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« on: August 04, 2005 02:13:14 PM »

I've seen many adult-themed craft projects on this board, and I think it would be a good idea to have a separate area specifically for projects like these. I'm sure there are people on Craftster that might be offended by these projects, and what about the younger crafters who browse this site? Usually it's easy to avoid these topics because they are clearly titled, but I've run into a few accidentally because the title was not clear, or I simply clicked the "next" button at the bottom of a separate topic. I understand that these projects are not meant to be pornographic; they are valid artwork or otherwise simply for fun. I still feel it would be best to place these projects into a separate category, so that those who do not wish to be exposed to such things can avoid them. Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2005 02:16:03 PM »

thats a good idea. i'm not one to be offended (i'm more likely amused by it), but it would be nice for others looking to avoid those types of things.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2005 06:51:35 AM »

Yah, an Adult board would we great. Help out parents who want to keep there kids 'safe', help out those kids who have programs like NetNanny that block any site with certain words, and help those of us who are looking for adult crafts.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2005 01:37:43 AM »

i agree - i think an adult board would be good! sometimes i search specifically for "adult" themes\crafts and have to search thru tons of different threads, so a special board would be helpful,,,, plus, we wouldn't have to worry about getting threads spammed with people commenting on the "inappropriateness" of it
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2005 02:51:33 PM »

I know there is no way to really see how old a crafter is, but it would be a good idea, to have that one password encoded so you have to contact the mod for the password and she would have to approve you by looking at how many post you have , how long you have been a member and age. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005 06:52:58 AM »

Though I'm not too keen on the idea of an adult board in general (threads are usually clearly labeled and I'd hate to see every li'l bit of nudity greeted with "Wouldn't this be better placed on the adult board?"), I really dislike the password protection idea. It's impossible to enforce, lots of trouble to maintain, and creates undo curiousity over vibrator cozies, imho.

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2005 12:34:44 PM »

I like the idea, but not because of the people who are offended by it.  It would help, but not for that reason alone.   I like it because it'll make it a lot more easier to search.  Especially if you're looking for something for a bridal shower gift, or for someone's birthday, or just because you feel like making something like that.   It would be a lot easier to see it all in one place than to have to look through a ton of threads.   I know we can't have a board for every little category, but this is probably big enough on it's own to have it's own little section Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2005 11:40:08 PM »

i think an adult themed board is a great idea, but the passwording is not... it would create too much work for the people at craftster, who i imagine already have PLENTY to do to keep this site running as smoothly as it seems to.  besides... if a minor wants to view things that are meant for a 'mature audience', s/he will find a way to do it.  it is not difficult at all to lie over the internet about your age.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2005 07:56:55 PM »

Passwording might be a bit over the top... People can read the place where it would say adult boards, and obviously they would only click there if they wanted to see it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2005 02:55:53 PM »

I think it's a good idea for the reason that it would be easier to find items for those of us looking for them.   I can't beleive anyone would get offended from anything I've ever seen done on this board but if they do ok? 
You can't password protect it, there are over 46000 members to this board.  First you can easily lie about your age, second, every board that I've seen try this has failed and ended up closing down for a few days to try and fix the mess it caused.
What is adult only?  Vibrator cozies, the vagina swap, anything with a vintage pinup on it.  Who decides?  And you will wipe out half the other boards if you move them all.  Although I bet it would be one of the most visited boards. 
My other problem is that if you have an underage person on this board and they see Adult Only...chances are they are going to that board first and foremost.  Right now it has to be in the area they are interested in to even know it's there.  Making a seperate board is free advertisement for those projects.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2005 03:29:18 PM »

My! Will you people lock everything in life? Do you think it's in young people's interest to blur, hide everything sexual from them (and don't worry they know more than what you think lol!)Huh? Like that, when you become adult, you think sex is something you should be ashamed off. I think there is nothing worse for the sexual life development.

Plus those topics are always always clearly indicated. Most of the time, the "sex" crafts are cute. If you are not able to explain things like that to your kids, you should give up on their education!

Pay attention, censorship is the better way to prepare dictatorships!

