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« on: May 02, 2006 04:14:12 PM »

A few disclaimers before we begin:  The idea of combining images from Chick Tracts and hardcore pornography is one I've been fooling with for a while.  My original thought was more whimsical - this is more serious.  However, it isn't my intent to offend anyone with this.  I'm simply bothered by the idea that certain people feel it necessary to lie about condoms and other methods of birth control/STD prevention in an attempt to keep teenagers from getting busy.  I think it does more harm than good.  But that's my opinion.

Also, although I covered up naughty bits, it is very very very clear what the people in these pictures are doing.  If you don't want to see people getting naughty, don't read any further.

Are we good?  Okay.  Here we go.

I started with this:



And I turned it into this:



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Comments?  Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006 04:17:15 PM »

wow... I didn't know that those lies were spread as propaganda for real.
Good job.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006 04:17:55 PM »

thats very creative. i love reading the chick tracts because they're so ridiculous. my favorite is the one called trust me.
but thats a very good way of getting information out there. its creative and it tells people the truth.
job well done!
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006 04:29:24 PM »

wow... I didn't know that those lies were spread as propaganda for real.
Good job.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/medicalinfo/teensexualhealth/fact-abstinence-education.xml

Abstinence-only sex ed has lead to some scary, scary things being taught IN OUR SCHOOLS.  It is bothersome to say the least, but it's not a topic that gets much press.  I hadn't thought about it much myself until I read about it in (of all unlikely places) Glamour magazine.  It's truly frightening.

Also, certain religous groups have been pushing this doctrine in Africa, where HIV is epidemic and knowledge is vital to human survival.  So...  yeah.  It's out there.  And it's doing damage.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006 04:33:12 PM »

Very edgy.  I love it!
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006 04:38:47 PM »

wicked awesome!

i love it!

You should soo sent the Chick guy a copy of this.   Grin
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2006 04:47:57 PM »

this is brilliant. its a good balance between 'sex is really ok' and 'their message is quite damaging'
It is rather terifying that they push this in Africa, a place where AIDS is an absolute problem.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006 04:32:45 PM »

Very nice! Not something I'd hang on my wall, but most great art wouldn't go with my decor. I absolutely LOVE this entry on several levels. Good job!
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006 05:43:08 PM »

it's great, I find it so terrifying that not only do people get away with saying this stuff, but they are listened to. AIDS is a problem everywhere and teaching kids that abstinence is the only way is not only ineffective, it can be pretty damaging in all sorts of ways. Well done
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2006 07:02:13 PM »

I love how they say that sex against Marriage is naughty, and God Said that it Shoudl Not Be Done. Pshh. Bullshite. Adam and Eve weren't technically married, and God said, hey, go do it. In  fact, I believe there is a story where God tells the Good Guys to go and kill the Bad Guys and take their women. What, to be married? Not to mention the fact that Lot offered up his daughters to save his own arse (literally) And pft, "God Said to kill people who commited adultery" not people. Women. The women were to be stoned, men were just driven out. In fact, you could accuse a woman of adultery and she'd get stoned. Rarrgh raggr raar Chick Tracts! *deep breath* Anyway, I love this painting. You did very good. The rant is not your fault, really. This is awesome.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2006 07:21:56 PM »

this is so great!!!

I've been collecting chick tracts and other biblical tracts for years.. I keep them in small photo albums so I can still pull them out and read them.  You just gave me an idea for a project I can use my doubles for! thank you!
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2006 08:30:38 PM »

oh, this is totally getting a "this rocks". great job & very cool idea. keep up the good work!
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2006 01:55:54 AM »

What exactly are Chick Tracts? i can kind of get the idea, but still id like to know!
I like this, i think its a great idea.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006 09:03:27 AM »

Abstinence-only sex ed has lead to some scary, scary things being taught IN OUR SCHOOLS.  It is bothersome to say the least, but it's not a topic that gets much press. 


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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006 09:03:36 AM »

I'm currently researching the problem of mother-to-child transmission of HIV in Africa for my undergraduate dissertation, but what I'm increasingly realising that preventing women getting the virus in the first place is the best thing we (in the West) can do.  When even a Catholic Bishop (albeit one on the Left) says that condoms should be used to stop HIV+ people from spreading the virus, times might be changing.

Sorry, that was a very long-winded way of saying "Thank you" for attempting to raise awareness about this mis-information-led propagander.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2006 09:21:34 AM »

What exactly are Chick Tracts? i can kind of get the idea, but still id like to know!
I like this, i think its a great idea.


A quick Google search turned up this entry at Wikipedia.

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Jack Thomas Chick (born April 13, 1924) of Chick Publications is a comic book artist and publisher. He is known for his controversial comic-style tracts (informally known as Chick Tracts) and larger comic books for the purpose of Christian evangelism from a fundamentalist point of view. Chick is an Independent Baptist, a premillennial dispensationalist, follower of the King James Only Movement, and an opponent of Roman Catholicism.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2006 01:58:51 PM »

I was actually told by my sex ed teacher that aids could pass through condoms. I thought she was right for a really long time because no one told me otherwise... this really resonates with me.
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2006 02:03:29 PM »

I was actually told by my sex ed teacher that aids could pass through condoms. I thought she was right for a really long time because no one told me otherwise... this really resonates with me.

hmmm, he/she might have been giving you PART of the information... whether it was accidental or not, who knows these days.  i believe LAMBSKIN condoms (for those allergic to latex), have tiny holes that are large enough for the HIV virus to pass through. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2006 02:34:17 PM »

I think lambskin will actually rip easier, though i'm not positive on that. I know they aren't as safe for any sort of sexual contact. But she also told the class that it was a really bad idea to use a tampon until after sex, so.. i'm pretty sure she was actually catholic and trying to convince the class to follow her misguided beliefs. Nothing against catholics, i'm just saying it's not good to use your religious beliefs to teach a sex ed class in a public schools.
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2006 07:47:37 PM »

I think lambskin will actually rip easier, though i'm not positive on that. I know they aren't as safe for any sort of sexual contact. But she also told the class that it was a really bad idea to use a tampon until after sex, so.. i'm pretty sure she was actually catholic and trying to convince the class to follow her misguided beliefs. Nothing against catholics, i'm just saying it's not good to use your religious beliefs to teach a sex ed class in a public schools.

