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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2006 12:28:58 PM »

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(There are a couple here: www.jennastahl.com/Sketchbook/aliens/index.html.) It just seems like polymer is the perfect medium for them


Oh, definitely!!



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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2006 12:21:09 PM »

well people on here make some really cool stuff out of polymer clay fake food, earings, and little things how do you make it and how do you make salt dough? i need step by step because im 11 and im smart just not with directions
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2006 12:52:42 PM »

Unfortunately, I don't think you can make polymer clay like you can with the salted dough because the polymer clay is filled with different ingredients like resins, plasticizers and stuff (it's man made, and plastic-based) .  I  looked on google for polymer clay recipes, the first site I saw with a 'how to' was

http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf681300.tip.html

or there is sand clay (http://www.checnet.org/HealtheHouse/education/articles-detail.asp?Main_ID=496) :

Sand Clay
Recipe adapted from: Nature With Children of All Ages by Edith A. Sisson (Prentice Hall, 1990)

      1 cup fine beach sand
      1/2 cup corn starch
      1/2 cup boiling water
      double boiler

Mix the sand and cornstarch thoroughly in the top of the double boiler (being careful not to scratch the bottom of the pan). Pour in the boiling water and mix well. Cook in the double boiler briefly until the mixture has thickened. Should it be too thick, add a little more boiling water. Let the clay cool for a bit, and you're ready to model! Hint: Try mixing in some food coloring for variety!

When your piece is finished, put it on a flat pan or cookie sheet in a 275 degree oven until dry. You can dry it without the oven, but it will take longer.


I guess you can try one of the two.  Although, I'd opt for choice number 2 because with polymer clays you always have to bake them to have them harden.

hope that helps! Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006 01:56:03 PM »

it kinda helps but i think what you posted might work
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2006 02:26:35 PM »

As Starveill101, mentioned, it's not possible to make polymer clay outside of a lab, and some supplies you'd have to special order in bulk... no clayer I know has done that (and I know a lot of 'em!).

Polymer clay is an oil-based clay, whereas most of the other "clays" you hear about folks making are water-based (iow, there's no water in polymer clay, and it doesn't need to be kept in tightly sealed containers to keep it from "drying out").  
The materials both types of clay have in them to give body can be different ....like organic materials (grains --bread, cornstarch, etc, or wood based pulps --paper, sawdust, or dirt, etc.), or they may be various forms of ground mineral compounds -salt, baking soda, sand, or less commonly they may be manufactured stuff... but the "carriers" are way different (oil vs. water).  

All polymer clays must also be heated to a certain temperature (around 275) for a certain amount of time to create a chemical reaction which will harden and the stuff inside.  
Most air-dry clays on the other hand simply evaporate out all their water leaving behind the fillers, etc.... these may sometimes heated too but only to speed up the evaporation, not to "cure." There are a epoxy clays too, and I believe there may be some chemical reaction there, but think most don't need heating.

The recipe given in the  link http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf681300.tip.html as a "polymer" clay unfortunately isn't polymer.  It's one form of air-dry clay that's got cornstarch as it's main filler... plus white glue (which is a water-based adhesive with + PVA), but it simply air dries and doesn't cure like polymer clay does.

Your best bet for an air-dry, homemade clay that sort of simulates polymer clay is bread dough clay or salt dough clay or a cornstarch clay (you can buy "cold porcelain" clay or mix it from a powder, but it's more futzy to get right and deal with).  

Here are some recipes, if you want to try them out:

Bread Clay
6 slices white bread
6 tbsps. white glue
1/2 tsp. detergent (liquid?, clothes or dishes?)... or 2 tsp. glycerine
food coloring
Remove crusts from bread, and knead with glue.
Add either detergent or glycerine.... knead until no longer sticky.
Separate into portions and add food coloring if desired.
Shape.  
Brush with equal parts of white glue and water if you want a glossy finish.
Allow to dry overnight to harden.
(Paint with acrylic paint if you want as well, or if you didn't color the doughs.
...can also seal at this point with clear nail polish or an acrylic sealer)
.... or seal with white glue at this point (or yellow wood glue)... starting out with a light coat... let dry... then use a heavier coat

cornstarch dough recipe from Carol Duvall Show  ...ornaments, by Sylvia Gomez http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/crafting/article/0,,HGTV_3352_1383427,00.html
(lessons):
..(one cup cornstarch, wooden spoon, one cup (white?) glue, one tablespoon of cold cream, one tablespoon of glycerin, Teflon pan, 1/2 cup water)
1. Place cornstarch in a plastic bowl and make a well in the center. Add water little by little and pound the mixture gently with wooden spoon. Do not stir. If lumps appear, use thumb to smash.
2. Add glue all at once, stirring with wooden spoon. Add cold cream and glycerin then move it all into a Teflon pan. (especially recommended).
Heat over a low temperature while stirring with the wooden spoon for 3-5 min. until it looks like paste.
3. Remove the mixture from the pan and place it on counter to dry for 10 minutes . If the mixture is too dry, knead in small amounts of water using your hands. If the clay is too sticky, knead in small amounts of cornstarch using your hands.
4. With cold cream on hands, knead the dough until there are no lumps. Store the dough in plastic bags until ready to use.
(will shrink 20-30% while drying... drying takes longer in a cold climate (to quicken, place the clay in a scrap of cotton material it's drying)

