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skittermagoo
« on: April 16, 2004 06:16:51 AM »

Hey y'all . . . I have a question concerning gauge:

I am getting ready to make my first sweater, and the gauge in the pattern is 13stitches/20 rows = 4 inches w/10.5(us) needle.

So, with US10.5 needles, I made my swatch and it came out 3.75" x 3.75".  Argh.  So I switched to size US11, and it came out 4.25 x 5.25!  So, on stitches anyway, I am 1/4" off either way.  Grrr.   I need a size 10.75 needle (which doesn't exist!)!

So, here's what I'm thinking:  Should I use the 10.5 needles and make the sweater a bit bigger to allow for the 1" reduction in circumference, or should I use the bigger needles and make it one size smaller?  I'm thinking the first scenario since the swatch came out closer to gauge overall.  Plus, the pattern is for an oversized sweater to begin with.

I should note that I haven't *washed* my gauge swatches yet; I'm planning on doing that, but wanted to get a little advice in case it makes no difference after the swatches are washed.  

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2004 06:27:48 AM »

Hey Skitter!

It really depends on the yarn. You can either make a sweater with the bigger needles if you want it to go looser and faster or the smaller needles and add in an inch or two if you want tighter fabric. This stuff happens to me all the time -- I usually go by the drape of the fabric and how fast I want to get something done. Also, I usually make a gauge swatch that's bigger than 4x4 so I'm not counting the ugly stitches on the edge...
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2004 06:42:17 AM »

Thanks, Czarina!  I had a feeling I was sort of on the right track . . . now I just have to decide which swatch feels better!

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Also, I usually make a gauge swatch that's bigger than 4x4 so I'm not counting the ugly stitches on the edge...

This I did -- I added a border of garter stitch a couple of rows on each side so that it would lay flat for me.  

So I guess this weekend I will be swatch-washing to see if that has an effect . . . I'm not in a huge hurry to get started on this thing, since it is a winter sweater (and it's in the 80s here already).

Again, thanks!

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2004 08:03:58 AM »

Ah, I see a knew T-Shirt for knitters:

"Swatch-Washer"
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2004 08:16:16 AM »

actually a 10 3/4 needles *does* exist - I own one!  mine's made by crystal palace needles (it's bamboo).  it might be what you need.  
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2004 08:25:14 AM »

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actually a 10 3/4 needles *does* exist - I own one!  mine's made by crystal palace needles (it's bamboo).  it might be what you need.  

REEally?  Oh, yes!  Is it a circular?  Can I buy it online?  

Ohhhhhh . . . . thank you!!



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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2004 09:11:56 AM »

All my answers to gauges problems usually lie in math.  I usually use ratios to play with the gauge and change the number of stitches in the pattern and since you seem to not be able to fix the problem using different needles...this may be the way to go.  If you don't know how to fiddle with ratios than my suggestion really doesn't help but if you do...find the ratio between the two gauges and change the stitches in the pattern to fit that same ratio (new # stitches: old # stitches).  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2004 11:57:57 AM »

thanks to everyone who posted help here!  My gauge rage has been quelled . . . I got bullied into buying a set of Addi Turbos yesterday at a new shop (that's another story), but it turns out that they did just the trick!  I don't know why it made such a difference, but the Denise needles resulted in a noticably smaller swatch, but the Addi Turbo swatch turned out just perfect.

So now I'm not so mad about being bullied into them.  Smiley

But I am still miffed that there is such a huge jump in mm sizes between US10.5 and US11 . . . can we please all switch to the metric system already?  And I mean in ALL avenues of life!

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