops are the best thing for new, young dreads. Loops form when one half of the lock tightens faster than the other. This almost always happens, and loops should be welcomed with open arms. Eventually the loops will dissapear, the dread will shrink some, and all will be back to normal. Beads, wraps, and rubber bands also help to cover up loops until they go away.

Tams:
Tams are hats for dreadlocks. Instead of pushing the locks down and constricting them, tams hold them in a large loose hat and allows them to rub up against one another, helping to improve the locks (tams can also help create congos). Tams can be used to hide locks from other people, keep locks out of your face, or just to keep them off your neck in the summer. Tams are usually made of either a light material such as acrylic for the summer, and a heavier material, such as wool for the winter. Some even suggest that tams are good for sleeping in when locks are new.

*I use the word presentable because dreads never look nice. Not to somebody who doesn't understand and can't appreciate the beauty of locks. Not to those at work, school, or church, at least.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 03:37:10 PM
Almost done...

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Water, palmrolling, rootrubbing, locking accelerator, aloe, fat dreads, myths, lice, young dreads, and stereotypes
 (hope this helps somebody out)  


Water:
Especially for new dreads: water is not your enemy. don't be afraid to get them wet AFTER the initial washing (which should be about 5-7 days after backcombing). After that, it should be fine unless you didn't backcomb very well or your hair is really slippery. Actually, the process of wetting and drying helps to knot up the hair. Especially in the sun. Chlorinated water, while good for locking up, is not necessarily good for the hair. The chemicals you might find in your pool will give the hair a certain texture that will help it matt up, but chlorine, in high amounts can be damaging to the hair. Also sea water is good for the knots. Swimming in the sea is one of the best things you can do for your locks, as the movement of swimming lets the hair move around and tangle, as does the rich sea salt that knots the hair.

Palmrolling:
Simple enough, palmrolling is the rolling of your dreadlocks through the palms back and forth. It helps to give the dreads a distinct roundness. Some, however, think that palmrolling will make the dreads thin. If you want thin dreads, this is a good thing. One thing palmrolling does for sure is to help tighten and create knots in the hair.


Locking Accelerator:
Locking accelerator works by exfoliating the hair in a way that it knots easier. The process is hard for me to describe, but I can tell you that your dreads will thank you for feeding them locking accelerator. Now, Johnny Clean will sell you locking accelerator for 7 dollarsbut of course, you can make your own locking accelerator at home. And while recipes vary, it is usually something like this:

1 parts salt
1 parts lemon juice
8 parts water

Now it helps, of course, if you are using sea salt, as sea salt contains minerals which make it coarser on the hair than table salt. It also helps if the water is hot or warm, as the heat acts as a catalyst to dissolve the salt. And of course, real lemon juice is preferred over lemon juice from a bottle.

The best way to apply this locking accelerator is to spray it from a spray bottle directly on the dreads, but not on the scalp, as it may burn.
It's also best to let it dry in the sun. Good for just before a soccer game : )

Aloe Vera:
Aloe Vera's most helpful to dreads when used as a replacement for wax. It can be used to hold in loose hairs to make your hair look better sooner. It also exfoliates the hair follicles in the same way as the salt water does, yet it also puts vitamins into the hair. Aloe vera contains vitamins A, C, and E, as well as a number of minerals healthy for the scalp and hair. Knotty Boy, in fact, utilizes the locking power o the Aloe plant in it's Locksteady Tightening Gel


 

How to harvest the wonderful powers of the Aloe Plant:

there are two ways to do it: (that i use at least)
cut a leaf off of your plant and cut it into about one inch sections and put it in a blender until it becomes a greenish thick liquid, or
cut a leaf off, and strip off the green 'bark' with a knife(best done by cutting the plant in half along the edge) and use the knife to get out the clear gel type stuff and blend that until it makes a clear thick liquid. Also, it's sometimes good to put some lemon juice in there to help as a locking accelerator.
After applying the Aloe to the hair (dry or damp), it is best to wash it out after a day or so, as it tends to rot and smell. (of course it smells bad when you first blend it up, but once dry, it doesn't smell at all-trust me!)


Fat dreads:
If you've had dreads for a while, you 'd notice that the ends near the roots are probably thicker and fatter than the end near the tips. This is because when you had non-dreaded hair, you lost about 100 hairs a day (even more if you're blonde), which fell out and went away. But now that you have dreads (or will hopefully in the future), when they fall out, they don't go away. They stick around and contribute their part to the dread. So instead of losing all those hairs, you're actually adding them to your dreads.

Now hair has a lifespan of about four years. Losing 100 hairs every day for four years equal 146,000 hairs per cycle. And as hair dies and rewnew themselves, the dreads gain that instead of losing it.

therefore dreads get fat.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 03:38:45 PM
Almost I swear...

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scalp problems, deep cleaning your dreads, and PICTURES!
scalp problems:
1. Sometimes skin psoriasis occurs as an allergic reaction. The psoriasis is caused by the immune system becoming overactive. You can regulate this a little by consuming certain herbs as teas or suppliments: burdock, yellow dock, sarsparilla, barberry, gota kola (can be found easily in most vitamin/supplement sections of the grocery store), dandelion or calendula which is a form of marigold (both of these are good for cleansing, too), to name a few. Hopefully this will give you some options. Be sure to follow instructions, and if you have any questions about the herbs, you can drop me a PM.

It may be that you are allergic to some ingredient in the new shampoo you've been using...so first thing first, go back to your old shampoo or find one that has no detergents or sulfates. Dr. Bronner's is a VERY good soap for most and can be found in many grocery stores, natural food stores, and online.

 2. Frequently severe skin problems are a sign that the liver and kidneys are being neglected from diet...if ignored, this may cause others problems with the bod. I will be helping you heal your problem from the inside to outside.

 Here's a project for ya:

A lot of times, the liver gets dirtied up too much which cause such health problems as psoriasis. This is the most common cause, so I will supply the most info here. You will find other viruses and skin irritations appearing as well if you have them, such as warts, eczema, cold sores, etc.

Check out your diet....are you consuming enough vitamins and minerals, or is your diet empty and full of the nasties? A poor diet will pollute the liver in no time. Look at your finger nails...do you find white indentations on them? Are they brittle and/or yellowing? Is your skin color healthy looking or ashen? Is your urine cloudy? If you find yourself answering yes, you made need to do some cleansing:

Green tea to me is one of the safest and simpler ways to clean out the body...for me it was quite easy to adapt to drinking everyday. Golden seal is good as well, but it should not be consumed on a daily basis, whereas green tea can be consumed as much as you want, and it tastes good. I also recommend the green tea because it is easily found at most any grocery store.

Grapefruit seed extract is just AMAZING STUFF too, but VERY bitter to the taste. I personally think everyone should have a bottle of this around the house. We use the stuff to fight off colds and viruses as well, instead of taking penecillin.

Now to get those vitamins and minerals you might be missin'...Catalyn is a good supplement full of vitamins, enzymes, and minerals that work easily with the body. Very good to getting that liver back to good functioning order...if you are vegan/vegetarian, you may want to look at the ingredients of some catalyn, which can contain bovine kidney.

Now to work on curing the skin from the outside. Try adding carrotseed oil and/or neem oil to a shampoo that contains oatmeal protein (aveeno products contain oatmeal protein). Oatmeal is great for severe skin problems. The oil ratio will be 5-6 drops each (or 10-12 drops if using only one of the oils) per fluid ounce.

Here's a topical (used on the skin) concoction that may help you out:

take about 2 to 2 1/2 ounces of aloe vera gel
add around 1 teaspoon vegetable/olive oil
1/2 teaspoon grapefruit seed extract
8 drops carrotseed or sandalwood oil
4 drops rosemary oil

Use the combined ingredients as a massage gel/oil. Dip your fingers in the blend and massage the scalp gently. (You should do an allergy test by applying a small amount to the inside elbow first). If you would like to use this as a rinse in the shower, use no more than 2 teaspoons of aloe vera gel instead and add 1 teaspoon of glycerin. You can use this remedy anytime you feel that the psoriasis is just outta control. Refridgerate the leftovers and keep them out of constant light...it should keep well for a couple of weeks.

 3. Lastly...stop picking at your scalp. It may seem difficult to do, but hair follicles are very sensative and can get infected pretty easily. Messing with them can cause ingrown hairs, which will puss and scab...icky...hehehe!

I hope this helps you out!

Good luck and be sure to check first if you might have any allergies to the herbs and oils above, okay!

Deep cleaning dreadlocks
"This works sooo good~ and most of you probably have all the stuff available right now so try it out !~ Get a BIG bowl of warm water, mix in about 3/4 c of baking soda, 8-9 drops of tea tree oil, 2 T of lemon juice, and 2T of salt stir until well dissolved. use a squirt bottle or something to apply to your scalp and soak all your dreads real well ~ wrap up in a towel and let them sit for like 1/2 an hour or so ~ then rinse( and rinse again ). Now I dunno if I just have really dirty dreadies or something but when I rinsed my hair the water was muddy brown ~ gross!~ It deep cleans the middle of the dread I guess. I do this like once a month now.(Aside from using regular shampoo) Let me know if you get the same results!"

For everyone's enjoyment, random lock pictures, before and after's, and dreadlock timelines
These pictures are here to inspire and educate. Educate as in show you how different each set of locks is.

random lock pics
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t785

before and after
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1428

dreadlock timelines
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1215


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on August 31, 2006 03:48:03 PM
When I cut my 1st set of dreads out they had the whiteness on the inside too.. It's not only wax but a muxture of wax, skin and fluff..

It just happens, you just have to control it a bit (if you wish to!)

That stuff in those pictures is wax buildup though.  The wax buildup was so bad that they had to cut.  You can actually see little chunks of hard wax in there.

Of course you'll find some random shit in there too though. I accidentally cut off one of my dreads in the first month trying to cut out an elastic that rotted and I had some towel lint in there along with a few little dry flakey things that looked like dandruff... but no wax.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on August 31, 2006 08:16:54 PM
im having great fun looking at the pics of people's congos on knottylocks xD....they remind me of my own that im to wimpy to rip apart.....but atleast now i know some people think that they are cool :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on August 31, 2006 08:41:12 PM
also, my friend wanted to get dreads like really bad but her mom was making her get her hair cut so she was all mad the whole time the lady was cutting her hair and then the lady said  "you know, if u gonna geet dreadlocks you shud get an African to do it, cus you knoo white ppl arnt reely sposed to have dreads"
i was trying not to burst out laughing when she said that^^ xD


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on August 31, 2006 10:04:01 PM
also, my friend wanted to get dreads like really bad but her mom was making her get her hair cut so she was all mad the whole time the lady was cutting her hair and then the lady said  "you know, if u gonna geet dreadlocks you shud get an African to do it, cus you knoo white ppl arnt reely sposed to have dreads"
i was trying not to burst out laughing when she said that^^ xD

By that theory, black women shouldn't straighten their hair  ::) >:(


I hate ignorance like so much  :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 01, 2006 07:26:21 AM
also, my friend wanted to get dreads like really bad but her mom was making her get her hair cut so she was all mad the whole time the lady was cutting her hair and then the lady said  "you know, if u gonna geet dreadlocks you shud get an African to do it, cus you knoo white ppl arnt reely sposed to have dreads"
i was trying not to burst out laughing when she said that^^ xD

Wow...
I honestly hate hairdressers...
Most of them know absolutely nothing about things like dreadlocks but they act like they do because they cut and style hair for a living.
Of course they aren't all like that... but lots of them are.

milkweed*:
Congoes most definately are cool. Seperating them is a matter of personal choice. Some people let one grow and then seperate the rest and others seperate them all while others still just decide to let things be.
The only thing that I don't like is when all the dreads combine to form one giant congo.. I'm not into that.

Looks like a tree trunk. Must be heavy as hell too. Wouldn't want to get that thing wet.

Anywho.
For those of you interested in seeing other congoes...  
http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum.fknottypics.t1830


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 01, 2006 08:13:43 AM
also, my friend wanted to get dreads like really bad but her mom was making her get her hair cut so she was all mad the whole time the lady was cutting her hair and then the lady said  "you know, if u gonna geet dreadlocks you shud get an African to do it, cus you knoo white ppl arnt reely sposed to have dreads"
i was trying not to burst out laughing when she said that^^ xD
She also said "with curly hair, you really need some 'products'" btw Im the one who had to get my hair butchered. She kept saying 'products' as in shampoos and gels and what not. and she had a weird voice. sometimes milkweed* and I are talking and one of us will just be like "with curly hair you really need some 'products'" in a freaky voice


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 01, 2006 08:37:39 AM
Oh wow...

Most hairdresser's are product pushers because they get a commission on all the products they sell. Well it's like that here anyway...



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 01, 2006 11:55:05 AM
ok, i don't wanna sound stupid- but can someone tell me why in these pictures they put their hands like that?
i saw alot of people in pictures with their hands like this and i didn't know if there is a reason?

http://myspace-280.vo.llnwd.net/00936/08/23/936233280_l.jpg
http://myspace-124.vo.llnwd.net/00705/42/13/705103124_l.gif


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 01, 2006 01:40:13 PM
I have not a clue...  ???

It may be something to do with rastafarianism...  Some type of mudra.
There is a very similar japanese mudra that signifies "meditation" or "contemplation."
A slightly different variation (which is much closer to those in the images you posted) where just the fingertips of the hands are crossed means "unshakable confidence".

Or maybe they like to place their hands like that for no reason at all.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 01, 2006 01:44:08 PM
A guy at one of the offices I work through said that his girlfriend puts a panty hose leg over her dreads to wash them; apparently it helps make them dread faster. ???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 01, 2006 02:31:32 PM
That's what dreadheadq says... Actually they say to wash with a nylon stocking on your head to prevent frizzies and loose hairs.
I personally don't see how that could work...
I also don't see how you can properly wash and rinse your hair that way...
Also you should only be washing your scalp, not your locks. The soapy water that will run down them while you're rinsing is sufficiant enough to clean them.
 ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 01, 2006 08:10:38 PM
That's what dreadheadq says... Actually they say to wash with a nylon stocking on your head to prevent frizzies and loose hairs.
I personally don't see how that could work...
I also don't see how you can properly wash and rinse your hair that way...
Also you should only be washing your scalp, not your locks. The soapy water that will run down them while you're rinsing is sufficiant enough to clean them.
 ;)

Maybe the static from the nylon makes the hair stay bunched up in the dread. Just an idea. My mom just made me 2 tams. The first one in made from camo acrylic yarn and its really big. the second one is black cotton yarn and it fits me perfectly. There is a little extra room so once I get dreads I think my black tam should be perfect.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 01, 2006 08:19:41 PM
has anyone heard of anyone making their own dreadwax? i know i would need pure beeswax, but what else, and what would i use to soften it, just essential oils?

i dont really want to pay 15-25 dollars USD for a 4-8 oz jar of the stuff on knotty boy, and im almost out, so i want to wither buy more or make my own, i just dont know how to go about doing it

and does anyone have a recipe for M&P dread soap...i know i need a hemp seed oil base and a few different oils, ive just never maid soap before either



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 01, 2006 10:38:15 PM
Hi I am Olivia. First off… I love all of your dreads!!!! They are all so unique and beautiful..This is going to be super long! I jut got done reading this WHOLE thread. Whew… I am answering questions and commenting on things from pages and pages ago. Sorry I am so late!!!

Why did you get your dreads?
I got dreads for the first time when I was very young, I didn’t know what I was doing and put some nasty stuff in them and I had to cut them off after a few months.  I have always loved dreads. I have always had issues taking hair of my hair- it was really nappy and got tangled sooooo easily. I was tired of putting so much work (and so many painful combing sessions) into having “normal” hair. So I dreaded it up right.

I have had my dreads since January 2005- so I am coming up on two years. I LOVE them. I couldn’t imagine not having them.

I don’t shampoo often enough like once every 2 weeks or so. I want to start shampooing more often. Also I don’t use any special shampoo just normal shamoo. My dreads are still super tight and whatnot. After reading this whole thing I think I am going to switch to no residue shampoo.

As far as dreads during sex… my dreads are past my shoulders and I am always on top and I like to let them swing around. It makes me feel sexy or something. We’ve never had a problem with them hitting him.

Rosey said something about someone saying “you’re pretty but you need to cut those dreads off”. I am shy and I don’t have lots of self esteem, sometimes I feel really bad about the way that I look. A few weeks ago my boyfriend and I were at the grocery store and when we were checking out the cashier said “you’d look much better with straight hair”. When we got to the car I started crying. I think sometimes people think when you have dreads you know you are being “wacky” and you just want attention so its ok for them to comment about it. He never would have told someone with a “normal” haircut that they would look better another way- but somehow he felt like it was appropriate to say to me- even though he hurt my feelings.

I really really want to crochet my loose hairs in and I have tried a bunch of times but I suck at it… I’m a knitter I’ve never successfully crocheted anything- not even my dreads ?

I have a huge phobia of bugs so I skipped like 3 pages of lice talk… YUCK!

this thread is so great. i am glad i got the bulk of it down so i can participate now! i'll post some pictures of my dreads very soon :) sorry this is so long.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 02, 2006 07:46:36 AM
That's what dreadheadq says... Actually they say to wash with a nylon stocking on your head to prevent frizzies and loose hairs.
I personally don't see how that could work...
I also don't see how you can properly wash and rinse your hair that way...
Also you should only be washing your scalp, not your locks. The soapy water that will run down them while you're rinsing is sufficiant enough to clean them.
 ;)

Maybe the static from the nylon makes the hair stay bunched up in the dread. Just an idea. My mom just made me 2 tams. The first one in made from camo acrylic yarn and its really big. the second one is black cotton yarn and it fits me perfectly. There is a little extra room so once I get dreads I think my black tam should be perfect.

If I'm correct... static only happens under dry conditions.
A nylon stocking in the shower is useless...
Washing your scalp and rubbing your dreads in the shower will knot them up way more than keeping them all stuck together under a nylon stocking.
Also rinsing them clean and washing them properly would be almost impossible.

olivian:
Haha yeah lice talk makes me cringe too.
As far as crocheting your dreads... it really isn't anything like actual crocheting. You just need a very small metal hook... stick that through the body of your dread, wrap the loose fuzz around the hook and pull it through. Obviously it may need to be repeated a few times. Try inserting the hook in different directions. That works best.
Also a non-residue shampoo is sooo important. Most healthfood stores sell Dr. Bronners. Cheap enough and it works great.
Also, you really shouldn't think badly about yourself like that. People are dicks... there will always be rude and mean people out there. Especially when you have dreads...
It is nearly impossible for those who don't understand locks to appreciate them or to find them beautiful for that matter. Most people see them as a sign of bad hygiene, poorness, and drugs. Unfortunately that is reality. It is our ability to see beauty in something as ill-regarded as knotted hair that makes us different and special in our own way. In a sense our appreciation for dreadlocks also helps us find a diamond in the most ugliest lumps of coal while others simply can't. Learn to appreciate these things as well as yourself and there is no reason for you not to be confident.
Next time someone says you would look better with straight hair, make sure to tell them that you are absolutely perfect the way you are.  ;)

Miss Mermaid Strikes Back :
What I've found is that you never quite know what's in M&P soaps... even if the ingredients are listed, they may neglect to tell you that they've added a foaming agent or whatnot. You never know.
Also it doesn't need to be hempseed oil based. I prefer hempseed oil soap because I like using it all around (body/hair/face) but that is just my preference. I just like hempseed oil soaps.
If I were you I would make my own soap from scratch... It really isn't that difficult.
You should check out the post I made and read all the advice others gave me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 02, 2006 07:56:18 AM
A guy at one of the offices I work through said that his girlfriend puts a panty hose leg over her dreads to wash them; apparently it helps make them dread faster. ???

i would think doing that would make them dread to eachother a lot...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 02, 2006 08:27:33 AM
For my dreads Im not using wax. milkweed* sent me the link to a page about wax so now Im NOT using it :P I think Im going to do the neglect method. I did that before on accident and it worked for me. the whol back of my head was one huge dread. Maybe today I will have my mom separate my hair... I just wish my hair was a little longer. I dont want to look like a guy. One of the kids I babysot thinks im a guy because my hair is short and my voice sounds like a guy to her o.0


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 09:00:49 AM
thanks naked ninja

ive been doing some research and i bought some bees wax this morning online from some people upstate of where i live, theyre beekeepers and i trust that.
im also going to get some cosmetic use pure shea nut butter...but its from australia so i have to wait a week or two.  after that all i need is my health food store and some essential oils i believe...and then were gonna try making out own wax
YAY


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 02, 2006 09:45:00 AM
when you put in your wax i suggest you don't use a hairdryer to melt it, (like some sites i have seen say to do that) you will have all this wax on the inside of your dreads...like a candle...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 09:56:08 AM
i never ever use a hairdryer unless im drying my hair after a shower, and i usually wash my hair the day after i wax it, to get the excess out. if i accidentally use to much ((or my friend is working on it and uses a ton like last week...))


