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Title: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 08, 2010 12:10:41 PM
It's January, it's cold, muddy, and rainy outside, and I am going stir crazy.  It's garden planning time though, and I'll have to let that suffice.  What are you guys going to be growing this year?

Me, definitely: tomatoes, broccoli or broccoli raab, carrots, lettuce, calendula, pumpkin, climbing beans, snow peas, sunflowers, nasturtiums
probably: more herbs, more flowers
maybe: cucumbers

Is anyone else going to be starting from seed?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 08, 2010 12:34:01 PM
I don't grow tomatoes from seed, but just about everything else that goes in the ground around here is a seed.

I grow blue lake pole beans from fourth generation seeds that I have harvested myself.  Also, lima beans, lemon cucumbers, winter squash, lettuce, carrots, spinach, cayenne peppers and bell peppers.  Some of the seeds I have harvested from last year's crops,  some I get from Seed Savers and some I buy from the farner's market. 

I also buy native tomato plants from the Master Gardener's program here.

This year I am also planting sunflowers.  I tried growing peas and decided that it was a waste of time and resources.  Maybe I'll grow snow peas.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 08, 2010 12:53:58 PM
I grow the snow peas on a chain link fence between my neighbor's front yard and my own.  Only like 5 plants, but it gave me enough to throw into salads for an added crunch, and it helped to cover the fence a bit.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 08, 2010 01:05:41 PM
I don't have a fence, but I am working on a design for some tepees to put in my garden beds. 

Last year, I put a six foot step ladder in my garden bed for my green beans.  It was completed covered and nearly buried by the end of the season. :D  I'll probably use it again.  I loved the resulting crop.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on January 15, 2010 10:56:32 AM
I'm going to give it a try. I'm getting the materials for a vermicomposter together. I don't know what I'll grow, though, since my gardens always seem to die in August, despite my best intentions.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 15, 2010 11:04:51 AM
By August most people have forgotten that it's hot and plants need watering for longer periods of time.  Don't water during the day.  Turn on your soaker hoses at night and let them run overnight.  This does two things.  First, you are watering at a time when water is less likely to evaporate into the air.  Second, if you turn them on once a week, set a timer and turn them off nine or ten hours later, you have watered deeply and the plants actually get more from the water, because their roots grow deeper.  Healthy plants produce more.

I hope this helps you some.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 15, 2010 11:45:08 AM
I bought seeds the other day.  I just went to get peas, since it's time to plant them relatively soon.  I got Oregon Sugar Pod II (snow) and Cascadia (snap).  Both grow fairly well here.  While I was at the store, I decided I needed onions (flat of italy and talon) and cilantro (slow bolting).  I think it's roughly time to start onion seeds indoors.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on January 15, 2010 09:21:42 PM
Pinokeeo, that's great advice, Thank you; I wish I'd thought of it!
I'm adding soaker hoses to the list...


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on January 23, 2010 09:23:23 AM
I have been dithering about renewing my community garden plots because I am hoping to move sometime in the next year, but since that probably won't happen until fall at earliest, I think I will sign up again. I also have some large tubs that I may convert to planters on my porch - I have an L-shaped porch with mostly east exposure (and a little south), but shaded by a tree, so I think I'd put cilantro and some asian greens in the tubs.

One of my plots has mostly perennials, including a leek bed that I really need to clean up, rhubarb, and some herbs. There is a little extra space, where I'm thinking of putting bunching onions and some hot thai peppers. The other plot is all annuals except for some strawberries and two artichokes that I am half-heartedly trying to overwinter (it is really too cold here for them). I have a tent made from pvc hoops and winter or summer-weight cloth covers where I grow tender things that want to live in asia, mostly brassicas. I'm going to try yardlong beans for the fourth time, in four years I have harvested one bean.  Squash will mostly be summer varieties this year, since I don't want to move winter squash with me across the country (I've still got a giant hubbard and some baby kabocha from last season in my living room). Also tomatoes (brandywine, cherry, an a green variety for frying) and tomatillos. Oh, and snow peas for the shoots rather than the pods.

I grow almost everything from seed, since I can't usually buy the things I want from starts here, and the brassicas in particular start so well from seed and are so expensive as starts. The tomatoes, peppers, tomatillos I start indoors in a spare bathtub with lamps. I plant lots of extras and give them away. The squash and cabbages are direct seeded under the tent or with water walls.  Nothing tender can go out until mid May and then only with water walls, so I don't start the seeds until late March.  Snow peas, mustards, radishes (I'm going to try daikon this year) can go out in March or April if covered, but our water supply sometimes doesn't get turned on until May.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 23, 2010 09:34:12 AM
I just went out yesterday to look at my winter garden.  My garlic is up six inches above the mulch, and my winter onions are up nearly four inches.  WooHoo!

I am going out today to build some more garden beds.  My goal is two more long beds and three short ones.  I may only have enough lumber for one long bed, but I have plenty of lumber for short beds.  One or all of those short beds is going to be for my strawberries.

