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« on: April 16, 2004 12:01:37 PM »

Ok, so there's this nifty set on the adriafil site (bottom right corner, it's called 'Sunny') with these little laddered motifs in the pattern.  

The pattern is in English, but the key to the chart is in (I'm guessing) highly abbreviated Italian.  There are 4 special symbols (which I've replaced with 'o') with the following 'explanations'
o = 1 gett.
o = 2 m. ins. a dir.
o = 1 m. lasciata cadere
o = m. ras. dir.

Can anyone translate?
Does anyone know how to make little patches with controlled ladders (runs) that don't take over the whole sweater?
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emling
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2004 12:37:46 PM »

This is very incomplete, but my guess is that 'm' stands for 'maglia' or 'stitch'.  I think

o = 2 m. ins. a dir.

Is knit two togther (2 maglia insieme), but I don't know what 'a dir.' means.  It could mean 'knitwise--or through the front loops'--because I think 'punto diritto' is 'knit stitch' in Italian.

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o = 1 m. lasciata cadere

Is 'drop one stitch'

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2004 12:54:33 PM »

There are links to knitting traslation sites at the bottom of this page -- there are three or four in italian:

http://naughtyteaspoon.20m.com/reference.html

I didn't get very far in looking through them:

gett=yarn over


this one is good:

http://www.daisysas.com/spaziohobby/HobbyCreativi/ConsigliETrucchi/DizionarioAbbreviazioni.htm


Good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2004 01:14:27 PM »

Thanks for the quick replies!
So now I have
o = 1 gett. -> gettare el filo = yarn over
o = 2 m. ins. a dir. -> due maglie insieme a diritto = k2tog
o = 1 m. lasciata cadere -> drop a stitch
o = m. ras. dir. ->  this one probably means to do the normal stitch for the row.  
but this is funny - the "good" site above lists it as follows:
english italian  it. abbr
row      ferro    m. ras.

explanation:
Si intende non il ferro come  utensile, ma il ferro di maglie lavorato

so I put the explanation through babelfish to get the following translation:
One agrees not the iron like tool, but the iron of meshes worked
somehow I thing something was lost...  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2004 01:39:06 PM »

That's too funny about the ferro/m ras/row definitions.

That's a cool set, by the way.  I love unravelly bits...hope it works out!
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2004 08:22:01 PM »

Does anyone know how to make little patches with controlled ladders (runs) that don't take over the whole sweater?

from the picture, i think what is happening is this:

the stitches are being replaced by yarn overs, which are not being knitted in the next row.

when you want to "finish" the shape, as it were, start increasing stitches and decreasing the number of yarn overs (still not knitting them).

so for those triangle shapes you might do something like
1st row of shape: k to where you want the shape, dec 1, yo, continue in pattern
2nd row: yo, yo, dec 1
3rd row: dec 1, yo, yo, yo
4th row: yo, yo, yo, yo, dec 1

get what i mean?
and then when you want to start making the shape smaller
row 1: inc 1, 1 fewer yo than row before
row 2: 1 fewer yo again, inc 1
etc.

it's a lovely idea for a motif that i've not seen before. good luck!
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