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Kristen81
« on: December 26, 2005 11:47:51 AM »

Hi,

Don't know if I'm in the right forum (pls move me if I'm not...thx). 

I'm wondering if it's possible to take manufactured wool (bought from a knitting store...or hey...even Wal-mart) and comb it out to make wool fibres that could be felted. 

If so do I NEED a special tool or can I use a wire pet bruch like this:




(All you experienced fleters are probably laughing your butts off right now..."he he he she wants to card wool with a PET BRUSH!!" all right all right let me know when your done holding your insides in). 
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2005 01:02:16 PM »

I felt with my wire ballroom dancing shoe brush, so I don't see why a pet brush wouldn't work. Lamb's Pride yarn will work to pull apart and felt. I've done that before. If you have access to roving though it would be better, because then you don't waste your time pulling the yarn apart etc.

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005 03:09:12 PM »

Thanks so much, can't wait to felt some soap!
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2005 04:23:03 PM »

Check out the needle felting tute pt 2 -  about midway through the tute  http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=51942.0

You can do it, but will never get it as nice as roving.  Mostly is a great technique for small bits. However, if you have the time and the inclination and yarn that destructs well, give it a try.  Wink 

And welcome.  We do lots of "coloring outside the lines" here so you ought to feel much at home.
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2005 04:54:12 PM »

I'm probably telling you the obvious here, but if you're going to use "carded yarn" as wool tops when wet felting
> don't use acrylic yarn. Make sure it's 100% wool
> Check to see if the yarn is shrink treated or machine washable. You don't want wool that won't shrink.

As far as I know, nobody here has tried to wet-felt a whole project out of "carded yarn" so give us a review when you're done  Smiley
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Kristen81
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005 09:18:36 AM »

Hmmm...

Now I'm confused.  I've NEVER felted before.  Am I not supposed to use carded ( ? Brushed out ? ) wool to..say...cover a bar of soap?  That's what I want to try?

What's the difference between roving and carded wool?

Whew!  Can you tell I'm a newbie?

OH! and the tute that GraceOblivious posted is great...looks like I should have no trouble coming out a ball of wool.

Thanks all! 
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2005 09:43:30 AM »

Hi Kristen81,  It is a bit confusing especially to those used to thinking of yarn as the basic fiber. 

Our concern with destructing yarn is that the strands will be broken -- you will not get roving by destructing yarn, you get destructed - untwisted - broken strands.  This is not as likely to felt as nicely as roving.  But, hey, we have not tried wet felting a large piece or over soap using destructed yarn.  So who knows.

This time will send you to The basic needle felt tutorial -  there is a description of roving and batt with pictures in that one.  http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=51271.0

A brief summary:

Batt is the washed sheep fleece that has been carded until the hair strands seperate and until a "fluffy cushion" is created - the strands are fluffed and seperated and are laying in various directions.

Batt may be used for "batting"  for example the soft fluffy piece inside of a quilt. 

Batt is often very good for needle felting and may be used in wet felting.

When the carding process is continued beyond the batt stage roving forms.

Roving is the fiber (hair strands) that has been carded until all the strands lay in the same direction.

So normally, roving is a precurser to yarn.

Roving  is also a precurser to true felting.

Jane Doe and I are working on some basic info on wet felting and needle felting to help with  just this sort of question.  So far we have gotten up a basic FAQ http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=68351.0

And we are in the final draft stages of more specific information on true Wet felting and Needle felting. 

HTH.

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2005 10:07:39 AM »

I felt with my wire ballroom dancing shoe brush, so I don't see why a pet brush wouldn't work. Lamb's Pride yarn will work to pull apart and felt. I've done that before. If you have access to roving though it would be better, because then you don't waste your time pulling the yarn apart etc.



That is intriguing.  Can you direct us to photos of what you have done with your "combed out yarn" or share a few here.  Are you doing this for large pieces? or to add needle felted details to a fulled(shrunken) knit bag?  Thanks so much. 
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Kristen81
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2005 10:10:35 AM »

Good to know!

Thanks you all!  I'll see what I can find for actual roving if I can't find any I'll try with combed out yarn.  I'll post pics either way. 

Would ebay be a good source for roving or can anyone reccomend an online resource (that's not TOO expensive). 
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2005 10:21:16 AM »

That is intriguing.  Can you direct us to photos of what you have done with your "combed out yarn" or share a few here.  Are you doing this for large pieces? or to add needle felted details to a fulled(shrunken) knit bag?  Thanks so much. 

I don't have anything posted that I've done with this, but only SMALL things (ie I'm not doing full bags. My shoes come first so I don't want to mess up their brush)  I have only used it for felt flowers and details. The Lamb's Pride pulls apart very quickly in comparison to other yarns, but still it is too tedious to pull apart yarn for a full project.
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