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« on: September 24, 2013 06:38:04 PM »

I made a little phoenix painting!  It's acrylic on a four-inch by four-inch mini canvas.  I put a pile of ashes at the bottom to indicate that he's just been reborn, but I'm not sure that I like it.  I may end up painting it over.



I thought acrylics were supposed to be opaque, but when I was painting the blue, I put about seven coats on and I could still see the edges of the green under it.  Tongue  I eventually had to paint white where I wanted blue, then put a few coats of blue over that.  So why is my white paint opaque and the blue not?  Did I not mix the blue enough before painting?  Do I just have cheap paint?  Could it have anything to do with the fact that I've had these paints since college (five years ago)?  I didn't think paint could go bad, other than drying out, but maybe it's time for a fresh bottle of blue.
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013 07:34:44 PM »

Love your painting!

I thought acrylics were supposed to be opaque, but when I was painting the blue, I put about seven coats on and I could still see the edges of the green under it.  Tongue  I eventually had to paint white where I wanted blue, then put a few coats of blue over that.  So why is my white paint opaque and the blue not?  Did I not mix the blue enough before painting?  Do I just have cheap paint?  Could it have anything to do with the fact that I've had these paints since college (five years ago)?  I didn't think paint could go bad, other than drying out, but maybe it's time for a fresh bottle of blue.

I'm not an expert on this, but I do know from my own experience that not all acrylics are opaque.  Look on the bottle -- if you are using artist's acrylics (as opposed to craft paints), then the label will probably list whether the hue is "opaque", "translucent" or "transparent" (that terminology probably changes depending on the manufacturer).  Also, the cheaper paint brands ("student level" as opposed to "artist" or "professional") have less pigment and more filler, so I believe it sometimes takes an extra coat or two with them to get the same quality of coverage as a more expensive brand.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013 06:56:05 AM »

Oh, don't paint over it! He is so cute!
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013 12:22:49 PM »

Cute! I love the colors you choose, the wings yellow to red and the backdrop.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013 06:29:38 PM »

Oh, don't paint over it! He is so cute!

Thanks!  And don't worry, I won't paint over the phoenix, just (possibly) the pile of ashes at the bottom.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013 09:35:14 PM »

great phoenix! 

high pigment paint=big bucks in my experience (especially the blues) so I often underpaint with white as well Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2013 02:00:21 AM »

You have your answers here. And I agree. Primer, your white helps tremendously. {Gesso the canvass?} As does spending extra for your paints, but not always necessary. What a beautiful bird. You did well working with what you had. It sometimes takes extra steps. And yes, certain paints do go bad, in addition to the dry out problem. They "sour" and the pigment will not adhere anymore.

The term for that is "flaking". Acrylic is not so common for this, oil paints have the worst trouble with this. They are not elastic like acrylic. But different brands have different properties based upon what they are mixed with. And the quality of ingredients used in them. I am not saying that money buys love, because I have got cheap paints of grand quality. But cost is usually a signal that you are getting a quality product.

To add to the life of acrylic? Clear silicone sealer added in. That is what dries out in them. Oils...linseed oil. Adds to the life of the paints. Also store the bottles upside down. Makes it easier to mix them, and seals the air out of the bottles. For tube paints...zippy bags. Again, sealing out air. And room temperature is important. Don't keep them in the trunk of your car!

You did wonderful. I love your birdie. I hope you make more projects like this.

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