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Topic: Is there a technical name for these necklines and how do you make them?  (Read 1673 times)
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« on: March 06, 2014 05:57:14 PM »

I've been trying to think what they're called for months now. I've asked a couple sewing buddies but they don't know and the dresses description just says "winged collar" which doesn't give me much help when it comes to google.

So! I come to you lovely people to beg for help and stop me going insane!

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014 07:17:42 PM »

I believe my Mom would call that a Sweetheart neckline with a collar.  I had a red strapless with black polka dots when I was in Uni that she had made me.  The collar snapped on and off, so I could wear it with and without.  It didn't have buttons up the front though.  It had a zipper in the back.  Hope that helps Grin
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014 08:42:24 PM »

Don't know the name. There are two girls in one of my magazines who wear them...but I can't find the right mag just yet. They are also on TV. They develope recipies. And dress in those vintage fashions. A google search for retro clothing brought up many similar styles. They are from the 50's-ish. When I find the girl's names and website, I will let you know. They may be able to send you patterns, as they design their own "costumes" for the photo shoots. And similar aprons, too.

At this point, my only other suggestion is check Goodwill, and those form of stores. They often have vintage patterns in their crafty section. But some of these designs may be back in style...so check your local fabric stores, too. They might have newer patterns based on this one.

You make it like you do any dress....cut, pin, stitch.  Grin And gather where you need to. Fold, iron, and gripe  Cheesy
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Hey...second thought. Do you have a nice unstretchy item that fits you? Even a skirt and shirt. Separate? You can draft your own pattern based on the picture. This one looks to be cotton. Don't try your first pattern with your good material...in case you goof up and have to adjust things. But pick a similar material weight. And wing it. I will bet you can do it. I like the zipper up the back idea.
Just decide where your shirt and skirt match, and mark it somehow...I like safety pins for placements. Not pinned together, but just to give you the idea for the mark. Then you don't get stabbed. And can line them up together when you make your pattern. Zipper should start at your a-hole and go up  Grin That gives your hips ample room. Just ideas. I wish you luck with this project. When I find the girls in the book again, I will let you know. I think they post a webpage. They can probably help better.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014 02:48:44 AM »

Thank you both for your replies.

I went down the sweet heart neckline with collar route as well bit not much came up. I also though about calling it a facing, even though it's not on the inside. I don't know why I'm struggling with this concept so much lol
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014 03:14:25 AM »

Oops! I accidentally ordered http://www.simplicitynewlook.com/6146/ since it was on sale and I could use it as a guide Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014 07:07:51 AM »

That looks like it will get you there at least Grin
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014 10:17:17 AM »

They are pretty easy to draw yourself, dont need a pattern for them  Wink
When you draw yours it should look some what like this one ;



How to draw it:

Fold your front piece in halve.
Put it on a piece of paper.
Trace the neckline from the side seam to the fold. Call that line A
Mark where the line drawn up from the apex hits your trace line.
Now decide how long you want your collar piece to be. Lets say 5 cm or 2 inch.
Draw a line parallel 5 cm / 2inch from  line A
Now adjust how you want it to be.

Cut out 4 because you'll need to use interfacing to keep it nice and tight.
When sewing the whole thing together bast collar to neckline first , than close side seams.
For the best result you need to use a lining or facings else it keeps " flipping"









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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014 10:36:39 AM »

that looks like a halter top to me.  And it looks like a pattern for this might include a strapless version. 

So, try looking for halter and strapless dress patterns.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014 04:02:36 PM »

Thanks Nofuelleft, that's a great help Cheesy Do you have any idea what they're called though? lol I'm just curious what the proper name is.

I'm not too fussed if the pattern I've bought is halter/strapped ETC as I'm going to be vastly modifying it anyway. I just love the little collar lapel things and couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do them Sad But with Nofuellefts help and the pattern for a guide I think I might be able to do it now Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014 04:43:34 PM »

I think the pattern you purchased should work for the main body of the dress. And the suggestions for adding the collar will work out fine. If there is a facing for the bodice, attach it after the collar is basted in place. You are well on your way to being beautiful in one.  Grin

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This may help: http://skyturtle.net/various-vintage-necklines-and-how-to-draft-them/
Yours appears to be a modified pointed Peter Pan collar. The fourth one that is mentioned on this site.
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