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GummiSteph
« on: April 01, 2004 03:54:08 PM »

Hi! I am a vegetarian and am thinking about becoming vegan.  I love to bake, so not being able to use eggs, milk or butter seems daunting.  Does anyone have any good ideas about substitutions or recipes?  Also, if any of you have any words of wisdom about veganism, let me know!
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2004 03:59:56 PM »

here are some yummy ones Wink
http://www.craftster.org/yabbse/index.php?board=55;action=display;threadid=1652
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Goddess
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2004 05:17:28 PM »

I would ask that you please see your doctor before becoming vegan, that way you can get the proper vitamins to supplement your diet. other than that, good for you and I hope you enjoy your new lifestyle!
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004 12:01:21 PM »

i heard to use bananas instead of eggs. this would be the easiest way. but i haven't try it yet.
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Toast.
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004 02:47:22 PM »

I would ask that you please see your doctor before becoming vegan, that way you can get the proper vitamins to supplement your diet. other than that, good for you and I hope you enjoy your new lifestyle!

i disagree with this. no offence, but i know for a fact if you're healthy while being vegetarian, or even when eating meat, then converting to vegan should be just fine if you still eat the same base foods ( lots of rice and pasta, legumes and HEAPS of vegies and fruit)
.. subsitute eggs for 'no egg' powder, or arrowroot powder, mayple syrup or bananas.
substitute milk for soy, almond or rice.
substitute butter for a veg oil based margarine.
eat alot of fruit and vegies, which you should already do if you are veg. eat alot of nut and seeds. make sprouts.
eat some tofu etc. for protein. although nuts and seeds'll do that.
the conversion to vegan from vegetarian is surely not so huge? like you say there are only eggs and butter to worry about, those are easy.
i went from eating meat one day to vegan the next. and i did it perfectly easily and healthily. you can too. ( not to blow my own trumpet.. i had my reasons for doing it this way.. and if anything making a slow transformation would have been alot easier).
if you want any more advie or have any more questions, you're more then welcome to pm me.
but really.. vegan is not as hard or as much of a 'health risk' as you think. dietians and nutritionalists noiw readily admit it is possible to live a very very healthy live with no animal products at all, perhaps even more healthy than eating meat!
good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004 03:14:57 PM »

I'm agreeing with Toast. You don't need supplements if you eat properly. Now I have to say that TONS of veg*ans eat horrid, and need extra vitamins because they can't get those from chips and such.

http://www.vegweb.org/ and http://www.vegsource.com/ are GREAT resources!
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susank
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2004 04:23:22 PM »

I also agree with Toast.  I've been vegan for 7 years.  I did have anemia 6 years ago when I was in college taking 22 credits, working a late night dining hall job, and eating crap.  But not since then.  I eat fresh veggies and fruit as much as I can, and I try to eat a wide variety of them.  Broccoli is especially nutritious, as are bananas and nutritional yeast.  

I do take a daily multivitamin, but hey, I exercise 6 times a week and I need more than most people.  I also make sure to take a pill that does not have more than 100% of any vitamins-- overloading is just as scary and not getting enough.

I've been running long distance and training for a marathon for about a year, and although people are surprised and often discouraging when they learn I'm doing so while being vegan, no one knows I'm vegan unless I tell them.  

GummiSteph, you can do it, and you'll be so proud of yourself!
--susan.
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yami mcmoots
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2004 10:19:33 PM »

I've never found vegan substitutes to be quite as good as the original; with traditional European animal-heavy cooking you can taste the difference. Which is not to say that it doesn't come out tasty - it's just not as luxurious as butter and lard. Smiley

Here's what I usually do when cooking for vegan friends:
  • Soy milk for milk of course - but soy milk tends to be a little sweeter than cow's milk (particularly the vanilla flavored stuff) so I often cut out some of the sugar from the recipe.
  • Coconut milk for cream. Coconut milk ice cream is super-duper tasty!
  • Avoid egg substitutes in anything more complicated than cookies. Eggs provide leavening (use baking powder or soda), binding (use more flour) and moistening (use applesauce, bananas, soft tofu, oil, etc) all at once, and the substitutes you need will really depend on why the egg is important to the dish. It's possible to make anything short of a full-blown vegan souffle (and maybe someone's even done that, I don't know) but I've never gotten it exactly right on the first try.
  • Avoid all substitute cheese products, they are nasty. There are no acceptable substitutes for cheese.
Recipes designed to be vegan are always tastier than hastily altered ones imo, and certainly more likely to coax us omnivores away from our precious, precious buckets of lard... Wink
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Goddess
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2004 10:24:03 PM »

I'm agreeing with Toast. You don't need supplements if you eat properly. Now I have to say that TONS of veg*ans eat horrid, and need extra vitamins because they can't get those from chips and such.
 

this is my point, not trying to offend, but some people enter into veganism without the correct information, that's all I am saying. I shan't say much more, since it seems I am pissing people off as of late
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2004 07:37:26 AM »

Well...I just stumbled across this link today.  It might not be what you're looking for, but you never know......its living/raw food, fyi.