Carol Duvall's favorite cornstarch clay recipe is the one that for many years appeared on the side of the Argo Cornstarch package:
1 cup cornstarch + 2 cups of baking soda (one pound package) ....1-1/4 cup cold water
... she created little people & trees for her Holiday Village with this clay
http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/crafting/article/0,1789,HGTV_3352_1382824,00.html


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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2006 04:48:55 PM »

i want to buy some of this clay but i dont know where in henderson nevada (thats where i live)  and i have some questions
1. does it come in colors or do you have to dye it yourself
2.does it harden adn if it does how long does it take?
3.does it have to air dry or do you have to put it in the oven or freezer ect.

and does anyone have anything else they can tell me that would be great
i ask these because i have alot of ideas to make out of clay
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2006 05:45:48 PM »

Hi,

I'm running out the door right now, but here are some quick answers to your questions:

... you can buy polymer clay at Michaels (I see you have one in Henderson), and probably some sets at Joann's or at some art supply stores... polymer clays come in several brands, but if you want a suggestion, I'd say start out with a little Premo unless you have hot hands or no air conditioning (can't imagine that though in Nevada!)

...polymer clay is not an "air-dry" clay, so it never "dries"... to harden it, it must be cured in an oven (regular, toaster or convection) for about 20 minutes at around 275 degrees (that's for anything not thicker than say 1/2"... longer for thicker things)

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and does anyone have anything else they can tell me that would be great
i ask these because i have alot of ideas to make out of clay

I can give you loads more info on those things as well as other things about polymer clay later tonight, but I also wanted to mention that there's a good-sized polymer clay guild (club) in Las Vegas that you might want to check out too (polymer guilds welcome everyone from beginners to professionals), and you'll learn a lot there (plus most guilds have lending libraries of polymer tapes and books for free Grin so they're a fabulous resource).



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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2006 09:08:34 PM »

Hi again,

First, you're getting in at a good time!... Michaels is having a 99 cent clay sale starting today which runs for a week (see my post on the details, dated today on this board).

As for basic information about dealiing with polymer clay, here's a page that will tell you how to bake it, how to keep from darkening or even burning the clay, ovens to use, why you'll need an oven thermometer, etc:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/baking.htm

Here's a page on the characteristics of the different brands of polymer clay... how they handle, and how they bake up:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Characteristics.htm

As for color, polymer clays can be purchased already colored, or in white, flesh and terracotta colors which can be colored in other ways if you want. 
There are also special clay "colors" which are "translucent," metallic, rock-like in appearance, and glittery.

All the polymer clay brands and colors can be mixed together to get new colors. or new handling or baked characteristics (the results will depend on the proportions used).   The number of colors possible is almost endless, and some of the clays will do special "tricks" and effects.

Any polymer clay can also be colored with materials other than clay. 
Some of the usual colorants are oil paints, oil pastels, and alcohol inks, as well as less common ones like acrylic paints (use only a little bit), ground spices, artists pigments, etc. 
Other things that can be added to clays (often to translucents) to change their color and visual texure are usually called "inclusions"... those are things like colored play sand, embossing powders, herbs, certain types of glitter, mica powders and real-metal powders, crayon shavings, etc.

Here's a page on recipes for mixing together various colors of clay to get new colors (even whole palettes from just 3 colors plus black & white), if you want to check it out:
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/color.htm

(there's info on more polymer subjects at my website, if you're interested in a particular topic... see link in sig below)

Have fun!



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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2006 09:19:14 PM »

thanks for all the help but i still dont get somthing does it come in colored clay where u dont have to mix them?
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2006 11:03:01 PM »

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does it come in colored clay where u dont have to mix them?

Yes... re color, polymer clays can be purchased already colored... (or in white, flesh, or terracotta colors which can be colored in other ways if you want. . . .)

Of the polymer clay brands you'll see at Michaels, the ones in individual packages (of approximately 2 oz each... Premo, FimoClassic, FimoSoft and Sculpey III) will be various colors... but the "red" of one brand will be a bit different from the "red" of another brand, and so on with all the colors.  Some brands also offer more colors than others, or their colors are truer or more toned down than other brands.  Kato Polyclay (which you won't find at Michaels) comes in fewer pre-mixed colors, but they're very true.

At Michaels or Joann's, etc., you may also see sets of colors (mostly manufactured by Polyform), e.g., Premo or Sculpey III... those are usually half sizes (around 1 oz). 
(If you buy polymer clay online though, you can get most all the colors of the various brands in 1 lb blocks as well).

So just look for the clay display stands in Michaels ... you'll probably just want the ones in small clear packages if you want only pre-colored ones.


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