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Title: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 06, 2010 11:29:20 AM
Okay, I know that sounds like a strange request, but you know those colorful dots color blind tests? If you have normal vision you should be able to read all of the numbers. If you are colorblind (depending on which colors) you may only be able to see some of the numbers.


I thought those looked really neat and tried to recreate one. These are post earrings (figured I'd tell you since you can't see the back...) The colors are a little darker than I had planned, but oh well. Now I just want to know if they work! So, for all the colorblind craftsters, can you see the numbers??




Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Chelsea K on June 06, 2010 12:25:07 PM
These are awesome I'm excited to see if there are color blind people to test these out.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: sweetpetunia on June 06, 2010 12:48:18 PM
I asked my boyfriend, and he said: On the earrings YES! on the piece of paper NO.

He said the colors we not vibrant on the piece of paper, and therefore looked the same.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 06, 2010 01:04:54 PM
Well darn.

Thanks so much for asking him! I guess I'll have to try harder for more subtle colors. On the plus side, they're so small in person that it's hard to see the numbers unless you get up close anyway...


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: SierraPapaCharlie on June 06, 2010 01:23:59 PM
I think they're neat, regardless of whether they actually work as a colorblindness test. Did you make them from a cane?


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: erdbeerblau on June 06, 2010 02:18:18 PM
what a fun idea.

if the original ones are viewed in black/white mode (photoshop or something) there's no number  - the light greens and light reds are the same shade of gray (and the dark shades of red/green ).
your middle red-shade seems to be darker than your middle green-shades, so maybe that's the reason? (i *think* if colourblinds can't see the different shades, then it's the shade of grey that counts)


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 06, 2010 02:42:05 PM
I think they're neat, regardless of whether they actually work as a colorblindness test. Did you make them from a cane?

Thanks! And yes, they're made from a cane. Many, many little red and green pieces all put together...

erdbeerblau, that might be it. It's hard to figure out how they look to someone else. I can't really imagine how things would look if I were colorblind. I did notice, however, that one side of the 5 has a lot of the same tones of red.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Chelsea K on June 06, 2010 03:26:40 PM
I think they would work if they didnt have the dark red ones


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: raeraethejetplane on June 06, 2010 03:44:41 PM
Most colorblind people I have met have issues with reds and purples. Something to keep in mind. Colorblindness is much more common in males than females so ask the mens in your life. You may already know some one. Each colorblind guy I knew, I knew them for a while before they ever mentioned they were colorblind. I love these earrings. They look nifty :)


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Blitherypoop on June 06, 2010 04:46:45 PM
erdbeerblau is right.  The reason they don't work is because they have to be the same saturation for both colors.  That's gonna be really tough to do.

Red/green colorblindness is the most common, and yes, it's more common in men.  Colorblindness is carried on the X chromosome.  Men only have one X, so if it's defective, they're colorblind.  Women have two, so if they have a defective and a healthy, the healthy one fixes it and they're not colorblind.  A colorblind man can be born to a woman who is colorblind or carries the gene, but a colorblind woman has to have a mother who's a carrier or colorblind AND a colorblind father.

... I have a 1/4 chance of being a carrier, which is why this intrests me.  My grandmother carried it, my uncle is colorblind, my mother has a 50/50 chance of being a carrier... but we don't know if she is because she never had a son.  If I ever have a son I'll wonder right away if he's colorblind. :P


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: LoveNTheOcean on June 06, 2010 05:07:10 PM
Wow. Those are pretty cool. I wish I was clay creative.
For some reason they look like ecstasy pills...not that I've seen one. *cough cough*
Lol.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: StudioLeigh on June 06, 2010 07:05:23 PM
my colorblind husband couldn't see it. 


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: maxxev on June 06, 2010 11:17:28 PM
awesome idea and well executed too!
i always find it hard to judge exactly how dark colours will turn out after a bake. could be worth mixing up a batch and baking each colour (labelled of course) before making the cane itself then you could adjust colours accordingly :)


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: lalalapoopoo on June 07, 2010 12:24:16 AM
Colorblindness is fascinating and your earrings are amazing! :]


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: nougatgee on June 07, 2010 01:34:11 AM
this is such a good idea!!

perhaps if you coated the earrings in some liquid clay the colours would be less vibrant and maybe work??


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 07, 2010 06:30:35 AM
Thanks to everyone!

my colorblind husband couldn't see it. 

Yay!!! Not for your husband of course, but I'm glad they worked on somebody!

this is such a good idea!!

perhaps if you coated the earrings in some liquid clay the colours would be less vibrant and maybe work??

Interesting idea. I might try that just to see how they would look, although liquid clay and I aren't getting along that well this week.

awesome idea and well executed too!
i always find it hard to judge exactly how dark colours will turn out after a bake. could be worth mixing up a batch and baking each colour (labelled of course) before making the cane itself then you could adjust colours accordingly :)

I was using a lot of scraps for this project so the colors weren't an exact science  :) That would work really well if there was someone who is color blind nearby that I could bug.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Belladune on June 07, 2010 07:18:38 AM
I'm going to facebook this for a colorblind friend.  I'll let you know if they work for him. 
the idea is wonderful though.  How on earth did you ever come up with it?!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: dulcet on June 07, 2010 09:56:35 AM
My son could read them.  He's red/green colorblind--mostly muted and pastel colors.  I can always tell when he's sorted the laundry.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: quirkyfaerie on June 07, 2010 10:19:25 AM
My boyfriend couldn't see them. Must be varying degrees of colorblindness. I noticed the color saturation difference too. It seems like those tests are more faint and pastel, but it looks like they work to some degree.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Belladune on June 07, 2010 11:04:11 AM
This is what my friend said about  her husband

" yes he can see the 45s in the earrings. can only only see numbers the top and middle ones on the lefton the actual colour blind test chart :) she probably made it too dark therefore too much contrast!"