http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/

also this might be of interest

http://forums.delphiforums.com/veggietable
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Toast.
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2004 12:58:07 PM »

goddess,
i'm sorry. i didn't intend any offence, none at all.
being vegan you recieve ALOT of criticism and a few bit of it comes from peoples misunderstandings, so i just like to set everyone as straight as i can set them.
you're perfectly right. an unhealthy vegan would need supplements. i guess i just hoped most people, beind considerate enough for the animals would be considerate enough towards themselves to keep a good balanced diet.
anywho. i'm sorry if my first post seemes ranty, i'mm just a little anti-doctor overuse. its even proven that mishaps by doctors and medical practitionors is the 8th biggest killer of new zealand people.
i only go to the doctor if i really really need to. i think too many people just take doctors words as law and don't question them.
meeh. thats just my 2 cents, and this prolly isn't the best place for them.<3
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Goddess
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2004 11:31:19 PM »

none taken...and just to show I am not a big pooh, here's one of my favorite recipes


Wild Rice with Grilled Asparagus and Walnuts

Ingredients:

2 cups wild rice - approximate
1 pound asparagus - approximate
2 cups walnuts
fresh lemon juice is a must
tarmari - to taste
ginger root - a chunch
Directions:
Always try to us organic. Buy real wild rice, not cultivated, which is junk.

Basic instuctions only, cooking ingredients in past helpful:

Make wild rice (Rinse, usually a 2.5/3 water to 1.o rice ratio. Cook for 45-60 minutes. Some of rice should split when ready. You can drain any excess water)

While that is going on: grate ginger into tamari.

Preheat oven to 300. Spread walnuts on a cookie sheet or such oven cooking item. Put in for 10 minutes. While that is going on, grill asparagus (or steam which is easier) and set aside. Remove walnuts and put in a bowl. Dump tamari mixture over walnuts, and stir until walnuts covered. Put back in oven for 2 or 3 minutes. Remove and put in bowl.

When everything is done, mix the rice, walnuts and asparagus together, and squeeze fresh lemon juice over. I like to serve this dish with a big slice of lemon so the eater can choose lemonishness of food.
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2004 07:24:35 AM »

i just wanted to share a few things i've learned over the years in my quest for a healthy diet.

supplements-unless you eat fermented soy products and seaweeds/algae often, it's difficult for vegans to get enough b-12 and amino acids, among other things.  supplements are a way to ensure you're getting a balanced diet every day.  read more here

flax seeds, blended with the liquid in a recipe instead of eggs, are a wonderful, healthy substitute.  i learned this from lorna sass' (vegetarian)cookbooks.

protein- not to worry, because it's way overrated by the usda food pyramid-we need about 1/4 of what's recommended.  (could it be because the meat and dairy farmers are large contributers to the usda?  hmmm...)

soy products-there's some controversy here (isn't there always?).  new studies show a link between too much soy and cancer.  read more about it here (edited to add:) soy beans are also one of the most highly sprayed crops.  choose organic when possible to avoid heavy doses of pestcides.  here's a list of the top 16 most contaminated foods.

if you are vegan because you want to eat a healthier diet, know that butter is much better for you than margarine.  this is a common misperception, but margarine is high in "bad" trans-fats that raise your blood-cholesterol level, as well as being made using the chemical process of hydrogenation.  

and lots of vegan packaged foods are terrible  for you-just because it's animal-product free doesn't mean it's good for you.  
read the ingredients, aim for organic, and do your research that's what i've learned.  hope it's helpful!
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artzyfartzy
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2004 10:32:25 AM »


soy products-there's some controversy here (isn't there always?).  new studies show a link between too much soy and cancer.  read more about it here



I'm confused - maybe I'm not reading what you wrote correctly?  Do you mean this article shows a link between eating *too* much soy can possibley cause cancer?  I've heard the exact opposite and the article seems to be stating soy can possibly prevent it??  The bottom of the article even has a soy smoothie recipe?!

and GREAT tips btw firefly......the one about hydrogenation is one many people don't know or understand.  I always SKIP items that say hydrogenated anything in the ingredients because that is the worst stuff to put in your body !! (lots of items have it too ! like convenience boxed crackers, boxed cookies, chips, regular peanutbutter )  

Hydrogenated oils stay in your system and can definately cause high cholesterol.  ( Something ALOTTT of people have and have no idea they even do) Cholesterol usually has 0% of symptoms and is not detected without a *specific* blood test from a doctor.  I know!! because I had high cholesterol - and that's when I became a vegetarian and started learning the good and bad about ALL foods.

Great topic!  stay healthy ! and read your labels!