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on September 02, 2006 10:03:32 AM
Miss Mermaid Strikes Back: I'd love to have the recipe. Unfortunately here (Hungary) the health food stores suck they hardly sell any hemp seed oil product or essential oils. All they sell of the ingredients of the kb dread wax is beeswas jojoba and avocado oil. Do you think it's enough? Where did you find the recipe?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 10:16:50 AM
i didnt find a recipe, im making up my own,i should be able to make more than ill need when i do finally get to make it ((i have to wait a few weeks to order the shea  nut butter from australia)) ill pm you to discuss it


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 02:22:23 PM
in the next week i will be purchasing and recieving the supplies to make a roughly twenty ounce batch of dread wax, simmilar to the one on knotty boy.  if when it is done if anyone would like to do a personal swap for a four ounce jar of the wax, please let me know inthe form of a PM. 

the items i would be looking for

a sewn tam similar to naked ninja's...gosh i love that hat
dread soap, homemade would be awesome
hemp
large beads
anyhing else cool you can think of that a child of a hippie may enjoy

i live in Wisconsin, USA just so you know where you would be shipping to...

the wax should be ready in the next few weeks, but no later than october first.


ingrdients i will be using

all natural wisconsin harvested bees wax
shea nut butter
jojoba oil
avacado oil
kukui nut oil
((no hempseed oil like knottyboy's because it isnt available to me except over the internet))

when i order my shea nut butter, i may also order some hempseed oil, if the comapny im ordering from has it available


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 02, 2006 03:06:33 PM
For my dreads Im not using wax. milkweed* sent me the link to a page about wax so now Im NOT using it :P I think Im going to do the neglect method. I did that before on accident and it worked for me. the whol back of my head was one huge dread. Maybe today I will have my mom separate my hair... I just wish my hair was a little longer. I dont want to look like a guy. One of the kids I babysot thinks im a guy because my hair is short and my voice sounds like a guy to her o.0

Well the pictures you've seen (along with the pictures I've posted on here) are from those who misuse wax. This is exactly why I tell people not to abuse wax.
Wax should not be used daily...
Wax should not be globbed on either...
Also wax should not have a very high beeswax concentration because it will be much harder to wash out... 
If you can, get something water soluble....

Wax can be used successfully but it is not necessary.
So if you don't want to use it... don't. Simole as that.

Also if you are doing the neglect method, it doesn't involve sectioning your hair. You do nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just wash your hair with residue free shampoo.
If you're going to section your hair you don't fall into the neglect/natural method anymore because you've interfered.
Neglect = not doing anything.
And by not doing anyting... I mean NOT doing anything... but washing your hair of course.

Also this method isn't for everyone. Chances are, it will take years for your locks to mature and in the mean-time your hair will be extremely messy looking. This usually doesn't go over well with schools, family, and jobs. Sooo be certain that you aren't going to have any drawbacks as a result of your hair.
Anyway it really isn't for everyone. Then again, dreadlocks themselves aren't for everyone.

But if you know what you're in for and have given it some thought... there ain't nothing wrong with the neglect method. Don't jump into something like that just because someone tells you to. Think about it first... People usually forget to think about it.

Here are some pics of those who used the neglect method (also known as natural method or just natural locks/dreads).

This is 3 months in:


This is a few months in:


These are at 8 months:


These are over a year old:


As you can see... it takes a while to get some progress...
Some progress faster... I guess it depends on the conditions (residue free shampoo and hair type).
It is the furthest from instant as you can get and it certainly will never be orderly. You definately need to know that and keep it in mind.

Also if you do any type of maintenance or tweeking... technically your dreads aren't considered naturals or neglected. 


Miss Mermaid Strikes Back:
You really have to be careful as far as making your own wax.
It's very trial and error and if you have too much beeswax in there you'll really really regret it.  :-\





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 03:09:45 PM
my mom and i were researching, and the closest thing to a recipe i found was half beeswax half almond oil ((or any other type off essential oil)) with a tiny bit of fragrance in there too i believe. so im gonna make a small batch that way and hope it works, if not ill be washing my dreads a lot.  but i figure if its only 50% wax, it should be alright. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 02, 2006 03:22:45 PM
sidetrack.... where in wisconsin are you?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 04:24:38 PM
waukesha, twenty minutes outside of milwaukee


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jaami on September 02, 2006 05:58:42 PM
i wish i had pictures of my dreads with me, but i dont think i do. two weeks ago i brushed/combed/waited them all out, and already miss them. i say i wish i had pictures because i had what would be called "neglected" dreads. they're my favorite kind, but be careful if it's something you're thinking about and have never had dreads before. i have pretty insane hair - messy, curly, wavy, whatever, and it's thick. obtaining neglected dreads literally meant just plain never brushing my hair.  i loved all the dreads that had formed but i had one so massive that it actually was in the process of sticking straight off my dome (it was about three months old). for the first time in all the years i had had dreads (about 4 years on and off), it actually looked gross, which is so rare of me to say about them. since i didn't do anything to them at all, it just got bigger and bigger, til i decided to take everything out (lots of conditioning and knotty boy remover) so i can start all over once my hair grows longer in a few months. they are fun, and i can't wait to do it again. what nakedninja said is right though, employers and school and family tend to give you some weird looks with them, but if it's not an issue, try it out. if i come across some photos of my mess, i'll post them!

viva la dread.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 02, 2006 06:03:56 PM
hehe sweet... i'm in green bay.  good to see dreadies outside madison ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 02, 2006 08:55:11 PM
Well i guess tecnectly it wont be the neglect method. I HAVE to section my hair. I have gone without brushing my hair a lot of times and twice its gotten really bad. my hair is so fluffy that it just stays in one big dread. If I go without brushing my hair for a week I have serious knots in my hair. I might have a pic form the last time stopped brushing my hair... Here is is. http://www.flickr.com/photos/malegra/67669192/  thats after my mom spent a couple hours working on it. except for the two long parts everything else is one huge dread. I ended up getting my hair really short. So if im not neglecting my hair then i guess Im separating it and not brushing it. :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 02, 2006 08:59:01 PM
i have pictures now!

here are my dreads...three to four days old and supa fluffy...



here is the hat i sewed in about an hour tonight, the fabric is from my boyfriend,, and it is lined with cheapo purple paisly from walmart, you can kinda see it on the underside of the brim



and here is the tam i knit in two days...i posted the pattern in another thread on the knitting board, but if anyone wants it PM me and ill find it for you



the tam is made from patons SWS ((soy wool stripes)) and for wool its super super soft, ive hardly taken the thing off since i finished it two night ago


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 03, 2006 06:41:41 AM
Oh wow...

Most hairdresser's are product pushers because they get a commission on all the products they sell. Well it's like that here anyway...


yeah they are. Basically, they buy stuff for cheaper some where else and then sell it to their clients at a higher price. I get a lot of people who come in my store who are suprised that their hairdresser charged them 20 bucks for something when we only charge 5 bucks (and the hairdresser only paid 3 bucks for it).

Sooo sad.
Back in the pre-dread days, when I was getting my hair done for prom, my hairdresser told me that most of the money she made was on products. I was shocked.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 03, 2006 06:46:22 AM
Forgot to mention... Nice new dreadies missmermaid!!!
Also... thinking logically here...
Wouldn't an easy way to tell if your dread wax has a nice consistency is to see if it will become soft and basically melt in your hand? I would do that before sticking it in my dreads.
Also the less beeswax you use the better. It will have the same effect, only it will wash out way easier.  ;)
I'd love to know how things turn out... Just be careful!!! hehe


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 03, 2006 06:49:36 AM
missmermaid, how long was your hair to start with?

(I feel I'm repeating myself.. ha.. long way to go AGAIN!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 03, 2006 09:43:24 AM
missmermaid, how long was your hair to start with?

(I feel I'm repeating myself.. ha.. long way to go AGAIN!)

um, about chin length but super super layered because i had one of those haircuts that is meant to be worn as a fauxhawk...but i never learned//figured out how to get the hawk up...it was sad.

Forgot to mention... Nice new dreadies missmermaid!!!
Also... thinking logically here...
Wouldn't an easy way to tell if your dread wax has a nice consistency is to see if it will become soft and basically melt in your hand? I would do that before sticking it in my dreads.
Also the less beeswax you use the better. It will have the same effect, only it will wash out way easier.  ;)
I'd love to know how things turn out... Just be careful!!! hehe

and yes, thats pretty much how im going to go about doing it, and if it isnt the right consitancy on the first try, ill add more esstial oils. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 03, 2006 02:31:47 PM
im trying to make peyote stitch dread sleeves...has anyone found an argyle peyote stitch pattern...cause i want one and cant find any. i also posted this on the beads board.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 03, 2006 04:00:34 PM
miss mermaid strikes back- that tam is AWESOME! how does it fit? im pming you for the pattern!

here's some pictures of my dreads...
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/ryanandolivia/Photo207.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/ryanandolivia/Photo204.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/ryanandolivia/Photo206.jpg

they are much shorter in the back....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on September 03, 2006 04:16:40 PM
GAH! Those are beautiful! How old are they?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 03, 2006 04:55:43 PM
why thank you!!!!! they will be 2 years old in january.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 03, 2006 05:33:57 PM
Very nice dreads!!!

I'm specially loving that you haven't dreaded the whole front part, really suits you!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 03, 2006 06:05:34 PM
thanks so much! i LOVE my baby hair! i can pass for normal when i put my hair up in a pony tail! i went to the flea markert today and i guess a bunch of the people there are big rednecks and they kept staring at me. it made me feel soo bad like people were turning their heads as they walked to give me dirty looks. eventually i got pissed and said something really loud about how ignorant all the hillbillys were and how i was irritated with being stared at- so this older man who was staring could hear. i love the flea market but next time i go- i think i'll tuck my dreads into a tam firsthand!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 03, 2006 07:14:20 PM
Nice locks Olivian!!!  ;)
And who the hell cares about rednecks. You shouldn't have to cover those beauties up... Geez. Keep your head up high and forget about what others think.

Our locks are almost the same age. Mine have just turned two.  God I speak of them like they are my children... haha  :D



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 03, 2006 07:26:19 PM
thanks rosey! thats cool our dreads are the same age! i think i am going to have a birthday party for them this year! i think its time for you to post another picture of your locks! its been awhile!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 03, 2006 07:26:28 PM
speaking of rednecks.  sadly im dating one. have been for almost a year.  so i mean, he wont ditch me just cause of the dreads...but he certiantly doesnt like them...any ideas guys.  cause were both stubborn and he hates them, i refuse to get rid of them...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 03, 2006 07:29:11 PM
speaking of rednecks.  sadly im dating one. have been for almost a year.  so i mean, he wont ditch me just cause of the dreads...but he certiantly doesnt like them...any ideas guys.  cause were both stubborn and he hates them, i refuse to get rid of them...
Haha! I'm dating a hick-boy too. Cept he loves my hair. Weird, guess you can't make generalizations.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 03, 2006 07:33:15 PM
speaking of rednecks.  sadly im dating one. have been for almost a year.  so i mean, he wont ditch me just cause of the dreads...but he certiantly doesnt like them...any ideas guys.  cause were both stubborn and he hates them, i refuse to get rid of them...
Haha! I'm dating a hick-boy too. Cept he loves my hair. Weird, guess you can't make generalizations.

does yours go trash picking on large trash day to find large metal objects to turn ito lawn art, have four pickups in his front yard, not just the driveway and over fifteen chickens though...mines from illinois and an absolute redneck...and hes like, proud of it.  mind you im mostly a hippy how this pairing worked out i dunno.  i mean, the boy leaves me at home to go trash picking...its crazy.  i wish mine were like yours though...constantly on my case about the hair...last time i had them i had no choice but to comb them out, because of a rubber band issue, and he practically celebrated.  but hey, no rubber bands to stop me now.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 03, 2006 07:38:58 PM
Ha, I guess mine's not that bad. Well its good you're keepin your dreads, reguardless of what he says :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 03, 2006 08:15:57 PM
im sorry if i offended anyone by talking about "rednecks". the people i think of as rednecks who are openly racist and mean to people who are not like them. there is nothing at all wrong with being "country" i grew up on a farm.

so im sure your boyfriends arent rednecks...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 03, 2006 08:21:11 PM
and im being raised by a hippy new yorker.  when you come from that background and you live in wisconsin.  rednecks are different then iff you grew up on a farm.  but good point. at least our boys arent racist pigs.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 04, 2006 12:07:11 AM
Miss Mermaid Strikes Back, don't cut them off for the guy (yet I'm pretty sure you could still comb them out, but don't do that either!)

(these accounts are on my 1st set of dreads.. the ones I loved and looked friggin great  ::))
Men are such asses! The 1st guy who didn't like my dreads eventually loved them! He'd be like 'they're my little cushions to sleep on when we're on the couch' :D that coming from the guy who wanted to pay someone to pick out my dreads hair by hair..

The other guy who didn't like 'em kinda worked on me, I feel, gave me a bad vibe bout 'em and actually cut them for me he was so overjoyed.. Bastard.. I'm glad he can rot at home the rest of his life with his manipulating ways and social phobia, atleast I can get out of the house by myself! (yeh I'm bitter!)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 04, 2006 06:20:44 AM
Wowza...

I guess I'm lucky. My boyfriend is supportive... so supportive that he's crossed over to the knotty side. Hahaha. He's always told me that no matter what, I will always be beautiful in his eyes.
I guess that's why we are still together... 6 years now. Haha he was like my second boyfriend. Got lucky I guess.

Anyway, if your boyfriends are so vain that they can't see past your hair... what does that really say about them?
They should appreciate you for who you are, not what your hair is.
You haven't changed... 

I always tell people that dreadlocks are a good judge of character. Once you get them, the people around you change. Some will not want to hang out with you anymore, some will not want to date you anymore, and some will be indifferent. Some guys feel intimidated by a girl with dreads, and some don't like the simple fact that they are "different". The friends who stick around afterward are the ones you need to hold close. Those who can't see past the locks... I say ditch em'. Like I say... you haven't changed. You're still the same person.

I'm not really into this kind of music... but I thought this song was pretty inspirational and India Arie is pretty cool.

It's by India Arie.
It's called "I am not my hair"
I just copied and pasted it from a lyrics site so excuse the Woah Woah's and the Oh's and all that.


[Talking:]
Is that India.Arie? What happened to her hair? Ha ha ha ha ha

[Verse 1]
Little girl with the press and curl
Age eight I got a Jheri curl
Thirteen I got a relaxer
I was a source of so much laughter
At fifteen when it all broke off
Eighteen and went all natural
February two thousand and two
I went and did
What I had to do
Because it was time to change my life
To become the women that I am inside
Ninety-seven dreadlock all gone
I looked in the mirror
For the first time and saw that HEY....

[Chorus]
I am not my hair
I am not this skin
I am not your expectations no no
I am not my hair
I ma not this skin
I am a soul that lives within

[Talking:]
What'd she do to her hair? I don't know it look crazy
I like it. I might do that.
Umm I wouldn't go that far. I know .. ha ha ha ha

[Verse 2]
Good hair means curls and waves
Bad hair means you look like a slave
At the turn of the century
Its time for us to redefine who we be
You can shave it off
Like a South African beauty
Or get in on lock
Like Bob Marley
You can rock it straight
Like Oprah Winfrey
If its not what's on your head
Its what's underneath and say HEY....

[Chorus]
I am not my hair
I am not this skin
I am not your expectations no no
I am not my hair
I ma not this skin
I am a soul that lives within

[Bridge]
(Whoa, whoa, whoa)
Does the way I wear my hair make me a better person?
(Whoa, whoa, whoa)
Does the way I wear my hair make me a better friend? Oooh
(Whoa, whoa, whoa)
Does the way I wear my hair determine my integrity?
(Whoa, whoa, whoa)
I am expressing my creativity..
(Whoa, whoa, whoa)

[Verse 3]
Breast Cancer and Chemotherapy
Took away her crown and glory
She promised God if she was to survive
She would enjoy everyday of her life ooh
On national television
Her diamond eyes are sparkling
Bald headed like a full moon shining
Singing out to the whole wide world like HEY...

[Chorus 2x]
I am not my hair
I am not this skin
I am not your expectations no no
I am not my hair
I ma not this skin
I am a soul that lives within

[Ad lib]
If I wanna shave it close
Or if I wanna rock locks
That don't take a bit away
From the soul that I got
Dat da da dat da [4x]
If I wanna where it braided
All down my back
I don't see what wrong with that
Dat da da dat da [4x]

[Talking:]
Is that India.Arie?
Ooh look she cut her hair!
I like that, its kinda PHAT
I don't know if I could do it.
But it looks sharp, it looks nice on her
She got a nice shaped head
She got an apple head
I know right?
It's perfect.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 05, 2006 05:07:33 AM
well, the beeswax is being sent out from the northern part of my state today, and on thursday ((yay its my birthday!!!)) im getting most of the oils i want to use in the dreadwax...so i just need to go to the healthfood store sometime soon and get the resto f my supplies


VIRI
when you see this, pm me your address, hopefully ill have the wax made in the next week

anyone else who wants to do a swap for some homemade wisconsin dreadwax...PM me



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: olivian on September 05, 2006 02:24:18 PM
i washed my hair tonight and put aloe in it afterwards. i think i am going to try to crochet my loose hairs in very soon because they are getting out of control.

last night i was talking to my dad about the people at the flea market staring at my hair and he said he didnt understand why anyone would stare because it just looks like a stylish haircut. (my dad is +60 and very conservative!) he said it looked like bo deriks hair in some old movie. my mom later told me my dad was talking about cornrows.... hahaha


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 05, 2006 03:12:58 PM
 :D  my dad always confused my dreads with cornrows... my mom just called em shitlocks  ::)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 05, 2006 03:19:16 PM
I was at the state fair Sunday and a girl in a booth told me to come check out their dread tubes. Is it dumb that I was so excited to have someone recognize what my hair is? I kept worrying that they weren't very dread-looking. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 05, 2006 06:06:08 PM
Its not dumb at all. I get reall happy when people take note of my hair.
Oh, and btw- HONK!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 05, 2006 06:11:27 PM
Oh, and btw- HONK!

lol; I wish I could get it as a bumper sticker. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 06, 2006 01:00:38 PM
today was my first day ack at school and i think everyone thought i was having a really bad hair day. wait till i come back tomorrow! ;D lol.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 06, 2006 01:12:33 PM
today was my first day ack at school and i think everyone thought i was having a really bad hair day. wait till i come back tomorrow! ;D lol.

thats the same with me, i went to get my schedule cause im starting on monday...and none of my friends who saw me quite made the connection...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on September 06, 2006 03:20:27 PM
What is a dread tube?

And I've been having pluto issues...I'm tattooing the planets...somewhere...(maybe on my shoulder? we're not sure where yet) and I havn't decided whether to include the little iceball.

And to whom is having problems with the boyfriend and her hair: Either he shuts up about them, or: DTMFA! My (now hubby) has seen me go thought all sorts of really wonky hairstyles, tattoos, piercings, phases. He's a square from a Cube, but he lets me get away with anything I want, because he loves me. He's only drawn the line at snakebites, since he doesn't want to have to kiss them, which is a perfectly acceptable boundry in my book.

He's become a little agressive protecting me at the state fair, since I was "spookin' the locals" with the hair and the tattoos...the people who rent scooters to the fat folks were looking and whispering(I guess, I have a tough time seeing that sort of thing) and brought out his very best glower for them. I don't like acts like that, but It is nice to know someone who will climb watertowers with buckets of paint to defend my honour. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 06, 2006 03:34:03 PM
Hahaha pluto issues....
Soo many children have had to beg their parents to buy that extra ball of styrofoam for their bedroom solar system. It was all in vain!!! hahaha...

Funny thing... I'm taking "general astronomy" this semester. Should be fun. There are going to be 300 people in my class.


It is nice to know someone who will climb watertowers with buckets of paint to defend my honour. ;)

Sooo true.

My beau is used to me being kind of an oddball too. I'm an art student... I think that is self-explanitory. He's used to my weirdness, but that's what he loves about me. If he didn't appreciate me for who I am I don't think we could have lasted this long. I for one enjoy being weird and for me to be with someone who can't appreciate that... well poo on them.

What is a dread tube?

I too want too know what a dread tube is...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 06, 2006 03:34:26 PM
bambi--
my mom wants to know what DTMFA means...she figures it may be useful sometime in the future...then again i figure it would be useful too...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 06, 2006 03:35:51 PM
Wild guess... I think it means Dump Their Mutha Fuckin' Ass
Might be wrong though.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 06, 2006 03:38:23 PM
ah yes...good guess. sounds about right.

ive actually be considdering it...sigh...i dunno...i doubt i will, i do after all love him. and for the most part he accepts my weirdness...his only issue in the last year has been the dreads. i figure theyre gonna grow on him


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on September 06, 2006 03:39:43 PM
bambi--
my mom wants to know what DTMFA means...she figures it may be useful sometime in the future...then again i figure it would be useful too...


Aaaahhh...It's a phrase from the much-loved Dan Savage from the Savage Love column: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove

DTMFA: Dump the Motherfucker Already. ;)

He also has a political campaign I can get behind: ITMFA
http://www.itmfa.com/

As well as the Santorum campaign...now the #1 hit on Google...

Love me some Dan Savage.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 06, 2006 03:49:01 PM
close but no cigar...



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 06, 2006 04:13:51 PM
close enough though


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 06, 2006 05:13:17 PM
close but no cigar...


When I used to play pool with my friend Danielle I would always say that! I think a dread tube is a tube of fabric that you put you dreads in? I have no clue. Im just guessing


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 06, 2006 05:15:35 PM
I forgot to say what I cam here to say! lol. I havent started anything with my hair yet because I need to get a different shampoo. The one I have makes my hair really greasy  :-\ Yesterday I saw a guy with dreads at Hot Topic. I was gonna ask him how long he has had them(they looked new) but I was waiting in line to pay for a present for milkweed* :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 06, 2006 08:19:05 PM
The dread tube (as the booth girl called them) is a hollow bamboo tube with designs burnt onto it; you wear it like a dread sleeve. I'll post a pic later. :) I should have explained that in the first place... :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 06, 2006 09:14:29 PM
That sounds cool. I was looking online and I found a really cool tam but I cant remember what site it was on. It was really cool looking and it looked like it was weaved.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on September 06, 2006 11:36:09 PM
Hello Hello ladies. I've been on craftster awhile now, and have been thinking of getting dreads for about 2 years. About a month ago I finially went ahead with it. They were starting beautifully. So today I'm rummaging around and I happen about this topic when i start to itch my head. Wouldn't you know I find a little lice. I started freaking out...