So that's his story, but it sounds like it works for some people, so I guess you'd just need to make a few diffferent shades and go from there!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Diane B. on June 07, 2010 11:07:05 AM
Cool idea!

If you want to make the colors lighter and less saturated, you could add white before baking...or just add translucent to make them less saturated and eventually "lighter."  Can take them all the way up to "tints" if you want, which would look more like the test patterns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blind#Total_color_blindness

Diane B.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: JustDontChange on June 07, 2010 03:25:41 PM
neither my boyfriend nor my uncle can see it on the paper.
we all think the earrings are cool tho!!
 ;D


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: dulcet on June 07, 2010 04:10:01 PM
Did you know that in those tests they use at the eye-doctor's office, sometimes the color-blind person will see a different number than a regular person, and that helps the doctor know what variety of color-blindness the person has?  Like a 2 instead of a 7, or an 8 for a 3.  I also like the tests they have for younger kids that have pictures (dog, boat, house) instead of numbers.

I do like those for earrings, even if they don't "work" 100%.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: rented_angel on June 07, 2010 04:28:02 PM
Neither my neighbor or my little brother could see them on the paper or the earrings.  It's weird how some colorblind people can see them and some can't. 


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: TheWomanMonster on June 07, 2010 05:38:50 PM
Those are awesome, even if it doesn't 'work'.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 07, 2010 06:03:44 PM
They seem to be working about 50% of the time! I'm pretty happy with that. I will definitely try to lighten and muten (I'm not sure if that can be made into a verb or not  ???) the colors if I make another one.

Did you know that in those tests they use at the eye-doctor's office, sometimes the color-blind person will see a different number than a regular person, and that helps the doctor know what variety of color-blindness the person has?  Like a 2 instead of a 7, or an 8 for a 3.  I also like the tests they have for younger kids that have pictures (dog, boat, house) instead of numbers.

I do like those for earrings, even if they don't "work" 100%.

I knew about the genetics people have been talking about, but this I did not know. I wonder what they look like and what they would look like to someone who is color blind...I guess I never really paid that much attention. I'm always just hoping I don't need stronger lenses!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Fishydrew3 on June 07, 2010 07:47:46 PM
Hubby couldn't see it at all.  He can't see shade differences like red & green are the same & blue & green are the same, but blue is not red for some reason.   


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: craftydebs on June 07, 2010 08:42:16 PM
Very cool idea!  Well done!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: babychel on June 07, 2010 09:48:03 PM
I'm not colorblind, but I was associated with someone for a long time who was deficient in blues and greens.  

It's quite fascinating to me actually and I wondered what it may be like to see through the eyes of a colorblind person, so....

http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

Check it out - put craftster.org there!  

Your earrings are spectacular by the way!  ;D



Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Belladune on June 07, 2010 10:50:32 PM
I'm not colorblind, but I was associated with someone for a long time who was deficient in blues and greens.  

It's quite fascinating to me actually and I wondered what it may be like to see through the eyes of a colorblind person, so....

http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

Check it out - put craftster.org there!  

Your earrings are spectacular by the way!  ;D



oooh that color filter is sweet!  very neat!!  I'm so sharing that with everyone I know!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Lilibet on June 08, 2010 11:20:52 AM
I'm going to ask daddy! He is a daltonist too... If you use the same word in English... Not sure :p
It always frustrates him, when we show him those number pages.

It's fascinating for me as wel... Father has got 5 brothers, and they all got the same colourblindness. There is a sister too, and she possibly is a carrier. She has got two boys, so I'm curious when they will be tested. *loves genetics*


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 08, 2010 07:25:22 PM
I'm not colorblind, but I was associated with someone for a long time who was deficient in blues and greens.  

It's quite fascinating to me actually and I wondered what it may be like to see through the eyes of a colorblind person, so....

http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

Check it out - put craftster.org there!  

Your earrings are spectacular by the way!  ;D

That is awesome! I tried a picture of a rainbow. Very weird.

It does look like that one shade of red in the earrings is really off. I'm glad there are others who share my fascination of sight!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Lilibet on June 09, 2010 10:01:56 AM
We did the test... And we used it to test my two cousins, sons of the one siter I mentioned in my post above. We suspected it, and now we are sure. Both my dad and my two cousins are colourblind. My dad quite bad, because he couldn't see the earrings either :p
As I already thought, it frustrated him to no end. My eldest cousin was frustrated too in the end, because we kept asking things he could not see. Awww. He's only 7. Brik is 5, and he has it too.

Interesting!


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: losingstreak on June 09, 2010 08:31:14 PM
Just asked my dad and he said "there are supposed to be numbers on those?" He's constantly getting red and green confused, so not much of a surprise there.

I love this project! Its very clever and well executed. Good job :)


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: Heresy on June 10, 2010 09:14:57 PM
My husband could not read the earrings at all. He said there was some orange blotches "maybe", and was surprised when I saw what number was on them. He's pretty darned color blind, though.


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: cyndy225 on June 13, 2010 08:31:21 AM
Thanks to all of the husbands, dads, sons, nephews, friends, etc. who willingly (or otherwise) gave their input and to all the craftsters who asked them! It seems like the earrings are more than 50% effective. Yay! ;D


Title: Re: Need input from the colorblind
Post by: leenalivingdead on July 01, 2010 05:51:52 PM
If I were you, to refine your design I would wrap each little red/green bit of the cane in white, so you have the white spaces in between the color dots.  The color difference between the numbers and the background is not as vibrant when there is the white space in between.