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« on: August 23, 2005 09:13:48 AM »

When I started this folder I meant for it to be filled with things that you could craft with that were free or cheap and that would otherwise be thrown away and go fill up a landfill somewhere.

Some people have listed some companies here and in other parts of Craftster who send out free samples.  This is not what I intended but it's OK for people to list them AS LONG AS THE SAMPLES ARE INTENDED FOR CRAFTERS.

If a company provides free samples of leather meant for people in the shoe-making industry and someone lists that website in Craftster and hundreds of people pretend to be shoe-makers just to get samples... That is NOT OK.

It's easy to think of businesses of cold anonymous entities with endless supplies of money to burn but many times that's not the case! Please be sensitive to this!

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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2005 01:56:52 PM »

I agree. I felt kinda bad when I ordered some stuff, but I actually might end up buying some fabric and my mom will probably end up wanting to order from XX for her business
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2005 02:17:31 PM »

Yeah, I when the Free Site Stuff List started I was like, "Yay! Free Stuff! W00+ and |-|00+!" but it's gotten to a point, now, where so many people are taking advantage of these offers that it's a major hindrance to the companies involved. I've learned about a lot of neat sites that I may actually buy something from, in the future, but I know that a lot of people are just sending out for anything they can get for free without considering whether or not they'll ever want to purchase the product Undecided.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005 02:05:55 PM »

   I agree as well.  I admit I jumped happily onto the magnetic paper, and if it came out in stores I'd defenitely buy it!  But, to be honest, I was drooling over getting that tin for free....oops.  I do the free sample thing as well, but usually it's to try a product, take a product with me per travel, or to put into a basket of goodies for someone I think would like that product themselves.  Yeah, though, it's easy to see....Free!...and think, I love that price.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005 02:31:00 PM »

It's been my experience, that free is not really free.  When you send away for something, you usually have to provide personal information.  And, you do not know what they are going to use that information for.  So unless it's a hand-out at a show, or something like that,  I'll pass it up.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2005 02:50:18 PM »

It's been my experience, that free is not really free.  When you send away for something, you usually have to provide personal information.  And, you do not know what they are going to use that information for.  So unless it's a hand-out at a show, or something like that,  I'll pass it up.

That's a great point!  I just wish it wasn't true... Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005 12:45:03 PM »

yeah once people started posting about wood floor tiles i was like 'whoa now thats a little too far' but magnetic paper, you just HAVE to get a sample of that.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005 12:51:21 PM »

Having worked in many companies that give away things to potential customers, please understand that they already know that only a small fraction if any of the freebies that they give will bring sales.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005 04:45:10 AM »

heh i signed up for the floor. to see if it would look okay in my house. after i got it however. it became the bathroom floor in my niceces dollhouse..
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005 07:50:00 AM »

yeah once people started posting about wood floor tiles i was like 'whoa now thats a little too far' but magnetic paper, you just HAVE to get a sample of that.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2005 07:59:03 AM »

OK. So ordering free craft supplies makes a lot of sense to me. And I'd venture to say that the craft supply companies mean for people like us to order to them.

But when you get into ordering non-craft-supplies just for the purpose of crafting with them...

I can totally see why this is tempting!  We all love the challenge of making things out of things that aren't meant to be straight up craft supplies!  But I have two moral qualms with this:

1. The company means for these samples (which cost them money) to go to people who may buy the product eventually.

2. Re-using random things in crafty ways is awesome but I personally like it when I've saved something that's already been manufactured from being just thrown into a landfill. A company who gives away free floor sample is manufacturing them anew just to give them out as samples. Sort of defeats the purpose of re-using them in a crafty way.

I know this all sounds really preachy!  And I'm sorry about having to voice this opinion!  But since Craftster's so huge I feel like when the word gets out about a free sample, so many people may jump in to get one that it can really hurt the company.  So I just don't want to let these sentiments go unsaid.

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2005 06:52:22 PM »

I've gotten a lot of free samples, and admittedly there are some companies I will never go back to buy from, but only because the samples of the products I was interested in were not up to whatever standards I had.  There are other companies I order samples from mainly out of curiousity, and I think that is fine - companies send out samples for curious possible consumers.  But I also feel that good judgment is necessary, and when it gets to the point that people begin to take advantage of the samples, then I see a problem. 

Getting free samples does not violate any of my ethics, a company can choose whether or not to honor an offer.  Nobody forces them to send the samples.  If they can't send anymore for whatever reason, like choosing not to, or running out of sample surplus, then that's that.  In fact, I think good judgment is necessary for both consumer as WELL as seller; if the seller is a small company, or just a company concerned with how their samples are being appropriated, they ought to have stricter guidelines for sample requests and samples. 

For consumers, it's pretty obvious when the company really doesn't care too much about who the samples go to, because their product serves such a large audience.  My point is that you have a right to order samples as much as companies have a right to offer or refuse them.  While it may be less than honest to have certain intentions in mind when ordering from companies, this has little to do with the business.  I could say you ought not do this or that, but in the end your ethics are up to you.  No one can prescribe a certain set of morals for the general populus.

So I say, use discretion when ordering samples.  Some of us will, and some won't.  The only thing we can do aside from that is use discretion when posting sites.