Actually, she doesn't have to be Catholic - the quotes in the image come from Jack Chick's tracts, and he freaking hates Catholics.  I believe he's gone so far as to blame them for the Holocaust.  Certain Christian groups hate anything to do with birth control, because sex is only supposed to be part of marriage, and the point of marriage is to have children, so the only time you would use birth control is if you're having sex out-of-wedlock.

And I can actually see that, for some women, you might want to wait until after your first intercourse to put a tampon in.  It sometimes takes that little extra...  something to really stretch out your hymen.  That probably isn't why she thought girls should wait, but...  there is an element of truth to it nevertheless.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2006 08:23:56 PM »

I've seen a ton of great photoshops on rpg.net. . . Jack Chick is comedic gold Smiley

Sad how someone can be so full of hate yet says he's Christian. . .

Well, I know where I'M going when it ends. . . and I feel pretty sure Chick won't be there.

Great job, btw!
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2006 08:38:15 PM »

Ok first I must say that I love this work. It's in your face, but not offensive, witty, and creative. Well done!
I think lambskin will actually rip easier, though i'm not positive on that. I know they aren't as safe for any sort of sexual contact. But she also told the class that it was a really bad idea to use a tampon until after sex, so.. i'm pretty sure she was actually catholic and trying to convince the class to follow her misguided beliefs. Nothing against catholics, i'm just saying it's not good to use your religious beliefs to teach a sex ed class in a public schools.

Actually, she doesn't have to be Catholic - the quotes in the image come from Jack Chick's tracts, and he freaking hates Catholics.  I believe he's gone so far as to blame them for the Holocaust.  Certain Christian groups hate anything to do with birth control, because sex is only supposed to be part of marriage, and the point of marriage is to have children, so the only time you would use birth control is if you're having sex out-of-wedlock.
And I can actually see that, for some women, you might want to wait until after your first intercourse to put a tampon in.  It sometimes takes that little extra...  something to really stretch out your hymen.  That probably isn't why she thought girls should wait, but...  there is an element of truth to it nevertheless.

Gotta agree with you there, although I orignally wanted to comment on the painting! Some ppl are just uncomfortable with the idea of tampons, but as an old Catholic school girl, I can guarantee that this woman's warning against tampons was not necessarilya "Catholic thing." It could just be a woman thing! Remember the first time you tried to use one ladies! Scary!

 And yes, lambskin is less effective in preventing pregnancy and the spread of STD's. That's a fact. So for anyone with a latex allergy who must use lambskin, better seek alternate forms like the pill or patch! Oh yeah, or abstinence! Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2006 12:12:04 AM »

i love it. super good. abstinence-only sex ed doesn't do shit
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2006 12:46:53 AM »

This makes me happy and almost (almost) makes me feel bad for throwing out Chick Tracts when I run across them.

Almost.

I'd love to see more work in this vein.
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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2006 08:48:17 AM »

And yes, lambskin is less effective in preventing pregnancy and the spread of STD's. That's a fact. So for anyone with a latex allergy who must use lambskin, better seek alternate forms like the pill or patch! Oh yeah, or abstinence! Smiley

I'm allergic to latex, and they make non-latex, non-skin condoms.  They're made out of poly-urethane.  Trojan Supras and Durex Avantis.  Avantis are the best in my experience. 
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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2006 12:30:24 PM »

this is awesome. way to speak out for an extremely important cause in an artistic and creative way.
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2006 04:08:48 PM »

Wow.  I'd never heard of these Chick tracts and after seeing your artwork I looked them up.  I'm speechless.  They're funny, in a ridiculous, but incredibly disturbing.  I think there is a great deal of good in all religions, but when any of them are taken to the biased, narrowminded extremes in these pamphlets they are chilling. I can't comprehend how these could ever 'save' anyone...

Well, that's my 2 cents.  Thanks for provoking some fascinating but disturbing reading.  I really liked the contrast between the porno images and the Chick tracts.  I'm so glad Craftster is full of sane people like you.
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2006 08:47:57 PM »

I believe your intent is to expose the lies that create a culture of fear...and with Halloween on the way and speaking of instilling fear...I heard a great "This American Life" on NPR a few years back on the Hell House hosted by Trinity Church in TX.  It is really quite disturbing; essentially it is a haunted house depicting sinners and hell; the young girls fight over who gets to play those most wretched of sinners...women who have abortions.  They also described scenes of gay men dying horrifying deaths of AIDS. It is extreme for sure but it makes me wonder how a culture of fear affects the youth of this country...following are links to a documentary movie on the topic, articles, and the NPR story.

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A84980
http://www.hellhousemovie.com/
http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2002/aug/hellhouse/
http://www.thislife.org/   Go to this site and find episode 213 "Devil On My Shoulder"
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2006 10:54:22 PM »

That is really interesting! I had no idea. That's certainly not what I was taught in public school... but I went to a bunch of them.

I'm allergic to latex, and they make non-latex, non-skin condoms.  They're made out of poly-urethane.  Trojan Supras and Durex Avantis.  Avantis are the best in my experience. 

I'm also allergic, and for a long time (years) I didn't know it. I just wanted to add--I hope not too graphically--that if regular condoms ever create a burning or pinching sensation... it's probably an allergy!
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