And I have discovered that I am on overload with bean seeds.  If anybody is interested in fourth generation blue lake pole bean seeds, PM me and I'll send you a little packet.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Megzy818 on January 25, 2010 11:49:33 AM
I'm in, but does anyone have ideas for planting on a balcony? It is huge and I would love to have planters going from one end to the other, it gets great sunlight during the day which is a plus I'd like to get a couple bird feeders a bird house and humming bird feeder...I know I want to grow herbs because my husband and I cook a lot and they can get pretty expensive...Any vegetables recommended? Maybe an upside down tomato planter? Help! I plan on starting to get things together for it next week but obviously not planting until its time.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 25, 2010 01:12:53 PM
Thought I'd show off a couple of pics of my little garden.

My garlic and onions are poking up through the mulch in the garden beds.

Here's garlic.



And here's my yellow onions.



Enjoy!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: SunflowerSmiles on January 25, 2010 02:05:58 PM
ohhhhh! spring is coming! I need to get to work ;D


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 25, 2010 09:55:35 PM
oooh nice, pinokeeo.  you know, i wouldn't have expected it, but my chickens seem to be pecking at our garlic leaves.  I'm not very excited about that.  I might have to build 'em a new run sooner rather than later.

On the plus side, it looks like my Talon onion seed is beginning to germinate!
I've got lavender and amaranth that I'm attempting to start too.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 26, 2010 06:37:28 AM
You should maybe build them a portable hen house.  Here's one from Amazon, but you can build them much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/Chicken-Coop-Portable-Hen-House/dp/B002JXW29S

Here's a link for free plans.
http://www.organicgardening.com/pdf/coop_plans.pdf



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 26, 2010 09:53:43 AM
I have one, but it's way too big, I think.  I've been thinking about making a smaller one. 
The chickens would be fine with a smaller covered area, and I'd be able to maybe move it by myself.  And the one I have now is too big to fit on our garden beds.  I think it's about 5 feet wide and the beds are about 4 feet wide...


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on January 28, 2010 09:23:14 PM
Megzy, check out a book called 'The Bountiful Container'. It's amazing.
It's got instructions for pretty much any fruit, vegetable, and herb that you could want, and how to grow them in a pot, plus alot of information on plants that grow well together, look well together, etc.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Megzy818 on January 29, 2010 08:52:37 AM
Thank you Longelegantlegs!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on January 29, 2010 10:25:46 AM
Megzy, depending on how hot it is on your balcony, that might be a great place to grow peppers.  They don't appreciate the weather we have here, and I feel pretty lucky if i get a few tiny little bell peppers on an average plant.  Radishes and lettuce are pretty easy to grow in containers, although they are not big fans of heat.  I donno why I'm talking about heat in late January, but it's good to plan ahead for things your plants might face.  The great thing about containers though is you can move 'em to warmer and colder areas of the balcony based on what's growing in 'em.  There's a variety of peas you can grow in pots that dont' even need a trellis.  I can't remember the name of 'em.  Peas are nice 'cause they're an earlier crop.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on January 31, 2010 10:35:54 AM
I found this spiffy Instructable for a hanging wall planter, I think I might give it a try this year.

http://www.instructables.com/id/VERTICAL-VEGETABLES-quotGrow-upquot-in-a-smal/?ALLSTEPS


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on January 31, 2010 10:43:36 AM
Ok, this is hilarious.  A garden in a shoe bag.  I might actually try this, except that I think I will make a sandwich board frame to hang the shoe bag on.  It would make a great herb garden.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on February 02, 2010 07:22:35 AM
I started some Purple basil and Lettuce Leaf basil seeds inside today, and I noticed the pot that held my elephant ears last year is starting to get green shoots! Spring is coming! ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on February 02, 2010 08:27:51 AM
I saw the green shoots from my daffodils yesterday.  Spring is definitely on it's way.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on February 21, 2010 12:12:55 PM
Basil's coming up, and the kids and I spent the day making paper pots and starting pansies and columbine for the front garden, and peppers, dill and chives for the back. I'm hoping to get some lettuce started too, but it might be too warm already.
It's sooooooo hard waiting for the seeds to sprout!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on February 21, 2010 02:13:26 PM
Strawberries are starting to grow again in the old bathtub.

Onions and garlic are up about eight inches.  The garlic stem is already half an inch thick.

I did some germination tests on my seeds recently.  Fourth generation green bean seeds-100%, cherokee red beans-90%, lima beans-60%.  I'm still working on pepper seeds.

Has anyone ever grown ground cherries?  I got a packet of seeds that I am going to try for the first time.  I'm pretty excited about these.

I've been filling my new garden beds with e50/50.  By the time I get them filled, I'll have just enough time to clean and top off the old beds and get ready for planting.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on February 22, 2010 09:39:45 PM
what's e50/50?