Anyway. Turns out my dreads are gone. My mom and grandmom  attacked me with the works..and the only way we could be sure that nothing was in them (egg or dead bug or anything..yuck) was to comb (and rip and cut) out my dreads. I have hair left. Its still semi long...but so very thin and brittle and I just hate it. I'm pretty depressed right now and I'm not sure what my options are. I know i'm going to have to wait for it to get thicker and longer again for the dreads to be how i like them. I'm thinking about getting my hair done at a salon and dying it blonde (I'm a natural brunette and figured i mgiht as well look like someone else) and then go for osme sythetic extentions. Anyone have a good site for a buyer because i've made falls for myself before and I couldn't see having what i made in my hair for over a few days let alone a month.

I'm hurting here. Show me some love. Please!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 07, 2006 04:57:34 AM
PiercedChicken

I've been half there.. Combing dreads, not removing lice tho..
YOU EARN A HUGE HUG! combing dreads hurts like a bitch!

anyhow, if I were u, yet I'm not, I'm me and I've done this, cut your hear healthy.
For one the hair looks way better and extentions will onlydo bad to the good hair left and secondly if you want dreads again I suggest having friggin healthy hair. I've made the mistake, both times I've had really bleached hair, dreads get brittle and dry and can break easily, only the new growth kept on getting stronger and more beautifull dread like.

I'll have to post pics of what I did to my hair soon.. it's atleast growing faster than it used to  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on September 07, 2006 10:44:23 AM
PiercedChicken

I've been half there.. Combing dreads, not removing lice tho..
YOU EARN A HUGE HUG! combing dreads hurts like a bitch!

anyhow, if I were u, yet I'm not, I'm me and I've done this, cut your hear healthy.
For one the hair looks way better and extentions will onlydo bad to the good hair left and secondly if you want dreads again I suggest having friggin healthy hair. I've made the mistake, both times I've had really bleached hair, dreads get brittle and dry and can break easily, only the new growth kept on getting stronger and more beautifull dread like.

I'll have to post pics of what I did to my hair soon.. it's atleast growing faster than it used to  ;)

Yea I know this in the back of my head. But Its gonna take FOREVER to get my hair thick and healthy and long again. And lot of it was CUT out. So it real retarded looking. It sucks that i've been so close to having what i want and now its gone. Thanks for the advice tho. I think I'm just gonig to go to the salon and get it dyed a nice color and cut and try to wait it out a few months and try to dread it again. (Hopefully it will only take a few months.)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 07, 2006 12:13:06 PM
Here is the said tube; I wanted to give an action shot, but nobody is home.

I think these would be fun to make.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 07, 2006 01:51:33 PM
PiercedChicken

I've been half there.. Combing dreads, not removing lice tho..
YOU EARN A HUGE HUG! combing dreads hurts like a bitch!

anyhow, if I were u, yet I'm not, I'm me and I've done this, cut your hear healthy.
For one the hair looks way better and extentions will onlydo bad to the good hair left and secondly if you want dreads again I suggest having friggin healthy hair. I've made the mistake, both times I've had really bleached hair, dreads get brittle and dry and can break easily, only the new growth kept on getting stronger and more beautifull dread like.

I'll have to post pics of what I did to my hair soon.. it's atleast growing faster than it used to  ;)

Yea I know this in the back of my head. But Its gonna take FOREVER to get my hair thick and healthy and long again. And lot of it was CUT out. So it real retarded looking. It sucks that i've been so close to having what i want and now its gone. Thanks for the advice tho. I think I'm just gonig to go to the salon and get it dyed a nice color and cut and try to wait it out a few months and try to dread it again. (Hopefully it will only take a few months.)

suggesting support group here... :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 07, 2006 01:59:24 PM
i made my dreadwax today, and ill be sending to viri in a few days, once i make a label or tag.  if anyone else wants some, PM me

i can do it with grapeseed oil, almond oil walnut oil and i might buy some avocado too, havent decided yet


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 07, 2006 03:23:38 PM
that dread tube is awesome! I want to make one :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on September 08, 2006 07:56:57 AM
PiercedChicken

I've been half there.. Combing dreads, not removing lice tho..
YOU EARN A HUGE HUG! combing dreads hurts like a bitch!

anyhow, if I were u, yet I'm not, I'm me and I've done this, cut your hear healthy.
For one the hair looks way better and extentions will onlydo bad to the good hair left and secondly if you want dreads again I suggest having friggin healthy hair. I've made the mistake, both times I've had really bleached hair, dreads get brittle and dry and can break easily, only the new growth kept on getting stronger and more beautifull dread like.

I'll have to post pics of what I did to my hair soon.. it's atleast growing faster than it used to  ;)

Yea I know this in the back of my head. But Its gonna take FOREVER to get my hair thick and healthy and long again. And lot of it was CUT out. So it real retarded looking. It sucks that i've been so close to having what i want and now its gone. Thanks for the advice tho. I think I'm just gonig to go to the salon and get it dyed a nice color and cut and try to wait it out a few months and try to dread it again. (Hopefully it will only take a few months.)

suggesting support group here... :P

We should make one.

Hi My name is PiercedChicken and I'm a former dread head. ::cries:: ITS...BEEN...SO...HARD.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 10, 2006 02:45:15 PM
I just got back from New Mexico for an homeschooling/ unschooling conference and the first thing someone said to me there was "OMIGOD I LOVE YOUR HAIR!!!" it was so funny, in 3 days i got about 9 comments on how awesome my hair is. the people there were so fun ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 10, 2006 05:52:51 PM
Today I got a residue free shampoo! So once all the residue is gone maybe my hair can start locking up


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 10, 2006 06:19:23 PM
I'm thinking about removing mine. one month today. :( i just don't know.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 10, 2006 07:07:46 PM
I'm thinking about removing mine. one month today. :( i just don't know.
You should keep them a little longer and make sure you dont want them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 10, 2006 07:12:47 PM
i know. i really do like them, i just can't do as much as i used to be able to. but i love not having to do anything. if i take them out i'm considering getting a perm. or a shorter haircut.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 10, 2006 07:14:13 PM
yeah, i seriously regretted removing mine because of the boyfriend last time around. now im keeping them for good. i hope.  he wants me to comb them out after six months if theyre still crazy looking, but it isnt gonna happen. he might be stubborn, but i am more so.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 11, 2006 12:39:47 PM
yeah, i seriously regretted removing mine because of the boyfriend last time around. now im keeping them for good. i hope.  he wants me to comb them out after six months if theyre still crazy looking, but it isnt gonna happen. he might be stubborn, but i am more so.

you go girl! do what YOU want.

my problem is i don't know what i want. ???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 11, 2006 12:46:50 PM
mayerlove you can comb out your dreads if you dont like them as long as you havent done weird stuff to them like PERMZ from HELL!

your hair will be a bit wonky perhaps, but it'll be fine.

Remember, you can allways redo dreads, specially counts for you seen as yours are still babies they can still be taken out with minimal pain and damage..

you get my drift.. i hope

if you arent sure you still can go back, but then  you'll have to go thru the dread proccess again :P doesn't really matter whatever you do, as long as its your choice


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 11, 2006 12:59:39 PM
haha, no perms for me unless i go back to my straight hair. i just dont know, because like you said, they're babies, so they're easier to comb out. i dont think they would be too much trouble to put back in, because i want bigger sections anyway. really it's up to me. all me. sometimes i have issues with that. :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 11, 2006 01:13:49 PM
Hey, I know how u feel.

I wasn't sure about my dreads, placement size whatever (yeh icky bleach and perm combo was bad too). I wasn't going to be happy with them, so hell, they're gone!
But I'm getting them back again, and I'ma do them myself again so they're just what I want!

*wow, name change  :D byebye Fckadog! Hello Red Alibi*


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on September 12, 2006 08:15:45 AM
Mine are over 3 months now, and they're looking like crap more and more everyday :D People can't even tell I have dreads, they think I'm just having a bad hairday, every single day...

I'm keeping them though, even though I hate my hair at times.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 12, 2006 05:26:17 PM
Mine are over 3 months now, and they're looking like crap more and more everyday :D People can't even tell I have dreads, they think I'm just having a bad hairday, every single day...

I'm keeping them though, even though I hate my hair at times.

Sounds like yours and mine are at the same stage. Are you doing the all natural thing? I am now, but before I had string wrapped at the top and bottom of each. Helps to section them off like. But yeah, I have soooo many loose frizzies, and 2 in the back that arent dreads at all! I think I'll wait til they get a little longer and actually sew them into my locks (like with a needle.)
Don't worry though, they'll start lookin 'more like dreadlocks' soon :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 12, 2006 07:50:57 PM
I was really wavering about cutting mine off, but I'm glad I waited. They seem to just get better with time. Although I was just out picking berries in the woods am really hoping there aren't critters in there... :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 13, 2006 07:24:26 AM
Most people who get dreads end up cutting because they realize that dreads are messy and take a long ass time to look decent.
If a person can't deal with messy hair.... they should have never gotten dreadlocks in the first place.
This is always something I ask anyone who is wanting to get dreads or pay me to do it for them "Are you ok with messy hair? And do you realize that this isn't an instant hairstyle where you hair will look fabulous right away? (whether you backcomb or go natural)"
If you want them to look decent in the begining, it takes a lot of hard ass work... but dreadlocks aren't and were never intended to be worked on to make them look better and most people come into this with this very idea but they still expect perfert locks. This idea should be obliterated... there is no such thing as perfect locks.... whether you do maintenance or not. When it comes to dreads... beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Someone who doesn't appreciate locks will naturally find them ugly. On the other hand someone who is completely at ease with himself/herself and appreciates the time necessary to form locks will see something entirely different. 
Anyway what this boils down to is which person are you most like?

Person #1 - Are you the person who got dreadlocks because you wanted a perfect style that didn't involve work and do you have low self-esteem, lack of confidence, or are you just a plain ol' leming? Are you the person who can't deal with roughly a year or two of bad hair days? (give or take - depending on your maintenance routine - obviously if you do maintenance once a week in the early beginings the messy hair days won't be too bad - but if you don't do maintenance your dreads will mature at the discretion of your hairtype and whether or not you subject your dreads to residues) People's comments really really bother you to the point where you think about whether or not you should have gottend locks?

Person #2 - Or are you the person who jumped into this knowing and accepting that your locks may never look exactly the way you want them to and that the process of them maturing will most likely mean many messy hair days or a lot of maintenance work to keep them tamed? You find yourself agrivated at times, but are willing to wait things out? You try not to take people's comments to heart? You are comfortable in your own skin?

If you find yourself being Person #1.... Dreadlock are not for you and they probably never will be. Well unless you change some day. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on September 14, 2006 11:17:02 AM
You forgot us #3's.....Those with dread extensions so we can hang out with the cool kids. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 14, 2006 11:19:37 AM
You're definitely cool Bambi. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on September 14, 2006 01:06:33 PM
You're definitely cool Bambi. :)

Well, yeah, ever since I got the dread extensions and can hang with the cool kids like you! Hehehe...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 14, 2006 01:08:53 PM
i really shouldn't post when i'm in a depressed mood... sorry. i'm still lovin' my dreads! (i.e. they're not leaving) ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on September 14, 2006 01:20:43 PM
Today, I'm totally loving my hair :P
I'm still thinking about cutting off 4 inches or so because my hair isn't that healthy. I accidently cut off half a dread a couple of days ago, and now it looks way better than the rest.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on September 14, 2006 02:03:37 PM
I remember when I cut my dreads off...

It was totally impulsive because I got obsessed with wanting to brush my hair (even though it's curly and CANNOT be brushed, LMAO)

I cried for days....I missed them the second I did it. I have them, I should post a pic of them but I don't know if that will gross anyone out given that they're not on my head  :-X :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 14, 2006 02:07:13 PM
haha, no! Post them if you want..

Wish I had kept mine, I threw them out cause they smelt bad after having been wet and lying next to the tub for a weekend.. (I was too pissed sore and tired to clean up the bf's house...  ::))
mmm I sound grose, I'm not, really


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 14, 2006 02:28:28 PM
whats that you say?? creepy pics of dreads no longer attached?? hahaha here's the one my husband snapped of me the other day when he teased me about stroking my bundle of dreads once in a while... i told him its not like i swaddle them and cradle them on the couch.... so of course, we had to take a picture of just that
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p64b63c42f0a9bf1f8051cddb5afd3ca1/ecf9d0e3.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 14, 2006 03:04:38 PM
Wow! They look like they were really nice! :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 14, 2006 04:09:30 PM
i don't wanna over post pics... so heres a couple pages where i posted pics with them still on my head
this was 2 summers ago at our woodstock wedding
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=53280.msg573252#msg573252
and on this one is pics of my roomate's dreads pre and post combing... and mine are after
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=13629.msg491639#msg491639
funny... i see i wrote that they'd survive one last winter... and sho'nuff, come spring, i chopped em off. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 14, 2006 05:33:31 PM
francie pants :
Hahaha! Looks like something I would do.  :D
Anywayyyy... beautiful pics. Awesome wedding and beautiful dreads! haha

You forgot us #3's.....Those with dread extensions so we can hang out with the cool kids. ;)

Haha I guess I did. But I thought you were already a cool kid?
Dread extensions though, as much of a pain that they might be to put in and make... aren't real dreadlocks. They don't make you go through all those wonderful stages that real dreadlocks do. At least I think they don't. Do they? They don't count... but in a weird way they do. They are fabulous either way though.

I totally suggest synth dreads for those who love the look of dreads but don't want to commit. Or they aren't certain whether they want dreads or not...

I also completely forgot to add that some people get dreads being partly a Person #1 and end up forced (in a good way of course) into being a Person #2. That would be me for example. If anyone has read the first post I made on here they probably figured that out already. Dreadlocks litterally have forced me tap into the real me. I've probably learned more life lessons from my hair than I have from some of my peers or elders. Like I say it's one thing to hear it preached, and it's an entirely other to live it. It's like being told to have patience and then actually having to test your patience. Dreadlocks have tested me... and they continue to do so.

If you're willing to try and learn from the experience and to take what's best from it and move forward at the end of the day... dreadlocks can be wonderful.
They can teach you to be fearless... couragous... patient... accepting... understanding... and they can really teach you to love yourself and truly teach you to turn the other cheek (as you may have to many times in the face of idiots who are afraid of something different).

Anyway... I definately don't suggest that anyone cut their locks. Unless they have a really good reason to do so. Wait things out... try to figure out who you are and what you want... then take it from there. You may be surprised at what you may find out.

At this very moment I'm thinking of that song "Give peace a chance"... "All we are sayyying... Is give dreads a channnce". Haha I know I'm lame thank you.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: BambiKhantastic on September 14, 2006 07:07:43 PM
Actually mine are becoming real dreads...The original extentions were human hair...Then I waxed, backcombed, tied and cajoled the same as everyone else. I just didn't grow the hair myself. :)

Although most dread extensions are pre-made and installed, I'm rather enjoying my As well as my mini dreads in back where some of my braids have fallen out. It's always interesting to wake up and be a little surprised as to what your hair has done.
"so THAT's what you're doing today. Okie-doke."

Really want to creep someone out? leave a dread lying around...It gives people the willies for some reason.

I've been having a good time with the back of my head dreaded, and my crown regular human extension. the dreads to get grabby, but I can keep the two seprate, and still have some options to play around with. Mostly, I've just learned that I like a TON of different textures on my head, and now that helmet season is almost past, it's no holds barred of tying things to my skull. Yipee!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 14, 2006 08:29:07 PM
That's kind of a different circumstance though.
I was thinking more totally synthetic dreads... fake hair... removable...

If you started your locks with real hair... well... they are real! You just got to skip the waiting for god damn ever only to watch them grow less than 1 inch in a year. But then again... anyone who starts their locks in reasonably long hair gets to skip this.

Lots of folks get real hair incorporated into their already existing locks. Either to make them longer, to give them thickness, or to save a dread that is suffering from mad breakage.
I don't know much about it though... seeing as I live in a town where we don't really have any decent hair stylists... well except Frank Marasco... and he doesn't deal with dreads.  >:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 15, 2006 11:21:50 AM
i just recently put some pink dye in, you guys like it?
im thinking of doing all my hair now...





also, i have 2 dreads for the price of one!-

(it looks like i have no little finger, but i really do...)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 15, 2006 01:28:56 PM
Wow Milkweed! Looks like your locks have made quite the progress!  :D They are looking awesome! I especially like the random beads and wraps!
How old are they now?

As for color... well it's up to you. The only crappy thing about dying dreads is it's hard to go back to your natural color... But then again that's the case with normal hair too.
Think about it a little first...
If I can suggest though... instead of dying just a portion of your dreads (like only the tips)... dye the whole dread instead.
I think it would have a cool effect. Also it will give you a better idea of what things would look like.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on September 15, 2006 01:31:29 PM
I actually really like the randomness of having just the bottom done, you always see the whole dread done.... I used to do that too, only I would strip my hair so it was totally blonde. Those are some pretty dreadies you got!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 15, 2006 01:31:55 PM
I agree; I think coloring the whole dread would be pretty. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on September 15, 2006 03:38:43 PM
i like the random tips!!! i used to dye about 15 of my 40 but would only dye the lower halves.... its too hard to keep the dye from spreading onto the other dreads while it sits.  my bf used to laugh at me as i'd tie little sandwich baggies around each dread to keep it from bleeding onto the rest of my head.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 15, 2006 03:42:57 PM
i had the pink ends aswell (there's a pic wayyy back in the beginning somewhere), I love pink ends.. It just has something special to it  :D

And it really goes nice with your (light) blonde dreads Milkweed*!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 15, 2006 05:34:03 PM
thanks guys! I've had my dreads for about a year now i think, and i used to have some of my dreads dyed red and it was the whole thing but it faded very quickly


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 15, 2006 06:43:53 PM
I used to dye my hair red all the time... but I got over it because it faded so fast. The water in the shower was always pink... Always... till my hair was back to it's natural color.
I've heard the suggestion of putting a bit of manic panic in conditonner... but poo on us dread heads because we can't use that junk (conditionner that is).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 15, 2006 06:51:00 PM
I did the little rasta wrap in milkweed*s hair :D And I helped put in the fading red stuff. It turned my hands red for like 5 days  :o I am thinking about dying my hair before I get dreads. I want to dye my hair a natural color with some random colored parts... But who knows if I will actually do it


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 15, 2006 09:55:49 PM
Awesome! You did a good job.
I've never actually had to dye only parts of my dreads... but I'm assuming that it isn't an easy task. Especially not with red on lighter hair. Must be hard to keep the dye from touching other dreads.

Also props on the wrap. It's cute.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on September 17, 2006 01:48:03 AM
well, i figured it was about time i took the plunge and posted in this thread, having lurked for so long and all. so, hi there!  :)

i got dreads only recently...they're still babies. my boyfriend and sister put them in for me with back combing, but we did it a bit at a time.
my oldest dreads are 3 months old now, and the youngest are only one month. you see, i was trying to keep a sort of sidways fringe going in the front, while the rest of my hair was dreaded, but teh dreads were hungrym and tried to eat even my tiny bit of undreaded hair.
what the dreads want, the dreads get, so a month ago i put the front into dreads too.

i don't really have very good photos to post...the two i have kinda show them. they also show a pair of sparkly undies i am wearing on my head as a hat. they were just so pretty, and too small for me anyways...

THUMBS UP TO UNDERWEAR HATS!




you can see in the second one the way my hair is red. i dyed it some time before dreading it, and now my hair is growing out. i think i'm going to make an attempt to dye my dreads as close to my natural colour as i can, since now that i have dreads, i want to just leave them be to do their thing.
dyeing and dyeing like i did with unlocked hair will only be a colossal hassle now.

i maintain 'em with just a tiny bit of the knotty boy wax, the knotty boy bar shampoo and aloe vera to fight the frizz from time to time. aside from that, i palm roll a lot, mostly because i can't stop playing with them.
you can't really see in the photo, but the ones at the back (my old ones) are actually really surprisingly tight already, and have minimal frizz. so i assume that i'm doing something right!
not that i really mind them being messy....they do their own thing, and i just live under them. heh.

anyways, nice to meet you all!!  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 17, 2006 07:44:21 AM
they do their own thing, and i just live under them. heh.

HAhha! I like that.

Also from what I could see through the underwear... your locks look great!
Sounds like what your doing is just fine.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on September 17, 2006 09:03:55 AM
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Also from what I could see through the underwear... your locks look great!

 :o that sounds so... not right. hehe.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 17, 2006 09:05:54 AM
oOo i like the color of your dreadies ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 17, 2006 10:35:08 AM
Not the topic here, but I love your eyebrows! :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on September 17, 2006 11:34:20 AM
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Also from what I could see through the underwear... your locks look great!

 :o that sounds so... not right. hehe.  ;D

LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on September 17, 2006 05:47:04 PM
thanks for the kind words all!  :)
just been reading back in the thread, and have decided today to go get me a crocheting hook and tidy my dreads up a little.
 i'll probably bombard you with photos then. i just love my little guys so much...i know it's insane, but it's almost as if they were my children.
ugly, hairy little children who won't get off your head...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 22, 2006 06:50:22 PM
I really want to get rid of mine... they're coming unknotted in the back, and I can't afford professional maintanence (and have little time/patience to do it myself.) I guess I have to think about it a little while longer.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 22, 2006 07:25:05 PM
you shouldn't get rid of them just for that, just give them time and they will knot up on their own.
but its your hair so do what you want :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 23, 2006 08:04:28 AM
I really want to get rid of mine... they're coming unknotted in the back, and I can't afford professional maintanence (and have little time/patience to do it myself.) I guess I have to think about it a little while longer.

Dreadlocks do that. Like I've mentioned before.
In the beginning they unknott themselves a little and then knot themselves back up again. This is why I always suggest people to either tie their tips with elastics or wrap them with thread so that they can't undo themselves. It kind of forces them to knot faster. Then again if you let them do their own thing, they'll knot themselves back up again too.
If you don't have patience for them though... maybe you should reconsider dreadlocks.
It really isn't a huge deal to backcomb all the ones that came undone and tie elastics around the tips or even just let them do it on their own.
Dreadlocks are one hell of a commitment... People tend to forget that.  They are anything but instant... They are the turtle of hairstyles (blah, I hate calling dreadlocks a hairstyle).

