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« on: August 01, 2005 04:37:19 PM »

Hi,
I was admiring this hat while watching previews for the upcoming Elizabethtown starring Kirsten Dunst.  Would anyone here know of a similar pattern for a hat like this or have suggestions on how to make one?

http://www.elizabethtown.com/gallery.html

The red hat is the one I'm talking about.

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005 05:02:46 PM »

http://www.fruitychick.com/blog/patterns/Nora.pdf
thats kinda similiar...
but you could also try a beanie pattern but just make it loose fitting, my mom crocheted one and it looks similar to that one you posted.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005 05:07:35 PM »

Hmmm, here's how I would attempt it:
1) measure head circumpherence
2) cast on tightly with a small needle just enough to fit your head.
3) join round and knit 1 or 2 rows in pattern of choice
4) switch to needle 1-3 sizes larger and knit a tube to desired length
5) cut yarn, thread through all stitches and cinch up tight and weave in end.

I'm not absolutely sure it would work (I'm especially not sure about the beginning).  I'm pretty sure that's how you'd finish it off.  the key is that you want the hat to be loose on your head, but snug at the brim (that's why I have you switch needle sizes).  

Good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2005 11:51:23 PM »

I'm looking for this hat too, I love it.  Has any one tried melodomi's suggestion?  Here are some more pics for different views:



Hmmm, maybe some increases are needed?
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2005 03:01:55 PM »

Hmm, I think I'm going to try it using an increase. It also looks like it is in a ribbed pattern after the brim, maybe 5k then 5 alternating kp?

I'll let you guys know if I figure anything out!
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2005 09:06:22 AM »

The more publicity that's coming out, the more close-up pictures I see of the hat. It's got some cabling up the sides (ungh) and a ribbed brim.  The official website doesn't have the close up, but it's a publicity shot of her and Orlando with their heads against each other. You can really tell what the hat looks like.  It kind of has a tam-o-shanter thing going on, but it doesn't seem all that poofy. hmm.  Best of luck. I'm not touching anything with cableing involved right now.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2005 09:58:26 AM »

A few rows of k1 p1 rib on relatively small needles would make the band nice and snug. Then switch to larger needles and do an inc row would make it nice and big after the ribbing. (If it would ruin the look of the hat, maybe you could fold the band so that it's inside the hat?)

This is probably useless. I'm just brainstorming here.

I made a hat last year that turned out a lot like that because it was too big, and I really wanted to wear it, so I just folded the band and sewed it. (Yeah, I know. Roll Eyes) But I'm sure there's a proper knitting way to get that effect.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2005 10:02:38 AM »

Oooo...that hat is so cute!  Good luck figuring out the pattern!
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2005 08:29:21 PM »

http://www.camillavalleyfarm.com/knit/lopi.htm

There is a remarkably similar looking hat on the cover of Lopi Pattern book #24. A little chunkier, but it might give you some ideas. Go to this website and scroll down a bit to see the pattern book.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2005 02:47:29 PM »

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368709/

Ok if you look to the right there is an ad for the movie.  If you go to photos and click #7 there is a great shot of the hat.  Sorry... that is the best way I fould find to get you to the picture  Undecided

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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2005 04:22:05 PM »

well it doesn't look like there are any special increases from what i can see, as it looks like the cables and ribs stay in pattern. but maybe you can do the first few rows with a smaller needle so that it hugs a bit better.  and i think the poof part is achieved with a loose fit and then decreasing all the stitches only in the last few rows.  kirsten dunst always looks good in those sort of poofy hats.  i think it must be her face/head shape.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2005 06:47:51 PM »

I personally think that this hat is fairly close. She doesn't give the exact pattern I don't think, but try leaving a comment to see if she can help you out maybe?

http://www.livejournal.com/community/knitting/5491266.html
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2005 07:12:37 PM »

I would love to have this pattern too, or to try to figure it out.  I'm still learning about how to figure out patterns and stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2005 11:10:42 PM »

I think I might knit a little elastic in the first few rows.  I can't figure what's holding this thing on her head.