I have an idea for you, put a bandage on kids eyes, cotton in their hears and lock them in their bedroom. oufff, nothing terrible will happen to them!  Angry
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2005 04:44:20 PM »

Geeze guys it was just a suggestion to lock the board. I said I liked the idea of an adults only board, the only reason I suggested locking it was because y'all were trying to find a way to keep theyoung kids out and I said I knew it wouldn't really work because everyone can lie about their age, and I NEVER SAID SEX  WAS A BAD THING AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF IT!  I didn't intend for all of you to slam me and my idea.  I am officially begging off of this topic anymore.  Just wanted to offer my 2 cents and help craftster.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2005 04:52:10 PM »

Pretty much everyone has shot down the password idea, so I won't bother to shoot that down as well. Wink

I think it would be too difficult to have an Adult Only board simply because it's really hard to define "Adult Only".  First of all, some people have higher standards than others.  For instance, I won't consider anything with a pin-up girl to be adult only, but I'll bet there are some people who would... Things like that.  I'm actually not easily offended at all, so my standards on things to be made "adult" would be lower than other people.  Basically, it's too hard to define "Adult Only" and in any case, most people label their boards accordingly if it may offend some viewers (IE--I've seen people have "PG-13" or "May Offend" in their titles)  So in that sense it keeps those who don't want to see anything "bad" from not accidently seeing anything. 

And as far as trying keeping the younger crowd out--probably if they saw an Adult Only board they'd be far more drawn to it anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2005 05:34:28 PM »

I NEVER SAID SEX  WAS A BAD THING AND WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF IT!  I didn't intend for all of you to slam me and my idea.  I am officially begging off of this topic anymore.  Just wanted to offer my 2 cents and help craftster.

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I was not speaking about you and wasn't placing any words in your mouth! It was an argumentation about the general idea of the Adult board and the danger of censorship.
And as krajackex perfectly said :And as far as trying keeping the younger crowd out--probably if they saw an Adult Only board they'd be far more drawn to it anyway. lol As well, to define what is adult or not...

I didn't want to attack anyone. I just wanted to speak freely about the fact people locks things in life more and more. That's sad. And dangerous.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2005 07:09:39 PM »

well i don't think an adult board would be created for the purpose of keeping kids out. its so crafts of a similar theme can be placed in the same location, just as there are seperate boards for clothes, and recon clothes, and so on.
so, if someone was interested in, for example, making some kind of adult-themed craft, they'd find it easier to see relevant posts.
i don't think that its a matter of censorship. ... its just another suggestion on how to expand and tweak the way the boards are organized. Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2005 03:20:47 AM »

Rather than making a new board I'd rather the mod just encoraged everyone to make the titles say "mature" or "adult" - one of the things that attracted me to this board was that it wasn't moderated to be child safe.

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2005 03:14:29 PM »

whilst i can see what the person who posted orginally was trying to say, i think in practice this sectioning of adult projects, as a form of censorship,  is not the direction that crafster needs to take as a board. as every internet junkie knows censorship (for lack of a better word) is difficult over the internet and there are usually ways of getting around it.

personally i think its highly unlikely that children look at this board for their own benefit -- and even if they do (this goes for younger teenagers too), i don't think (or have never seen!) anything that would be considered lewd or nasty... for example pornography.

i think its part of the spirit of art and design (and craftster) that limits aren't placed on what people can and can't post and i don't think anything that fringes on being 'adult' in nature should be put in a censored section.

nor do i think it should have its own category particularly - but others may disagree. i don't think havig a freely accessible special section is necessarily a bad idea

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2005 09:10:20 AM »

I know there is no way to really see how old a crafter is, but it would be a good idea, to have that one password encoded so you have to contact the mod for the password and she would have to approve you by looking at how many post you have , how long you have been a member and age. 
I don't like the idea of it being password protected.
I'm sure there are younger people here that are mature enough to handle a few adult crafts.
It's not like there's actually any pornography on here so it shouldn't really be a problem..
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2005 09:50:10 AM »

Pretty much everyone has shot down the password idea, so I won't bother to shoot that down as well. Wink

I think it would be too difficult to have an Adult Only board simply because it's really hard to define "Adult Only". 
And as far as trying keeping the younger crowd out--probably if they saw an Adult Only board they'd be far more drawn to it anyway.
ditto.
My thinking is this- if it is knitted boobies THEY ARE JUST KNITTED BOOBIES. even my mother thinks those are hilarious.
The only thing I would be offended by is outright porn.
Which I have never come across on here.
I do however think it would be a fun idea but I also know (having been young once) that if you do it to keep those who are too young out THEY WILL COME IN DROVES!