Has anyone gone through hell before?

I'm currently in the process... so as a clensing ritual, I picked out all my dreadlocks... because if I lose him, they'll only be a reminder of what we were.
Really... I would never do that. Personally for me it would feel as though I was sacraficing a part of me for something silly like a breakup. It would probably make me more depressed. Plus I don't associate my dreadlocks with my relationship. To me they are a sign of my independence and self-awareness. In a sense they are an extension of who I am, not who I am with. But that's just me. They hold different significances for everyone.
 
But if it's helping you... I guess it's a good thing. Kind of sad that you're getting rid of them so young though. You haven't really even gotten past the "teenage" stage yet if I'm correct. They were lovely...  Too bad. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 23, 2006 08:53:13 AM
^^i wouldn't suggest using elastics though, they get mushy and ground into the dread over time :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on September 23, 2006 09:02:40 AM
I think Naked Ninja just means to keep it together, elastics or string, it's their choice. Besides, we all have heard eachother rant about elastics!

daiconharuko, Dreads have no part in a relationship. They are you. Thats my exp. from a few years ago


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 23, 2006 09:28:50 AM
Naked Ninja- You are absolutely right, I know. And I do have the patience for them and like them very much. I'm just at a difficult time in life, going through this and that... the only reason I have to get rid of them is that it would be easier to get a job (which I need mondo badly since I moved out of the house.)
Thank you for encouraging me to stick with them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on September 23, 2006 11:02:23 AM
I'm not sure about mine, either. we'll see.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 23, 2006 01:43:23 PM
We each have our own way of moving on. It is too bad you had to get rid of them, but it was probably the right thing to do, and I'm glad that you didn't harm yourself. I hope things start looking up for you daiconharuko.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 23, 2006 05:30:48 PM
^^i wouldn't suggest using elastics though, they get mushy and ground into the dread over time :P
Yep. I think I may have been the first to mention this in this post.
If they are changed frequently, they won't have a chance to rot.  for some people it's just easier to use elastics. Some folks have a hard time with thread.

Also, like I mentioned... nothing really needs to be done. Time would correct everything.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on September 25, 2006 12:23:22 PM
OMG I'm getting my dreads tomorrow.... I'm really excited however a bit worried as well. I mean I'm 100% sure I want to start this journey but that's how I work.... Vamos a ver.... I'll post pics then  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 25, 2006 04:14:03 PM
Awesome!
Can't wait to see pictures!!!!
And it's totally normal to feel a little worried.  ;) Not that you have any reason to be.  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on September 26, 2006 12:44:52 AM
The guy can't make it today. Have to wit till Friday (at least).  >:(
THX for the support  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on September 26, 2006 02:58:12 AM
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They're gone now.

He helped me put them in. He helped me nuture them. For me, hair is hair... and I can always put them back in if I choose to. Right then, it was the only thing I could do without injuring myself.

that makes a lot of sense to me. it's true that your dreads are YOURS and an extension of you, not the relationship, but hey, you can get other dreads. ones that he has nothing to do with.
it's uncommon for women going through breakups to radically change their hair, to reflect the changes their experiencing.
 i know i all but shaved my head when i went through it...it took AGES to grow out, but i felt release.
and considering how bad i felt at the time, it was totally worth it to make myself feel a bit better.
whatever ya got to do to get yourself through it. hair is just hair. it'll always grow back, and it can always be redreaded.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on September 27, 2006 10:35:46 PM
Aggh!  I just had to come in here and vent for a second.  I ran out of the pure glycerin soap i usually use on my head and had to borrow somebody's shampoo.  more than 12 hours later i still smell chemicals on my head!  Never again!

I realized recently that my dreads will be a year old sometime soon.  I am very happy with them.  you can kind of see them in this picture:
http://solo.drangle.com/albums/04/Meidum_Reality_02_LR.jpg
I do basically no maintenance at all.  early on, in places where they were really bad, i would add some wool and felt it in.  it's still there and i think works the same way as beads do for a lot of you but is soft!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on September 28, 2006 09:07:14 AM
oh dear you are gorgeous.... i love your hair...  is it just dreads in the back? im suck a sucker for chicks with short.... short... hair... that can pull it off... hahahaha...

i made my friend a bald chicks are hot sticker when she shaved her dreads off...

anyways... very nice looking dreads


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: hot_toddygal on September 28, 2006 02:26:21 PM
^^Agree!
I cane in here to hopefully check out some pics, and this is the best one of the last coupla pages-I especially like the creature around your neck-!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on September 29, 2006 12:18:05 AM
thanks guys!  i've had a totally shaved head in the past - the dreadhawk is a nice compromise but sleeping on it kinda sucks sometimes because of how uneven it is.

thanks for liking my caterpillar. i love it!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: patchworkarmy on September 29, 2006 12:49:01 AM
im trying to make peyote stitch dread sleeves...has anyone found an argyle peyote stitch pattern...cause i want one and cant find any. i also posted this on the beads board.

funny you should ask... have a looksie:



great minds think alike, eh? I've also made an 80's themed one for my bf here:

enjoy.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 29, 2006 07:27:15 AM
OMFGOMFGOMFGOMFG!!! I am addicted to argyle! How do you make those!? The sleeves in general, I am pretty good at making anything argyle :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 29, 2006 07:30:08 AM
AH! i love those! i want to learn how to make them, good work!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 29, 2006 09:30:37 AM
So far this is the best dread sleeve tut I can find. So Im gonna try to make one :D Hey Kel, I will bring my sead beads to your house so we can try this :D

http://www.suzannecooper.com/classroom/evenpeyote_a.html

-edited cus i forgot to put the link-


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on September 29, 2006 01:22:51 PM
ive created a pattern of my own, and now im doing a personal swap with jezebel for some...i mean, im making her some in exchange for a new messenger...so im making a bunch.  ill post pictures when she recieves...i started the first one today at school.

if anyone else wants some but doesnt know how to make them, give me like a month and i would be willing to do a personal swap for them.

Ariel

p.s. im in WI usa


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on September 29, 2006 01:26:36 PM
ive created a pattern of my own, and now im doing a personal swap with jezebel for some...i mean, im making her some in exchange for a new messenger...so im making a bunch.  ill post pictures when she recieves...i started the first one today at school.

if anyone else wants some but doesnt know how to make them, give me like a month and i would be willing to do a personal swap for them.

Ariel

p.s. im in WI usa
I'm excited to see them. I really need to get a pic of my dreads on here. It's hard to take a decent one on your own. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 29, 2006 06:55:43 PM
patchworkarmy:
I saw your work on here before I even had dreads.
I've always loved the mushroom peyote. Really cool.
I also like the swirly tam you made. Really awesome.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: roskate on September 29, 2006 09:56:01 PM
Hello.  ;D

I've wanted dread locks for a while now and now i am finally deciding that i am gonna get them. I just have a few questions. I'm sorry if the question has been asked/answered already, i've only read up to page 30 and still and reading every post.


When first dreading your hair whens the earliest you can wash them?

NakedNinja was talking about a pepermint spray thingie to make your hair smell good and relieve itch and other stuff, can you use that everyday?

Annd

I think i am gonna get Knotty Boy wax, is there anything else that i need to mantain dread/start them beside a fine tooth comb (i am gonna backcomb) and the residue-free shampoo?


Thanks for the help  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: patchworkarmy on September 29, 2006 10:06:57 PM
patchworkarmy:
I saw your work on here before I even had dreads.
I've always loved the mushroom peyote. Really cool.
I also like the swirly tam you made. Really awesome.

*blushing* thank you! that shroom took me MONTHS of working on it here and there.  It's really huge! =0)


OMFGOMFGOMFGOMFG!!! I am addicted to argyle! How do you make those!? The sleeves in general, I am pretty good at making anything argyle :P
I've just taught myself form tutorials I found online.  Actually, I used that exact link, MCRguitarMCR... funny.  There another one out there that teaches you how to design your own pictures.  Basically, you can download peyote stitch graph paper (b/c the beads don't line up exactly one on top of the other like regular graph paper), and just color in your design.  Taking into consideration the size of your beads, and the size dread you're making it for.  Like your gauge in knitting. 
  The trick to knitting pictures/designes like this is that when you finish each row, you're starting not right on top of that last bead, but one step up and over.  Hard to explain.  If I find that tute, I'll post.  I just draw a diagonal line through the picture/design after I'm done coloring it in.  This diagonal line (from bottom right to top left) tells you where your next row starts so you can count correctly.
sorry that was so long!  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on September 30, 2006 07:27:56 AM
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When first dreading your hair whens the earliest you can wash them?

NakedNinja was talking about a pepermint spray thingie to make your hair smell good and relieve itch and other stuff, can you use that everyday?

Annd

I think i am gonna get Knotty Boy wax, is there anything else that i need to mantain dread/start them beside a fine tooth comb (i am gonna backcomb) and the residue-free shampoo?


hey roskate  :) no stupid questions! if you don't ask, you can't know!

ok, so the washing thing: the longer you can hold out, the better, really. within reason.
if your hair is very short, you're going to probably want to put a band on the end, or some sort of tie, while you wash.
washing can make a brand new dread un-dread. so if you tie the ends, this can't happen the same way.

i left my dreads 2 weeks, and they held up through the wash really really well. the short dreads around my face (i had short hair there) unravelled a little though. i should have tied 'em, damnit!!

and i use a rosemary and salt spray every day. it has some cucumber fragrance oil in it too, and some aloe vera. keeps my scalp feeling good, and my dreads smelling...uh....cucumber fresh.
smells better than it sounds. ;-)
i just spray it on lightly though. soak your dreads every day like that and they're going to get manky. and HEAVY!
so just a light spritz, not a soaking.

a comb and residue free shampoo are all you really need to start with backcoming. oh, and hair ties, if you want to seperate it all up neatly.

and you've probably heard it before, but sparingly, sparingly, sparingly on the wax.
i overdid it one day, and had these greasy, nasty dreads wapping me in the face. and they were too greasy to lock up. i had a hell of a time getting it out.
so go easy on it! you'll probably find that salt water sprayed on will help your dreads far more than applying wax.

anyway, you can find other people's opinions and their methods by reading further back in the thread. what i've said is what worked for me, but people have SO many different methods. always best to read around. ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on September 30, 2006 08:33:13 AM
Hello.  ;D

I've wanted dread locks for a while now and now i am finally deciding that i am gonna get them. I just have a few questions. I'm sorry if the question has been asked/answered already, i've only read up to page 30 and still and reading every post.


When first dreading your hair whens the earliest you can wash them?

NakedNinja was talking about a pepermint spray thingie to make your hair smell good and relieve itch and other stuff, can you use that everyday?

Annd

I think i am gonna get Knotty Boy wax, is there anything else that i need to mantain dread/start them beside a fine tooth comb (i am gonna backcomb) and the residue-free shampoo?


Thanks for the help  :)

First off, you need absolutely nothing to maintain dreads other than some good non-residue shampoo and time. Hair knots naturally...
Dr. Bronners is the most popular shampoo you can find locally. Most often health food stores carry it.

So you've decided to backcomb.
You'll need a metal tooth comb. Dollar Stores are the best. You can find these types of combs in the pet section.
You may want some elastics too to help section your hair off and tie off your roots and tips if you wish. Once again, the Dollar Store is your best bet. **A note of caution** Elastics rot. If you are using them, change them frequently.

Wax is not necessary. It really does nothing but help keep your hair from unknotting itself in the beginning. It can also help when your locks get really dry. Now if you excessively use wax, you'll do nothing but hinder the locking process and you'll more than likely end up with lots of problems like mold, gross stickiness which attracts dirt as well as other things, and generally nasty looking dreads. Some say that over the course of time, unproper wax usage can even cause hair to go rancid from the inside out. I've never actually seen this happen, but I 've heard of it. So in other words BE CAREFUL. Only use small amounts and do not use everyday. Once a week is almost pushing it.

As for washing.
I waited a week before I washed mine. I wouldn't hold out more than that. Don't be afraid to wash... Some people wait a month and I think that is just stupid. One week is a long enough wait as far as I'm concerned.
If you tie off your tips with rubber bands, nothing will come undone. On the contrary, washing helps hair knot faster. I noticed a considerable difference after my very first wash. It's awesome really.
Anyway for the first little while till your dreads mature, I'd only wash once a week. After a year you can wash more frequently if you wish, but it is not necessary and will more than likely just strip your scalp of its natural oils. I usually wait 1 to 2 weeks and then wash.

Now you wanted to know about the peppermint spray.
Well there are variations on it...
For new dreads, I wouldn't really recommend essential oils because they tend to moisturize which is what you want to avoid in the first little while.
I'd say to go with the rosemary water recipe.
All you do is boil a handful of rosemary in a pot and wait till the water turns dark. Strain, let cool a little and either pour over your scalp or spritz on your scalp with a spray bottle.
This works especially well when you have the itchies.
Now if your itchies are especially bad, try adding a few drops of Tea Tree oil or Peppermint oil. Make sure to focus on your scalp, not your dreads.

Now if you want to focus on your locks, I'd use the rosemary water with a little sea salt in it. This would act like a locking accelorator.

Anyway if you have any other questions feel free to post or pm me!  :D
No question is a stupid question...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 30, 2006 08:43:00 AM
OMFGOMFGOMFGOMFG!!! I am addicted to argyle! How do you make those!? The sleeves in general, I am pretty good at making anything argyle :P
I've just taught myself form tutorials I found online.  Actually, I used that exact link, MCRguitarMCR... funny.  There another one out there that teaches you how to design your own pictures.  Basically, you can download peyote stitch graph paper (b/c the beads don't line up exactly one on top of the other like regular graph paper), and just color in your design.  Taking into consideration the size of your beads, and the size dread you're making it for.  Like your gauge in knitting. 
  The trick to knitting pictures/designes like this is that when you finish each row, you're starting not right on top of that last bead, but one step up and over.  Hard to explain.  If I find that tute, I'll post.  I just draw a diagonal line through the picture/design after I'm done coloring it in.  This diagonal line (from bottom right to top left) tells you where your next row starts so you can count correctly.
sorry that was so long!  :D
mcrguitar and i tried makeing some peyotes last night and they are really fun to make! they are a little messed up but not that much, it looks like there is just a part were it got all knotted up and scragled. and  its really not as hard as it looks...pretty darn easy when you get to about the fourth round. we will get pics when they are all done :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: paisley-sink on September 30, 2006 03:26:32 PM
what other kind of shampoos besides the dread head hq and the knotty bot kind do you guys use? because no stores around me sell them and i get tired of ordering them.

anyone make their own shampoo?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 30, 2006 05:21:56 PM
Our first peyotes were okay... but I just made an argyle one and milkweed* is making a striped one :D They are so much fun to make!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on September 30, 2006 05:51:52 PM
paisley-sink: some people use the anti-residue neutrogena shampoo but i dont really know any other...

and heres our peyote sleeves :)





Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on September 30, 2006 08:23:35 PM
I made the 2nd and 3rd peyote sleeves :P We call them P O D A D Os and we say it like Pee-oh-dee-ay-dee-ohs XD we are freaks :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: slb2724 on September 30, 2006 08:42:44 PM
i have a question, theres a girl at my school with dreads, and they look HORRIBLE. everyone here has dreds that are tight and nice, but hers are like she hasnt brushed her hair in a year, like a fro almost.....why is it like that???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on September 30, 2006 08:51:58 PM
short and sweet answer:

they don't form overnight.  they tighten up slowly, over time.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on September 30, 2006 08:54:43 PM
Hmm... do you go to my school, cause you might be seeing me :-\

It could be just that- the neglect method, or she does no maintanence. My dreads pretty much look like a big mess... especially in the back. I do zero maintanence, and I mean zero.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 01, 2006 05:22:03 AM
So on Friday I got my hair backcombed  ;D I'm so glad. I had c 40 cm long hair and it shrunk to 20 cm. I have 40 of them.Yet it's soft and chunky. I allready have a lot a frizzy hair (however cover my hair while I sleep). My scalp started itching today, so I bought the rosemary, to calm my scalp a bit. Is it possible to to save the rosemary tea or I have to do new one every time I want to use it? I mean is it still effective after a few days. I do a lot of palm rolling (at least a hour every day) and some crocheting, but I'm not really good at it. Yesterday a friend of mine tied the roots with a floss. My friends and capoeira buddies said my hair is great, however my parents are hating it. They call it monkey jungle or clown hair... I don't mind as I'm loving my hair.... So here are the pictures ....



The before picture (I accidentally deleted thew one ment to be the before picture)



And the one I took today means 2 days old... You can see the frizzy hair....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: slb2724 on October 01, 2006 05:30:03 AM
short and sweet answer:

they don't form overnight.  they tighten up slowly, over time.


ok. shes had them for a year now, and theyre nasty


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on October 01, 2006 05:56:39 AM
Viri..

LOOKING GREAT  :D :D :D !!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 01, 2006 06:13:16 AM
viri. they look great.  fantastic!  and ill have your package out the door TOMORROW!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on October 01, 2006 06:28:29 AM
viri - they look awesome!  ;D

and slb2724:
different people get dreads for different reasons.
some people get them for the look of neat, manicured dreads.
some people like them big and fuzzy.
and some people don't even care about the look, and are doing it for the journey.
perhaps the girl is enjoying just leaving her hair to do whatever, and defying social conventions of having hair specifically to "look good".
it may be much more about letting herself be natural than looking a certain way. and beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder.
many people find being natural far more attractive than people who shave and preen and apply all the time.  ;)

this is just a guess, though. there are ALL sorts of reasons that people wind up with dreads, and all different types of dreads. they're not all meant to look perfect.  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on October 01, 2006 10:38:38 AM
Wow Viri, they look perfect! :) You're so cute. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 01, 2006 11:02:44 AM
i have a question, theres a girl at my school with dreads, and they look HORRIBLE. everyone here has dreds that are tight and nice, but hers are like she hasnt brushed her hair in a year, like a fro almost.....why is it like that???
short and sweet answer:

they don't form overnight.  they tighten up slowly, over time.


ok. shes had them for a year now, and theyre nasty

Dreads can take several years to look "good" (by your standards of course). What you see as "nasty" is what is infact completely normal for  dreadlocks that are being formed using the neglect method (or backcombed and then neglected).
This is exactly why certain people should never lock up... Dreadlocks are messy and most people can't handle that.
Of course a little maintenance may make things look more tidy... but many folks don't want to do maintenance... This is their choice of course and I personally love messy dreads just as much as I love tidy ones.
When it comes to locks, beauty really is in the eye of the beholder... and sometimes that beholder doesn't have an eye for the kind of beauty that can only be aprpeciated by those who appreciate locks.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 01, 2006 11:05:00 AM
Viri your locks look great hun!!!  :D
They are about the same lenght mine were at the beginning.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 01, 2006 11:06:29 AM
viri - they look awesome!  ;D

and slb2724:
different people get dreads for different reasons.
some people get them for the look of neat, manicured dreads.
some people like them big and fuzzy.
and some people don't even care about the look, and are doing it for the journey.
perhaps the girl is enjoying just leaving her hair to do whatever, and defying social conventions of having hair specifically to "look good".
it may be much more about letting herself be natural than looking a certain way. and beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder.
many people find being natural far more attractive than people who shave and preen and apply all the time.  ;)

this is just a guess, though. there are ALL sorts of reasons that people wind up with dreads, and all different types of dreads. they're not all meant to look perfect.  ;D

Ah jesus... I should read before I post... we basically said the same thing. Hahaha  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 01, 2006 11:46:54 AM
Thank you for your nice compliments :D.

Do you still have itchy scalp? (The rosemary spray really did the trick tough.) After a few month will my scalp get used to locks and will the itching go?

Naked Ninja: Did you have the same length of normal hair as I did? I was a bit shocked when I saw how much my hair shrunk, but after the first shock I love as it is.... ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: roskate on October 01, 2006 11:58:50 AM
Thx toeknuckles and nakedninja for the help.

I bought everything i need to dread my hair yesterday and am planning on dreading my hair the 22nd of november since thats the start of Thanksgiving Vacation, but i'm not sure if i can wait that long!  ;D

i still need to get wax, and even though i know its not nessisary i am gonna get it cause i want my dreads to look nice a tidy.


I'm so excited to dread my hair!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 01, 2006 02:59:02 PM
dont use wax!!!!!i used wax on my dreads over a year ago and it's still in them. I also know others that have used it and still cant get it all out, and is still coming out years after they have stopped using it. You can never get it all out, even if you think u do, u dont. It leaves some in there and even can leave a coar of wax in your dreads.
Some alternatives to just keeping your dreads tidy would be to use some pure aloe, put some leaves in a blender and use some of that to smooth out your frizzies. You can usually buy pure aloe gel at any natural food store around too.
if you dont want  your dreads to unravel after backcombing them u can put an elastic on the tip of your dreads, not the root (this weakens the dread). But you have to expect some, if not a lot of unraveling. Your hair is being forsed to do smething its not use to doing, so some will unravel but if you let it be it will all works itself out in the end, just dont keep backcombing and backcombing, this causes breakage and your tips can even break off.
My advice, go out and buy some aloe gel and use that to tame the frizzies until you are knotted well, otherwse you will have remnents of wax in your dreads for life ( and could even cause your dreads to wrot).

Though it is your dreads, if you feel u would rather wax i cant stop u. Hope everything goes well!
peace



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 01, 2006 03:33:32 PM
roskate:
Glad that you understand that wax isn't a necessity.
Like I said... just make sure you use very little of it. Whatever it says on the jar just ignore. Also, don't expect wax to make your dreads look perfect. The only thing it will do is hold things together which prevents your hair from unkotting during those first washes. It will also smooth them out a bit, but it definately won't make them look perfect. New dreads are always messy. Wax just helps tone down the messyness a bit.
 
