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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2006 10:13:17 PM »

Well, I can understand the problem if children who are not at home when they view the internet.  My brutal honest opinion is that good parents don't raise children who simply avoid their rules by running off to another location to do the things their parents won't let them do.  If their kids go off to the library to circumvent their rules, then they've still failed somewhere along the lines, and they only have themselves to blame.  Again I say it is not Craftster's job to follow up where the parents have failed. 

I'm not completely against an area of the site that organizes adult-themed projects, but what determines the projects that would go there concerns me, except that I trust Leah's judgement.  Still, this site is not a site designed for use by children.  Children aren't unwelcome, but it is not a child's site, and like any other forum on the web which doesn't turn children away but isn't specifically designed with them in mind, it might contain things which aren't suitable for those kids, be it knitted boobs, language or other subject matter.  And unless there is a push to make this a specifically child-friendly site, I don't see why that should change. 

Even in reorganizing those projects one still runs the risk of kids seeing pictures of knitted  genetalia, through the "most recent" links and such.  Perhaps if those posting adult crafts were simply asked to use links to pictures in their posts rather than posting the pictures themselves it would help with a lot of the drama, as it has been called.  Then, if a thread is clearly marked as having questionable material, and pictures are only available by intentionally looking at them, no one could honestly claim that their child was innocent and accidentally exposed.  This doesn't help the matter of head-strong high school students intentionally waiting until they head to the library to look up instructions on how to knit a boob.  (I could question why a high-school student isn't old enough to see instructions on knitted boobs, since high-school students are old enough to lose a boob to breast cancer, but that isn't really important.  I understand that I'm fairly liberal in what I consider appropriate, having already shown my three year old a picture of Michelangelo's David and watched her walk around with my bra on shouting "boobies".  As far as I'm concerned there is nothing shameful about the human body.)  But it would keep unsuspecting (and actually young and impressionable) children from accidentally viewing pictures their parents think them too young to see.

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Also, I was just thinking, when people were mentioning that it was difficult to search for crafts with an adult theme, that if all threads with adult content (in the eyes of the person posting the thread or a moderator on that particular board) actually put the word "ADULT" or "MATURE" in the thread title, then all you'd need to search for would be that one word and you'd come up with all the adult-themed crafts you want, provided some convention was agreed upon and enforced.  I know our moderators work very hard, but I also know they're good at what they do, and in reality the number of crafts that are really adult in nature are very few, so I have no doubt that with we Craftsters' help, the mods would have no trouble keeping everything labled to protect the innocent and to make searching for all the knitted, sewn, embroidered or otherwise crafted raunchiness easy and fun.
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2006 01:34:46 PM »

I like the idea of having a "mature audiences" area, but password protection and age verification are just silly. My 12 year old knows how to bypass those types of things, and i can bet that most kids her age also know.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2006 12:58:38 PM »

I think that it would be a bit silly to have a separate board.  Maybe, instead, we could have all "adult' themed projects have the words "mature" or "adult" in them.  I personally do not have any problems with this kind of expression (hey, if that's where your muses take you, I'm down with that!), but I would not want anyone to be offended unnecessarily.
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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2006 01:48:40 PM »

it would be nice to have this cause then it would be easier to find stuff....as for thie kids thing....don't most internet providers provide "parental controls"  that regulate what content is allowed?
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2006 08:59:39 PM »

Yes, there are parental controls...but if there is any reference of adult content on a page (including expletive-type screen names, I believe)  It will keep someone from viewing the entire board and you cannot get to any of the threads...not just the one with the adult content.  So, in my humble opinion, there is something to be said for having a separate board.   Cool

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2006 06:23:39 AM »

I think it all depends on the users. It won't really matter if you create a seperate board in my opinion. People will still venture there. I'm 14, and (believe me, I've seen my fair share of genitalia) I think these projects are quite cute, especially the female inspired ones!
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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2006 09:13:38 AM »

 Roll Eyes  Smiley Okay, I'm really not talking about those who are searching the stuff out, like yourselves.  It's simply that there are those of us who don't wish to see it, and will stop referring the site to their friends because of them possibly being offended by something they don't wish to see or hear in the first place...that's all.  I'd just like to have a seperate board so you can know that 'this is where the adult content is'  instead of tripping on it through the threads.

It's the same as the video stores that have a seperate XXX room...it's seperate for those who don't wish to see that stuff...any consenting adult  wishing to see it is perfectly welcome to go there.

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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2006 01:05:19 PM »

 
Even in reorganizing those projects one still runs the risk of kids seeing pictures of knitted  genetalia, through the "most recent" links and such.  Perhaps if those posting adult crafts were simply asked to use links to pictures in their posts rather than posting the pictures themselves it would help with a lot of the drama, as it has been called.  

 

This is a very good point. The threads would still have to have the words "MATURE" or "ADULT" in the titles, so people who are inclined to do so can avoid them. Also, it would eb a good idea to have a link you have to click to see the images. I have nothing against adult threads---some of them are hysterically funny---but all that is really needed, in my opinion, is just some sort of warning in the title--not a whole new forum.

In my case, I would want to wait to open that thread till my six-year-old is out of the room, so he doesn't get an eyeful of something I'm not ready for him to see.
 
   
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2006 11:31:26 PM »

I too support the addition of a separate 'adult' board.  I understand that this forum is not meant for kids, but I also browse the 'recent posts with pictures' button...I stumbled upon the porn skirt recently, and saw the pics before the headlines.

I agree that a password protect is unnessesary, but a separate thread (for rated R images, words (like the 'fu__ you' samplers recently swapped, adult toys and projects with genitalia images) would be good.  Those who enjoy those novelties can amuse each other, while the rest of us get entertained by ninja turtles sun dresses and other more everyday stuff. 
I think the best way is to ask each member not to list anything on the regular boards that is more than PG-13.  Make a bra? post it.  Make pasties? put it on the adult board.

My idea is, that, when you click to enter the adult board, there was simply a pop-up that read "CAUTION, mature content in this board, view at your own descretion, adult topics and images" and they had to click a link that they accept that content.   Basically, it would be a 'are you sure?' step, instead of just throwing everything together.

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« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2007 11:43:30 AM »

I almost hate to bump this topic because it seemed to cause some controversy; however, I feel like I have to. And here's why:

Today I wanted to start a discussion about something I want to make, but for the first time, I really second-guessed myself about whether it would be "appropriate" for Craftster, and I started looking online for a Craftster-like forum that was more adult-oriented. As you can imagine, the experience was disappointing (to say the least -- and I didn't even look hard).

I love the open spirit of Craftster. Absolutely love it. I want more than anything to discuss ways in which to make my vinyl kimono into a BDSM kimono for an erotica ball I'll be attending in two weeks. I even started writing the post. But I can't bring myself to post it because -- while I have no doubt that there are people here who would contribute FANTASTIC ideas, and the conversation would be as lively as ever -- posting on a general board feels like having the conversation in an open cafe without at least lowering my voice a little.

So, I'm wondering, was there an official decision ever on this? It doesn't appear it's been accepted, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's been refused either. Is it under consideration at all? Obviously any method of age-verification would not be 100%, but I don't think that's the point. Not for me anyway -- I'm not about "protecting the children" as much as I am about having one place where I can NOT censor my own self. Whomever else is there is THEIR problem. You know?

Love to know where this is in the scheme of considerations.
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