I started amaranth a couple weeks ago, and those are doing well.  it's kind of an experiment, because I grew Love Lies Bleeding and Hopi Red Dye and I'm not sure how they'll cross.  I read somewhere that they'll cross with random weedy amaranth, so we'll see what happens.

Looks like the snow peas/snap peas are starting to push up.  I jumped the gun and planted some early.  I should probably plant some more.

Started some more onions, and some tomato seeds I didn't realize I still had (caro rich, three years old, we'll see how well they germinate).  Lavender seems to have craptastic germination, but I have three sprouts which will be plenty if they all make it.  The hyssop I started has great germination rates, which I wasn't expecting because the seed's a little old.

Today, I built a chicken wire fence to, well, to keep the chickens fenced in.  I have a little run on the back of their A frame coop that's technically big enough for them, but I hate leaving them locked in there all day, so they've been free ranging on the backyard for the last 9 months.  Now they have their portion of the yard, and I can start planting stuff in the beds and not have it eaten in three seconds flat.  Greedy chickens!

I've never grown ground cherries.  Now that the chickies are on lockdown, I'll be able to use more of my yard for nifty plants, so I might try 'em.  This year though I think I have plenty of other things to grow ...

Anyone grown walking onions?  I've been thinking about trying those. 


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on February 22, 2010 09:51:56 PM
E50/50 is organic soil, which is 50% compost and 50% topsoil, with no added chemicals.  It is almost black in color and has a very earthy smell to it when it's still hot.

The seed packet for the ground cherries says that they have a citrus aftertaste to them.  When they grow, they kind of look like japanese lanterns.

So what are walking onions?  I've never heard of them.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on February 25, 2010 12:17:17 AM
"walking" onions: http://www.territorialseed.com/product/1327/259 (http://www.territorialseed.com/product/1327/259)
aka egyptian onions.
apparently, they form bulblets up top, which then grow heavy enough to pull them to the ground, and the process repeats.  so it's as if the plant was walking.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on February 25, 2010 07:28:26 AM
The "walking" onions are very intruguing.  Thanks for the link.  I ordered a catalog.  I love looking at seed and plant catalogs, especially when the seeds are from long ago plantings.

Longelegantlegs, where are you that it is already too warm for lettuce?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: Longelegantlegs on February 26, 2010 03:11:48 PM
South Texas.  ;D
Although we had a cold snap a couple days ago, it's been pretty warm this month.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on March 06, 2010 11:58:40 AM
We have at least two more months of snow here, plus they don't turn the water on at the garden usually until early or mid April.  I'm starting hot peppers and tomatoes in my spare bathtub, plus wintersowing some kale, mustard, and bunching onions for transplanting once our water is on.  Hauling water for seedlings is a major PITA, especially in this extremely arid climate. 

Our median last frost day is in early May, but the distribution has a long tail with frost possible into June. Since my community garden is in an extra-cold microclimate, I won't put anything vaguely tender in until the second half of May, and then only with water walls.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on March 10, 2010 12:08:35 AM
two months more of snow... i do not envy you.

it was gorgeous here a few days ago.  then it hailed tiny little snowballs.  it was weird.  a few of the chickens were pretty excited about it and pecked a bunch of them up.

i'm going to be out of town for just shy of a month, turning over the garden to my brother who is house sitting.  we'll see how it goes.  last time he garden/plant sat, he said he heard me say "water these once a week" rather than "once a day" ... potted tomatoes in july heat got a bit cranky  :P  i kept it easy, plus there's not a whole lot going on.  it's not going to be a big early seed starting year for me, just to keep things simple.

but peas are up, maybe 1/2 an inch.  we'll see how they tolerate this weird weather.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: sunnydays914 on March 31, 2010 11:19:50 AM
I've got a little less than 2 more months of possible snow and heavy frost but hope to plant before the end of May. This week has been in the mid to upper 60s so I have to remind myself that I need to wait a little bit longer. I could try to start from seed inside but I have a feeling my cats would attack the seedlings and I don't have any windows with good light.

I've been starting at my lawn for the last week, wanting to start doing things soooooo badly. We bought our house last summer and had a limited garden. We had a few container tomatoes that we moved from our apartment to our house and beans that I honestly had very little to do with. My grandpa planted them from seed the day we moved in (July 3) and they were taking over the world a month later. I just made sure they got watered and weeded when I remembered.

My plans for this year are much more labor intensive but I'm really, really excited to see growing things again! I have a picture of my plan for this summer but it's on my home computer and I'm at work. I'll post it later. So far I'm planning on tomatoes, green beans, pumpkin, zucchini, bell peppers and chives.

Last fall we ripped out all the plants along the south side of the house so we can use it for a veggie garden this summer. Someone had planted 3 Rose of Sharon trees in the 2 1/2 foot deep bed along the side of the house. If you aren't familiar with them, Rose of Sharon can grow up to 10 feet tall and spread 4-6 feet. Sooner or later, they were going to start poking holes in my garage! They had to go. So did all the nasty ground cover ivy.