A few rules of thumb:
- Never wax when your dreads are wet
- Don't bother using a hair dryer on the wax...
- Only use about 1/2 of an m&m sized ball per dread.
- If the heat from your hands doesn't melt the wax on your dreads by palmrolling, you've used wayyy too much.
- Don't use it daily. I'd say once a month is plenty.
- Once your dreads mature, it should only be used to relieve dry dreads.
- If at any time you decide you don't want to use wax, just stop using it. It isn't necessary.

Irishchicky:
If I recall... you used pure beeswax...
There is a difference between pure beeswax and dreadwax.
There is also a difference between proper dreadwax usage and improper dreadwax usage. Those who encounter problems like you described usually used the dreadwax improperly thanks to the companies who post faulty directions.
Many people on here and elsewhere (including myself) have used wax without any complications.
My locks are 2yrs+ and I most certainly do not have a "core" of wax at the center of them.

viri:
I still get an itchy scalp once in a while. Doesn't happen often though.
But new dreads are always itchy. It's completely normal. Once your scalp adjusts to this new hair, it will calm down.  ;)
For now just keep using the rosemary water. If you want try adding a few drops of either Tea Tree essential oil or Peppermint essential oil to the mix. This may help more.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 01, 2006 03:39:18 PM
yes i know that i used pure beeswax and know that there is a difference between that and dread wax, but i know others that have used it the "correct way" of just a little and still have it in there. Aloe gel will do teh exact same thing that she is looking for , tidyness, without any reprecutions, even if the reprecutions arnt noticable yet.
In my opinion i'd go for the aloe, it's all natural and risk free.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 01, 2006 04:02:03 PM
Yeah I know it's natural to have itchy scalp, the question was for how long. I mean my normal hair was itchy sometimes, just it was easier to scratch  :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 01, 2006 04:19:26 PM
Aloe is a moisturizer... It will calm down the frizzies but it won't get rid of them. Neither will wax. The only way to get rid of frizzies is by either tying your roots, physically pulling them in with a crochet hook, or letting time to it's job.
Also because of it's moisturizing effect, pure aloe shouldn't be used on new locks.
If your using aloe on fresh locks, the best thing would be to add a little sea salt to it.
Also aloe will not "hold things together". This is the only advantage to dreadwax, but it could also potentially be it's pitfall if used improperly. If you use it properly, it will hold the hairs together during the first washes and prevent new dreads from unravelling which not only saves time, it also keeps things looking a little more proper for those of us who have jobs that demand us to look tidy. Now if used improperly, this continuous hold on your hair will prevent it from forming new knots which will keep your dreads from maturing properly.
What I've come to notice is that most people think they use wax properly, when they infact don't. All of the people I've talked to who have had problems with wax think they have been using it properly till I lay out the differences between what "properly" according to the jar is, and what "properly" according to common sense is.
Also most people refuse to admitt that their problems are caused by "their" mistake. Wax is a nice scape-goat. They often neglect to mention things like how they waxed daily, or decided to wax right out of the shower because they were in a hurry.

Also, I'm not trying to say that everyone should use wax. On the contrary, I'm just trying to let people know that there is a good and a bad side to wax and that their decisions will affect the outcome.
But if you choose the option to boycott wax, that's all good too.
Choose your own path, just be certain you know where each road can take you.  ;)

Viri:
My itchies more or less went away after a month. It all depens on how long it takes for your scalp to adjust to the new routine.
Another thing that may help are scalp massages. Just rub your scalp from time to time (or better yet, get someone to do it for you). Feels great and gives your scalp that stimulation it used to get with brushing and daily washing.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: roskate on October 01, 2006 04:36:49 PM
Viri! i love your dreads!
i hope mine turn out looking that good when i get them!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on October 01, 2006 05:17:28 PM
viri, from wht i can see, your dreads look amazing! Do you have other pictures you can post? pretty please??


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Sirk on October 04, 2006 11:57:44 PM
wow 101 pages about dreadies!

I've been feeling its time to redo mine, I chopped them when 2 years ago and it just isn't the same having boring hair LOL

These are from the night they got chopped when I was 8 months pregnant
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/ellami/dreads/5797ff67.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/ellami/dreads/19f62cea.jpg

Now I'm thinking of getting some more wax and going again soon. Last time I used the knotty boy stuff and it worked well. Has anyone used dread HQ wax? (i need wax with my hair, won't lock up properly otherwise)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 05, 2006 01:47:22 AM
Mayerlove: so I think It's a better  pic of them, you can clearly see how babies they are....

And an other week of itchy scalp for me, cuz I wanted to try to lock a loose one with some soap (I' heard it does wonders like felting..) and it was great on one lock but got the other one's base unlocked, and locked too much the ends. So I can't really backcomb it again. I'll crochet in the fizzy hair hope that'll help. I really did freak out. It's weird how my dreads are bringing out the girlie side of me  :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on October 05, 2006 09:23:42 AM
I've been kinda skeptical of putting wool in my hair for a while (no real reason why), but when you put it that way, rhino, it makes perfect sense. Aw man, now I have to go get some coloured wool!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on October 05, 2006 09:28:05 AM
Does anyone have any wooly dread pics they can share? :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 05, 2006 09:38:58 AM
my YMCA card! but its a horrid pictue, and just wool dreads braided in.  thats what i did for about a month redoing it every weekend before i hacked off all the over processed hair and did dreads.

Ariel


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 05, 2006 10:01:53 AM
Rhino: do you have any pics to share?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 05, 2006 11:07:23 AM
wow thx, really damn cool  :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 05, 2006 11:19:27 AM
That's kind of a different circumstance though.
I was thinking more totally synthetic dreads... fake hair... removable...

If you started your locks with real hair... well... they are real! You just got to skip the waiting for god damn ever only to watch them grow less than 1 inch in a year. But then again... anyone who starts their locks in reasonably long hair gets to skip this.

Lots of folks get real hair incorporated into their already existing locks. Either to make them longer, to give them thickness, or to save a dread that is suffering from mad breakage.
I don't know much about it though... seeing as I live in a town where we don't really have any decent hair stylists... well except Frank Marasco... and he doesn't deal with dreads.  >:(

i braided my hair added colored mohair to the ends and strips of carded wool its real hair just not human ;)

Of course by this I meant that if you started locks with "your own hair" they are considered real locks.
If you have clip ons... or something in that nature... well it just doesn't compare. Of course you get the "style" but you don't get the experience of having locks.  ;)

I'm not one of those people who is against synthetic dreads or extensions or anyting of that genre. On the contrary I am fascinated. I love how unique some of those styles can get.
I also happen to think your hair is awesome!
wow 101 pages about dreadies!

I've been feeling its time to redo mine, I chopped them when 2 years ago and it just isn't the same having boring hair LOL

These are from the night they got chopped when I was 8 months pregnant
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/ellami/dreads/5797ff67.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/ellami/dreads/19f62cea.jpg

Now I'm thinking of getting some more wax and going again soon. Last time I used the knotty boy stuff and it worked well. Has anyone used dread HQ wax? (i need wax with my hair, won't lock up properly otherwise)


You had beautiful dreads!
Anyway I wouldn't recommend DHHQ wax... It contains microcrystaline wax and white oil... ew. Microcrystaline wax isn't good for dreadies.
If you have your heart set on using wax I'd go with Knotty Boy (www.knottyboy.com) or some of the others I've mentioned in earlier posts.

Also you do not "need wax with your hair" and it will "lock up properly" without it.
Too much wax, on the contrary, will prevent your hair from locking up properly.
Before I knew any better... I too believed that I needed wax. Trust me, you soo don't.
It can be a useful tool though. It will keep your knots together in the first washes and it can tidy things up if you need your dreads to look a little neater. Just use it properly and don't glob it on.

Viri:
Your dreads look soo great!!! Can't wait to see what they'll look like in a few months.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on October 05, 2006 11:23:21 AM
"(i need wax with my hair, won't lock up properly otherwise)"

that makes no sense....you really don't need wax for your hair to lock up, wax keeps your hair from moving and to make knots your hair really has to move...
and when i first got my dreads i used dreadhead hq wax and it took forever to get out of my hair, and off of my hands (not to mention it smelled like shat). and i've heard that dreadhead has some crap in the wax thats bad for your hair but i don't really know...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 05, 2006 11:28:16 AM
Aloe is a moisturizer... It will calm down the frizzies but it won't get rid of them. Neither will wax. The only way to get rid of frizzies is by either tying your roots, physically pulling them in with a crochet hook, or letting time to it's job.
Also because of it's moisturizing effect, pure aloe shouldn't be used on new locks.
If your using aloe on fresh locks, the best thing would be to add a little sea salt to it.
Also aloe will not "hold things together". This is the only advantage to dreadwax, but it could also potentially be it's pitfall if used improperly. If you use it properly, it will hold the hairs together during the first washes and prevent new dreads from unravelling which not only saves time, it also keeps things looking a little more proper for those of us who have jobs that demand us to look tidy. Now if used improperly, this continuous hold on your hair will prevent it from forming new knots which will keep your dreads from maturing properly.
What I've come to notice is that most people think they use wax properly, when they infact don't. All of the people I've talked to who have had problems with wax think they have been using it properly till I lay out the differences between what "properly" according to the jar is, and what "properly" according to common sense is.
Also most people refuse to admitt that their problems are caused by "their" mistake. Wax is a nice scape-goat. They often neglect to mention things like how they waxed daily, or decided to wax right out of the shower because they were in a hurry.

Also, I'm not trying to say that everyone should use wax. On the contrary, I'm just trying to let people know that there is a good and a bad side to wax and that their decisions will affect the outcome.
But if you choose the option to boycott wax, that's all good too.
Choose your own path, just be certain you know where each road can take you.  ;)


sorry ninja but I do not agree with what you are saying. So what if your hair is going to be frizzy, which it will be. So what if some of it falls out, which it will. Its all in the process, it's ment to happen. aloe is not bad for new lock, it's not going to make them fall out unless u go overboeard with it, just a little will be ok. in my opinion anything is better then using wax.

If you add sea salt to your aloe you have the added potential to dry out your new dreadies. They have already gone through enough dont you think? but if you found this worked for you naked_ninja thats kool.. in my opinion pure aloe would be much better. it has a sticky texture that will keep the frizzies down enough for them to look presentable, and plus they will smell good, other then, from what i have heard, the dreadwax smell.
Things should not be "held together", maybe i should have worded hat better, they are ment to move free, knot up like they normally would. if hair is stiff or waxed into place how are those frizzies going to move about, catch onto the dread and knot itself in?
Also how will tying your roots get rid of frizzies that are on your entier dread??? all that does is keep things tight up to your scalp, which in turn can creat more oil in your hair, or even weaken the roots, some elastics even will rot and can be bad for your dreads. if you just leave your roots they will knot up and do fine on their own. If you want to crochet, all the power to ya, i have no problem with that, i do that myself to keep the halo around my head in my dreads.
" for those of us who have jobs that demand us to look tidy"
I will soon be a RMT and know others that have dreads that are RMTs that went natural, or backcombed and didnt use wax on their dreads, and seem to be doing fine if not look better then those who used wax, for example myself. My soon to be profession is like being a doctor, clean, sterile, well groomed, but as long as you keep them tied back, and put on a head band or wear a tam or hat, nothing is different from the next person over with long sleak hair.
The ppl that have told me they waxed the right way and still have it in their dreads told me exactly how they waxed, which is exactly what you said to do. so I dont see your argument as justified here.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 05, 2006 12:02:38 PM
COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC!

i finally completely made dread wax, two 8 ounce jars of it!  and i used it, and it works well.  one is being sent of to viri today. and the other im keeping for myself, but i have enough supplies to make more if anyone wants to do a trade.  it is made from 100% bees wax and either pure oils of --walnut, grapeseed, or almond. it is a fifty fifty blend. 

Ariel


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on October 05, 2006 12:29:52 PM
Quote
Also you do not "need wax with your hair" and it will "lock up properly" without it.
Too much wax, on the contrary, will prevent your hair from locking up properly.
Before I knew any better... I too believed that I needed wax. Trust me, you soo don't.
It can be a useful tool though. It will keep your knots together in the first washes and it can tidy things up if you need your dreads to look a little neater.

Dude, Naked Ninja, you know a lot of stuff and are really helpful but sometimes other people have different circumstances and it's a little counterintuitive for you to act like you know how their hair acts.  Keep the good flow of information coming but try to respect when other people say they know their hair.  Sure, sometimes they'll be wrong - but sometimes they're not and i think it's a little disrespectful to always act as though they are.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 05, 2006 01:02:39 PM
It's really nice to hear that most (like 99%) people have positive feedback on my hair.It's really annoying parents are keep saying how bad they are. Like several times a day.
What is RMT? Anyway It's cool to hear someone in the health industry can have dreads. I'm in my 4ht year of psychology. My plan was to get rid of my dreads after graduation in 2008, but since I have them I can't even think of it. I plan long years with them.
I think proper dreads are only exist in sy's head. Altough I have a lot of frizzy hair and I
do a lot of maintenance in order to have less frizzy hair (my muscles are aching from the palmrolling) but I love my hair as it is.  ;D
I want to give a try to the wax as I have thick straight stubborn hair, I know it won't lock up too fast, so if i want to wash it i think i need sg to hold it together a bit.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on October 05, 2006 02:16:38 PM
When i first started washing mine again i was sorry i had waited so long - they really locked up a lot after it because they were free of a ton of oil etc.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 05, 2006 03:50:46 PM
It's really nice to hear that most (like 99%) people have positive feedback on my hair.It's really annoying parents are keep saying how bad they are. Like several times a day.
What is RMT? Anyway It's cool to hear someone in the health industry can have dreads. I'm in my 4ht year of psychology. My plan was to get rid of my dreads after graduation in 2008, but since I have them I can't even think of it. I plan long years with them.
I think proper dreads are only exist in sy's head. Altough I have a lot of frizzy hair and I
do a lot of maintenance in order to have less frizzy hair (my muscles are aching from the palmrolling) but I love my hair as it is.  ;D
I want to give a try to the wax as I have thick straight stubborn hair, I know it won't lock up too fast, so if i want to wash it i think i need sg to hold it together a bit.


an RMT is a regestered massage therapist. I love my course, at the moment I'm in my last year. We have a student clinic were ppl come in and get massages from us, and so far I havn't gotten any comments except for "how long have u had them?"
The thing you have to remember is that if you are professional, know your stuff, and project a motivated, understanding and knowledgable self, your hair really doesnt matter.
I think phychology is very interesting, i was thinking of taking that after my massage course, i love to learn. Plus think about this you'll have a little over a year for your dreads to form before you graduate, and after a year dreads are tight and awesome looking. Looping is inevidable, though some ppl are lucky not to get many, but if you just put a bead oy a sleeve over it for a bit, or just leave it on there, it may go away, or it may just hide it, either way its not a bad thing to have them. It just means that your dreads are tightening up and forming well, one side tightens faster then the other and you get a loop, I have tones but love them cause they make each one uneak, and have personality.
For showering, what i would do would be maybe just put some wax on the ends of your dreads to keep them from unraveling, but I wouldnt put it on my whole dread. if you just put some on the end it should keep most of the hair together. then if anything comes out you can crochet it back in, or you can leave it to catch in your dread again.
frizzies are your friend, they can show you progress, as your dreads get older, and pending there is no wax or other stuff on your dreads, they will catch in your knots that are forming and you will notice less and less of them. Within a year I couldnt seeing you having a lot of frizzies left, though if you did you could always put some aloe gel on them before clients or something if you were that concerned about them. 
"I think proper dreads are only exist in sy's head" who's sy? lol and what are "prper dreads" there are no proper dreads everyones look different, everyone has different stories on how they came to exist. Dont worry about what other ppls dreads look like, if you are happy with your frizz, and with the way they look right now, whats the problem? I think they are beautiful as they are, of coarse they are going to look like this now but they are going to look completely different in a year. Plus from what you say they look like they are forming awesome on their own, and you havnt used wax yet!
Also no hair type locks up very fast, no matter what they use. I had medium thickness hair and it was pin straight when i did mine, and true i used wax (biggest mistake i made personally) it still took forever to lock up. When I mostly noticed it locking up was after I would rince my hair I would let it towel dry for about 10-20 mins then I would palm roll them one at a time maybe 3 or four times each and they would tighten up so much.
If you are not comfortable with actually shampooing your hair right away I would just start out rincing them maybe every second day just to get oils out of your hair, towel dry for a bit, then palm roll them. 
I'm telling you, it will work better then any wax or gels you put on there.
I hope this isnt sounding like i'm telling you what to do or anything, just want to give you my 2 cents lol hopefully it will help out. If you ever want to pm me about details or to get my msn or whatever that would be cool, I love to help out. I made mistakes with my dreads but i have learned so much. Plus if i take a phycology course You could help lol, we'll trade heh. Anyways good luck with your dreads, they look awesome so far, keep up the good work, and give your arms a rest lol.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: phreeduh on October 05, 2006 03:53:50 PM
what would be the smallest "size" dreads possible? I've been fascinated by them for ages now, but I have very thin hair and would want thinner dreads so that I could have more of them... and I also have bangs that are only a few inches long, could they be dreaded too?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 05, 2006 04:19:18 PM
for sure your bangs could be dreaded, that would be cute. smallest is up to u and how small you section them.... cant say how small the smallest are though lol I dont think anyone knows the answer to that question


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 05, 2006 05:06:18 PM
My problem is like on their fourth day I wanted to see what they'll do with a little soap (residue free all natural of course). The first one did well the second was super it got so tight and stuff, bu the third did a weird thing. It stretched and the end got super tight but from the middle till the base it got completely unknotted. So I could not really backcomb it again, and all the baby and shorter hair got out of it (even tough it was tightend with a thread). So I'm afraid some more of my dreads would do the same thing. That's why I want to wait. Like 1 week of suffering can't do any trouble (beside suffering in vain). I palm roll them with adding some seasalt lemon spray and it helps a lot. So  if I still see some progress I will wait. Probably you are right but I really don't want ruin them just because of a little discomfort.
I mean proper dreads like ideal dreads. Everyone has different concept of how it is like you said. Sorry my English is far from perfect.
Well my country (Hungary) is a little conservative country, our democracy is only 17 year old. A few years ago you could hardly see anyone w/ dreads. It's not rare that you don't get a job because of your ethnic (usually being gypsy). SO I think finding a job with dreads is harder, no matter how good you are.
Anyway I gratefully for any andvice, I may not take all, but I think i can make better choices by getting more opinions.
Like I learnt here to be carefull with the wax.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 05, 2006 06:03:01 PM
^ exactly this thread is for learning about dreads, and ppls experiences. If  you want to wait a week or two before washing your dreads thats kool, maybe before u actually use shapoo just try rinsing them, just run water over your dreads rather then lathering them all up. Maybe the shapoo u use has a bit of a conditioning effect. I heard ofsome ppl that that happened to, hair unraveling in the middle and not in teh ends or at the root, just give it time though, your dreads will be awesome!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Souldier on October 05, 2006 08:27:58 PM
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Also you do not "need wax with your hair" and it will "lock up properly" without it.
Too much wax, on the contrary, will prevent your hair from locking up properly.
Before I knew any better... I too believed that I needed wax. Trust me, you soo don't.
It can be a useful tool though. It will keep your knots together in the first washes and it can tidy things up if you need your dreads to look a little neater.

Dude, Naked Ninja, you know a lot of stuff and are really helpful but sometimes other people have different circumstances and it's a little counterintuitive for you to act like you know how their hair acts.  Keep the good flow of information coming but try to respect when other people say they know their hair.  Sure, sometimes they'll be wrong - but sometimes they're not and i think it's a little disrespectful to always act as though they are.

Dude... I didn't say that I knew how their hair acted and I wasn't disrespectful or rude... I was just letting her know that it wasn't necessary.... Damn I wish someone would have come along when I first got my locks and tell me that wax was not necessary to form dreads.
Wax is not necessary... It doesn't matter what type of hair you have. It is not necessary. Period.
Hair knots... wax doesn't magically knot hair... That is an illusion that companies like Knotty Boy and Dreadheadhq have created in order to sell their products. Most professional loctitians don't use wax on their customers.
I'm not pulling this info out of my ass just to sound "smart".

Since last summer I've been "officially" providing dreadlock services in my area. I've encountered many different people since then (balding people, people with thin hair, people with thick hair, people with very silky hair). The process their hair goes through is all the same. And guess what... They are all super happy with their dreads and they are all super happy that I'm honest with them.
I've have also been taking care of my own locks for over 2 years. Through the experience of taking care of my own and other people's dreads, I've leanred a thing or two along the way.
I wouldn't suggest anything to anyone that I wouldn't use on myself and I most certainly would never just spurt out randomness.

I'm not upset or anything... I'm just not the type of person who lies down while others make statements about my character. I don't mean to offend anyone with my advise... I just simple want to give them information that can possibly help them or save them from making a grave mistake.


Regardless I think from now on I'll save my knowledge for those who pay me for it.
Plus now that I'm back to full time studies I don't have time to post in this thread anymore.
I keep answering the same questions over and over again anyway.
I'm pretty sure that 103 pages later there is enough in here for people to find their own answers.
 ;)


I think it's pretty amazing all of the knowledge we've put into this thread. Hopefully it will help those who are seeking answers.









Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Sirk on October 06, 2006 01:28:03 AM
Naked Ninja- thanks for your advice. I do remember last time using the knotty boy wax for thr first 6 months or so and when cutting a dread open there was heaps of gunk in there :o

and saying that i needed wax to knot them was the wrong word, I just thought they stayed together better with the wax.