( ETA )
regarding your question... I have used bananas in place of eggs for baking.  Another good one is applesauce to replace the oil.  Eggs are used to "bind" food so these two ingredients work well. I make cornbread, cake, muffins and brownies this way!  nobody knows the difference!
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2004 10:43:36 AM »

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I'm confused - maybe I'm not reading what you wrote correctly?  Do you mean this article shows a link between eating *too* much soy can possibley cause cancer?  I've heard the exact opposite and the article seems to be stating soy can possibly prevent it??  The bottom of the article even has a soy smoothie recipe?!

thanks artzyfartzy for pointing that out-i pasted the wrong link, but now it's edited so there's one that makes sense.  it is confusing!  i still eat some soy, but i have cut back and use rice milk now instead, until more research is done.
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2004 11:18:13 AM »

Hi! I am a vegetarian and am thinking about becoming vegan.  I love to bake, so not being able to use eggs, milk or butter seems daunting.  Does anyone have any good ideas about substitutions or recipes?  Also, if any of you have any words of wisdom about veganism, let me know!

Kreeli has some great recipes and information on her site wrt veganism.
 Check out the "Whats up with?" section.

hope that helps
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Jason
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2004 11:46:32 AM »

Hi! I am a vegetarian and am thinking about becoming vegan.  I love to bake, so not being able to use eggs, milk or butter seems daunting.  Does anyone have any good ideas about substitutions or recipes?  Also, if any of you have any words of wisdom about veganism, let me know!

this is my absolute favorite chocolate cake recipe... and vegan too!
http://www.animaladvocacy.net/recipes/6minutechocake.html

I had this once at moosewood and totally fell in love with it. as near as I can tell, this recipe yields exactly the same result as what is served at the restaurant.
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susank
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2004 06:12:41 PM »

Awesome, J/A/S/O/N-- I've used that basic recipe for a friend's layered wedding cake, and everyone loved it.  

I've even substituted olive oil for the veg oil and rice wine vinegar for the vinegar (I usually use white) cos that's all I had.  The effect was very rich, receiving more complements than usual.

I really love How It All Vegan as a fun, hip vegan cookbook, but you can't beat the Farm cookbook written in the 70s for basics, and it's also fun to try some complicated recipes from Millenium Restaurant's cookbooks (it's in San Francisco-- fabulouso!).

--susan.
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Goddess
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2004 08:07:13 PM »

that sounds soooo yummy, do you usually use the coffee or just water?
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2004 12:33:42 AM »

http://veganchallenge.org/ has lots of recipes, product and cookbook reviews, resources, and forums. i like it!

i agree that recipes designed to be vegan turn out better than most substituted recipes. substitutions also bother me because often all the animal products get replaced with soy (soy milk, silken tofu, soy lecithin...) and you end up with a big soy pie. soy freaks me out a bit just because has such an active estrogen content, so i try to keep consumption to a minimum.

i really like the rebar modern food cookbook. it is vegetarian plus smoked salmon, but about 60-70% of the recipes are vegan or have simple vegan options. highlights: best vegan brownies ever, vegan french toast made with coconut milk, lots of awesome soups and main dishes, etc.

and for folks who rightfully fear hydrogenated trans fats: earth balance makes a vegan, non-hydrogenated margarine that is tasty, and becel has been making a non-hydrogenated (but non-vegan) margarine for a long, long time. most margarine has dairy in it anyways, so it isn't much of a health concern for vegans!
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2004 04:43:02 PM »

Gosh!  You guys are all so helpful!  I posted this topic on another websites forum and no one seemed to care.  Everyone here is so welcoming and nice compared to other website message boards I've read.  I got my "Sinfully Vegan" cookbook in the mail today so now I'm all hyped up about baking something!  Becoming vegan has really opened my eyes to what I put in my body and has educated me more about different kinds of fats and stuff like that.  The only thing that is in my way is the fact that a lot of the things I need for the recipes are pretty expensive, and I'm a poor college student.  I will probably try to experiment with cheaper substitutions (bananas, applesauce, etc) before I buy a lot of the expensive stuff. Keep the good advice coming!
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susank
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2004 04:51:44 PM »

I've always just used water, not coffee-- but I like to do up fancy frostings in mocha, peanutbutter, almond, raspberry, etc.

PB frosting is especially easy as you can just whip pb directly into powdered sugar, and drip soy/rice/almond milk (or water) in til it reaches the right consistency.

A note on powdered sugars: powder your own using the blender!  That way you can use fructose crystals or organic cane sugar-- something that doesn't use animal bones to make it shiny white.
--susan.
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Jason
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2004 05:14:56 PM »

A note on powdered sugars: powder your own using the blender!  That way you can use fructose crystals or organic cane sugar-- something that doesn't use animal bones to make it shiny white.
--susan.

thanks for the tip susan! and in response to your question goddess- I genearally use coffee, but water works out fine if you don't have or don't drink coffee. once I was jonsin' for some vegan chocolate cake so bad that I would not let the fact that I didn't have any vanilla extract stop me from baking one.  I just added some cinnamon instead... this recipe is nearly foolproof!
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2004 07:16:37 PM »

Check out http://www.veganchef.com for many, many great vegan recipies.  I've trued a bunch of them and they're all pretty good.  I've also got a good mint chocolate cookie recipie upstairs, I'll post it in the morning.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2004 08:51:40 AM »

check out http://www.veganoutreach.com/

good info on all aspects of veganism.  ~M
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