We're starting from scratch this year so hopefully everything will turn out ok. I need to fill the bed on the side of the house with soil since the roots from the trees left giant holes. I need to buy/make a compost box (anyone have recommendations?). I have to dig out the front flower beds because someone (I put a lot of blame on that someone, don't I?) decided it was a good idea to use stones instead of bark mulch and now the stones are impacted so deep I can't even weed without the stems/roots being cut off by a rock. Dumb rocks!

Needless to say, this weekend's 70 degree weather will get me out there and moving things around, even if I can't plant yet!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on March 31, 2010 12:43:20 PM
If anybody lives in the Yamhill County, Oregon area, there's an old fashioned Farm Festival going on soon.  They actually plow the field with mules.  It's fun to see.

Go here for details.  www.yamhillcountyhistory.org

They also have spaces for kids to plant stuff.  

My strawberries are planted in the beds.  I'm so looking forward to getting the rest of my garden down.  It's been raining for days here and I need to go play in the dirt.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: sunnydays914 on March 31, 2010 04:49:10 PM
Here's that garden plan!



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on March 31, 2010 05:25:05 PM
Is your map to scale?  It looks like you don't have a lot of room for your pumpkins.  Pumpkins will take over any space available to them, and your bell peppers won't have a chance.

As for compost, you can do almost anything.  It can be as simple as a big pile that gets turned often with a fork, to an elaborate drum type that you crank every two or three days.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: sunnydays914 on March 31, 2010 05:40:02 PM
The drawing is very much not to scale. Everything is a lot longer than the scrunched up picture shows.

I've been looking at instructions to make a compost bin out of a 32 gallon trash barrel. I think that is what the plan is. My husband is willing to drill holes in everything for me (any chance to use power tools!) and we have some extra slab concrete left over from some project the previous owners did to elevate it.

I know the dollar store near me has seed starting trays with lids which might solve my kitty issue.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on April 06, 2010 09:22:53 PM
One of my artichokes seems to have survived the winter (so far), so I have hope of actually getting artichokes. Usually the plant gets killed before it can flower in the first year.  Other than that, my peas aren't up, the rhubarb is sluggish, and the garlic is sprouting. I weeded 1/3 of my horrifyingly messy leek bed and need to do the rest before this years seeds sprout.

Wintersown items have all sprouted, except the daikon, which I planted late. Our water is still not on, but I hope it comes on soon so I can move these guys before the outgrow their small containers.



Waaaaay too early with the tomato starts. I swear they didn't grow this fast last year.  Need to do something about the lights, which are propped up on boards, but I am running out of boards.  I realize the lights should be hanging, but I don't have any way to manage that. May jury-rig something with tension shower curtain rods (I have two spares) wedged into place with....something.  I can't put these guys out for at least 5-6 weeks, and they already need to be repotted again.


The peppers are much better behaved.  I'd like to actually get some peppers this year, usually my plants get frozen, eaten by deer, or something else. This time, they will be pampered with walls of water as long as possible.



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on April 07, 2010 07:26:20 AM
Your starts look great.  Mine are still tiny.  Most of them have only two new leaves.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ashleymuffin on April 13, 2010 07:41:44 PM
i am actually a fan of building a big compost box out of recycled palattes from the alley! hehe
we go through a lot of compostable waste so the full palattes are pretty much a good size as the walls.
I use other scrap boards to fill the gaps but still leave small gaps for air circulation. then i just put thin layers of old leaves and layers of fresh scraps and turn them once in awhile with a pitchfork! voila!!!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: kaz814 on April 19, 2010 10:31:58 AM
I hope it's not too late to join in on the gardening action. :)  I live in a teeny tiny condo and have a teenier (tinier) porch where I container garden.  So far, I've started sugar snap peas (which are growing gangbusters and my improvised trellis from last year is obviously not doing the job, so I'll have to rig up a teepee for them), garlic, bush lake green beans, golden wax beans, thai eggplant (the seeds were free, so I thought why not!), basil, cilantro, soapwort, lettuce, Giant Italian parsley, and cherry tomatoes (Riesentraube).  Not all are doing as well as I'd hope (the tomatoes especially).  I also bought a sage plant this weekend and was gifted a Yellow Boy tomato plant at Easter, which is doing quite well for the craziness of the weather here.  My garlic seems to be doing really well, too, which I'm pleased about.  I planted it way too late last year.

I hope to put the herbs in their window boxes soon (maybe this coming weekend) and hopefully by then the cherry tomatoes starts will be looking less pathetic.  (If not, I'll get some plants from the garden shop.)


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on April 19, 2010 10:53:13 AM
FYI, there's a long window for planting garlic.  You can start as early as October 1, and plant as late as March 1, and still get garlic.  It's better in October or November, but as long as your soil isn't frozen, it's ok.  Just don't water it in July, and by the middle of August you can dig it up.