So what should I do this time? just backcomb and roll? I'd love to hear some advice and I am definitely up for saving the $20 for the wax ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 06, 2006 03:08:39 AM
sirk, i'm guessing you used the wax "incorrectly" last time, but to be completely honest only u can decide how u want to go about your second set, natural or backcombed its up to you.
If yu are going to backcomb them I would suggest backcombing them and just putting an elastic on the end of your dread, not at your root. as  i said to viri one at the root could cause ur knots to fall out, could cause oil build up, and the elastic could rot and stay in your hair. From there just palm roll every once and a while, maybe wear a tam or a loose fitting touque for a bit to keep your hair down, instead of looking like side show bob lol.
Its all up to you though, natural seems fun too, more of a journey. Natural doesnt mean that you dont wash you hair, thats completely untrue all natural is, is you not brushing your hair. This method is a bit messier, and takes a lot longer but in the end are very beautiful


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 06, 2006 08:37:06 AM
Regardless I think from now on I'll save my knowledge for those who pay me for it.
Plus now that I'm back to full time studies I don't have time to post in this thread anymore.
I keep answering the same questions over and over again anyway.
I'm pretty sure that 103 pages later there is enough in here for people to find their own answers.
 ;)


You mean you are completely leave this thread? Plz don't do that. I understand you don't want  to repeat your opinion over and over again, but if you have some time or sg new to share plz keep coming here. I'd miss you personally.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rhino on October 06, 2006 09:13:42 AM
one of my braids at the back of my head is coming undone on the top i have some wool fingerweight yarn do any of you know whether it would felt into my hair i plan on sewing it through the two braids to make them one again.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on October 06, 2006 10:45:26 AM
yes, (wool) yarn will felt into your hair.  the looser your hair and the looser-spun the yarn the better - wool felts up way faster and tighter than human hair so it will tighten up around whatever hairs there are.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rhino on October 07, 2006 06:17:46 PM
okay so i dyed the wool yarn pinkish purple yellow etc and currently sewing up my hair with bone skull beads (tiny) that just arrived this morning yippie! will post pictures as my hair evolves im not rolling my hair either just letting it do its own thing with the wool/beads and mohair :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: SidekickFancy on October 09, 2006 09:15:58 AM
Wow, I just finished reading this entire thread over a span of three days. What a journey. I learned a sh**load about dreadlocks. I am now seriously contemplating getting them. I just have to decide if I can handle going through the journey that is having dreadlocks. I'm going to let it float around in my mind for a while before I do anything, because I tend to be an impulsive person and I know that dreadlocks are not something to be taken lightly.

Also, Red Alibi, I absolutely ADORE the picture of you with the blonde and pink dreadlocks. That's so cool. I really like the more natural pictures of everyone else's as well. It's so cool that there are all sorts of different kinds of dreadlocks and they all look so beautiful. The first picture of your dreads you took, viri, they remind me of spider legs for some reason. But that's cool :)

It's so weird how I just randomly got linked to this thread, and then spent three days reading it...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on October 09, 2006 04:19:12 PM
Hey everyone, guess what I did this morning!

Yep, from 9am to 3pm it was nothing but me and a brush (and a bottle of l'oreal detangler). No more dreadlocks for the wallaby.

I'm not sad at all, and I will have the whole story (don't worry, its short), as well as some, er, interesting photos, up shortly :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: andy8715 on October 09, 2006 08:02:39 PM
I always see this girl on my way to art class and she has beautiful dreads.  It makes me want some really bad.  I've thought about it on and off for around 6 years.  I think in a few more years I may be ready to get them.  It's sort of a healin process I'm going through with my confidence issues and all and now I feel like it's ok if I get dreads. No one will say anything but I'm still having insecurities. 

And this is why i'm not a writer.  My thoughts are everywhere in the above paragraph.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on October 09, 2006 08:32:18 PM
Ok, photo time!

Before-


After-


Result-



There was alot of wax in there. Alot. It was actually the only reason my hair was staying in dreadlocks. The wax (haven't used it since june btw) was collecting dust, which was then sticking to my hair. You can see all the dust in the giant hairball (seriously, the size of my face!!!)

I wanted to get rid of them because they weren't working out. I know you all say 'all hair will knot up on its own in time' and 'you have to be patient', but really, my hair was getting worse by the day, and thats after maintanence. Knots constantly coming out. The parts without wax I took out with my bare hands- no comb.

My hair does not knot up on its own. PLEASE don't say it does, I know my own hair... not saying its like this for everyone. Its my personal experience, and I'm sure you all have had your own experience. I'm pretty sick of being bashed on this board because I'm not doing the right thing with my hair, or I'm not taking the right attitude.
I really liked my hair in dreadlocks, but the fact is, my hair doesn't knot up enough for them to stay in for a long time. If not for the mass amounts of wax (which was gross, imo), they would have come out already. Anyway, I enjoy running a brush thru my hair.
Thing is... I don't need to brush my hair. Even now with straight hair, I don't need to brush. Just shows how knot-resistant my hair can be. NOT everyones hair, just saying mine is.

Things I used- blue goody comb, l'oriel kids detangler, seam ripper, hands, 6.5 hours.
Age of dreads- 4.5 months (may 20-oct 9)
Remnants- 1 white bead, 1 bullet, 1 giant hairball
Total length gained/lost- 1 inch lost, 4.5 inches gained


A last comment on wax (our favourite subject!!!)
MY EXPERIENCE with wax has been that it stays in your hair. Forever. I suggest using it in moderation, as it does stick dreads together very efectively this way. Too much wax will cause hair to become slick (wax has nothing but more wax to grab onto= slippage.). Wax is also a pain (literally, ow my scalp!) to remove, and does attract dust, dispite regular washings. If you can deal with that (which will probably be minimal if wax use is also minimal) then dreadwax is totally worth it! I have a near full tub of knottyboy dreadwax (dark coloured) here, and I actually think it smells alright. Ok, I'm all done with my rant and rave and removal.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 10, 2006 03:15:04 AM
that's sucky that u had to take ur dreads out cause of the wax issue, the unknotted bits are notmal though since your dreads were only 4-5 months old. Anyways i'm not going to bash u about the wax thing, cause i made the mistake of useing it aswell, and I'm not going to bash u or tell u ur hair can knot cause u think it cant, its your disision and its kool. Maybe you can try them again sometime by just going naturel. not brushing your hair at all, and only washing it with a resedue free shampoo. it could take up to 6 months to start seeing results that u like but its a lot more worth it I think.
good luck on your non dreaded future! I think you look good with or without them, though i'll always go for the dreads lol.
kudos though after a year and a bit of having my dreads I dont think I could get rid of them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: toeknuckles on October 10, 2006 05:28:30 AM
i think the way hair knots is very dependant on the way their scalp in general works.
i wash my hair regularly (without over-washing), but some parts of my head are just oiler than others. and the oil seems to make the hair not want to knot.
i imagine that people who naturally produce a lot of oil have a much harder time knotting up. don't know if that's you or not, though.  ;)


if you're dreads aren't making you feel happy, ditch 'em. they're not an easy hairstyle to have, so there's really no point in having them (or ANY hairstyle) if they are buggin' you. 

also, my god! that's a lotta hair! and i know what you mean with the wax and the dust. i had that problem. i didn't have much information about wax when i first started, and i REALLY overused. it was gross.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 10, 2006 05:33:09 AM
Wallaby: if you are happier with your normal hair it was the best thing to do. Though I like your dreads on the before photo looks pretty much the same as mine right now. Beside the fact mine is only 11 day old and I see improvement every day without the wax :). I've never used brush or comb in the last few years just my fingers every now and then, so I guess I'm lucky. The only thing knotted my normal hair was my cotton/polyester lined sleeping bag. Weird huh ? After a week of camping I always had the use a huge amount of conditioner to comb my hair out. Next weekend I'll go camping so I'm curious if   it will affect my dreads or not.

SidekickFancy: two of my friends told the same thing, and I guess they /you are right about my spiderlegs. Sometimes when I wake up (still being under the affect of one of my weird dreams) I expect the sudden appearance of 8 eyes and a hairy body.... LOL Though the more frizzy hair I have the less spidery it looks like. I have some problems with distinguish left from right so I can't crochet my frizzy hair in (the mirror is totally confusing for me). My friends will do it in the weekend instead.
Letting the idea of dreadlocks float around is exactly what I did. It worked. I waited almost a year. Then I had a dream and in it I had dreads. I was great. Then I decided to knot up.  I remember doing my first tiny lock in April. It was a huge shock. I took me time to get used to that single one. But since I have the whole thing dreaded I feel like if I always had them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: aliengrace on October 10, 2006 05:37:23 AM
i haven't read the whole saga of this thread, but here's wot i do for my dreads.  i crocheted them together to begin with, and i only use a crochet hook now.  the last time i had to cut off my dreads they were stiff and waxy from beeswax, but i suppose with a light touch i could maybe use this water-soluble wax stuff?  i don't wash my hair that much, especially as i'm allergic to permanent colourings, so my hair is not that colourfast with black, and i imagine i'd get quite linty with anything a lil sticky, and i still think i'd trap stuff in the middle of the dreads.  so instead i roll my dreads when they are wet, and crochet them when they are dry, and i've had people paying me compliments and even offering to pay me to do theirs (i told them to go get a crochet hook)!  i like that i can leave them for a bit when i'm feeling lazy, and then go felt them up when they go a bit fuzzy and knobbly, and that i can neaten the roots also, and my round end tips, which i keep cutting to keep my dreads short.  i don't put my hair in a wrap, it's got an undercut, so the roots are very visible.  it's true that my dreads look a bit dry and slightly fuzzy without wax, and they blow around in the breeze cos they're relatively light (and short) which is fine by me, but they are felted up.  i use a 0.75mm hook.  oh and ps, i have seriously freaked out a couple of my arachnophobic friends by waving my hair at them.  anyway, my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: sarahpanda on October 10, 2006 05:58:04 AM
Don't feel bad, my hair will not dreadlock either--it's just too thin and slippery. When I braided wool in with it, the result looked pretty silly, because my hair is so fine that it took a lot of it to make one chunk big enough to hold onto the wool. I ended up with like, five big, wool dreadlocks and it looked kind of silly.

It's unfortunate that your dreads didn't work out, 'cause you looked really cute with them! But I can totally understand wanting to wash and brush your hair and feeling like the dreads just are not working.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: the wallaby on October 10, 2006 07:37:24 AM
Thank you everyone for the kind words :) It is aggrivating though, because in almost 5 months, I used wax twice >.<

Viri- I've probably said it before, but I loooooove the way your locks are looking! I really hope you keep up with them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 10, 2006 12:33:19 PM
THX Wallaby. As I said I have trouble with the crocheting but I roll them much instead, and my kind friends =4 girls agreed to give a hand so I hope it will be neater by the end of the weekend. I start to feel them greasy after 14 ays of not washing them, so I may wash it next week.
I tryed alo gel, but it did not help with the frizziness, otherwise it's a great product I'll use it later as a conditioner. Do you think the plant would help like a tightening gel, or it's just not working for me. I have thick hair, and I never had much luck w/ wax or gel when I had normal hair. (I didn't use anything on my hair in 6 month just residue free soap and lemon juice.).


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rhino on October 10, 2006 03:12:27 PM
THX Wallaby. As I said I have trouble with the crocheting but I roll them much instead, and my kind friends =4 girls agreed to give a hand so I hope it will be neater by the end of the weekend. I start to feel them greasy after 14 ays of not washing them, so I may wash it next week.
I tryed alo gel, but it did not help with the frizziness, otherwise it's a great product I'll use it later as a conditioner. Do you think the plant would help like a tightening gel, or it's just not working for me. I have thick hair, and I never had much luck w/ wax or gel when I had normal hair. (I didn't use anything on my hair in 6 month just residue free soap and lemon juice.).

i LOVE the way dr bronners castile liquid soap smells after i wash my hair with it use it to wash my laundry clean the dishes and the countertops as well.. the bronners dries my hair out a bit but it feels squicky clean i got mine through amazon.com.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on October 10, 2006 08:06:45 PM
I "get it" that some people's hair doesn't knot. 

My husband is like that.  He's got shoulder-length hair and right out of the shower, he can run his fingers through it.  He has never used conditioner and doesn't "get" what it is for.  If he doesn't comb or brush his hair even for a day or two, it makes no difference.  I can't imagine how hard it would be to dread his hair, it'd probably take years to knot up properly.

Whereas... I can shower, condition, brush my hair out, then get the final knots the brush doesn't reach with a pick, and it only remains knot-free for about 10 minutes.

I'm currently in the "floating the idea" stage about dreads. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on October 11, 2006 01:12:54 AM
oh and ps, i have seriously freaked out a couple of my arachnophobic friends by waving my hair at them.

Hahaha I'm a total arachnophobe and when my dreads were new, short and sticky-uppy I freaked myself out ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 11, 2006 03:55:12 AM
Lucly I have no problem with spiders. I'd like to pet a tarantula once... :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 11, 2006 04:27:07 AM
tarantula really arent to bad...like a really prickly eight leged cat.  some are softer than others, like the chilean rose ones dont feel half bad, i had a pet one once, my cat killed in it a week.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on October 11, 2006 07:56:03 AM
I "get it" that some people's hair doesn't knot. 

My husband is like that.  He's got shoulder-length hair and right out of the shower, he can run his fingers through it.  He has never used conditioner and doesn't "get" what it is for.  If he doesn't comb or brush his hair even for a day or two, it makes no difference.  I can't imagine how hard it would be to dread his hair, it'd probably take years to knot up properly.

Whereas... I can shower, condition, brush my hair out, then get the final knots the brush doesn't reach with a pick, and it only remains knot-free for about 10 minutes.

I'm currently in the "floating the idea" stage about dreads. 
Thats how my hair is and thats why I want dreads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on October 12, 2006 07:14:14 PM
I have the internet again, so I was finally able to read the last 20 pages of this thread...and I'm all up to date now :) I loved loved loved looking at all the pics in this thread and I think it's time we each do some dread photo updates! I'm clueless about posting pics so these may be huge, teeny, who knows. Sorry  ;)

1 month:


3 months:


7 months:


These are from today, just over 9 months:


Here you can see the beautiful bead that Ninja made :)


Wow it's really hard to take a picture of your own head.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Digsy LaRaspberry on October 12, 2006 09:42:24 PM
... So my boy decided that he'd like to try dreads.
At first, I wasn't all that enthusiastic because he's bleached and dyed his hair so much that it's hard for me to get a mental image of what I think his hair really looks like. But since then, he's gone back to his natural hair colour and I magically discovered this thread.
We both think that I'm a little bit more gung-ho than he is about it now. He's still iffy about having them since I won't be able to play with his hair the same way, and he's looking for a part-time job. So I nudged him towards a solution: I'll make and put in synthetic dreads to give them a sort of a "trial run".
It's so exciting! We're planning on visiting a friend of his right after so that I can see the look on her face... She thinks dreads are ugly and disgusting... she's gonna have kittens! ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rhino on October 13, 2006 07:17:16 AM

Wow it's really hard to take a picture of your own head.

isnt that the truth! i love your hair you look abfab :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 13, 2006 10:17:22 AM
you should all check out the web site http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum (http://com3.runboard.com/bknottydreadlockforum) it can tell u all u need to know about dreads!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on October 13, 2006 04:02:41 PM
i like knottylocks^^
heres my pic, not sure if i put this here before, but its pretty recent :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 13, 2006 04:03:48 PM
yay, me too love the locks btw, very pretty


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on October 13, 2006 10:03:48 PM
I like Knotty Locks. Loccsta is annoying(unless he is nice to you) but other than that I love it :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: patchworkarmy on October 15, 2006 08:17:14 PM
hay yo everybody. I cut my dreads off!!!!!!!!! here I am world....what do you think?  I can't believe how much hair I was able to save by using the de-tangler.  worked like a charm.., =0)

and the before shot...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 16, 2006 02:51:28 AM
oh wow, how old were your locks? and y did u cut?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on October 16, 2006 08:35:14 AM
Its cool that the de-tangler worked. So why did you cut them?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: shannon1981 on October 19, 2006 11:34:52 PM
I've had my dreads now for 7-8 months.  I'm annoyed with them now knotting up at the ends.  It doesn't matter what I do the last 2-3 inches is silky and won't stay knotted.  I'm really confused by the crochet method everyone keeps talking about and can't make it work for me.  Anyone have any suggestions?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: patchworkarmy on October 20, 2006 01:42:06 AM
it was just TIME. you know? I've had dreads for over 6 years, and before I started growing them, my hair was already down to my butt!  Anyway, my ends were never really knotted up all the way.  I mean, I had awesome knobs at the ends, but also had whispies at the bottom, too.  I think it's just more natural that way. Almost NO ONE's hair  will knot up all neat and pretty like most of the custy dreads out there you see.  my 2¢


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on October 20, 2006 04:42:38 AM
patchyarmy! yer cut looks so cute!  welcome to a year of non stop running yer fingers through yer hair  ;)



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: aliengrace on October 20, 2006 06:18:36 AM
crochet method... hard to explain without pix... but i'll try, maybe i'll post some pix unless there's a good tute somewhere, can anyone recommend.

oh okay here's a really crap picture:
http://static.flickr.com/112/274560847_851b01c191_m.jpg

it's NOT difficult, just concentrate on the text, & then get a hook, and you'll totally get it. basically, you push the crochet hook through the dread towards where unwanted fuzz and loops of hair may be, and then you pull the crochet hook back through the dread.  the tiny hook will hook onto renegade hair and pull it back into the dread, thus neatening the dread.  you need to do this a lot, and you can do it slowly and deliberately, or fast and sloppy.  i find squeezing the dread with the fingers at the point where you put the hook in, helps compress the hair and therefore increases the amount of hair the hook grabs onto at a time. vary the direction and entry point of the crochet hook to complicate the tangling process - dreads are random knots and tangles, right?  it's worth pointing out that the hair you want to hook doesn't have to be on the outside of the dread, just in the path of the moving hook.  do this and you can really make a floppy dread dense.  neaten dreads -> wetten hair, roll, and then use the hook.  if you've got thin hair, it's better to wait til the hair is dryer as it will be stronger.  oh, and be gentle, okay?  don't rip your hair to bits with over-vigourous hooking.  hooks are also good for neatening up roots that stick up weirdly when the dread is lying down.

if you could imagine the dread in the illustration above to just be a bunch of loose hair, you could make random knots and tangles in that too.  the crochet hook makes hair knottier and tanglier, and whether you start with a messy dread, a loose dread, or a lot of straight hair, doesn't really matter.  believe me, you can salvage any dread disaster with a hook.  just make sure you rip/cut the dreads apart to the roots (or bunch hair into distinct dreads-to-be) before you fix a dread up or you'll just make the dread stick together to others even more with the hook.

also, if you can imagine the loose hair to be at the bottom of the dread, and the crochet hook inserted in and down at an angle so that it comes out at the bottom of the dread, you can make nice neat rounded ends to your dreads, should you wish to adopt that look. i like mine like that, the style looks particularly good with shorter dreadies.

other fun activities - making fake dreads (of course) and also attaching one dread onto the end of another.  some people buy human hair, dread it, and then attach it to the end of their existing ones with a hook, to get instant seamless strong permanent dread extensions.  or you could totally attach fake dreads, wool or plastic, to the end of real hair that way too, and cut them off later (or unpick them/condition then out if it's just temporary).  leave a few centimetres of loose hair on each end being attached together.

does that make sense?  you might need to squint at the text above and think spatially, but it's really worth it if you can figure it out.  use from 0.6mm to 1mm crochet hook, wider is better for forming, loose dreads, as it can hook onto more hair, thinner is better for tight dreads as it can fit through.  i use a 0.75mm hook.  don't be super rough with it, it's steel but it's thin. americans i leave it up to you to imperial-ise the measurements. just buy one from a craft store - they're only a few bucks if yr not lightfingered -  and farck around, see if it works for you, theory only goes a certain way.  oh, and you can totally make temporary dreads too, and then pick or wash them out afterwards, using this method.  crochet hook dreads - as used by the uber-efficient professionals - bangkok street hairdressers.  good luck!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on October 20, 2006 10:48:27 AM
bangkok street hairdressers?  ha!  you cracked me up.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: patchworkarmy on October 20, 2006 11:09:03 PM
patchyarmy! yer cut looks so cute!  welcome to a year of non stop running yer fingers through yer hair  ;)


Thank you!  I know, seriously, I just can't stop!  And other people like people I work with keep touching it, too! And I was at home depot yesterday and walked by this girl, and after my bf told me she said to her bf, "that girl is so cute!" yay for random overheard stranger compliments! woohoo!  =0)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on October 21, 2006 01:31:30 PM
Well, I'm going to do it for sure now.  Been trying the idea on for a few months.

My husband was not thrilled with the idea, which was holding me back a bit.  But we went on vacation to Bermuda and after swimming in the sea water (which knots you up!), I didn't comb my hair for 4 or 5 days.  I showed him how all these little curly chunks of hair were so pretty on me and he agrees.  It was different than what he thought it'd be.  They are sort of like little baby dreads.

I could just go natural from here, but I'm going to backcomb.  So... bought my flea comb, gots to find some elastics and he's gonna part me up and we'll begin.  He's agreed to do the back for me too!  Probably take a week or so as I have *so* much hair!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mitsie99 on October 21, 2006 02:50:56 PM
Good luck jpatti! It's so exciting when you finally decide to go for it. Make sure you post pics when you get em done!
On the note of parting your hair...I recommend just grabbing chunks of your hair rather than using a comb to part it into sections. You can still make fairly even-sized dreads, and you won't end up with a grid pattern of scalp showing for the first 6 months of having dreads.

shannon, did you give the crochet method another go since aliengrace posted? It's helpful to backcomb your ends before you crochet too. My ends wouldn't knot up either, I crocheted most of them, but some of them I just left as they were. If you're still having trouble pm me :)

And patchwork army: it looks awesome! Your dreads were beautiful too :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Digsy LaRaspberry on October 21, 2006 06:16:53 PM
Well, the boy and I went ahead with the synth locks...

They ended up about as long as his unlocked hair, so it should have been shorter, but at least we got to find out how he'd deal with them. I don't think I tied them in well enough, so we took them out the day after I started putting them in.
But here they are...
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2813/kiss2ml3.jpg

(He seems to like being kissed...)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on October 22, 2006 12:12:43 AM
Well, I'm halfway there!  We've done half of my head and it's already 23 dreads which took a number of hours to do, so decided to take a break and finish up another day.