Other than an army of stylists, of course!
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2005 11:43:30 PM »

I made my version of the Elizabethtown hat from the SnB nation book.
I simply knit the Cabled newsboy cap with wool-ease worsted weight using size 8 and 10-1/2 dpns but added 4 more rounds (1 more of the cable pattern if that makes sense) and left off the brim.

I'll upload a picture tomorrow - I don't have the camera right now but the doing it this way made it fantastically similar, I'm sure with some creative modification it could be even closer to the original.
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2005 11:44:42 PM »

I think I might knit a little elastic in the first few rows.  I can't figure what's holding this thing on her head.

Other than an army of stylists, of course!

if you use smaller needles (i used size Cool to knit the first few rows and then switch to larger (i used 10.5) it makes the brim snug enough that it'll stay on pretty well, even if you have super babyfine hair like mine. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2005 03:55:05 PM »

i could be totally wrong, but it almost looks like it is folded under to create the puffyness. Does that make any sense??
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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2005 06:56:38 PM »

My guess is Cast on 90 st. on size 7 needles. Work in 2x2 rib for about an inch or so, then switch to size 9s. The rest appears to be a 4x1 rib/cable. So *knit 5, purl 1, slip 2 to cable needle, knit two, knit two from cable needle, purl 1* and repeat from * around every 4th row, the others are k4p1 around. I THINK. I'll try it EVENTUALLY, after I finish my school spirit stuff (aka CoS Griffyndor scarf and matching striped mittens).
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2005 07:01:59 PM »

i fell absolutely IN LOVE with that hat ever since i saw the trailers for that film
it's wonderful
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2005 08:57:58 PM »

I think I'm going to try this....I don't know with what yarn yet but I think I'm going to make this I need a hat for winter I've already got scarves and gloves.
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2005 09:17:40 PM »

I can't figure what's holding this thing on her head.
Other than an army of stylists, of course!

hahaha! i totally agree! i too have been admiring this hat from all the commercials, however i have the *teeniest* head, and so most hats tend to slide off it unless i have em pulled down to almost touching my eyebrows! seriously, having a pea-head sucks!

but i'm curious to see someone finally tackle this project, so that i can suss out whether or not it might be worth attempting to scale it down for my mini-melon!
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2005 12:32:18 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2005 01:31:10 PM »

looks like it!!  just substitute a cable pattern instead of the purse stitch and you've got it.  I just bought some LB microspun to try this out today.
I plan on doing a p1,k1,p1,k1,p1 rib then a 4 or 6 stitch cable.  We'll see!  Wish me luck  Kiss

Its kinda funny that this hat  is from spiderman 2... very similar to the Elizabethtown hat.  Does she have it in her contract that she must be able to wear a "pithy hat" in all of her movies or what??
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2005 04:42:22 PM »

I wish I had seen this post last night.  I started on a version of this hat...I think I may have to frog it because my cables are looking more stretched than they should.  Increases should fix that I think...
I've never tried to figure out a pattern before, this is more fun that I expected. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2005 09:56:50 AM »

Ok... here's what I have so far...
I am using Lion Brand Microspun in cherry red.  I started with size 3 needles, and CO 110 sts.  K 4 rounds, then did an increase round k1, m1 around.  Then switched to size 5's.  From there:
Rows 1,2, 4,5,6 [p1,k1,p1,k1,p1,k4]
Row 3 [p1,l1,p1,k1,p1 sl2 to cn and hold to back, k2, k2 from cn]

I havent had much time to work on it cuz its midterm week coming up, but thats what I've got so far.  What do you all think?  any suggestions??  I would kinda like the cables to be smaller, but this works.  And I'm not sure I like how the first 4 rows roll up at the bottom.
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2005 08:03:13 PM »

slimisaw--it looks good.  I used 2x2 ribbing at the bottom and it hasn't rolled.  I have also started and restarted mine I think I'm on my third time now.  I've only made it to the cables once...I think after I increase I'm going to do a 6x3 rib and then every 5th or 6th row a cable twist.  I think....now that I look at the picture again I think there are more little ribs between each cable vertically....I don't know.