I've heard many people say that tomatoes in containers don't do well.  I wonder why that is.  Maybe the roots don't have enough room to spread out.

Your peppers will probably flourish.  I've grown peppers in pots before and they seem to be ok.  the same with your herbs.

I got my leeks down this weekend and also my greens.  I'm still cleaning out beds because I messed up and didn't dress them for winter, so I have lots of weeds in my garden beds.  I'm getting there though.

My garlic is up about 14 inches, as well as my yellow onions.  And I have baby strawberries, already.  They probably won't fully mature for another month or two, but they're there.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: kaz814 on April 19, 2010 11:08:30 AM
OOoh, thanks for the garlic tip, pinokeeo.  I planted mine in April last year (I started the garden late and figured why not try them).  Planted them in January this year, and they're up pretty high!

Yay for your strawberries.  I might plant some of those next year ...


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on April 19, 2010 12:24:24 PM
OOoh, thanks for the garlic tip, pinokeeo.  I planted mine in April last year (I started the garden late and figured why not try them).  Planted them in January this year, and they're up pretty high!

Yay for your strawberries.  I might plant some of those next year ...

If you want bigger heads of garlic, cut the scapes when they are as high as the leaves.  All the energy will go into the roots.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on April 19, 2010 01:57:46 PM
pinokeeo, thanks for all the tips.  I grew garlic last year and the heads were not as big as I was hoping.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on April 23, 2010 06:40:39 AM
alright, well i have all my stuff together for the most part, and i think i will be planting outdoors today. i am about a week early but i think its safe.

this is my first year trying to garden seriously, and i have big plans, lol. i wanted to do a raised bed and plant a lot more than i actually am, but financially i couldnt afford the lumber, top soil, or extra plants this time around. yesterday we tilled a nice square and im going to hope that i dont go insane picking weeds all summer :( we do have a few small bags of potting soil that i might mix in because that just seems like a good idea, i dont know.

i started some of the plants in pots already so they are good to go! i will post some pictures as soon as its all in the ground.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on April 23, 2010 07:30:13 AM
It's not a good idea to put planting mix in your garden.  They add nutrients and chemicals that are ok for pots, but not ok for a garden. 

If you want to amend your soil, I would suggest going to your local farm store and buying a bag of steer manure.

Just my opinion.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on April 24, 2010 06:30:59 AM
oh, really? :-\

i didnt know that, i already added it. it does mention its organic, if that makes a difference....hopefully that means there are no nasty chemicals. told you im a noob!  :D i appreciate your tips!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on May 03, 2010 12:14:46 AM
Snow peas are ankle to knee high, depending on which planting I'm looking at :D  spaced 'em out by a couple weeks, three plantings all together. 

Runner beans have mostly been eaten by slugs, and slugs and chickens in the backyard.  I don't mind because I have TONS of seeds, mostly from the runner beans I grew last year.

Planted some of the tomatoes outside.  I still have, after giving half a dozen away and planting half a dozen outside, 14 or so tomato starts inside, plus two I bought for variety.  Anyone in Portland want a Caro Rich tomato plant or two?  ::)

On potting soil VS manure: will it do any harm, pinpkeeo?  or just be kind of a waste of money?  It seems like potting soil is more expensive than manure/compost/worm castings.  I do know, dropoffradar, that potting soil is designed to drain well which is what you want in pots (which is why dirt, and even garden soil is a no-no).  I think that they're usually pretty devoid of nutrients, so not really a bonus to your garden.

Be careful with organics too, it doesn't mean necessarily that they're low impact on the environment.  They could have been shipped from half way across teh country, or further, or contain peat moss (depending on where it's from could deplete peat bogs which is a natural environment, but I've recently heard that these bogs put out methane or something not particularly good for the environment as a whole).  Anyway, read your labels and don't assume they're giving you the whole picture.



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on May 03, 2010 12:17:13 AM
kaz814, one of the tomato plants i bought was a yellow boy.  I've never tried 'em before.  You're growing yours in a pot, or in the ground?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: kaz814 on May 03, 2010 07:11:12 AM
kaz814, one of the tomato plants i bought was a yellow boy.  I've never tried 'em before.  You're growing yours in a pot, or in the ground?

Mine's in a pot.  I don't think it's quite big enough, but it's the biggest I have so it'll have to do.  It's growing quite well, though, so that's hopeful.

I got all my starts out in the planters yesterday morning.  I also bought two wooden fences for   my peas and beans to climb upon.  It works much better than what I had, so woo hoo!

Does anyone have any experience with thai white striped eggplant?  I got some free seeds and planted them, but I can't find much about it (and there wasn't much on the seed packet).


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 03, 2010 07:53:58 AM
The only thing I know about putting potting medium in the ground is this.  They put chemicals in the potting mix to help baby plants grow.  Putting it in your soil is like giving baby food to an adult.  The nutrients are different and not necessarily good for the soil.  If you are dumping only small amounts, it probably won't have much effect on the soil, but mixing a lot of it with ground soil isn't good for the ground or for your plants.