THEY ARE HARMLESS CRAFTS!.

But yes- it would make the searching alot easier.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2005 08:39:26 PM »

Instead of making a separate board, which might not work so great for the afformentioned reasons, why doesn't a dedicated craftster take some of their own time and create a page of links to other "adult" threads? There is one that I know of that has links to all of the tutorials, and it's really cool.
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=25199.0

That way searching would be much easier for those of us who would like to be inspired, and all of the crafts can stay on their respective pages (so we don't have crocheted things, resin things, food things, etc., all on one page). And it won't be as big of a deal whether a pinup model is an "adult image" or not, it wouldn't prevent anyone from seeing anything (borderline censorship). People who want their craft on the page could PM the person who started it, or the rest of us could let her/him know when we find one we think should go on it. Like hugs-n-bugs was saying, we all just want the best for Craftster.

I think it works fine to just have a word of warning on the title because some of the content is a little adult for sure (I'm thinking of the hilarious "Chester the Molester" thread, which isn't even that bad). But let's face it, reading about sex and sex-related stuff is fun. We like it. So let's just honor the threads with a links page.

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2005 10:47:00 AM »

I think that the craftsters themselves have done a good job of titling their projects so that you know if they have adult content, and I thank you all for that. 

I also have not been offended by anything here but I do think that an adult themed board would be a good idea.  Then of course you get into the question of, is all nudity adult.  I don't think so but how do you tell.  I saw some beautiful tiles that were erotica themed and very adult oriented I believe.  My teens could handle that but my younger children would be better off not looking at that. 

I also am not opposed to having a password to view the adult themed items.  For those of you that got upset at this idea just remember that we all rear our children differntly.  some feel that meat is bad but nudity is ok.  And others are the other way, so don't knock the idea.  I was in fact wondering the other day when I looked at a craft how I would feel if my teenage daughter, who is a member of craftster, saw that project.  A seperate, password available board would keep me from even worrying about that. 

On the other hand, it is my responsibility to set boundaries for my children, discuss things that they see and hear and are exposed to so that they know how I feel about it, and to monitor what they are doing and seeing on the internet. 

So, in summary I think that 1) yes there should be an adult themed board, 2) it should be password accessable (sorry), and 3) not all nudity is considered adult themed.  (maybe leave it to the good sense of the craftsters themselves to decide, so far I have seen a lot of good sense and consideration for the sensibilities of others and I appreciate that very much.)
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2006 06:06:06 PM »

I also like the idea of an adult board. I am under the impression that there are lots of impressionable kiddies around craftster and a locked 18+ board would be a great idea.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2006 06:11:13 PM »



THEY ARE HARMLESS CRAFTS!.

thats what i thought about the recent controversial roach clips. I know, i know in some places "its ILLEGAL!!!!" not the craft, the craft is harmless, but someone MIGHT use it for something ILLEGAL. To each his own I guess. I just think an adult board would cut down on the whining
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2006 06:32:46 PM »

From the vantage point of another parent, I feel it is not Craftster's job to mediate for parents who would rather let someone else make the important choices.  This is not pornography we're talking about.  It is nothing which legally requires an age limit to view.  It is only something that some people might prefer an age limit to view, and that is based entirely on how they view parenting.  

Well, since that's the case, I say let them enforce that rule on their own children.  That is what they are for.  That is what I am for in my own child's life.  I don't leave it up to website administrators to protect my child from whatever it is I think she shouldn't look at.  I resent it that some who don't WANT to take responsibility for what their children see are allowed to let that responsibility fall on the shoulders of others, like teachers, shop owners, website administrators, video game manufacturers, musicians and their recording studios, etc.

It is not the musician's fault that a child hears words they should not hear, it is the parent's fault and none other, and it isn't Leah's fault or the craftster who posts a thread if a child sees something their parents feel is unseemly for a child that age.  It is the parent who is unaware of or lax in their child's browsing habits.  Any child who is too young to see a crocheted penis is, in my opinion, also too young to be browsing the internet without adult supervision or at least parental controls of some kind.  They shouldn't ever accidentally see a crocheted penis if their parents don't think that is suitable subject matter.  And if they do, the parents have none to blame but themselves for not doing their jobs.  

