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« on: December 05, 2005 09:05:07 PM »

Ok, I printed this pattern out for my MIl to make for my son who is 5 --->http://www.knitlist.com/97gift/xmashat.htm
She knits AND crochets, I only crochet....

She has gotten past the ribbing and is on row 1 of the body of the tree BUT she has like half of her stitches left on her needle!?!?!?!?!?!
Any idea why?Huh My son really wants this hat and Grandma really wants to make it for him but she is stumped....

Any help will be greatly appreciated....

Tina
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005 09:11:35 PM »

My first guess would be that it's making short rows for some purpose.  Maybe to get those pokey out bits?  If that's the case, she should just disregard the unworked stitches, turn her work and continue with the next row.

Hopefully someone else will chime in with an idea.

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2005 09:21:57 PM »

Turn? Hmmm... she's working with circular needles... should she be using dpn's instead?

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005 09:24:13 PM »

She should be using circs!

The pattern says CO 84 sts, and then after the ribbing
Row 1: K5, CO (cast on) 10, K21, CO10, K21, CO10, K21, CO10, K16

5+21+21+21+16 = 84, so she should be at the end of the w/ 84+ 40 NEW cast-on sts on the needles, so 124 total.  How many sts  are on her needles after the 1st row? How many are left over? Is she knitting in the round?

Is she casting on NEW sts? from what the pattern says it looks like she shoud be at the end of the row, and the points form from the new CO sts and then the decreases on the subsequent rows, not from short rows. If you go to the photo, where the little points stick out, their base right above the ribbing are the CO sts. at the end you sew these together to make the bottoms.

I would be intrested to see a photo of what she is doing. I think it would help.

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005 09:35:23 PM »

Ok..... that makes sense except.....should she SKIP OVER the new CO's?Huh
Is that what you are saying?
She just counted, she has 84 stitches done PLUS 36 unworked stitches....
Tina

Sorry, I didn't amswer your question... YES she is knitting in the round...
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005 07:28:50 AM »

she shouldn't have ANY unworked sts. After this round, she should be at the beginning of a new round.
on the sts that she HAS worked, how many are knit, and how many are NEW Cast On sts?

What she should be doing  is:

-Knit 5 sts

-IN BETWEEN the 5th sts and the next (unworked, still on left needle) sts, she should CO 10 sts onto the RIGHT needle using any method (i think knittinghelp.com has a good list of great ways to CO, and great videos for free to view on your computer) and the-  WORKING yarn. One way of doing this is knitting into the just worked 5th sts, puling the new sts out and placing  it on the needle. these are the 10 CO sts. In the round,  this will probably be a bit awkward and tight and she will feel weird then knitting w/ this bunch of new sts. I imagine it wouldfeel like the first st of a cable -- there is a bit of a float inbetween the 5th k  st, the CO10 and then the next knit st. This will even out  in time, I am sure.

-then, she should knit 21 sts, starting with what was the 6th stitch, from the original row, or the next sts on the  left needle.

-after she has knit 21 sts, she should CO 10 MORE sts onto the right needle. she does not knit these sts until the next row.

etc. until the row is done.

I didn't do the math, but i think she is casting on the 10 sts, then going back and knitting them and counting that as part of her k21. (knitting 10 of the just co, the 11 more, then CO 10 again, etc.) She should NOT do this. The CO sts are left on the right needle until the next round.  Have her read furthur in the directions. She ssk, and k2tog are shaping decreases at the points of the new trees.

I hope this helps!
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005 07:54:48 AM »

ACK.
COmpletely disregard me.  I wasn't thinking about it being in the round.  (tho it is possible to do short rows in the round - I do that to make a fuller "seat" in knitted diaper covers)

I need to not offer technical advice when sick and up late.   Undecided 

Have you tried emailing the pattern author for help?

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2005 09:23:22 AM »

erincatherine, yes that is eaxactly what she was doing... co new stitches and then knitting into those new stitches... She has it figured out now... she has never done a "different" pattern like this before... she is used to sweaters, scarves, etc...

Tina

Thanks for all your help everyone!

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005 04:50:47 PM »

phew! i am glad it worked out! I always get so frusturated when something new stops me from knitting a project I am excited about. This is why I love craftster! I have learned SO much from these forums, so I am so happy when I can help others!
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