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killerdaisy
« on: April 28, 2004 08:57:53 PM »

i really want to make this:

http://www.knitting-and.com/knitting/patterns/hats/london-beanie.htm

but do not have (and cannot find locally*) circs with a cord short enough.

i have size 7dpns, but have never used dpns before.

should i give it a go or search out the circs?


*(the hat is a gift and needs to be done by may 7th - i dont think online ordered needles would arrive with enough time for me to finish the project, so its dpn's or no gift)
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klutz 91
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2004 10:35:59 PM »

Hey killerdaisy.........

My first project ever was done on dpn's because I just had to have a beanie with cables, and couldn't find one in the stores I liked.  It's a little weird at first, just like anything else.  But I was able to do it, and trust me...that means anyone can do it.  

*Hey, where did my willingess to try new things go?  Has anyone seen it?  Scarves are getting boring............*
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jpants
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2004 05:52:53 AM »

The only bad thing I can think of using dpns is that it might take longer than using a circular needle.  but since you will have to switch to dpns eventually, at the top, you should go for it!  
the only tricky thing that I find about dpns is remembering to bring in the new needle every time i get to the end of a row of stitches, meaning sometimes i'll start with 3 needles with stitches on them and end up with only 2.  this is easily fixed, but can mess you up if you are at a decrease point and your pattern is based on the number of needles you have.
I hope that doesn't confuse you.  just know that if you end up with one less needle than you are supposed to have, that is what happened.
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gloriana
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2004 07:12:14 AM »

it's definitely weird at first, but gets kind of fun after a while.  plus being able to knit with them makes you much more versatile, and you'll be able to do all kinds o' cool stuff.  I'd caution you about the "gutter" that sometimes develops between needles when you're using DPNs - remember to pull the yarn tight when you're starting on a new needle.  
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knittykat
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2004 08:02:35 AM »

Yes, definitely go for it.  I think a lot of people don't like them but there are plenty of us who do.  

My biggest advice is use some crappy yarn and your pattern and just practice using them before using your nice yarn.  Even if you just knit a tube, you will get practice using the needles.  After the first 2 rows I was like "I will NEVER get this" but stick it out for at least an inch before you give up, by that time it is much easier and the needles aren't flopping around on you.

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io
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2004 08:05:52 AM »

try dpns, it's exactly the same principle as circs, there are just more of them.
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killerdaisy
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2004 01:29:31 PM »

ugghhh...

well i tried the dpns last night.

it made me want to quit knitting, it was so frustrating. i got two conflicting sets of instructions, one from stitch n bitch, one from a (generally excellent) knitting website. i tried both ways and both ways i had twisted stitches and needles everywhere!

maybe i'll knit them a nice easy scarf instead Sad

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2004 01:39:48 PM »

what if you used one of your longer circs and used the magic loop method? (theres a website explaining it here)

hehe, i feel a bit like a zealot - this must be the third time i've recommended this method since discovering it a month ago.
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Lilyvanilli
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2004 04:06:24 PM »

Whenever I make hats I use the pattern from I Can't Believe I'm Knitting. It uses 2 sizes of straight needles and the hats are super cute! Here's the pattern:

With size 5 straight needles (long ones, not short ones) cast on (CO) 102 sts

Work 7 rows in K1,P1 rib

Switch to size 7 straight needles (again long ones) and work 30 rows in stockinette stitch (I seem to always start and end with a purl row)

Row #31: K14, slip 1 as if to knit, K2tog (knit 2 together), PSSO (pass slipped stitch over), place marker; repeat this until you finish the row

Row #32: P across slipping markers as you come to them

Row #33: K to within 3 sts of marker, slip 1 as if to knit, K2tog, PSSO, slip marker; repeat this until you finish the row

Row #34: P across slipping markers as you come to them

Repeat rows 33 and 34 until you have 6 sts left on your needle. Cut yarn leaving a long tail (maybe 20 inches) and thread yarn needle. Pass yarn needle through sts on straight needle and pull straight needle out. Tug firmly to close and then sew up the seam.

Unless the person has a very large head this should fit perfectly. I've only had to vary from this pattern once when a big headed person wanted a hat and I just CO 108 sts instead of 102. Good luck! Smiley

P.S. Here's a pic so you can see what this hat comes out looking like:

http://suicidegirls.com/media/members/9/70/32709/11047/134266.jpg
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2004 10:19:30 AM »

I've actually made one of these and I absolutely love it.  I used both circulars and dpn's.  Circulars are much easier and faster but sadly I think you will need to use DPN's because at the end it gets really small(i mean really small!!) and you kinda have to use dpn's.  THey're not as hard as they seem.  Give it a try...it will be worth it.
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knittykat
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2004 11:00:36 AM »

2 things:  if you are making a hat on circs and then SWITCH to DPNs later, then you will have more success because of the extra work hanging down, you won't be twisting stitches and stuff.

Or, if this has left a sour taste in your mouth, then you can make a hat without circs OR dpns!  Check out Hip To Knit by Judith Schwartz.  The Fat Hats are so cute and easy and each only took me one evening.  The yarn they call for is pretty pricy, so I used Lion Brand Wool Ease Thick & Quick.  It uses EXACTLY one ball so you might buy 2 for insurance...I've had to make the tassels different colors before (different than the hat, I mean) because I ran out of yarn.  You can do either of the hat patterns:  they are pretty much the same with differences in the finishing.
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