Eh, perhaps I sound harsh, judgemental or accusatory.  But it's true.  Parents are more and more expecting other people to cover for their inability to govern their own children.  If they don't have the control over their kids or haven't instilled in them the values they think they should have, then they never blame themselves, but instead expect other people to modify the way they do things in order to protect their children.  And the more people bow to this self-involved, self-imposed view of parenting, the more those parents are able to do it, and keep doing it, and the less they ever need to actually do their jobs as parents.  Imposing an 18+ restirction on some material based on whatever criteria one might choose may not only disallow perfectly mature teenagers whos' parents have no moral outrage at crafts involving the human body from experiencing them, but it also allows lazy parents to get away with their attitudes.  And, as you can probably tell by now, I hate that.

I know people will still worry about what other peoples' children get exposed to.  Frankly, as far as that goes I'd rather worry about other peoples' kids getting exposed to domestic violence, poverty, adultery, etc., than worry about them seeing a crocheted penis.  It just seems a little trivial.  Some people think that if any parent might not be doing their jobs we should all do their jobs for them to protect the children.  I say that's a sure way to ruin.  I'm tired of good people with good ideas bending over backwards to accomodate half-hearted parents who then complain that society is going the way of the dogs without realizing the responsibility for THAT belongs to those who don't actually bother to raise their children, not the artists and atheists they think their children should be protected from (but god help us, not actually by THEM).
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2006 07:19:58 PM »

Lothriun,  I agree it is the parent that need to take responsability for their kids, and what they see online, BUT  When a kid is away from the parent  you acannot stop them and you can pull Craftster up at the computers at my high school, so yes we could be looking at crocheted penises at school, some of the software they use does nto stop from pulling up craftster, therefore  having a password protected could at least warn the system that inappropriate material is onteh site, for that fact you can get craftster at our library too, I pulled up craftster to look up the name of a book I wanted to check out, granted I did not see if I could open an 18 or older link but I am sure if I got that far I could have.

Yes, we will still have the fact that they can lie about their age to get access and I am not offended  by many of the posts, but I also don't want any of my students looking up how to make a boob or whatnot in school.
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2006 07:30:31 PM »

Lothruin I'm totally with you! Very great points you got there. The lack of responsability is what kills a society.
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2006 07:41:28 PM »

Ah, yeah. I have an "adult-themed" craft that I have held out on posting for a while because I don't want to piss anyone off. Its one thing to swear or to show a buttcrack or something, but my project is ADULT.
Everyone is making great points on both sides. I guess my standpoint is that I would rather have my kid looking at an adult-themed craft that was funny or silly than a porn site which is extremely easy to get into.
If craftster had an adult-themed area, I don't think it would prevent young people from viewing it. All it would be is: "If you are 18 click here- otherwise, click here to get rerouted." How many of us said we were 18 before we actually were? The only thing an adult area would be is damage control for the site and its adult-themed posters.
It would be good to segregate so people don't accidentally stumble onto an adult themed project when it could interfere with their religious beliefs or morals. But I don't think it would have much impact on the underage issues. If some kid wants to look at a boob, they are going to find one. And Craftster.org is the LAST website on earth that should be criticized for corrupting kids.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2006 07:45:22 PM »

I thought we were here to create arts and crafts..
Not porn.

Anything on here should be classed as a craft and treated as such, we're all mature enough (well, mostly) to be able to handle a bit of nudity in the quest for our craftyness and crafty endeavours!

Oh my, is that a bit of leg showing on that "my first sock thread"?  OMIGOSH.

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2006 07:49:56 PM »

I agree that it's not going to stop any kid who wants to look. I'm not offended easily and I would like an easier way to search for those types of crafts. Plus, I think it might make for a good disclaimer. If Adult things are going to get posted and there's a section roped off for it which a big sign saying "Do not enter if you're not 18!" it would be hard for any parent to get mad that their kid looked at it, and it would cut down on the drama. And yeah, it's hard to draw a line. I guess that would have to be left up to each Craftster who posts, and if they're not sure, they can post in Adult, and then post a link to that topic in their normal section. Overall, I'm against censorship, but I'm also against drama, and I would like to find that stuff easier.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2006 08:03:51 PM »

I'm just thinking about a project I did over christmas.. I crocheted a condom shaped object (by accident) and used self-regulation to not post the pictures on here.

If I had.. where would they have fitted?  Where do we draw the line between adult and child?

