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Topic: Are pattern sizes really supposed to be 10 sizes bigger?  (Read 984 times)
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« on: December 08, 2013 07:27:44 PM »

We're doing a Simplicity pattern and if we match the measurements on the back of the envelope, my daughter's size is 10 times bigger than the standard size, at like Walmart.

I knew they were off a bit, but 10 sizes?! Seriously? We did the measurements according to how Simplicity explains them here (note it's a pdf download): http://www.simplicity.com/images/downloadablePDF/0159_FIT_GUIDE_English.pdf

How many sizes off do you find on yours? Are they bigger, or are they smaller? I'm just wanting to know to make sure we're not crazy. lol!
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013 10:19:29 AM »

I wear a 10 misses in ready to wear, in patterns it's usually a 14..... so yes, they could be very different and each company has it's own sizing so always check the measurements before buying.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013 11:32:21 AM »

Okay. I never would have imagined 10 sizes different. Wow.

It makes me kind of wish that they had them lettered instead of numbered, because it makes my daughter sound huge. lol!
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013 07:46:44 PM »

Yes, I agree - sizing is all over the place, and never, ever what you'd think it would be, but 10 sizes is waaay beyond even the idiosyncratic pattern company sizing.  I would definitely make a muslin first.

Because of the crappy sizing, and multi-size patterns, I always trace my patterns onto Swedish Tracing Paper (a lot like Pellon, and not at all like tracing paper except that you can see through it pretty well - I get mine on Amazon), or onto the cheapest non-iron-on Pellon-type stuff I can find.  You can get a decent muslin fit-test with that stuff and save yourself some headaches.  You can even sew it together (I use a very long basting stitch that my sewing machine has built in) and it's drapey enough for a fitting.  Then, you can make your adjustments on the "fit-muslin" and use it as your pattern.   

I also understand the whole "big size" thing.  I would never, ever tell my size 6 daughter that I usually make her a size 12 pattern, and occasionally a size 14.  She would be horrified.  I usually fit to a dressmaking form, so she is none the wiser.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013 07:33:48 AM »

Its called vanity sizing : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_sizing

But 10 sizes is way off .

Get her high bust measurement ,  just above the breasts,   and use that where it says bust .
According to the size you get than  adjust the pattern  to the rest of her measurements
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2013 04:49:20 PM »

I've also found that Simplicity patterns tend to build in extra ease.  I'm usually a size 14 in pattern sizes, but I made a couple Simplicity patterns in that size and they were huge on me.

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