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« on: February 27, 2006 02:57:28 AM »

I did a polymer clay workshop recently and learned how to make bullseye canes.   I covered a small mint tin.

The eraser is in the picture to show scale.


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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006 03:24:27 AM »

it's cute, i really like it!

so the clay is just rolled up, cut into thin thin slices and put on the box? or how did you do it?
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006 04:26:27 AM »

It's beautifull!
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006 08:22:12 AM »

Really nice covering!  Great colors too  Cool

Were you taking your slices from hand-made wrapped canes (aka bullseye canes), or were you using the cheat-y method with a clay gun??

(for anyone else interested in making either type, you can find lessons and examples on these pages at my site:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/canes--instructions.htm
....click on Bullseye Canes....
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/claygun.htm
...click on "Automatically Wrapped Canes", under Uses, then look for what I call "Dot Slices"...)


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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006 12:38:51 PM »

I love it. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006 12:42:42 PM »

Thats really beautiful! Did you make all those canes?
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006 12:56:59 PM »

Really nice covering!  Great colors too  Cool

Were you taking your slices from hand-made wrapped canes (aka bullseye canes), or were you using the cheat-y method with a clay gun??


I used a clay gun.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006 05:50:14 AM »

OOOOOHHHHHHH! Cute, cute, cute! Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006 07:19:15 AM »

That's super cute....I have an altoids tin right here that's begging to be covered!
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006 07:20:02 AM »

I love that!  It's beautiful and looks so professional.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006 07:25:20 AM »

so i want to do something similar to this. i just took advantage of that crazy sculpey sale at michaels and bought a ton so i finally get to give this polymer clay thing a whirl. anyway, how do you attach it to the tin? do you sculpt it around the tin, take off and bake, then glue on?
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2006 08:04:18 AM »

starlawill, one thing to be aware of when "covering" things with a layer of polymer clay is that Sculpey isn't the best brand to use... it's weak and easily breakable in thin or projecting areas, and with the covering technique, every area is thin  Shocked (Sculpey's "strong" though when it's formed as inherently strong shapes like round balls, etc.). 
If you do use Sculpey to cover your tin,  you'll want to treat the tin carefully after baking so that it won't chip or break... iow, no stress. 
You could also mix a stronger brand of polymer clay into your Sculpey (the more you mix in, the stronger the result... stronger clays would be any but Sculpey...so Fimo, Premo, Kato, Cernit)

(I'm sure qazicat will tell you how she covered her tins... there are various ways to do it though, so if you want to check out even more ways, look on this page at my site:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/covering.htm
...click on "Altoid and other Tins/Boxes" under the Metal subcategory...)


Let us see what you do!



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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2006 09:13:04 AM »

i really like it!! i always wanted to learn how to make those clay canes!!
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2006 09:19:00 AM »

ok thanks! premo was also on sale so i bought some of that as well. it's good to know about the sculpey!
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2006 12:10:40 PM »

Wow that is great - love the look of it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2006 12:13:37 PM »

Wow, that is beautiful! I love the colours you used...it reminds me of that artist who does something like that but with painting....arg, I wish I could remember his name.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2006 12:41:05 PM »

so i want to do something similar to this. i just took advantage of that crazy sculpey sale at michaels and bought a ton so i finally get to give this polymer clay thing a whirl. anyway, how do you attach it to the tin? do you sculpt it around the tin, take off and bake, then glue on?

cut slices of polymer cane, press onto tin, cut away excess, press slightly with finger to mould joins, bake tin, when cool sand with 400 grade wet and dry sand paper with water, then sand with 800 grade wet and dry with water, polish with soft cloth.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2006 08:01:44 PM »

Very cute!  I can't wait to try this technique.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006 09:05:36 PM »

Wow, that is beautiful! I love the colours you used...it reminds me of that artist who does something like that but with painting....arg, I wish I could remember his name.

Gustav Klimt is the artist
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2006 11:16:02 PM »

Yes! that's him...I have been trying to figure it out.  I heard of him 3 years ago in an art class and my memory stinks so...heh, thank you again!

Wow, that is beautiful! I love the colours you used...it reminds me of that artist who does something like that but with painting....arg, I wish I could remember his name.

Gustav Klimt is the artisit
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2006 07:13:03 AM »

Beautifully done!! So what's your next polymer clay project? I can't wait to find out!
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2006 11:18:43 AM »

this looks like a great first time project I am gonna try it I think. yours looks great.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2006 10:24:51 AM »

I love the earrings and the altoids tin!
I have a question though...what do you use your covered tins for? Because I've covered tins for gifts for friends who use them all the time and the clay starts to flake off or just breaks up from repeated opening and closing and bending of the metal. Do yours do that too?
That tin is just so cool and pretty.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2006 10:20:39 AM »

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the clay starts to flake off or just breaks up from repeated opening and closing and bending of the metal.

That shouldn't happen as long as certain things are kept in mind. 

First, brittle clays like Sculpey III can't be used for thin applications like this if there will be stress on them later... they will break.  Using a stronger (more flexible) clay like Premo, FimoClassic, or Kato Polyclay should work fine.

Also, this isn't necessary to do if the clay will have a "mechanical" hold on the lid, but some people like to paint the tin with white glue (not "school" white glue) then let it dry, before adding the clay (...clean surfaces with alcohol first to make sure no oil from fingers, dirt, etc.). 
"White glues" are polyvinyl acetate so they do several good things:
...bond with the clay during baking, act as a temperature buffer between the clay and the metal while baking (because they expand at different rates), and also act as a cushion after the clay is baked because they remain flexible.

(One problem can be the hinge area though, so the hinge should be free of clay in its whole swing.)

Also, having some kind of knob or thick or projecting area built onto the front of the lid can help with opening it too... takes stress off the covering, or at least spreads it out, etc.

Not exactly sure if "flaking" off is different from breaking though... if so, could you define that a little more?  (clay shouldn't flake off unless any bonds made weren't sufficient, or brittle clays were used)




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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2006 05:42:44 AM »

Cute!! What is a clay gun?  I have worked with polymer clay in the past but never heard of a clay gun,  Thanks Smiley
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What is a clay gun?


A clay gun is a metal extruder originally used with soft earth clay... we started using them with polymer clay too,  The ones you can find in a craft store, etc., have a fairly small barrel, but there are also some with large and humongous barrels. 
There are various brands of clay guns too.

They come with various metal disks which fit in the end (most guns come with about 20), each of which has a hole in its center in the shape of a round disk or a square or triangle, etc.... the clay is pushed through that hole and comes out as a long log of round or triangular, etc., clay. These extrusions can be used in various ways... to frame pendants, as onlays, to do Balinese Filigree patterns, to make or add to canes, to twist, etc., etc., and also to create "automatically wrapped" canes when more than one color is put in the barrel as done here. 

It's important to know that any polymer clay extruded through a clay gun must be soft, or softened first, or it will extrude very slowly and possibly even push out or bend the pattern disk ... and it can also be very hard on your hands!  (they were intended for earth clays, remember!)
Many people like to make or buy a "helper" or "pusher" for the regular clay gun so it's easier to extrude the clay, especially when a larger amount is needed... these come as different types too, and a few clay guns you can find online have built-in pushers.

Oh, and btw, they ordinary clay guns you'll find in a craft store are pretty cheap... about $10.


There's a load of info on clay guns on this page ... different types and brands, pushers, things one can do with them, how to clean them, etc.:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/claygun.htm

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