I saw a condom when I was 9 years old.. have pretty much always known what they were and what they were used for!

But then.. a boobie pillow?  Tutorial can be found linked to on the "thank you" page of craftster, in plain view for all to see!

I think we're here to create crafts, not pick apart what is suitable and what isn't.  I'm sure a lot of things could be taken the wrong way on here, it's just up to self-regulation about suitability I suppose!
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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2006 10:13:17 PM »

Well, I can understand the problem if children who are not at home when they view the internet.  My brutal honest opinion is that good parents don't raise children who simply avoid their rules by running off to another location to do the things their parents won't let them do.  If their kids go off to the library to circumvent their rules, then they've still failed somewhere along the lines, and they only have themselves to blame.  Again I say it is not Craftster's job to follow up where the parents have failed. 

I'm not completely against an area of the site that organizes adult-themed projects, but what determines the projects that would go there concerns me, except that I trust Leah's judgement.  Still, this site is not a site designed for use by children.  Children aren't unwelcome, but it is not a child's site, and like any other forum on the web which doesn't turn children away but isn't specifically designed with them in mind, it might contain things which aren't suitable for those kids, be it knitted boobs, language or other subject matter.  And unless there is a push to make this a specifically child-friendly site, I don't see why that should change. 

Even in reorganizing those projects one still runs the risk of kids seeing pictures of knitted  genetalia, through the "most recent" links and such.  Perhaps if those posting adult crafts were simply asked to use links to pictures in their posts rather than posting the pictures themselves it would help with a lot of the drama, as it has been called.  Then, if a thread is clearly marked as having questionable material, and pictures are only available by intentionally looking at them, no one could honestly claim that their child was innocent and accidentally exposed.  This doesn't help the matter of head-strong high school students intentionally waiting until they head to the library to look up instructions on how to knit a boob.  (I could question why a high-school student isn't old enough to see instructions on knitted boobs, since high-school students are old enough to lose a boob to breast cancer, but that isn't really important.  I understand that I'm fairly liberal in what I consider appropriate, having already shown my three year old a picture of Michelangelo's David and watched her walk around with my bra on shouting "boobies".  As far as I'm concerned there is nothing shameful about the human body.)  But it would keep unsuspecting (and actually young and impressionable) children from accidentally viewing pictures their parents think them too young to see.

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Also, I was just thinking, when people were mentioning that it was difficult to search for crafts with an adult theme, that if all threads with adult content (in the eyes of the person posting the thread or a moderator on that particular board) actually put the word "ADULT" or "MATURE" in the thread title, then all you'd need to search for would be that one word and you'd come up with all the adult-themed crafts you want, provided some convention was agreed upon and enforced.  I know our moderators work very hard, but I also know they're good at what they do, and in reality the number of crafts that are really adult in nature are very few, so I have no doubt that with we Craftsters' help, the mods would have no trouble keeping everything labled to protect the innocent and to make searching for all the knitted, sewn, embroidered or otherwise crafted raunchiness easy and fun.
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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2006 01:34:46 PM »

I like the idea of having a "mature audiences" area, but password protection and age verification are just silly. My 12 year old knows how to bypass those types of things, and i can bet that most kids her age also know.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2006 12:58:38 PM »

I think that it would be a bit silly to have a separate board.  Maybe, instead, we could have all "adult' themed projects have the words "mature" or "adult" in them.  I personally do not have any problems with this kind of expression (hey, if that's where your muses take you, I'm down with that!), but I would not want anyone to be offended unnecessarily.
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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2006 01:48:40 PM »

it would be nice to have this cause then it would be easier to find stuff....as for thie kids thing....don't most internet providers provide "parental controls"  that regulate what content is allowed?
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2006 08:59:39 PM »

Yes, there are parental controls...but if there is any reference of adult content on a page (including expletive-type screen names, I believe)  It will keep someone from viewing the entire board and you cannot get to any of the threads...not just the one with the adult content.  So, in my humble opinion, there is something to be said for having a separate board.   Cool

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2006 06:23:39 AM »

I think it all depends on the users. It won't really matter if you create a seperate board in my opinion. People will still venture there. I'm 14, and (believe me, I've seen my fair share of genitalia) I think these projects are quite cute, especially the female inspired ones!
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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2006 09:13:38 AM »

 Roll Eyes  Smiley Okay, I'm really not talking about those who are searching the stuff out, like yourselves.  It's simply that there are those of us who don't wish to see it, and will stop referring the site to their friends because of them possibly being offended by something they don't wish to see or hear in the first place...that's all.  I'd just like to have a seperate board so you can know that 'this is where the adult content is'  instead of tripping on it through the threads.