I also don't know how to make the cables smaller.  I'm using size 7 and 9 needles and Lion Brand Wool-ease.  I think yours looks good though.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2005 10:57:44 PM »

I love this hat!

It reminds me of this:

http://www.classic-yarns.co.uk/productexd.asp/_ctrl/c/plid/215/cid/7/scid/0/tid/0/_Lpage/1/id/

but then when I saw this version of the Coast hat made up:

http://www.girliscrafty.com/archives/000073.html

I don't like it nearly as much as the picture... hmm.

I am going to wait until someone else has finished it until I give it a go.  No shame in that.
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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2005 12:13:14 PM »

yeah, that looks sort of like it...but a little tighter on the head like...that's what it looks like to me.  I thought I would wait until someone else figured it out but I got impatient and decided to do it on my own.  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2005 07:23:51 PM »

looks like it!!  just substitute a cable pattern instead of the purse stitch and you've got it.  I just bought some LB microspun to try this out today.
I plan on doing a p1,k1,p1,k1,p1 rib then a 4 or 6 stitch cable.  We'll see!  Wish me luck  Kiss

Its kinda funny that this hat  is from spiderman 2... very similar to the Elizabethtown hat.  Does she have it in her contract that she must be able to wear a "pithy hat" in all of her movies or what??

too funny, I was trying to figure out why I was suddenly getting all these hits from craftster!!  I think my pithy hat pattern would work, but instead of the purse stitch, substitute with p1, k1, p1, k1, p1 (ribbing with purls next to the cable so it stands out) and a 3 stitch cable so that it fits into the 72 stitches Smiley

And I'm jealous of how good she looks in hats like this.  I love them and they make my head look like someone plopped a bowling ball cover on top of it :p

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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2005 08:48:41 PM »

looks like it!!  just substitute a cable pattern instead of the purse stitch and you've got it.  I just bought some LB microspun to try this out today.
I plan on doing a p1,k1,p1,k1,p1 rib then a 4 or 6 stitch cable.  We'll see!  Wish me luck  Kiss

Its kinda funny that this hat  is from spiderman 2... very similar to the Elizabethtown hat.  Does she have it in her contract that she must be able to wear a "pithy hat" in all of her movies or what??

too funny, I was trying to figure out why I was suddenly getting all these hits from craftster!!  I think my pithy hat pattern would work, but instead of the purse stitch, substitute with p1, k1, p1, k1, p1 (ribbing with purls next to the cable so it stands out) and a 3 stitch cable so that it fits into the 72 stitches Smiley

And I'm jealous of how good she looks in hats like this.  I love them and they make my head look like someone plopped a bowling ball cover on top of it :p

Theresa


okay...do you mean 72 stitches after the increases or 72 stitches excluding the ones being done into a cable (don't know how else to word it)?  I don't think what I have figured out is really working so I think I'm going to go with smaller needles and your instructions.

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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2005 04:46:20 PM »

oh sheesh, that's what I get for writing when I'm half asleep, LOL!  Ignore what I wrote, it doesn't take into account the increases.  I updated the pithy hat pattern to include directions for the e-town hat, so just use that Smiley it has directions for a three stitch cable or 5 stitch cable.  I fyou want hte cable bigger with less ribbing between, go with the 5 stitch cable, if you want the ribbing bigger go with the smalle 3 stitch cable.  If you need more detail son the cable (I didn't put specific instructions on how to do the cable, just said to do a three or 5 stitch cable) LMK and I'll add that, too Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2005 06:39:40 PM »

oh okay.   Thanks for the update.  I think I'm going to try to make the hat again tomorrow...or start on it. 
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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2005 09:16:50 PM »

 Grin Thanks turtlemama!
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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2005 08:05:59 AM »

Hi Turtlemama!

Do you have pictures of either of your finished Kirsten Dunst hats?

Gracias Cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2005 10:43:04 AM »

Turtlemama: I just saw this movie this weekend and I love this hat. Thanks for the pattern. I printed it out. Would you mind filling in the details about the cable? I'm not super familiar with them. I did it one time in a class, so I understand the idea, but just need a little more info. That would be awesome. Thanks so much!

