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« on: March 20, 2006 02:49:48 PM »

Heres some more of my Sculpy creations, pushpins/thumb tacks
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2006 03:04:19 PM »

What kind of glue do you use? I have trouble attaching sculpey or fimo or whatever to anything metal.

I have no problems using craft glue for wood... but metal has been a problem.

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2006 03:23:24 PM »

I dont use glue at all.  We put the pin inside the scupey.  Ill have to do a little tutorial sometime.  Basically the head of the pin is covered and the pin part sticks out, make sense?
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2006 03:31:57 PM »

I am in love with your nightmare before christmas push pins!!!! oogie boogie is the bomb Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006 09:04:37 PM »

Thanks!  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2006 04:40:43 PM »

I love these!  How cool.  Good job!
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006 05:23:32 PM »

Wow!!!  Those rock!  Great job!
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006 05:25:01 PM »

aww..zero is so cute! great job!
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2006 11:43:47 PM »

Those are AWESOME!!!! I love them!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2006 11:08:20 AM »

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I have trouble attaching sculpey or fimo or whatever to anything metal.

If you can't embed the push pin (or tack, etc.) in the clay, you'll probably do best with a 2-pt epoxy glue or a silicone glue like E-6000.  Superglues should work too but they need a good sized area of exactly matching surfaces. 
If you can create even a partial "mechanical" hold by pressing the clay around the head a little, that should keep the clay on (if you have some of a plastic pushpin exposed though, it may be that it will distort a little in the baking, but don't know). 

There's more info on making push pins and tacks with polymer clay on this page for anyone interested:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/kids_beginners.htm
...click on Tacks-pins) under Other Ideas & Misc.Techniques... )

P.S.  Since these will get a lot of stress in use, it'd be better to use a strong clay brand (Premo, FimoClassic, Kato Polyclay, or Cernit) rather than a weaker one (Sculpey, FimoSoft) if not making rounded thick clay parts, etc.


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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2006 02:42:48 PM »

those are so cute....you should sell them
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2006 02:47:23 PM »

I love you Diane B. Your posts are always so helpful and your site rules.

About these thumbtacks, since there is no glue used, wouldn't they eventually weaken and crack because when you stick them in something (wall, cork board etc.) and them have to pull them out, Aren't you putting stress on the clay, not the glue (because you didn't use any)??

If the glue eventually gave out you could reglue it. But if the clay gives out then it would be much harder to fix and maybe not fixable. Or am I just overthinking this whole thing? hehe...
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2006 04:45:51 PM »

My sis and I have been making these pins for years now.
We prefer Sculpey over any other clay beacause of its simplicity and versatility.
They have never broken the key is to make them thick enough.
Glue often lets go.
Try it and see, after 5 years from the first one we made the clay is still holding strong after much use.
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2006 05:00:02 PM »

That bis so freaking awesome!!  I have scupley clay sitting here, you just gave me tons of ideas!!
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2006 08:04:02 PM »

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I love you Diane B. Your posts are always so helpful and your site rules.

Aw-w-w.... thanks  Grin

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About these thumbtacks, since there is no glue used, wouldn't they eventually weaken and crack because when you stick them in something (wall, cork board etc.) and them have to pull them out, Aren't you putting stress on the clay, not the glue (because you didn't use any)??
If the glue eventually gave out you could reglue it. But if the clay gives out then it would be much harder to fix and maybe not fixable. Or am I just overthinking this whole thing? hehe...

You're not overthinking at all... those are the kinds of details that can cause heartbreak.  We run into them all the time in polymer clay.

So the deal in this case is.... if you made thumbtacks where the clay wrapped around the tack head, or all the way around even covering the back, creating a "mechanical hold," and then properly baked them, a strong clay would never "give out" from stress (...it could be abraided or cut though, if stressed by rough or sharp things over time, of course). 

That's not true for Sculpey though --and now FimoSoft as well-- unless any of the stressed areas of clay are fairly thick... then they'd probably be okay.  Those clays are just more "brittle" in thin areas though because of their formulations, and can snap or chip if stressed.  The stronger clays (Premo, FimoClassic, Kato, Cernit) would simply bend if stressed.... they're not "brittle" (you'll notice that even the surface of a strong clay and a weak one are different; one is harder, one is a bit "softer." 
(In fact, if you made a thin strip of a strong clay, baked it properly, and then tried to tear or break it, you probably couldn't do it.)

When any of the brands are thick though, they're stronger (still relative to total thickness and total stress though).  Plus, rounded, thick items like balls, etc., are such inherently strong shapes all by themselves that they're almost impossible to break even with a more brittle clay like Sculpey or the new version of FimoSoft.

This is not to say that you might not prefer to use a glue underneath the clay as well for even more strength, or to prevent wriggle if the clay isn't tight to the metal  --using a strong white glue, then letting it tack up before adding the clay can give a little tooth to the metal, so that's can maybe be good idea anyway... and/or using a bit of liquid clay even beside the white glue could give even more strength too.  But, those things aren't really necessary for strength.




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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2006 10:14:01 PM »

I suppose it's up to the users experience, but as I said before none of our pins have broken at the tack part.  So until I encounter a single problem like that I will use sculpey and also encourage others to use it as well.
Fimo is harder to work with, it crumbles and its more difficult to work with thats all
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2006 03:46:19 PM »

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I suppose it's up to the users experience, but as I said before none of our pins have broken at the tack part. 


Oh, I didn't mean to imply that all Sculpey-covered tacks would break.  For one thing,  your tacks are completely embedded, so those parts of the clay should be pretty strong since they have an armature underneath (...as long as the clay covering isn't really thin).
 
I would be suprised though if any of the parts without armatures, added to the tack head for example, didn't break in thin areas when stressed.  That's just the nature of those really soft clays (probably because of the amount of plasticizer required to make them that way).

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. . . I will use sculpey and also encourage others to use it as well.  Fimo is harder to work with, it crumbles and its more difficult to work with thats all

True, especially if you don't buy FimoClassic "fresh" online, though Premo is one very good alternate choice because it's both strong after baking and softer than FimoClassic when raw.

Each to his own though!   I guess I've just seen too many heart-broken kids (and adults) who'd worked hard on a Sculpey item, only to see it break after awhile.  They never knew why, and never knew it could be avoided by using a stronger brand, so many of them just gave up on polymer clay in frustration.  Cry


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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2006 11:37:08 PM »

well no heartbreak here
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2006 11:41:23 AM »

Those are really cool!  I should make some South Park ones for my little brother.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2006 03:30:44 PM »

Love the South Park ones!
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2006 07:40:03 PM »

Those are really cool!  I should make some South Park ones for my little brother.

Thanks! Actually, that's funny I made the South Park set for my brother as a Christmas gift this year, he asked me where I got them, and was surprised to find out I made them. I make these pins for people on differnt occasions, the hard part is trying to come up with pins they would like, but I always get a good reaction to them. Coming soon nintendo and claymation inspired pushpins. My sister posted this project for me before I had my own account when I was a craftster novice:) I'm glad to hear you all like them so much, such a friendly community!
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2006 08:07:54 PM »

I absolutely love these! The Nightmare Before Christmas and Emily ones are my faves! Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2006 07:59:57 PM »

Those are Great! Love the NIghtmare Before Christmas ones. And I love the fact that there are discussions on how to create ones of my own.
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2006 09:23:37 AM »

I love those pins!! I might just have to make me some South Park ones ...but Butters and Lemmiwinks after my cats!!
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2006 04:18:20 AM »

Are these for sale by any chance?

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