What we did was backcombing using salt water as an accelerant.  Varied widths instead of parting... I decided I wanted a more free-flowing look rather than a manicured type of look.  So the widths vary a lot... some dreads being as little as 1/4 the size of others.  I did most of them and my husband did a few in the back that I couldn't reach.

This is the first four, when we were just getting the hang of it in the underside where they'd be well hidden:



This is when I had 10-12 or so done:


Since we decided to take a break halfway through, I have my "before" and "after" pictures in the same timeframe.  This is the 23 dreads on the left side of my head:


This is the undreaded right side of my head:


This is the back of my head showing both dreaded and undreaded sides:


I've been reading and thinking about this for some time... my hair is very thick and curly and knots easily even when heavily conditioned.  I think I shall dread easily, so I'm not putting tons of energy into it.  My dreads are not terribly tight yet, so I didn't lose much length.

I am planning my maintenance scheme as continuing use of the salt water and lots of palm rolling and twisting.  I can see already that I shall be paying a lot of attention to the tips until they're locked. 

My "residue-free" shampoo shall be my homemade soap, lathered into the scalp and rinsed through the dreads.  Once they lock, I'll do an occassional deep cleansing via a soak in rosemary tea and start conditioning via a spray of diluted aloe gel.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on October 22, 2006 01:56:16 AM
Very nice! This reminds me of when I did my hair, seems like ages ago even though it's only 4.5 months. Your hair also resembles mine a lot, not only pre-dread but also the number/width/length of dreads.

Mine are still loopy as hell, but I love them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: aliengrace on October 22, 2006 10:06:12 AM
parting hair: i spent SOOO much time parting my hair neatly (myself... took even bloody longer cos u can't see) into grids for dreadies, and then bits of hair kept migrating from one dread to another, etc etc so that was a waste of time.  chunks is fine, you can always rip recalcitrant out-of-place hair from your still loose forming dread out and put it in with a better-placed dread, later on.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on October 22, 2006 11:33:41 AM

I could just go natural from here, but I'm going to backcomb.  So... bought my flea comb, gots to find some elastics and he's gonna part me up and we'll begin. 

i strongly encourage you to not use elastics, they really don't help dreads at all. it just restricts movement and after a while the get into your dreads. and if you plan to put them at the root they will start to break all the hairs.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on October 22, 2006 04:40:41 PM
Yeah, I wound up skipping the elastics.

At the roots, even though we specifically focused on backcombing very tightly there so new hair growth would dread easily, it is very loose.  So I doubt elastics would've helped there.

What I'm doing with the tips where it's all wispy is I spray salt water in my left palm, put the wisp on top of it, rub it in circles with my righthand fingers until it forms a ball, then fold the ball back into the dread and palmroll the whole thing.  Some of them are sticking and some are not.  I just figure on playing with it until it locks.  If I still have wisps then, I'll crochet them in.

Someone else discussed loops.  I have quite a few.  It's hard to explain, but they really don't show that much, mostly just cause I have so *much* hair.  We simply weren't patient enough to avoid loops.  Doing half my head took over 5 hours; doing it all nice and carefully would've taken a hell of a lot longer.

I'm playing with what the dreads a lot, palm-rolling, twisting and spraying with salt water.  Once it locks, if there's noticeable loops, I'll just crochet them in.

I'm pretty happy with how it looks right now.  Because my hair is so thick and long, it was gonna be hard to make it look too dorky no matter how much we screwed up.  It was awfully frizzy at first, but the twisting and palmrolling calmed it right down.  And one dread in the back that my hubby did has a bit of a cowlick thing going on, but again, it's barely noticeable in this huge mass of hair I have, and I palmrolled it and twisted it into a bit more manageable of a shape. 

There's so many of them that problems with individual ones just sorta blend in.

I can make them look relatively neat by twisting them all, so I'm not worried about maintenance overall.  If something comes up that requires me to look presentable before they lock up, I'll just twist them all up and spray heavily with salt water.

But for the most part, I think I prefer the unmanicured look.

We plan to do the other side tomorrow so I can leave the house again.  I don't mind them being imperfect, but I do mind only having half a head of them, which looks kinda dorky. 

You know what surprised me?  I've been thinking about this for months.  I've read this *entire* thread and lots more on other web sites.  I've discussed with friends and family.  I really thought it through and was very sure before we began.  And yet... I was sorta sad doing it.  My hair is very thick and long and curly and I was losing *that* while I was gaining the dreads. 

Luckily, I *do* like the dreads, cause it would majorly suck if I didn't!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 22, 2006 05:07:43 PM
so even though ive only had them two months now...i think im going to comb them out over this long weekend ((i have three days off this week)) because well...i miss being able to have very brightly colored hair. and i dont understand how to dye my hair with the dreads.  so im going to comb them out between wednesday and nect sunday...then my friends dawn and jeremy, along with my boyfriend ((yes my boyfriend dyes my hair)) theyre going to dye my hair back to my mermaid red its been on and off for the last year

oh my gosh its been a year already.

Ariel

wish me luck...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on October 22, 2006 06:52:37 PM
I also combed mine out. I love playing with my hair- right now there are velcro curlers in it for tomorrow. I loooove dreads, just not on me I guess.... :( I have almost a full jar of wax if anyone wants to buy it off me.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Miss Mermaid Strikes Back on October 22, 2006 07:01:35 PM
yay for being able to play with your hair!  i have one i combed out so i keep playing with the kinked up hair in that spot.  mines too short to do curlers in...but when its out my boyfriend is dying it red again...yay for red heads.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: aliengrace on October 23, 2006 04:23:10 AM
my 2 cents again, but with bleaching with dreadlocks, i find that if you bleach dreads already formed, they are usually a bit darker underneath (and don't get to the core at all).  if you bleach the roots (loose) as they appear (before they grow and knot up) you can bleach all of the hair obviously.  however, it's easier to overbleach your dreads than with loose hair, imho, so u have to apply the bleach carefully, not make it too sloppy when you mix the peroxide up, or your dreads will end up fried like mine did at the ends and then start loosening.  also, wax obviously inhibits dye application, so lots of hot water and soap/shampoo beforehand is a good idea if u wax.  also, i find i need *more* dye with dreads than with loose hair, i guess cos you can't comb it through, and it soaks in and is wasted a little bit more.  other than that i find dyeing dreads is pretty much like dyeing loose hair. x


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on October 23, 2006 06:22:58 AM
Very nice! This reminds me of when I did my hair, seems like ages ago even though it's only 4.5 months. Your hair also resembles mine a lot, not only pre-dread but also the number/width/length of dreads.

Mine are still loopy as hell, but I love them.

Could you post a pic so I can see my future?  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 27, 2006 09:47:52 AM
Hooray my dread is a month old. More loose hair  but I haven't done any maintenance (beside a bit of palm rolling) in the past 2 weeks. The itchiness is almost completely gone. My capoeira mate will help to crochet the loose hair in an I'll wash it then for the first time. It's weird, it's not smelly at all. ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: MCRguitarMCR on October 27, 2006 10:52:36 AM
I was talking to some one yesterday who had dreads for one day. THey used some hair srapy thing to have temorary dreads  ??? THey looked fake and I was still confused...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on October 27, 2006 12:15:24 PM
yep I have heard about fake dreads like roll your hair add a  LOT of hair products and voi a la. (I tried to do it once for the carnaval but i didn't succeed:) But it lasts till the first wash.  I can't imagine that you can have it for that long (even with adding more adding hairspray like ever day). Anyway I think it destroys hair so much that if you are bored with it you end up cutting your hair anyway.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on October 28, 2006 10:25:14 AM
awesome to hear that your dreads are a month old! Mine are a year and 3 weeks by my calculations! WOOHOO


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on October 28, 2006 01:33:13 PM
i did lil dreads once, but im forever changing but i used loads of product and people thought id had em years... fuck brushing them out was hell, i think i cut my hair off.... yep haha!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: SidekickFancy on October 28, 2006 02:04:43 PM
I'm contemplating dreadlocks, not sure about it yet. My dad bought a flea comb for me, but the teeth are like, less than three fourths of an inch long. Is this long enough to do dreadlocks or not? Should I get one with longer teeth? Or is that fine?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on October 30, 2006 07:30:13 AM
To anyone contemplating dreads (in a permanent sense) I have to give my two cents. Please take the time to consider if you can make the commitment! It really is a lot more work than you think for the first few months. Not to mention, a lot of changes in attitude from others.

I had my dreads for a couple of months, and it took me about 2 1/2 weeks of messing with my hair to get them in there. I wasn't granted the luxury of straight time to put them in, nor was I given any aid. I skipped the backcombing method altogether after my first few attempts. MY very fine, very straight hair will not take it. Instead I used what my dreaded friend called his "rip and tear method" Basically, you take the section of hair, divide it in half, cross the sections and pull hard in opposite directions. Do this over and over, re-dividing the hair into new sections every time, until you reach the bottom and have lovely tangled hair. Follow this up with lots of plam-rolling and Knotty Boys.

Unfortunately, I was given the ultimatum by my boss at the time that I either lose the dreads or lose my job. I combed out my little babies.

Here is a procedure pic that I took after the first few rows were installed in the back:


And of course, the entire head complete:


Now I want them little babies back, and I understand more what my rights are as an employee. Nobody an tell me how to wear my hair!!! I'm doing em again, in a few weeks. I have approximately this to work with, so they will be pretty short again:


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: SidekickFancy on October 30, 2006 06:55:04 PM
Unfortunately, I was given the ultimatum by my boss at the time that I either lose the dreads or lose my job. I combed out my little babies.

Now I want them little babies back, and I understand more what my rights are as an employee. Nobody an tell me how to wear my hair!!! I'm doing em again, in a few weeks. I have approximately this to work with, so they will be pretty short again:

Yay! I'm glad you're putting them back. No one should tell you how to wear your hair. They don't even look unruly, so I don't even know what the problem is. It's great you're putting 'em back in.
Here's to sticking it to the...man?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: cumber1137 on October 30, 2006 06:57:21 PM
A friend of mine was going to have her sister-n-law dread my hair but she never made a meeting. So I've always had dread envy. :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 13, 2006 09:57:26 AM
woo one year and three months today!!
Sorry for the not so good web cam pics!








and a time line fore kicks
enjoy!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on November 13, 2006 11:02:04 AM
Nice timeline!

Anyway, I've had dreads before, and have posted here before in despair when i had to take them out because of lice

Its sucked. I never had lice before and i didn't know of any of way to get them out other then combing, mostly cutting my dreads out.

I made a promise to myself that i'd take care of my hair like a non-dreadie for a while. Got it cut, conditioned it to make it thick and full again. etc, and that i'd start again around halloween.

So my head as been neglected for about 2 and a half weeks. There are a bunch of little dreads all over, and i look like a cave woman once again.

Soonly i will sit down and start to develop my dreads. (I wish i had help..they take forever and it took me weeks the last time to get my whole head done doing a little every night.

I'm still freaking out whenever my head itches. I swears the buggies have come back to get me...ECK.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on November 13, 2006 01:22:10 PM
Happy 15th month birthday to you. Great dreads btw.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 13, 2006 02:07:35 PM
thanks viri. *hugs*
pierced chicken, sorry to hear about your dreads, but that's awesome that u are getting a new set. Try putting some tee tree oil in your shampoo, it's said to keep unwanted bugs away.

WOO


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on November 13, 2006 03:46:49 PM
ahaha! i just look at those pics on knottylocs xD


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 13, 2006 05:20:43 PM
haha yeah I had to share them on here too!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on November 16, 2006 02:59:39 AM
Help me, my dreaded friends!

I'm going through a 'grrr my dreads are really gettting on my nerves' phase. They're long enough to hang in my face and annoy me, but not quite long enough to tie back. Most of the time I just end up wearing a Buff to hold them off my face.

I've lost a lot of weight recently (yay me!) and now I've regained cheekbones, a little nagging voice keeps telling me, 'get your hair cut! you look goooood with short hair!'

I need some encouragement and motivation to get me through these dark days because I don't want to go back to the endless and expensive round of washing my hair every day and getting it cut every 5 weeks. Help me please!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 16, 2006 07:33:48 AM
congrats on losing the weight. As for the dreads u could always wear a head band. I wear them all the time!
I'm sure they look awesome, post some pics!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on November 16, 2006 10:42:22 AM
i felted wool onto the ends of some short locks to make them reach my ears.  maybe this would work for you?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on November 16, 2006 03:57:03 PM
Yeah I wear headband all the time (or headscarf or that big rubberband thingie that long haired soccer players usually wear, when they don't want pony tail). Think of the hair style that suited you the best while you had normal hair/ or that can show off your skinny cheekbones the best. Like if you want to go for the pony tail look you  can put that big rubber band further from your front head or do two pony tails w/ matching rubber band etc.
That's one of the reasons I love to have dreads I have to wear colorful things on my heaf every day. ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on November 17, 2006 03:32:02 AM
Thanks guys, you're really helping. I'm just about to go off for a nice holiday in the sun so that will no doubt help -- the sun and sea will soon get my dreadies looking tight, blonde and fab ;D

I'll post some pix when I get back.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 17, 2006 10:21:09 AM
awesome have fun in the sun!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: green monk on November 19, 2006 11:16:24 AM
wow. alot has changed since i last read this thread. namely, naked ninja isnt commenting anymore.  i was greatful for all of her awesome tips on dread care.

well, ive done it! :P i hade a few random dreads towards the end of the summer and was trying to decide if i wanted a whole head. i took em out, got a cut, then decided that i did indeed want a whole head of em!!  

um, it helps quite a bit that i had a 2.5 month outward bound semester in the woods and on the sea to help them get established :P they range in age from 1.5 to 1 month old, to not quite done yet. the past month was so busy i didnt have time to finish up the back, and i think i need someone else to do that part for me :) probably today or tomorrow, now that we are back home and we have too much time to deal with.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/greenmonk_e/P1000854.jpg

there are nuts (from a hardware store) in there, it was all i could find in gorham, nh in the middle of course :P i think they look almost the same as normal hair...from a distance.



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on November 19, 2006 11:17:50 AM
awesome, they look great!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: YamiNeko on December 03, 2006 12:36:34 PM
 I read from this site, that if you have dreadlocks and decide you don't want it anymore you have to shave yourself blad and regrow your hair again. Is that true? Cause i've been itching to dreadlock my head for college. which is in 2 years =)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on December 03, 2006 02:38:02 PM
NO. This is not true. You may loose a lot from the lenght of your hair but if you patiente enough you can save a few inches.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on December 04, 2006 03:04:51 PM
Here I post a pic of my dreads two months old. You can see the change. Ok it's not just  the benefit from time but the benefit of over 10 hours of crocheting 2 weeks ago. However I have some loose hair again.


Winter is coming and I still don't have any headwear that would cover my ears. I'm not sure what I want to make: a headband from chunky yarn or crochet an other tam.  And what about you? How do you protect your head when the fog comes?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on December 04, 2006 03:16:54 PM
i have a crocheted orange tube that can be a scarf or a hat depending on where i am coldest.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on December 05, 2006 02:59:21 AM
woo nice pic!!! I have a very fuzzy, big hat that i wear in the qinter, think i may wear it today actually -10 out there this morning  :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on December 05, 2006 05:20:39 AM
Now when I'm riding my bike to school I usually have a scarf tied around my head. But when I can I wear my long felted witch-hat. It's the only hat I have that protects my ears against the cold now =/ I need to knit or crochet myself a few tams or something..

Nice dreads btw Viri!  :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: plague angel on December 06, 2006 10:50:17 PM
hi everyone!
i've had my dreds since april this year, when i got themm hair shrank by like, half its length and since then i on think it's gotten any longer. my quetion is, how long will it take to look longer?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on December 07, 2006 05:59:17 AM
it all depends on how fast your hair took to grow before, and just remember your hair is going to knot, and look like it's not growing as it is growing so it could take a while. Since you did only do it an april it may lengthen out some in a while.
it;s hard to say. Do u have any pics?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: plague angel on December 07, 2006 03:47:24 PM
thanks irish_chicky! i thought it was something like that, but being a newbie i wasnt sure. i'll take pics this afternoon if anyones interested, i dyed them dark pink/purple yesterday so my face and hands (and just about everywhere else) is stained pink, but at least my hair looks rad!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on December 07, 2006 06:22:19 PM
sweet, sounds awesome, and ofcoarse i want to see pics lol


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on December 08, 2006 08:20:42 AM
Me to :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Glitterandgore on December 10, 2006 08:04:38 PM
Hello all of my dreaded loves. 

I got a bad hair cut.... Really bad.  She cut for all of my hair.  :-\  I'm growing it back out though and I've pretty much gotten over being upset about it but I still want my freakin hair back cause I REALLLLLLLLY wat to dread it.

Can anyone think of a way to help my hair grow.  I've known about sage helping but Sage smoke makes me break out so the thought of putting it on my head scares me and my mum and bestie told me to use some horse shampoo.   ???  I dun remember what it was called though. 

Any thoughts or suggestions would really help.

And I already know about synth dreads and have had them before, before anyone suggests it.   ;)


Thanx in advance.

<3


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: plague angel on December 10, 2006 11:12:40 PM
from experience (i too have had all my hair hacked of by some shonky hairdresser wannabe) not much apart from a good diet and general health is gonna make it grow faster. i cant see much making a noticeable difference apart from hair extensions.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on December 11, 2006 02:26:30 AM
I agree, try some hair vitamines, and regularry (the more the better) massaging your scalp.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Red Alibi on December 11, 2006 03:14:22 AM
I remember vaguely that keeping your head warm makes hair grow faster.
BUT take in to mind hair will also fall out quicker also.

There is no miracle cure to a short hair cut. I have to wait for my hair to grow also.. It's sad but time is the only thing that will make your hair grow, vitamins, minerals and whatever suplement wont help grow it but will help it grow somewhat stronger perhaps.

Viri, I'm not sure about massaging your scalp. It could help blood circulation but it might also over stimulate the hair folicles and just give you greasy hair.. but maybe it just feels nice and that makes it worth it :)

And besides, if there were a miracle hair growth thinggy.. don't you think everyone would know about it?  ::)

My final suggestion I guess is this:

People say that you can will thing to happen, like women willed their boobs to grow and they supposedly did. Maybe in this dire situation we could will out hair to grow by thinking about it? Or is this just my I just got out of bed head talking nonsense??? ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on December 11, 2006 04:39:21 PM
I've read this mineral and massage thing in a welness mag's q&a, well it does not have a reputation like nature or science but it can be true. I don't think it would do wonders.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Glitterandgore on December 18, 2006 05:59:35 PM
My final suggestion I guess is this:

People say that you can will thing to happen, like women willed their boobs to grow and they supposedly did. Maybe in this dire situation we could will out hair to grow by thinking about it? Or is this just my I just got out of bed head talking nonsense??? ;)

That isn't nonsense at all actually.  Good suggestion.  I'll try everything I can think of honestly.  Thankyew.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spikelvr44 on January 06, 2007 11:21:26 PM
wow this information posting is long. well these messages have finally convinced me to dread my hair starting tonight. my mom thinks i shouldn't but she says she will help me. so so excited ;D. i'll post a pic


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on January 07, 2007 08:52:04 AM
I'm looking forward to see it. SG interesting tonight. I have to learn cognitive psychology ewwwww :( >:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: wetpixie on February 09, 2007 08:12:08 PM
i have had dreads for 4 months and my hair has shunk to half the size it was, when i first got them, also they are really lumpy, and lots of hairs are loose, when i first got my dreadperm they told me that my dreads were formed like i wanted them.....thin and straight, but now all i have are lumpy, short dreads.....plus my hair has alot of build up on it.
is there any advice for someone who is thinking of cutting them all off......i am feeling discouraged ...help any advice would be great!!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on February 10, 2007 04:25:59 AM
hey wet, dont worry dreads are suppose to shrink and get bumpy, they will smooth out eventually, or u may have some bumps forever, I still have some. Loose hairs pretty much comes with the deal with dreads, but dont worry as they mature they will lock in. as for the build up you could always try washing them with a resedue free soap, i'm not sure what they have to put in your hair to get a dread perm, but i'm sure it's not good, wash wash wash with hot water and soap is all i can say, or try an acv= apple cider vinigar rince.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on February 11, 2007 03:02:03 AM
If you are not 100% sure if your soap is residue free try wash your hands witht it. If only leaves a soapy smelly after you have a good chance it does not have bad stuff in it. Also use ACV or lemone juice after hair wash it helps to wash the soap away. Rinse this stuff as well.
Also you could try the deep cleansing recipe of naked ninja. I plan to use it for the first time today.
"This works sooo good~ and most of you probably have all the stuff available right now so try it out !~ Get a BIG bowl of warm water, mix in about 3/4 c of baking soda, 8-9 drops of tea tree oil, 2 T of lemon juice, and 2T of salt stir until well dissolved. use a squirt bottle or something to apply to your scalp and soak all your dreads real well ~ wrap up in a towel and let them sit for like 1/2 an hour or so ~ then rinse( and rinse again ). Now I dunno if I just have really dirty dreadies or something but when I rinsed my hair the water was muddy brown ~ gross!~ It deep cleans the middle of the dread I guess. I do this like once a month now.(Aside from using regular shampoo) Let me know if you get the same results!"
I would not recommend to cut it as the perm damaged your hair so you would end up with really short hair.
Have you tried to crochet them? However it's not 100% invisible you  will end up with less loose hair and tighter locks.
Shrinking is inevitable. Like I had 40 cm long hair and my locks ended up about 20cms. Mine are also 4 moths old I had bad times as well but now as I see the progrress I love them more and more every day. I accepted the loose hairs nowdays I don't run neurotically for the crochet hook when I notice some.... Be patient and everything is gonna be allright. :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on February 11, 2007 11:21:49 PM
I have to agree. I'm having a hard time as well.

I've had mine about 3 months now, and the more they are shrinking the worse i feel.

