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Topic: Fiber Friday - July 19, 2013  (Read 2768 times)
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2013 06:55:54 PM »

Must spin all the fluff! Wink
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013 05:05:18 AM »

Just got back from the cottage last night and I must ask for the scoop on camel.   
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2013 10:10:27 AM »

Well, we haven't found him. We have searched high and low, to no avail. We put out a brown alert, and just keep wondering why? Why did he leave us with no goodbye? Is he alright? Wait... Someone is calling my name... be right back...

WE FOUND A NOTE!

It just says Wednesday. What? What could this mean?
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2013 11:36:57 AM »

That's my "I don't know what to tell ya" story lol
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2013 05:43:42 PM »

It all makes sense now.
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2013 07:31:00 PM »

Grin
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2013 07:46:55 PM »

Sorry, he just got really excited for hump day

Um. I don't know what to tell you about the camel. Spinning it from the cloud. Probably gonna make it a two ply to make it more durable.

I have never spun something so thin and I have a problem. I spin it to the point that it kinks back on itself really easily and I thought to not apply so much twist but if I don't then I see parts where it's thick and thin and the thick areas will easily pull apart.

I'm still a pretty new spinner and don't know how to describe this problem effectively. I know these singles are going to be really energized. When I ply, I make sure to check my yarn as I go to see if it twists on itself slowly. I find if I do this, I end up with balanced yarns that don't twist when I release from the hank. I don't know if doing this process will help to negate the really energized singles in the end?

That's probably really vague  Undecided
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2013 09:30:17 PM »

Nope, not vague.  At least not to me.  Because camel is a very short fibre, you need A LOT of twist.  It's should give a good kink/twist/pigtail in the single.  To balance it when you ply, you need to ply tighter then you would with wool. It's probably not far off to say you could get 15-16 twists per inch in a plied yarn from camel (or maybe it is far off..., don't quote me, but if its thin enough I'm guessing it could happen).  If when plying you get it to the point where it gives a couple twists when you slacken it, you are probably good.  Now, as to a balanced yarn.  If your skeins come off the niddy noddy and twists, it's okay!  The extra twist comes out in the wash. Often, and especially, when you Skien right after plying your twist is still active. Which is why fresh yarn seems to have a lot of life, but once it's had a bath it's relaxed.  Kinda the way humans get. Wink
Hope that makes sense and is helpful.
Oh, and always give the singles extra twist with any fibre, because you down twist them as you ply (some of the twist is removed from the singles in the plying step.)
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2013 09:42:25 PM »

It definitely makes sense. Thanks Belladune! My only worry was that when I began spinning, I had yarns that still twisted on itself even after a bath (not sure if it was because I didn't thwack it enough).

Oh, and always give the singles extra twist with any fibre, because you down twist them as you ply (some of the twist is removed from the singles in the plying step.)

Definitely keeping this in mind, because when I release the singles so they kink, I can see those thick parts that can pull apart easy.

Didn't know it was a short fiber. Just thought it wasn't a uniform fiber like wool. lol I have no idea what it is. I'm just like "you're soft, I'm gonna spin you so hard."
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2013 05:52:14 AM »

The twist will happen if it's un balanced. And you could be over spinning the singles and under plying too, which would give you an off balance skien. Theres a whole whack of math to figure how to get a balanced skien,  but that's a whole other story.....

As to the parts that pull apart, and this was tricky to get the hang of, if you go back to those places and pinch the fibre on either side just in the thin spots, you can tweak it, and redraft that part, allowing twist to accumulate there too. Twist setttles in the thin parts, but if you smooth out the thick parts, it will travel in.
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I'm just like "you're soft, I'm gonna spin you so hard."

 LMAO.  that's awesome. I love you just for that.  made me laugh first thing this morning. Thank you!
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