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bettymundy
« on: October 26, 2005 07:34:09 PM »

Hi,
I'm so excited to be amongst other felters...usually it's just me, the wool, and the hot soapy water..
So with all the combined experience here, maybe someone can help me figure out why the boots I felted for my daughter last week pilled right away, and look truly ghastly, when they were supposed to be adorable?
I did them seamless with a fabric pattern, fulled them (a lot) on her feet, then dyed them. Four layers of Merino top roving.
I'm really bummed, and so are the other kids because I won't make them any til I find out why.
Any ideas?

thanks muchly.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005 06:01:21 AM »

HI bettymundy,  Welcome to Craftster's felting area!  Unfortunately as primairly a needle felter am unable to assist you with the pilling problem.  So perhaps Jane Doe or lynnidings or someone else more experienced in wet felting will have a sound idea.

In the meantime, won't let a little inexperience deter me from comment.  LOL
Have you felted this fiber before without pilling?  Or is this the first go with it? 

In needle felting I find so much variation among fibers, even within a breed. 

Is there anyway you could share a photo- of the fiber and the finished product?  That helps so very much and usually get a more specific answer.

Felt boots sound scrumptious.
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bettymundy
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005 06:52:02 AM »

I appreciate ANY feedback (and I love needlefelting too)
I have felted through two pounds of that ball of wool, the boots used the last of it, and all the hats I did came up fine.
My suspicion is beginning to be over-fulling....but is there such a thing I wonder?
Post a picture of my work? Oh, Ok....if you insist....
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005 07:20:54 AM »


Post a picture of my work? Oh, Ok....if you insist....

Oh yes my dear! a picture is worth a thousand words.  Besides the more we all share the better we all become, at least that is my belief.  Would love to see your hats too! 
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005 07:33:18 AM »

Hi,
I'm so excited to be amongst other felters...usually it's just me, the wool, and the hot soapy water..
So with all the combined experience here, maybe someone can help me figure out why the boots I felted for my daughter last week pilled right away, and look truly ghastly, when they were supposed to be adorable?
I did them seamless with a fabric pattern, fulled them (a lot) on her feet, then dyed them. Four layers of Merino top roving.
I'm really bummed, and so are the other kids because I won't make them any til I find out why.
Any ideas?

thanks muchly.

I was so excited when I found this board too
Seems as though many of us seem to felt behind closed doors all alone.  Cheesy
You can't imagine how long it took me to find information to learn about felting!
Would love to see pics of all your work! Hehe, GraceOblivious is a mad hatter just like you so I know she wants to see your work too  Wink

Now please forgive me, but I'm going to ask a few questions.
If anything is confusing let me know and I'll try explain what I mean.

-What micron did you you use? For foot-wear a strong thick fibre should be used for at least two of the layers. I have a feeling that you may have used high-quality merino that's usually for more delicate work.

-In the felting process that I use, generally there are 6 basic stages.
Lay the fibre, wet the fibre with soapy water, agitate, rinse the piece switching from hot to cold to hot water, slam (or shock) the piece, then shape.
For a really durable item, you'd want to spend quite a while shocking the fibre. This process causes most of the shrinking to occur + makes the fibres much more dense and firm.
I know everyone uses different methods, so in brief could you describe how you wet felt?

-Could you post close up pics of the booties? I'd like to try look at the fibre quality and see if I can try and deduce if any of the above steps needed more work.
 
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2005 10:49:46 AM »

Hurray!! Jane Doe is here.  I knew you would have some ideas.  Awwwwwww, you are the greatest!!!!!

Micron, micron - how do we figure out the micron?  lots of times I don't even know the breed of the fiber available.   Cry
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2005 03:51:32 PM »

*blush* hehe, thanks Grace

And you're right, it's super hard to figure out at a glance the micron or breed of the fibre.
I guess I'm lucky. Every time I've bought fibre, the seller has been able to tell me both the micron + breed.
As a general guide though, the more fine + delicate the wool is, the more silky it feels and visually it's straighter. So if you're making footwear, you're after wool that is still springy (you don't want old wool!) but feels more rough + coarse.

After experince with a lot of wool (and knowing the breed) you do get to know the differences in the breeds. I generally work with corridale + merino so I've learnt the differences between them now.

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bettymundy
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2005 07:01:46 AM »

Gosh! I feel in such good company.
You're right,  I did use high quality merino (I have no idea what micron, I buy it from the New Zealander at the yarn store), and it makes nice soft hats.
I felt in the same way you outlined..I use a washboard for fulling and then rubbed them hard on her feet , and they did come up nice and substantial, but had already pilled before she began wearing them.
Did the merino not love all the shocking? That certainly makes sense.
My hats are at www. weeblossoms.com but brace yourselves, they're cute.
I'll post a pic. of the boots asap and for your combined wisdom etc
I thank you muchly.
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lynnidings
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2005 07:37:49 AM »

Jane Doe and Grace Oblivious have pretty much said it all about the pilling but I'm writing to say that the hats on your website are WAY too cute!
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2005 03:05:16 PM »

... I'm writing to say that the hats on your website are WAY too cute!

Second that thought!!  Was glad to see you make them in adult sizes too.  They look way too fun!  If I got anywhere near one it would be on my head and I'd be dancing, for sure.

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also thanks Jane Doe for the micron and further info.

lynnidings is that a new website in your subscript (I think that is what it is called) - heading there next.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2005 05:13:47 PM »


lynnidings is that a new website in your subscript (I think that is what it is called) - heading there next.

Thanks for pointing it out GraceOblivious

 lynnidings, your site is wonderfully made.
The layout is so fresh + user friendly.
Great to see more resources for felt being made.
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bettymundy
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2005 07:26:47 PM »

Thanks for the compliments on the hats.
lynnidings I went to your website too and it is lovely, so clean and clear and I WISH I had cows across the road like you do. And now I feel all inspired to felt MORE.
Do any of you have fav. places to get wool?
BTW, how do I post a picture on here (not so tech savvy), and how would I make those unpilly boots then?
you guys are GREAT!
thanks
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lynnidings
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2005 02:34:45 AM »

I live in the UK and I order my merino wool and silk tussah from Wingham Wool Work, in Yorkshire www.winghamwoolwork.co.uk. They have a huge selection of stuff and when you order something from them, they pack it in a sack. Coming home after work and finding a sack from them waiting on the doorstep is just the biggest treat. Another place that I sometimes get fibre from is Fibrecrafts www.fibrecrafts.com/fibrecrafts_homepage.htm That's in Surrey closer to my house and I pop in when I happen to be near it, although I think it's a bit more expensive than Wingham.

Thanks for the comments about the site. It's quite new but I have new things that I have to put on it. I just have to get them off the camera and onto the computer. I also have to work on a bit about the history and an introduction to the process of felt making. It was meant to be a site about felt, but I'm such a craft dillettante that I'm including other things that I've made as well.

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2005 05:53:13 AM »

Hi bettymundy,  for photos you can use either Craftster's photohosting spot or you can put your pictures on a site such as PhotoBucket http://photobucket.com/  and copy the IMG addy code from there into your post and viola the picture will show up in the post.

The craftster photo hosting and my computer grumble at each other so I use the free plan on photobucket and that works well with this computer and software  If you have problems pm me and I'll try to help.

speaking of computer grumbling, to see lynnidings site I'm going to have to switch browsers or update flash something on mine..... could not access it.  Boo Hoo.   What happens when one runs a model T in a porscha world.  Grin
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