It's the same as the video stores that have a seperate XXX room...it's seperate for those who don't wish to see that stuff...any consenting adult  wishing to see it is perfectly welcome to go there.

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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2006 01:05:19 PM »

 
Even in reorganizing those projects one still runs the risk of kids seeing pictures of knitted  genetalia, through the "most recent" links and such.  Perhaps if those posting adult crafts were simply asked to use links to pictures in their posts rather than posting the pictures themselves it would help with a lot of the drama, as it has been called.  

 

This is a very good point. The threads would still have to have the words "MATURE" or "ADULT" in the titles, so people who are inclined to do so can avoid them. Also, it would eb a good idea to have a link you have to click to see the images. I have nothing against adult threads---some of them are hysterically funny---but all that is really needed, in my opinion, is just some sort of warning in the title--not a whole new forum.

In my case, I would want to wait to open that thread till my six-year-old is out of the room, so he doesn't get an eyeful of something I'm not ready for him to see.
 
   
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2006 11:31:26 PM »

I too support the addition of a separate 'adult' board.  I understand that this forum is not meant for kids, but I also browse the 'recent posts with pictures' button...I stumbled upon the porn skirt recently, and saw the pics before the headlines.

I agree that a password protect is unnessesary, but a separate thread (for rated R images, words (like the 'fu__ you' samplers recently swapped, adult toys and projects with genitalia images) would be good.  Those who enjoy those novelties can amuse each other, while the rest of us get entertained by ninja turtles sun dresses and other more everyday stuff. 
I think the best way is to ask each member not to list anything on the regular boards that is more than PG-13.  Make a bra? post it.  Make pasties? put it on the adult board.

My idea is, that, when you click to enter the adult board, there was simply a pop-up that read "CAUTION, mature content in this board, view at your own descretion, adult topics and images" and they had to click a link that they accept that content.   Basically, it would be a 'are you sure?' step, instead of just throwing everything together.

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« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2007 11:43:30 AM »

I almost hate to bump this topic because it seemed to cause some controversy; however, I feel like I have to. And here's why:

Today I wanted to start a discussion about something I want to make, but for the first time, I really second-guessed myself about whether it would be "appropriate" for Craftster, and I started looking online for a Craftster-like forum that was more adult-oriented. As you can imagine, the experience was disappointing (to say the least -- and I didn't even look hard).

I love the open spirit of Craftster. Absolutely love it. I want more than anything to discuss ways in which to make my vinyl kimono into a BDSM kimono for an erotica ball I'll be attending in two weeks. I even started writing the post. But I can't bring myself to post it because -- while I have no doubt that there are people here who would contribute FANTASTIC ideas, and the conversation would be as lively as ever -- posting on a general board feels like having the conversation in an open cafe without at least lowering my voice a little.

So, I'm wondering, was there an official decision ever on this? It doesn't appear it's been accepted, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's been refused either. Is it under consideration at all? Obviously any method of age-verification would not be 100%, but I don't think that's the point. Not for me anyway -- I'm not about "protecting the children" as much as I am about having one place where I can NOT censor my own self. Whomever else is there is THEIR problem. You know?

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Can we have a section just for NSFW stuff?  As far as I can tell, it would serve at least 2 purposes:

1) it would keep little'uns from "accidently" seeing stuff they maybe shouldn't
2) it would make it easier for me to find ('cuz that stuff makes me grin)

Really, the order of those things should be reversed.  I just thought the censorship part might be a bit more persuasive for some. 
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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2008 06:21:23 AM »

I think that the NSFW crafts are far too varied to go into just one board - people don't necessarily seek those out, so they might get less attention. Plus, things could quickly devolve into "religious-themed work," "politically-themed work," etc.

My feeling is that all NSFW should be CLEARLY marked in the title, and the teaser photo should be work-safe. I think the mods are very quick to pick up on any violations. It's not necessarily their job to police the internet, however, and a NSFW board seems a bit like banishing particular crafts because of potentially-inappropriate or offensive content.
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