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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2005 07:54:53 PM »

As usual, Jane Doe, is right on target.  Oooh, wish I had your good sense and clarity. 

For those who might like to see wet felting in action take a look at  Carol Marston's online slide show
http://www.hatshapers.com/   scroll  down to the botton of the page and enjoy.

Also, don't overlook your local  library;  check out local fiber groups- there are more than one might think.

Like Jane said, there are many ways, so check out a variety and choose one that suits you.

Best wishes on a fun adventure.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2005 10:10:11 PM »

sorry, but it's late here... Chile, i don't want to write in english...  Embarrassed

Yo aca hace alrededor  de 2 meses descubri el fieltro (felt) empece a investigar, cuando ya entendi la tecnica trate de hacer fieltro, pero no me resulto...  Cry, me consegui lana de oveja, no peinada como la que ustedes usan... y en verdad no se si puedo o no usarla finalmente para fieltro o mejor me dedico a las bolitas de fieltro... Huh

 i really hope someone can understand spanish.... Tongue

Verito

tomorrow i can post my pictures...

bye and good night  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2005 07:26:18 AM »

Hola Verito, que tal

 Embarrassed sorry to say that is about the extent of my Spanish except for  - respire profundo y tosa (I was a hospital nurse at one point in my life)

hopefully someone is more Spanish literate than I and can help you.

Welcome!
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2005 08:03:38 AM »

thank you Grace....

respire profundo y tosa esta bien... it's ok...

well...like 1 month ago i try to make felt, like you show here (mongolian technique or something..) but i can't... i thought was because my yarn it's very natural and it is not "brushed" (carded?) so... i push strongly my mat but i never make felt, i have very much holes... a lot!  Undecided

here are my pictures http://espanol.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/veconsta/slideshow2?.dir=/c406&.beg=0&.src=ph

that's it...  Cry i don't know wath to do... yesterday i saw a brush, like dog brush... and maybe i can do something like that...

i hope you can help me... i am little bit obsesed whit felt...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Verito
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2005 05:52:46 AM »

Hola Verito, 

You are not alone, Meg had a similar problem http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=42672.0

You will get a better answer when Jane Doe is able to get back here - she is more experienced in wet felting.

Meanwhile, I am wondering if your fiber felted too fast.  Perhaps laying it out in thinner pieces (tufts), work it a bit, turn it,  work it some more.  Work gently.  Use less pressure, less force in the rolling. 

Combing it with the dog brush may help you get a smoother lay out of fiber too.  Good idea.  You would still want to break the long strands into tufts and overlap and add another layer crosswise as Jane shows. The ovelap and multiple thin cross layers help the fibers grab each other evenly.

If your fiber is very raw (not much processed) is it clean? free of dirt and lanolin?  It has color so it looks as though it was washed and dyed.  So this is probably not the problem.

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Grace
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005 03:46:21 PM »

I've been told in the past that I shouldn't cut felt for the reason that it gives a very hard edge, but I have anyway - being relatively new to felting, I'm trying lots of things - and I've found that if I want to make a cut, I should do it before it's really felted. Then I continue felting it and the edges seem to round themselves off OK. It's not for felt purists I guess. Also, I cut felt when making felt cut outs from pre felt and they seem to felt into bigger felt pieces fine.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2005 04:54:24 PM »

thank you Grace....

respire profundo y tosa esta bien... it's ok...

well...like 1 month ago i try to make felt, like you show here (mongolian technique or something..) but i can't... i thought was because my yarn it's very natural and it is not "brushed" (carded?) so... i push strongly my mat but i never make felt, i have very much holes... a lot!  Undecided

here are my pictures http://espanol.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/veconsta/slideshow2?.dir=/c406&.beg=0&.src=ph

that's it...  Cry i don't know wath to do... yesterday i saw a brush, like dog brush... and maybe i can do something like that...

i hope you can help me... i am little bit obsesed whit felt...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Verito


Hi Verito,

Do you have any pics of the wool you used for felting with? From your pics + description it's a little hard to figure out what went wrong with your felt, but I have a strong feeling it has to do with your wool.

Just to clarify, did it look like either of these?


You described what you used as yarn that's very natural and it is not "brushed" (carded?) With what you had, were you able to lay the fibres out flat like this?



I'll wait for your answers to these + grace's questions till I can say for sure what went wrong. We will get to the bottom of this!  Cheesy

Hola Verito, 

You are not alone, Meg had a similar problem http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=42672.0

I thing what happened to Meg's work is that the washing machine was simply to harsh and violent on her little needle-felted creatures.  I've tried using the washing machine to felt my dreads and even they semi-destroyed in the machine.
The only luck I've had with using the washing machine, is by tying the felt into the package as in the tutorial (obviously smaller that the tutorial) and putting it into the machine, and checking + turning every few minutes or so. Although it takes less strain on your hands, the felt isn't as delicate or even.

What I've done with little needle-felted items like megs, is to put a pot of boiling water on the stove, put a wire mesh ontop, and set my item in the steam.
I'm only just learning needle-felting, but steaming worked for me!
Can't share the items I made just yet, as they're for a swap
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Verrito
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2005 01:50:46 PM »

thank you Jane...

ok, my wool was this... http://espanol.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/veconsta/detail?.dir=/c406&.dnm=b6f3.jpg&.src=ph

it's not like your picture with yellow fibres, and I just can make felt balls...  Undecided  Undecided, I really want to learn to make felt, with a wet processes or dry.

When I try 1 month ago, i take the wool and i stretch them...
"With what you had, were you able to lay the fibres out flat like this?"...no, i try but wasn't like that, i used 6 layers...  Embarrassed  Embarrassed

ok, I wait for your comments...

thank you again...

Verito
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CraftyZary
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2005 09:17:14 AM »

Hi Verrito,

Veo que tu foto muestra lana pura no tratada y creo saber cual es el problema y es el mismo del que tu sospechas:

it seems to me that the problem is that the wool is not carded. The one I get is carded and comes in very long and soft fibers (I use mostly alpine wool and merino wool) and I can lay them with no problem. The one from your pic looks similar to the green one from this page (under the Shetland Fibers description):

http://www.texere.co.uk/cgi-bin/SHPLoader.cgi?yarns.php?category=16&subcategory=1

And on the description for that kind of wook, it says: 'comb this fibers to make colorful, rich felt'. So I think that the problem with the wool you have could be on the not-combed factor.

But don't give up! I get sometimes some alpine wool that is a little rougher than the normal and I can not wet-felt it correctly, but I can needle-felt it easy, so for sure you can do something with the wool. Or is there a way in which you can comb it by yourself? I have never done it, but maybe that could work?
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Verrito
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2005 01:44:59 PM »

Thank you CraftyZary, I will try with the dog brush, maybe works...  Grin Grin, i hope...

And... i don't know if I can needle-felt it, because here in chile i never see the tools, can i do that with other things??  Undecided Huh

thak you all...  Kiss  Kiss

Verrito
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