And Kaz,  I have tons of garden books and not one of them lists a Thai white striped eggplant.  If you're successful with it growing, I'd love to see a picture of it.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: kaz814 on May 03, 2010 09:13:21 AM
And Kaz,  I have tons of garden books and not one of them lists a Thai white striped eggplant.  If you're successful with it growing, I'd love to see a picture of it.

I'll take lots of pics - some of the seeds sprouted and are looking quite like little plants so far!  Maybe I'll take in-progress pictures, too, to get a record for other poor lost gardening souls!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 03, 2010 09:33:32 AM
In-progress pics would be great.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on May 03, 2010 11:25:25 AM
We keep having snow (three times last week) and it has been cold. My peas are still less than 6" tall although they have been out for weeks, and I lost some kale and radish to cold damage last week. :(  I am afraid that some of the stuff that survived the cold under row covers will bolt due to the cold temperatures. Staked out some black fabric, need to put out water walls to start warming the soil also.

At least the rhubarb is happy, and I have been culling (and eating) the leek bed even though many of the leeks (last year's) are quite small.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on May 05, 2010 07:13:25 AM

my tiny garden :) the front rows are all still popping up, i didnt start them inside. i have some onions, lettuce and beans. i have one beanstalk and about 4 little lettuceheads popping up! :D


the onions and my earthworm friend helping me out! i named him sam.


zucchini, broccoli, jalapenos and habaneros (i suck at planting in a straight line, lol) im really happy they have all survived transplanting and i didnt mess that part up at least.



herbs! im so proud of these. my large leaf basil is having a field day.

so thats how its going so far. we had a little frost scare but i capped everything and it turned out alright it seems. also, some of my plant markers have disappeared or have been ruined :( oh well, i guess thats just an excuse to make new ones, haha. thanks for looking!  :D

Edit: I forgot to take pictures of the tomato plant :( Next time!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 05, 2010 07:32:18 AM
Looks like you're off to a great start.  I'll get some pics up soon.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on May 08, 2010 11:09:18 PM
It was overcast today so I could actually take pictures. Still expecting a cold and possibly snowy week, so no planting this weekend.

the mostly perennial plot, herb side


garlic and friends


onion starts


leek bed, other side of the rhubarb. black cloth is out warming the ground for tomatoes


sole surviving artichoke, twinned at the base.


warming squash hills prior to direct seeding. how warm they will get when it will be lucky to reach 50F next week, I don't know.


strawberry patch, starting to bloom


(mostly) annual plot, showing tentside.


red mustards in the tent


snow pea shoots and red russian kale, in the tent



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on May 12, 2010 07:04:04 PM
so its been raining like crazy and the onions are loving it! ive been reading that they will be finished growing once their grass starts yellowing/drying, is that correct? i have never grown onions and im not entirely sure what to expect!

also, my herb garden. the other day was incredibly windy while i was at work and i had set my herbs outside beforehand so they wouldnt get too hot in the sunroom. well it really did a number on them (or maybe im paranoid) but now a few of my parsley are a little bit wilty/drying out. is it best just to cut back the dead grasses? im confused. i mean i figure they will just grow back but i dont want to mess it up, lol. also, is it common for basil/parsley to be so tempermental? i mean they really show their moods. one day they will look amazing and the next day they look like they hate me. ive been trying to make sure theyre are getting all the essentials, i dont get what im doing wrong.

thank you for hearing out my woes! lol


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 13, 2010 07:57:41 PM
Water them weekly and then leave them alone.  You can clip the dried stuff off, but don't cut them too much.  Pretend that you are cutting what you need for a meal.

Herbs don't need to be babied.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on May 19, 2010 12:34:10 PM
Man, finally got a chance to upload some recent pics.  They're from about a week ago, so the snowpeas are a little taller now.

Anyone know what these bulb flowers are called?


Close up of one of our rosemaries.  This one is "BBQ" ... I'm sure it's got another name, but it was bread to have longish branches that can be used for bbq skewers. 


Snow peas growing on the fence in the front yard, in between my neighbors house and my own.  Actually, all these photos are from the front, so far.


Blueberry plant.  We have two.  Top hat (I think) and Blue... Blue something or other, it's one does pretty well on it's own, but better with another blueberry bush.


Part of our lettuce/spinach/onion bed.  I have alternating, crooked rows.


Tilly on her soapbox.  She's a bit unhappy in this picture:


The newest addition to the H_pets household, the cause of Tilly's distress:


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 19, 2010 01:19:07 PM
Nice looking garden.  I like how you caught the bee on the rosemary, there.

