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« on: October 26, 2005 12:01:10 AM »

hello helpful craftsters!

i'm about to embark on my first top-down sweater, but i can't visualize how to add bust darts. (you may be familiar with my frequent crafty rants about my rack.) it seems like short row darts would point in the wrong direction when worked top-down... can anybody offer advice or an alternate method?

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2005 05:15:27 AM »

do you think that it would work to separate the front from the back, work the short rows, and then join it all back together?  i'm interested in this too (short row bust darts RULE)
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2005 12:30:18 PM »

it wouldn't be necessary to separate the front and back to work short rows. (i've worked circular short rows before with no problems, but always from the bottom up.)

my worry is this: when you work bust shaping short rows from the bottom up, you get a dart exactly like you see when you sew something, or buy a tailored shirt. the darts point up from the side seams towards the points of the bust.

top-down short rows would make darts that point DOWN not up... so what needs to be adjusted?
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2005 12:44:54 PM »

what about starting the short row shaping at the top of the bust line?  (am i right in thinking that you normally start the shortrows nearer the bottom of the bust?)  so instead of adding the extra length up over the bust, it's added down over? 
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2005 05:44:57 PM »

kadreath, i'm going to try that. i am suspicious that it will make a weird, lumpy shape, but i think i have to suck it up and give it a shot! if two of us think it might work, that's pretty good odds in knitting.

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2005 06:55:42 PM »

definetly post if it works cause i'm very interested!

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005 12:21:42 AM »

I ran across this website that talks about doing "short" row shaping for a top down sleeve:

http://www.purlwise.com/2004/02/post_1.html

What she is doing instead of working shorter rows, is increasing the rows as she goes, by adding stitches to the end of each section. This makes sense to me, because in short row shaping you work progressively fewer stitches at each round or row. To reverse it (approach from top-down) you would need to increase by working progressively more stitches at each round or row.

I think once you have added the extra width, you could dcrease stitches back down if you wanted. I hope this helps!
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2005 01:26:16 PM »

lucylost, that is exactly what i did. thanks for the link! i used my knitter's handbook to figure out progressively longer short-rows for top-down shaping.

the only catch is that you really have to figure out how to pick up the wraps from previous turns on both the right and wrong side in a way that will match. (with decreasing short rows, i have tended to kind of fudge things.)
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