-t

BTW, I have ordered from a couple rug and blind companies, which may sound ridiculous, but some of these companies have amazing and unique fabrics which I would much rather order and use than any old fabric I could get at your local craft store.  I guess ordering blind samples is weird, but don't forget, sometimes these places also sell interesting fabrics one can use for various crafts, whether they are for home renovation, redecorating, or just little crafts.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005 10:02:06 AM »

I ordered the magnetic paper sample, and I actually plan to use Magnecote when they come out with the home innkjet version. It will be an easy (and relatively cheap) way to print off promo stuff for my business when I ship out orders. Unfortunately, the reps from Magnecote keep calling me, and it's getting really irritating. It's actually starting to turn me off from the company because they are so pushy. But, they have probably had such an influx of free sample requests, that they are hunting people down to make sure people are actually interested in buying their paper.  Undecided
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005 09:04:44 PM »

I have to say I agree that ordering all the free samples out there is a bit much, but you never know when someone will be interested in something.  Such as the floor samples - yes, I ordered some.  I've been struggling with asthma and allergies and now CFS for some time.  I replaced some carpet with the laminate flooring and am considering replacing the rest....had I not seen the information on here I would have not considered hardwood floors.

I think we just have to decide for ourselves and hey, if anyone has free samples they won't use - offer to swap with someone else that would like to use the sample.

Also have to say I LOVE the distinctive fabrics website, have already ordered fabric and the customer service has been wonderful!
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2005 04:55:45 AM »

i agree on the distinticive fabrics site.. their stuff rocks my socks off!

(i have a 200$ order of nothin-but-fur comin in.. i cant wait)
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2005 09:24:23 AM »

well i think that they wouldn't offer free samples if they couldn't afford it, so why not?
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2005 12:59:19 PM »

I got some samples today and have in the past from a friend and from my sister. If you know people that work in places that offer samples, sometimes they have discontinued colors/patterns of textiles or other materials. Those discontinued color samples usually get thrown out. If you know architects, interior designers, or people that work for furniture stores (those are the ones that have hooked me up!) ask and you will see that a lot of stuff just gets thrown out. And we all know we can make stuff with it so why waste it?!
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2005 09:17:22 PM »

I ordered the free Disco yarn..and was a tad greedy. My sister 'recieved' it too. But I knit & crochet and felt justified in getting 2 because I really appreciate getting to preview new yarns before I buy them. I do not scrap-book or sew, so I wouldnt try to get any of those freebies. I didnt care for the color of the free yarn(s) but I didnt waste it..I got all Craftster-like and swapped it with another member for something in a color I did like. So I do believe in recieving crafty freebies...but only if you plan to use them! And if you cant use it, or dont like it, dont get it just because it says Free! But if you must get it, at least craft it into something useful or give it to someone who can.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2005 11:01:24 PM »

I've bought 5 balls of the Bernat Disco yarn now.. it's $7 a ball here.. so I was pretty DAMN HAPPY to see I could get a free one lol
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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2006 06:39:46 PM »

One of my fave places for free crafting stuff is wallpaper stores....just go in and ask if they have any discontinued sample books (some are HUGE) that you could take off their hands...last time I went, they led me to a room the size of 6 walk-in closets FULL of discontinued books, and the samples are flat, textured, grass, fabric, solids, patterns, and in some of them each full-size sample comes with samples of all the coordinating papers, too. Those things rock my world.

I've used them for everything from book pages to frame matting, to turning them into those gift bags with the little loop handles (VERY easy to create a pattern for them.)

I'm sure fabric stores probably have sample books too.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2006 06:54:51 PM »

I agree.  I got a couple of paper samples and then felt really guilty for doing it. 
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2006 10:04:57 AM »

i think that if you plan on buying some later its ok    ..... and I was sad that the free yarn offer expired. Sad
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2006 05:14:30 AM »

I post, I ordered and I hoard.. then I felt guilty..  Undecided

However, I must say, I haven't ordered any free samples in about a year. I actually went through withdrawl! Lips sealed

Thanks for the slap on the wrist... I know the shoe leather thing was a bit much... but I've made great gifts. I tried to purchase at 1st time as a crafter but she sent me 4 boxes free!  Shocked It was hard not to go back. I got a little excited. Sorry..Sad I will do better. I promise!
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2006 01:10:03 PM »

my goodness, people can be sick...i mean do they want all craft goods businesses to go under or what? if you have to lie to get what you want, then maybe you should consider finding another way to get it, such as getting another job or starting your own business for extra money. then of course, you may just see what it feels like to be mooched off of when YOU offer samples to prospective customers who are actually dishonest crafters.
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2006 05:00:40 AM »

my goodness, people can be sick...i mean do they want all craft goods businesses to go under or what? if you have to lie to get what you want, then maybe you should consider finding another way to get it, such as getting another job or starting your own business for extra money. then of course, you may just see what it feels like to be mooched off of when YOU offer samples to prospective customers who are actually dishonest crafters.

Oh please - get off the high horse.   I am sure you never took a paperclip or made personal copies at work.    Lets get real now. How about that brach's candy in the supermarket.... Had one too many grapes recently.. just to "test" them?

The greater good is now people are convicted to not do it anymore. I applaud anyone who's been there, done that, grew up from it and moved on.  Like I said, again, thanks Leah for putting it out there. That took courage as well.
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