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Title: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: ivycircle on December 11, 2007 06:45:53 PM
 The other day I bumped into another spinner at my LYS. We were both buying fiber and she mentioned that she never pre-drafted, never! I have always pre-drafted and was really surprised. That got me thinking.......Are you a pre-drafter?


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: weirdlilcraftychic on December 11, 2007 07:35:53 PM
YES...I'm still new, but I definitely pre-draft more now than the first couple of goes...it makes a big difference in ease of drafting, and the finished yarn..


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: natashafatale on December 11, 2007 08:47:46 PM
Yes and no. No I don't pre-draft, but I do run it through my carder now that I have one. If I try to spin right from roving, especially if it's been dyed, sometimes hurts my hands.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Thenutmeg2000 on December 12, 2007 12:16:45 AM
I don't if it is commercially prepared and I can just split the roving. I have on occasion dyed some stuff that required me to predraft cause it almost felted. I do predraft for the spindle , however, but not for wheel spinning. I can go faster on a drop spindle if I predraft...hmm this is perplexing...wow ???


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Weddy_in_Paris on December 12, 2007 04:14:16 AM
YES...I'm still new, but I definitely pre-draft more now than the first couple of goes...it makes a big difference in ease of drafting, and the finished yarn..
I am still new too and do exactly the same as weirdlilcraftychic ! And yes, I think that home dyed fibers really need a lot of pre-drafting too !


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Star217 on December 12, 2007 07:34:17 AM
If its commercially prepared top I split it into strips and spin, drafting as I go along. With batts I predraft depending on how I want the colors to blend and with hand combed I predraft for ease.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Ilsa on December 12, 2007 09:23:26 AM
I find that predrafting commercially prepared roving still makes it easier to spin. The fibers slide easier past one another when you are drafting during spinning. I've purchased roving that is so airy and light that pre-drafting seems unnecessary. Being shipped, compacted or being handled a lot tends to make the roving so dense that if I don't pre-draft spinning becomes a chore.

When I pull roving/sliver myself from combs, pre-drafting makes the fiber more manageable if I'm not pulling it through a diz.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: shewolf on December 12, 2007 12:09:33 PM
I predraft some after I split everything, then draft properly as I spin.

Predrafting puts me into the proper frame of mind.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: raynbow on December 12, 2007 12:23:06 PM
I predraft, lots, and lots and lots.

I've found it makes a huge difference.  I didn't used to, but then I tried it, and now I do it all the time.   I tend to just sit on the couch with a bag of roving and predraft while I'm watching tv with the hubby.

P.S. Hi SheWolf!


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Skeffto on December 12, 2007 01:21:21 PM
I always predraft if it's some commercially prepared fibre. 

Whenever I've hand-dyed wool it's become so felted that I've had to card it all in order to spin it!  Must stop poking it about in the dyebath...   ::)

I agree that sitting predrafting fibre is a great way to get in the frame of mind for spinning!   :D


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: thegoodsheep on December 12, 2007 01:50:27 PM
I do not pre draft - I split my roving and draft further as I spin. I treat commercially and hand dyed roving the same (that said i dye my own and it turns out full and fluffy, if it was roving with felty bits I might treat it different).


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: jacquiw on December 18, 2007 09:47:24 PM
Nope never.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: mullerslanefarm on December 21, 2007 12:16:21 PM
It depends on the fiber and what you consider pre-drafting.

Is splitting batts and roving pre-drafting? Is fluffing compacted roving predrafting? 

I guess I do what my fiber tells me to do!


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: LUBEE on December 25, 2007 04:54:43 AM
I predraft, lots, and lots and lots.

I've found it makes a huge difference.  I didn't used to, but then I tried it, and now I do it all the time.   I tend to just sit on the couch with a bag of roving and predraft while I'm watching tv with the hubby.

me too!
sometimes i get ideas for some new yarns and i predraft them the night before so when i get home from work i can break open the ziplocks that i keep the predrafted fiber in and get cranking on the wheel.
i find it to be really easy but to tell you the truth... i dont know any other way i have always predrafed.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Tinkerbellforever on December 30, 2007 10:16:15 PM
As far as the spindle is concerned, I find it's waaay too hard for me to try to draft the fibers as I spin [hurts my fingers too, ouchy].
I also have a lot less control over the evenness of the yarn, so I have to stop more frequently.
I usually use commercially prepared top, and I generally split, predraft, then roll the pieces into little balls or hanks and just spin away when it's all prepped...it seems like it goes a lot quicker that way.

I'll let you know how I feel about that once I get cranked up on the wheel, though.

the only exception to that is the llama I have been spinning..it's baby llama, from the first shearing, and has never been shipped. it's extremely airy and light, and needs no predrafting at all, really.

Lubee: I split and predraft while watching TV too! my mom complains because I get fibers all over the dark colored couch! :P


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: pmpknpunk on January 22, 2008 10:58:00 AM
Does anyone have a picture of their predrafted fiber? I sometimes feel like I am "cheating" when I pull them into strips and then them out to the size I want. I'm not doing something "wrong" when I do this am I? It just seems easier to spin for me when I do this...is there really a wrong way to draft?!


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: Star217 on January 22, 2008 11:54:53 AM
pmpknpunk: here's a batt that I predrafted through a diz
Before

After


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: MissTessaMelissa on January 22, 2008 04:03:18 PM
Star217 those are both the same picture.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: pmpknpunk on January 23, 2008 05:32:08 AM
Thanks Star! I predraft even more than that I think but I'm a beginner and there is so much going on, I feel ok about the size of my predraft, no predraft envy, hehe!

Thanks again! Jenna


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: jazzturtle on January 23, 2008 07:35:26 AM
I definitly pre draft!! I also find it helps with the evenness of my yarn.  I am also a wheel beginner though.. so i may predraft less as I get better..

I pre draft as i watch tv, as some other people mentioned.  I'll do an entire roving at once, but I like to do batts in strips, because I think batt's "shed" more than roving, so I do more stopping and starting when spinning batts.

I haven't gotten the hang of just spinning off the entire batt yet.. I pull strips off my batts, then draft into roving...


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: mandalinn on January 27, 2008 08:17:03 AM
I almot always predraft.  The only time I don't is if it is silk or something like that, but then I usually spin from the fold.  If I don't predraft it gets too uneven and chunky for me.


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: TheBon on February 22, 2008 10:46:31 AM
It depends on the kind of yarn I am spinning, but usually, no. Frequently I will split the roving lengthwise, but that's as far as it gets. And if I'm spinning something like Crown Mountain Farms' rovings I don't do that, although I do split it into shorter pieces in order to alternate [the way the old dyer dyed the rovings they are darker on one end than the other, she advises separating the halves and then breaking them into shorter pieces and alternating to achieve maximum barber pole striping]


Title: Re: A sort of poll....Do you pre-draft your fiber?
Post by: nicolassa on February 22, 2008 02:30:06 PM
I hardly ever predraft, unless the fiber is majorly compacted and/or partially felted.  I just can't...too anxious to spin!   ;D 

I usually just grab a hunk of roving or top and start spinning.  I've heard this called "spinning from the web", meaning the whole web of fibers.  My spinning instructor mentioned at my last class that predrafting can "disturb" the fibers?!  I need to ask for clarification on that one. 

Sometimes if I have a particularly difficult/icky fiber I'll spin over the fold.

Since I worsted draft through my middle and ring fingers (where I grab the fibers) and then coming up through my index and thumb (where I pinch the twist) (yes, this is a sorta weird way of doing it), I have two areas where I'm able to hold back the twist, so drafting isn't too difficult for me.