I need to go out and get a few pictures.  My garlic and onions are out of control.  The strawberries are doing well, and the tomatoes are coming along.  We also have tiny lettuce.  Haven't seen anything else coming up yet.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: kaz814 on May 20, 2010 06:19:28 PM
I finally uploaded the pictures of my porch garden! :)

My tomatoes (yellow boy on the left, riesentraube next to it), a sickly looking lettuce, and some dying rosemary (seriously, I can't grow it.  Ever.)


Thai Striped White Eggplant, basil, basil, basil:


Soapwort (going to see if I can make my own shampoo when I harvest) and sage:


Garlic and beans (either Blue Lake Bush or golden wax - I forget what I put where ...)


More Thai striped white eggplant:


Sugar Snap Snow peas and the other beans:



There's also a hanging basket of parsley (with a volunteer basil that must have dropped last summer when the basil bolted) and a window box of basil and cilantro. 

I also have a pair of mourning doves nesting on my porch (they evicted the barn swallows who were here last year and who had already made a nest for this year).  I'm hoping that the barn swallows conveyed our understanding to the doves - I don't mess with them and they don't divebomb me. :D  So far, so good!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on May 21, 2010 07:43:38 AM
looks great :) i should have grown some peas this year, darn.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on May 30, 2010 05:55:50 PM
Ok, I finally got my garden in.

Here's the link.  I wanted to give it its own post.

https://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=349086.new#new


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on June 02, 2010 01:11:12 AM
pinokeeo, that looks great!  your garlic = awesome.
will you tell me how the cherokee purple does?  i've wanted to try that tomato but just haven't yet.
kaz, i've got a yellow boy tomato too.  I'm weaning it to be outside.  It's going to go into the ground eventually.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: pinokeeo on June 02, 2010 06:02:54 AM
I'll keep you posted on the cherokee purple.  I also have a pineapple tomato that I'm trying for the first time, so it should be an interesting year for tomatoes.

So far, the only tomato that I haven't really liked, other than romas, is a german pink.  They are far too delicate for me.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: montyfull on June 13, 2010 02:30:38 PM
Hi :)  I planted my first garden this year and though I would post pictures!  I'm a complete novice at gardening, but have been wanting a veggie garden forever. So far, so good...but we'll see when harvest time comes! The link below takes you to my blog post with tooooonnnss of photos and descriptions. Let me know what you think :)

http://istartfromscratch.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-garden.html (http://istartfromscratch.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-garden.html)





Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on June 13, 2010 05:05:08 PM
really pretty! i love that trellised plant above the outdoor seating, are those grapes also? its very neat looking!

here are my updated pictures of the garden! freshly weeded, they were a bit overgrown thanks to the copious amounts of rain/thunderstorms weve been getting! it was fun weeding for once since the ground was so nice and soft, easy-peasy and gave me a chance to get to know my plants better since theyve gotten enormous. (come on, like im the only person who talks to my plants....?  :D)


the whole thing, from the front....if you look at my older photos its kind of funny what difference a month makes!


onions, beans, romaine lettuce. im proud of these as i grew the from seed/bulb and they came up great. i need to trellis the beans though, working on that next....trying to think of a low-budget solution for that one, i honestly didnt even think they would grow so i didnt plan ahead >.< they are desperately grabbing onto everything including my onion grasses and eachother! :P haha


these are the peppers, habaneros and jalapenos. we have a baby jalapeno and a bunch of habenero buds, eep! in the back we have zucchini and broccoli which have gotten holy-crap-huge, i had no idea they would get as big as they are, otherwise i would have given them more room! i guess ill know for next time, for this year ill just try to train the zucchini to trail towards the fence, haha. as for the brocolli i have no idea what to expect! its a fun experiment.


i had to include this picture because i thought it was cute. and notice how hazy it is? while i do have a crappy camera that haze = humidity, no joke. its awful. but the plants love it.


this is a crappy picture of the herbs, sorry! they are doing fabulous. sweet basil has all but died off, not sure why...im not too upset over it though because i have regular basil also and sweet basil was a part of the deal they had going on at the nursery so i just took one also.


i cant wait to see more of your gardens also! sorry i went into far too much detail im just excited!  ;D


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: blushingbluegrass on June 13, 2010 06:30:03 PM
Can I play???

We started our garden this year after living in the house for two summers. We decided to start from seeds indoors... I think next year we will just wait until Derby season (last two weeks of April to the rest of the world  :D) and just start the seeds outdoors... Much easier and yields better results I think!

A shot of the whole garden


The cucumbers are kicking tookus and taking names!


The pepper plants (jalapenos, gigante jalapenos, and assorted others)


The green beans....


My tomatoes are crazy big!
We got four different types of heirloom (black prince, rose, german lunchbox, and.... I forgot the fourth type)


This is the biggest tomato, the size of my fist! It is a rose tomato


Broccolis!


And our squash plants... The one is so sad, it was a seed started indoors, the rocking one started outside and looks awesome!


