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« on: January 26, 2006 09:17:50 AM »

I have fallen madly in love with the Debbie Bliss Felted Tweed book.  However, since I can't afford to spring for Debbie Bliss tweed yarn or the Rowan Yorkshire Tweed ($14.95/hank!), I searched desperately for an alternative and found this one:

http://www.yarn.com/yarns-knitting/2-4-highlandTweed.html

Now, I can do yarn on a cone, but what's this business about being in oil?

"The yarn is still in spinning oil. The water will be a milky white as the oil washes out; the fabric will be soft."

I feel like I am buying tuna.  How on earth do I knit with oily yarn? Am I supposed to unwind into skeins and soak in hot water??  Huh
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2006 10:33:13 AM »

I love knitting with coned yarn.  I personally don't wash the yarn before I knit with it, but I have heard of other people doing so.  The yarn will be kinda rough right off the cone, so I assume that is why they want it pre-washed.  (To me, that's just a lot of unnecessary extra work!) 

Whether you decide to pre-wash or not, be sure to use the gauge of a WASHED swatch, cause the yarn will almost certainly bloom quite a lot.  You might even want to wash it a couple or three times, just to make sure you get all the gunk out.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2006 11:03:04 AM »

I just bought two cones of fingering weight cashmere (mm... cashmere) that's the same way.  I totally agree with zoe84's comment about gauging AFTER washing.  It "puffs" up wonderfully! 
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2006 11:08:10 AM »

I don't understand why the put it in oil---or are all yarns put in oil at some point? i'm confused
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2006 11:12:02 AM »

I think that yarns sold on the cone are meant to be used for weaving or machine knitting, and the oil is necessary in that context.  For hand knitting, it just becomes an annoyance.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2006 11:50:02 AM »

2 things:

skrillaknits works at WEBS (the site you linked), she may be able to answer your question for you...

also...it's called spinning oil...maybe some folks on the spinning board know what's up with this...i'm getting the feeling that oil might be used to tame the yarn down in machine spinning, and it washes out once the piece is cleaned, but i'm only guessing here...

eta:  i guessed correctly...sorta...it's to reduce static and breakage while spinning...particularly for wool that has lost it's natural oils during cleaning...google "spinning oil" and you'll get some knitting links. =]

and i don't think it's "in" oil, it sounds like it was oiled during the spinning process, and the coned yarn still has an oily feel.  i have a couple handspun yarns like this.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2006 11:58:47 AM »

Thank you all for the explanations and suggestions.  That helps me a lot!  I have no problem buying Debbie Bliss or Rowan yarn usually, but for some reason, this particular pattern calls for 25 skeins! (*ulp*)

See my fantasy sweater:  the "Ribbed Swing"
http://www.theknittinggarden.com/db-tweedcoll.htm
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2006 12:22:00 PM »

I'm thinking about buying yarn from the same place and in the same condition.  So I'm curious about zzjulia's results -- did you buy the yarn?  Did you prewash?  Please share!  I'm a little intimidated by the whole spinning oil and "blooming" business and would love to hear about your experience.

thanks!
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2006 02:25:24 PM »

Hoping this is not a dumb question but how do you you prewas yarn, especially on a cone?Huh
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2006 09:14:21 AM »

Hoping this is not a dumb question but how do you you prewas yarn, especially on a cone?Huh

You take it off the cone and put it up as hanks and then wash it.  Ditto if you're going to dye it, etc.
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