I miss my long hair alot...Thats the biggest thing, although the 2nd is that the frizz makes me slightly self conscience.

I think i would miss my dready self if i take them out, so is there anything i should/could do to make them longer beside being patient?  (Thats cheap and easy maybe??) Cause I'm on the verge of a midnight pickthem out session.

BTW my myspace is www.myspace.com/piercedchicken if anyone wants pictures.


btw


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on February 11, 2007 11:25:43 PM
So where do all your lovely dreadheads work where you xan get away with it?  ???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on February 12, 2007 12:55:27 AM
I'm a full time psychology student yet, in my first master year, one year to go to have my diploma so I a bit worried though, but yet I plan to have them for years.

The deep cleansing worked well, I had muddy brown water coming out as well  ;D

PiercedChicken  I love your dreads. You can felt wool into your give more length or put in some longer woolen locks. Or you could use the Silva method to make your hair grow faster.  ;) K just joking.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel7383 on February 12, 2007 12:58:53 AM
I have to agree; her dreads look great! :)
Looking at all the pictures on here is really making me miss mine. I cut them off while I was applying for entrance into nursing school. Unfortunately, I could have kept them for another year- I was told the wrong admission date and couldn't get in. :(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on February 12, 2007 01:55:09 AM
So where do all your lovely dreadheads work where you xan get away with it?  ???

I work for a charity that provides treatment for people with drug and alcohol addictions. I can get away with it for two reasons: firstly if we all looked 'smart' for work, our clients would feel uncomfortable; and secondly my role is in marketing and publications so I guess I'm expected to look 'creative' :D. On the rare occaisions I have to put a suit on, I just tie my dreads back in a bunch.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on February 12, 2007 11:42:05 PM
I'm a full time psychology student yet, in my first master year, one year to go to have my diploma so I a bit worried though, but yet I plan to have them for years.

The deep cleansing worked well, I had muddy brown water coming out as well  ;D

PiercedChicken  I love your dreads. You can felt wool into your give more length or put in some longer woolen locks. Or you could use the Silva method to make your hair grow faster.  ;) K just joking.

I think I'll have to try the deep cleaning. I also read about the sea salt and water. Maybe that will get rid of the frizz.

Thanks for the encouragement guys. :) I really don't want to lose them.

I think I'm going to try either fake hair or the wool to had some length. Are there any tutorials out there beside quinster? How exactually do you attach them? I never quite worked that out.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on February 13, 2007 07:08:04 AM
if you want to attach wool roving to your dreads (or loosely spun yarn that you've picked apart, in a pinch) you can just grab a tuft, wrap it round the dread, and roll it in your palms soft at first and then harder.  it will felt up pretty slowly over time but just a minute or two of rolling it on will make sure it sticks.  if you are laying pieces lengthwise doing some bits around the girth of it all will help them to stick, lengthwise doesn't stick in or automatically look good as well as making bands.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on February 14, 2007 10:15:49 AM
Ok ladies. after doing a few backcombed dreads in my girlfriends hair last night, I WANT MINE BACK!! Whoo-hooo! Thing is, I've never used product like wax or anything to help me get them doing. Does anyone here have a preference of one over the other?  ??? Right now I'm looking at knottyboy and dreadheadhq.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on February 14, 2007 10:38:46 AM
Personally, I love Knotty Boy's Dreadlocking gel. It's all natural, smells great (limes!) and really helps tighten 'em up!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on February 14, 2007 12:02:41 PM
IMHO, Knottyboy is better than Dreadhead HQ.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on February 15, 2007 04:18:49 AM
Smoker, I never really got along with wax, which means I have a barely-used pot of Knottyboy wax for light-coloured hair and some other dready bits if you're interested in a personal swap -- PM me if you are ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on February 15, 2007 04:07:22 PM
if you want to attach wool roving to your dreads (or loosely spun yarn that you've picked apart, in a pinch) you can just grab a tuft, wrap it round the dread, and roll it in your palms soft at first and then harder.  it will felt up pretty slowly over time but just a minute or two of rolling it on will make sure it sticks.  if you are laying pieces lengthwise doing some bits around the girth of it all will help them to stick, lengthwise doesn't stick in or automatically look good as well as making bands.

Hmmm. I think i'm gonig to try this. Are they a pain to get out?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on February 15, 2007 09:44:25 PM
Smoker, I never really got along with wax, which means I have a barely-used pot of Knottyboy wax for light-coloured hair and some other dready bits if you're interested in a personal swap -- PM me if you are ;)

Actually, (after I sent you a PM of course) I have super dark hair so the light wax might not go so well  >:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on February 16, 2007 06:34:44 PM
oh, yeah, you'll be stuck with them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on February 27, 2007 09:49:27 PM
I made some pretty fun dread beads! You can see them here!

https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=155335.0

 :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on February 28, 2007 01:01:17 PM
those are cute smoker! they remind me of mine :D
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=121489.0
https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=120612.0


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on March 04, 2007 12:55:32 PM
Nice beads guys. I wish I could wear more. But not until they get a bit longer. The beads are nasty when you want stand or roll on you head trust me  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on March 07, 2007 12:51:32 PM
When the dreadies are short, yer right, big ol beads are a pain to try to sleep on.  or when you are rockin out, they tend to fling around and knock ya in the face.  I cracked my nose a few times.  ::) Peyote stitches work well for early decorating since they smoosh flat when ya lay on em.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Safetyfox on March 08, 2007 02:01:43 AM
or when you are rockin out, they tend to fling around and knock ya in the face.  I cracked my nose a few times.  ::)

I chipped a tooth doing that ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on March 08, 2007 04:41:01 AM
My wedding is coming up soon, and i was weondering if u guys could help me out with hairstyles. My dreads are half way down my back. I'm thinking of an updo, but i might just leave it down if i cant figure something out.
:(


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on March 08, 2007 07:51:13 AM
Ok, I got me some wax and a backcomb! I'm knida nervous because my heart isn't into it the way it used to be. Dunno what happened?!  :P ???


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on March 08, 2007 09:29:58 AM
Ok, I got me some wax and a backcomb! I'm knida nervous because my heart isn't into it the way it used to be. Dunno what happened?!  :P ???

did you use wax last time? if so you should try it without this time and see the difference :D (it will be better without)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: francie pants on March 09, 2007 12:40:10 PM
irish chicky.... mine were to my lower back for our wedding.  I wish I had a clearer picture of them before we pinned my veil over it.  Essentialy the gal did a big chunky wild looking french braid kinda fold down the back of my head.  But to keep em in place, since they had so much weight, she had to use a million bobby pins and then sewed it solid with a tapestry needle.  Then we pulled the loose hairs framing my face and gave em nice lil curl. 


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Shelichan on March 12, 2007 04:19:42 PM
So do synthetic dreads count? Just installed these babies last night! 44 assorted thin dreads. I didnt make them~ someone else did.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/shelichan/NeonDreads01.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/shelichan/NeonDreads02.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/shelichan/NeonDreads03.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/shelichan/NeonDreads04.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/shelichan/NeonDreads05.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: sarahpanda on March 13, 2007 06:38:38 AM
Woo, SugarLolly, love the curly bits!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on April 20, 2007 10:57:25 AM
Ok! Put my first one in last night just to see how it goes...I put a little wax in it and backcombed like mad...it looked really crappy compared to last time put my heart was soaring when I woke up this morning and it has ALREADY matted! Whoo hoo!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on April 21, 2007 02:48:39 PM
Congrats. can't wait to see pics...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 21, 2007 07:39:00 PM
viri, do you have any recent pics? I loooove to see pictures of dreads! :) Anybody?? lol


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on April 21, 2007 09:15:39 PM
I love pictures too! I'll show some really old ones cuz my new ones are still newborns so they'll really not that interesting ...

My cousin was pretty drunk!

http://boo-boo.smugmug.com/photos/33146345-M.jpg
http://boo-boo.smugmug.com/photos/60981885-M.jpg






Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on April 22, 2007 09:00:07 AM
Here's some of me recently, my dreads are 19 months old!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/irish_chicky/dreadsap15003.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/irish_chicky/dreadsap15001.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/irish_chicky/pho005.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/irish_chicky/dreadsap15002.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 22, 2007 11:47:42 AM
Yay pics!!! Beautiful dreads!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on April 23, 2007 06:21:25 PM
all these beautiful dreads are making me jealous!!

I tried putting mine back in a couple of months ago, but my hair's too short...instead of dreads, I got dread-balls all over my head :( Now my bf's a dread-head too, and I have this boring straight hair... *pout*


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on April 24, 2007 11:34:34 AM
Nice dreads gals (at least as much I can see). Mine are almost 7 month old now. I miss the length. Must take some picks and complete my timeline...

This is my most recent pic from January



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on April 24, 2007 11:53:18 AM
viri - so pretty!!! they look great!  :o


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on April 24, 2007 01:12:20 PM
viri they look wonderful!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on April 25, 2007 10:41:31 AM
Thank you gals.  ;) I love them so much....


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on April 30, 2007 03:18:34 PM
So today I made a lousy timeline.







Today's pic  ;):



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on April 30, 2007 03:27:57 PM
before:

 after:



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on April 30, 2007 05:57:54 PM
Awesome pics you guys!  ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: emkay on April 30, 2007 07:00:47 PM
Sheli, do those curly ones stay curly?
My hair is so straight, even though my dreads are almost to my waist they are very stiff and tend to stick out, like if I lean against the wall for instance, instead of flowing nicely down my shoulders.  Not that I'm complaining, wouldn't trade 'em for the world!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on April 30, 2007 07:32:41 PM
I think I'll add a few more to my head tonight! My other babies are looking awesome!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on May 01, 2007 12:31:58 AM
i freakin love your hair milkweed... your looked great in dreads but that cut is badass.... can we get another shot... of the side/back maybe..


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on May 01, 2007 05:57:34 AM
You guys look great!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 02, 2007 08:17:51 PM
thanks spirals420 :D heres some side peechas, sorry i look like crap in them, i had just woke up and i kinda have bed head.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/viva_la_kelsey/P1020414.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g107/viva_la_kelsey/P1020415.jpg


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on May 03, 2007 10:37:24 AM
oh its wonderful! i loved your dreadies... but this cut is fantastic.. i like the asymetricalness... very fun..



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 03, 2007 04:12:47 PM
oh its wonderful! i loved your dreadies... but this cut is fantastic.. i like the asymetricalness... very fun..



;D thanks!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: PiercedChicken on May 10, 2007 08:11:06 AM
So today I made a lousy timeline.

Today's pic  ;):



Quite inspiring. I see my dreads going through the same process. Yours look lovely now BTW.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on May 13, 2007 05:43:30 PM
So where do all your lovely dreadheads work where you xan get away with it?  ???

I'm a woman in her mid-forties who is the sales/marketing part of a home web development business.

Hubby is a hippie-type, so not any more presentable than I am.

Honestly, given this area is so totally conservative (rural central PA), I was pretty nervous the first few times I went on sales call with my dreads.  But I'm used to it now. 

It helps that they're older too - I did mine in November, so by now, though there's plenty of lumps and stray hairs, it overall looks neater than it did to begin with.

It helps that the stereotype of web developers is that we're weirdo creative-types.  ;)

My age also helps.  People criticize you when you're 20 and do something weird, but at my age, they don't have the nerve.  I'm way too old for people to go parental on me.  ;)

I've only had a few people mention them at all - and they have all been positive.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on May 13, 2007 05:46:25 PM
Thing is, I've never used product like wax or anything to help me get them doing. Does anyone here have a preference of one over the other?  ??? Right now I'm looking at knottyboy and dreadheadhq.

I don't put anything in mine.  I wash the scalp with a loofa and soap and rinse that through to clean the dreads.  The first few months, I sprayed lots of salt water on them to help them knot up quicker.  But nothing since then.

I was thinking when they're FULLY knotted, I may start conditioning them with the stuff from inside of my aloe plant.  But... it may not be necessary given how it's going so far.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on May 13, 2007 05:53:16 PM
Here's some of me recently, my dreads are 19 months old!

Gorgeous!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: emkay on May 13, 2007 07:16:32 PM
I'm wondering if people agree that salt water helps tighten their dreads.  I haven't tried it because I don't want the white residue on my head.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 13, 2007 08:07:10 PM
I'm wondering if people agree that salt water helps tighten their dreads.  I haven't tried it because I don't want the white residue on my head.

it definitely helps, after i swam at the beach for a week when i had my dreads they were  way way tighter...


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on May 14, 2007 05:06:28 AM
I used to do salt-soaks every other weeks on my dreads to help tighten them up - it did wonders!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on May 14, 2007 05:13:24 AM
I'm wondering if people agree that salt water helps tighten their dreads.  I haven't tried it because I don't want the white residue on my head.

I didn't notice residue on my hair; but it sure showed up on my clothes.  So I started applying the stuff after the shower, when I was nude anyways.

My husband said I tasted salty all the time.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jpatti on May 14, 2007 05:16:13 AM
BTW, I just used a spray bottle.  I boiled some water, dissolved as much salt in it as would go, let it cool, put it in a spray bottle, and sprayed the heck out of my dreads to wet them down well.

It really does help tighten them up and it's very frugal for a "hair care product."


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: stitchFIGHT on May 14, 2007 05:53:21 AM
I'm going to try it, even though my dreads have tightened up quite a bit already. I'll spray on a mix of salt water with tea tree oil (which I already use quite a lot).

They're going to be a year old in a couple of weeks! Woohoo!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: lammvandal on May 17, 2007 07:00:49 PM
A question - About how long does it take to go through the initial dreading process?
I should be getting my friend and sister to dread my hair next weekend, but I fear it will take all weekend! I bought a kit from dreadhead hq, and on the website they said for an average 8 inch long dreadlock, it takes 10-15 inches. My hair is almost 20 inches long.
About how long do you think is will take?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on May 17, 2007 08:12:41 PM
Hours. Quite literally. :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on May 18, 2007 01:20:57 AM
My hair was almost 24 inches before my dreads. My dreads (I think I had about 103 or something in the beginning) took 30 hours spread over several days (almost a week I think). So I would say, quite some time ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 18, 2007 08:57:31 AM
A question - About how long does it take to go through the initial dreading process?
I should be getting my friend and sister to dread my hair next weekend, but I fear it will take all weekend! I bought a kit from dreadhead hq, and on the website they said for an average 8 inch long dreadlock, it takes 10-15 inches. My hair is almost 20 inches long.
About how long do you think is will take?


i got that kit when i started my dreads too, but it really was a waste of your money... the only thing necessary is the brushes and shampoo.
when my dreads where done it took 8 hours with 2 people working on it....my hair was like half way down my back i guess


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: jezebel_1982 on May 18, 2007 10:32:07 AM
My hair was only about 10 inches or so long when I installed my dreads, and it took a few weeks. I didn'd have anyone helping me, and I did it whenever my hands weren't already occupied. There were about 90-100 dreads on my whole head when I was done.

It's time consuming to put them in, but well worth the wait, I promise! :D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: lammvandal on May 18, 2007 01:08:37 PM
Wowza. Didn't quite realize it would take that long!
I've got my friend all weekend and my sister for at least one day, so hopefully it'll all get done. And even if my mom isn't too happy about it, I'm sure she'll help.  ;)
Thank you!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on May 20, 2007 09:57:56 AM
PLz post pics when you are done.  ;)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: emkay on May 21, 2007 07:27:05 AM
I did mine mostly by myself, with a friend helping in the back.  My hair was down to my waist and STRAIGHT.  It took an entire long weekend.  Your friend is going to have serious elbow, wrist, and finger pain for the next week or so!  And your head is going to be sore for a few days, too.  IT'S WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 25, 2007 11:30:18 AM
Here is my dreadhawk, a year and a half old:



Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 25, 2007 08:18:35 PM
that looks really cool rachelyra =D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: glittersniffer on May 25, 2007 09:00:34 PM
Yeah, I'd love to see more pics if you have them! ;D


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 30, 2007 12:12:01 PM
I've always used Dreadhead Hq products, but i was wondering if anyone here has used knotty boy products, and if they work or not. I was thinking of switching to them because they seem to be more environmentally friendly, but do they actually work?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: mayerlove on May 30, 2007 01:34:58 PM
I loved Knottyboy wax, but I had never tried Dreadhead HQ, so I can't compare them.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on May 30, 2007 06:16:16 PM
I dont use anythin,g except resedue free shampoo. it's the best enviromentally friendly way to go, but other then that I cant help on product, I just let my haor do it's thing like nature intended


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 30, 2007 06:20:16 PM
right, all i use is dreadhead shampoo...but i was wondering if knotty boys was better


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on May 30, 2007 06:21:46 PM
ah kool kool, I'm not sure, I use locally made stuff myself!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: emkay on May 30, 2007 06:23:34 PM
I've tried both brands and prefer Dreadhead HQ, but it would be most environmentally friendly to use a soap or shampoo made locally, if you can find one.  I can't ;)  I use different shampoos all the time and Dr. Bronner's.  None of them seem to affect my dreads as far as being knotty, but I do find that some brands seem to sort of repel water better than others so i dry more quickly.  Also, some of them make my hair sort of droopy.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on May 30, 2007 06:26:44 PM
droopy eh? do u think there may be some type of conditioning agent in them too? Yeah I get mine at the local, not really a health food store, no food is there, but health store I guess. Anyways, I like to soak my dreads in epson salt water every now and again while I takea bath, cleans then and helps them bind together!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on May 30, 2007 07:14:11 PM
i took some pictures of my head.  kind of.  here is one:

and here are the rest:
http://flickr.com/photos/rachelyra/sets/72157600289856744/ (http://flickr.com/photos/rachelyra/sets/72157600289856744/)

My dreads are a year and a half old and i try to scrub a bar of soap across my head about once a week, but that's pretty much it.  i think i have it way easy compared to all you folks, with a whole head of these monsters.  my 14 are enough.  I like tying them on top of my head though.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 30, 2007 09:07:22 PM
I've always used Dreadhead Hq products, but i was wondering if anyone here has used knotty boy products, and if they work or not. I was thinking of switching to them because they seem to be more environmentally friendly, but do they actually work?

i much perfer knottyboy... (i still use the shampoo even after i cut my dreadies.)dreadheadhq is gross =P but what do you mean "do they work"...?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 30, 2007 09:40:29 PM
I just mean..does it get your hair clean, tighten your dreads, not leave residues, etc.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 30, 2007 09:50:30 PM
also, the cooling sprays that they have, the tightening gels, and the teas, do these actually help?


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 30, 2007 10:37:20 PM
nevermind..i guess i'll just order some of their stuff tomorrow and see for myself :)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on May 31, 2007 08:15:46 AM
i felt that knotty boy made my hair cleaner than dreadhead (plus it smells much better)
and i never used the tightening gels but from people i know who used them they said they didn't make much difference. salt water would be better.
and I'm not sure how long you have had dreads so i don't know if you already use it, but if you use wax i would strongly encourage you to stop using it, its really a waste of your money and it gets nasty inside your dreads, i used it when i first got my dreads for like a month or two and when i cut my dreads it was still inside (i had my dreads for almost 2 years when i cut)...and it really doesn't help your dreads...wax keeps your dreads from moving... and to make knots you need movement


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: peaceloveandlisa on May 31, 2007 09:44:41 AM
thanks for the help..i've had my dreads since october and never really used much wax either..i was always too lazy to put it in cause it's a pain in the ass, but now that i know that i probably won't use it again. about the salt water, i live about 2 blocks from the gulf of mexico, so i'm pretty sure i've got that covered for the summer atleast :P  thanks again


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on June 02, 2007 07:27:30 AM
came back from a music festival... 3 nights/4 days
stayed in a chalet with shower and bed
still managed some natural dread babies lol

i really want dreads but theyre such a massive commitment and i change my hair like once a month :S


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: milkweed* on June 02, 2007 10:19:09 AM
came back from a music festival... 3 nights/4 days
stayed in a chalet with shower and bed
still managed some natural dread babies lol

i really want dreads but theyre such a massive commitment and i change my hair like once a month :S

you can always comb them out if you hate them :P


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: white trash hero on June 02, 2007 01:57:55 PM
i dunno my hairs already bleached to crap, and i just cut it off. i had bear long hair all healthy and ruined it.... i was really considering dreads then, im not sure what happened...maybe i should try blonde synths


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 03, 2007 09:35:08 AM
Maybe then you don't have much to loose. If you hate it you cut it.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: viri on June 04, 2007 01:37:22 PM
I'm sure you could fing a girlie cut.but i get it. I thing I will partly comb out mine when it will come to choping. but my hair is thick and never seen any dyeing / bleaching agent so pretty healthy. At the moment I plan to have them for years.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: Vildhavre on June 04, 2007 02:04:01 PM
Rachelyra - I really like your dreads!

Today I cut mine. Or, a few of them. I went from approx. 100 to 48 dreads. I've always had long hair, I've always hated my long hair, but never dared to get a short haircut. Today my boyfriend shaved half of my head ;D

I went from this (after 1½ year with dreads):


To this:


And I love it! Not so heavy, dries faster, doesn't get stuck in my ears so much, doesn't hang in my eyes as much.. Next step is to shave all of them ;) But I guess that'll have to wait until next year.
The plan is to let the hair on the sides grow out a bit, kind of like Rachelyra's. But somehow I like my head bald too (never thought I would say that!).

A couple more pictures if anyone is interested http://picasaweb.google.com/vildhavre/KikisSaker (http://picasaweb.google.com/vildhavre/KikisSaker)


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: irish_chicky on June 04, 2007 02:49:16 PM
awesome a dread hawk! sweat deal!


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: rachelyra on June 04, 2007 02:53:02 PM
one of the best parts of shaving your head as close as you have is that every day, as it grows, it will feel slightly different to the touch.


Title: Re: Dreadlocks
Post by: spirals420 on June 04, 2007 03:37:51 PM
one of the best parts of shaving your head as close as you have is that every day, as it grows, it will feel slightly different to the touch.

i LOVE this about shaving my head.. i love to touch it.. constantly touchi