We just started kale, onions and are starting our pumpkins this week.... I can't wait for the pumpkins so wish me luck that they take!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on June 13, 2010 11:03:46 PM
wow! go tomatoes go!  ;D


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on June 19, 2010 01:18:46 PM
I should have taken photos when I first got to the garden this morning and there were still some clouds. Also should have worn sunscreen.

Barely visible beans (edamame and yardlong var "stickless wonder"). Have not had bean success yet.


In the tent: red russian kale, snow pea shoots (dou miao), also some kohlrabi in the background


Something is eating things on the other side of the tent (young chinese cabbage, gai lan)


More in the tent: chinese celery


artichoke victory! the big one is on the counter waiting for my dinner.


The other plot; tomatoes (I am stringing them this year), brandywine and red cherry. Also some small hot peppers.


The out of control herb area. I've forgotten what everything is. There are some garlic, wormwood, catmint, horehound, and a few other things visible there. Not pictured are anise, tarragon, thyme, some more mint, rue, and half a dozen more things.


Strawberry patch. Got the first ripe berries today while weeding.


Land of the squash. Foreground, zucchini (left), baby hybrid kabocha (right). Distant background, blue hubbard (left), Indian tinda (right). Also some giant catnip and volunteer sunflowers.



Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: dropoffradar on June 19, 2010 01:43:08 PM
looks great! :D im also having some trouble with little buggers on my broccoli, im not sure how to shoo them without using anything harmful, im going to have to look into that.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: homeonline on June 24, 2010 09:09:10 PM
Gardening is my passion before I got job. Since I work in the urban area and rent some apartment. Itís difficult for me to plant seeds so I have now in balcony 2 potted tomatoes and a Bonsai. If I still have area to place for a flower pot. I would continue my flower potted plant.


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Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: blushingbluegrass on June 25, 2010 05:59:34 AM
Wow in the last week, my cucumbers have taken off like crazy! They have so many cucumbers now. And we have a TON of tomatoes. Also, our pumpkin seedlings came up, so we should have the perfect pumpkins right at Halloween. So excited!

My fiance planted beetberry, which seems to be doing pretty well. Has anyone had any experience with these plants?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: ptarmic wumpus on September 06, 2010 06:42:23 PM
We may get a frost tonight, and although I put covers over most everything, I thought I'd take photos in case there is mass slaughter.

Squashland, which has already been frost-kissed.  Pumpkins are visible lurking in the undergrowth. I'm not in charge of Squashland, one of the other gardeners set it up in the back corner of the community garden.


A baby hubbard, with about 10 lbs to go to full size. If it can make it until the end of the month, it might reach that goal.


The out of control herb area with bonus wildfire smoke plume.


Tomatoes, now tented for protection


I let a few of the late season artichokes go to bloom. This is the biggest one, probably 10" across:





Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: h_pets360 on September 07, 2010 09:15:03 AM
I've had a mediocre year.  I saved a lot of pea seeds, only to discover that they had been invaded from the inside by some little black bug eating a perfectly round hole through a good number of them.  :/  oh well, the chickens appreciated them.
Also, the tomatoes don't want to ripen.  Out of like 16 plants, I've gotten 5 ripe tomatoes.  I think next year, I might try the early varieties again. 
The carrots are good.  Tiny, maybe an inch to 2 inches long, but good.  and I've got some winter stuff started, so we'll see if that's a better season for me this year.


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: CraftyLittleLady on September 09, 2010 05:15:47 PM
I tried planting from seed once.  I bought a ready to plant pot with step by step instructions.  I followed the instruction very well.  I watered and took care of it.  It was my first time to plant and it didn't grow, not even one small leaf.  I guess I don't have what they call a "green thumb".


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: blushingbluegrass on September 10, 2010 04:08:52 AM
I tried planting from seed once.  I bought a ready to plant pot with step by step instructions.  I followed the instruction very well.  I watered and took care of it.  It was my first time to plant and it didn't grow, not even one small leaf.  I guess I don't have what they call a "green thumb".

I have found that the seeds in those ready to plant pots tend to be duds, or just don't work. You should try again!


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: thefloridagurl on April 13, 2011 01:46:28 PM
Alrighty people, new round this year, shall we? And I may even post something, too - although I am "only" container gardening on the balcony...

I am starting with this:
peas
tomatoes
bell peppers
strawberries
wild garlic
spinach
mint
basil
chives

My other herbs - parsley, oregano, thyme - got killed off "by accident" by the hubby when I was out of town for 5 days. Yes, 5 days :/

So what is everyone else up to this year?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: blushingbluegrass on April 13, 2011 02:00:53 PM
Soybeans
Tomato
Cucumber
Zucchini
Spinach
Lettuce
Onion
Carrots
Broccoli
Basil
Cilantro

The boytoy wants to grow hops this year. Any experienced gardeners try this before?


Title: Re: 2010 Garden-a-long?
Post by: SiakelA on May 30, 2011 08:38:15 PM
I've got a handful of tomato plants - I've never gardened anything before though - so wish me luck!!