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« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2005 12:49:23 PM »

I followed Nuno's imdb link, and here's the best picture I could find of the hat close up:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0368709/060_E-C2242-10.jpg

I'm guessing, but it looks like the pattern repeat would be something like [p1, k1] x 3, p1, k4, and the cable is just a c2f every few rows...

Jenner -- you'd just put two stitches on a cable needle, bring them to the front of your work so they over lap, knit the next two stitches and then knit the two on the cable needle. You can use a dpn if you don't have a cable needle or just let the two stitches "hang out" in front if you feel lucky. I'm curious to see how these turn out... You guys should do a movie hats knitalong!
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« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2005 04:22:12 PM »

i don't know if this helps any, but i saw the movie and was very fascinated by the hat through the whole thing. i noticed the edge of it was definitely selvedged and it looked like an extremely tiny gauge, like the way a tshirt is, obviously implying it hadn't been hand knitted. i would assume it was done flat and stitched up, there seemed to be a jog.
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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2005 06:22:04 PM »

I'm confused. How do you cable three? I've only done even numbered cables...
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« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2005 06:25:00 PM »

I'm confused. How do you cable three? I've only done even numbered cables...

I think you put 3 stitches on the cable needle and hold it either to the front or the back (depending on how you want it to twist of course) and the k3 and then knit the three from the cable needle.  That was my plan.
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2005 04:47:17 PM »

anyone else think it looks like a cross between a beret and a tam?
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2005 05:05:06 PM »

I do!  and I cast on again last night....I start the pattern tonight....unless I end up doing something else.
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2005 11:26:26 AM »


Yay!  I finished it! Grin
I used almost a whole ball of Lionbrand Microspun, which is a sportweight yarn, 168 yds per ball.  This is how I did it:
On size 3 DPN's, CO 110 sts
K 4 rounds
on round 5, K1, M1 around and then switch to size 5 DPN's
cable pattern: 
Row 1, 2, 4, 5 & 6: *p1, k1, p1, k1, p1, k4*
Row 3:  *p1, k1, p1, k1, p1, sl 2 sts to cable needle and hold to back, k2, k2 from cable needle*
repeat pattern until piece measures 6" from beg.
next round :k2 tog around
next round: k2tog around
next round: k2tog around
cut yarn, leaving 10" tail, thread on yarn needle and weave through stitches left on needles to tighten the hole and close it up.  Weave in ends.

***If I were to make this again, however, I would start out with k1, p1 rib at the bottom, cuz it rolls up, and maybe CO fewer sts to make it a little bit tighter around my head.  Also, I didn't CO the right amt of sts so the cables aren't evenly spaced out.  Embarrassed  Don't ask me why i didn't frog it in the beginning and fix these things...
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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2005 12:42:39 PM »

Great job! It looks just like the original! I can't decide if it would look good on my big scottish head (and short hair) or not.
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« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2005 01:15:42 PM »

Your hat looks great slimissaw!  I've been working on mine a lot this weekend after frogging it a million times over the last week or so.  I think mine might be a little tighter than I wanted after the brim.  I think yours looks good, the cables look like mine do.  I'll post more about mine when I get it done, hopefully I'll have a picture to post with it by then.  ::::crosses fingers::::

Also staralee, I have short hair and it looks all right so far on me. 
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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2005 01:17:11 PM »

very nice slimissaw... looks very much like the one in the movie

it's kinda funny how all us crafty people get obsessed about things like knitted hats in movies  Wink
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« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2006 12:17:14 PM »

Yes... I made one, too.
Its a bit longer like the original, but I like it though.



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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2006 06:43:08 AM »

I'm trying to do the turtleknits pattern, and am confused on the cable as well. If you slip three stitches, then knit three, you end up with basically a six stitch cable right? But then the next stitch in the pattern is supposed to be a purl, and with using six stitches, you are on a knit instead of the purl called for.

Am I losing my mind here?

*Edit* Yea ummm, finished reading the pattern. Nevermind!
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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2006 09:15:31 PM »

I loveeeeee this hat! My grandma is making me one. Haha.
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