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« on: July 11, 2013 04:54:30 AM »

Recently returned to Craftster after a looooong hiatus so I apologize in advance for being a newb and likely not looking hard enough for an answer to my question.

Am using a basic lip balm recipe of 1 pt beeswax, 2 pts cocoa butter, and 1 pt apricot kernal oil which works just fine for filling balm tubes.  Am wanting to add some honey into the mix (for humectant purposes and to soften the base up just a smidgen) and I know it can't be added while the base is piping hot as it separates.  Tried letting the base cool a bit and though the honey seemed to mix in just fine I was left scooping the semi-soft product out and very quickly pasting it into a slider tin like I was spreading cheese on a cracker.  Now, that can't be right, can it?

To note this was a small test batch containing 2 tsp beeswax, 4 tsp cocoa butter, 2 tsp oil, and about 1.5 tsp processed honey.  The final consistency was right on target; not as hard as my usual balm, not soft enough to be a butter.  The issue is when and how to mix the honey so I can get the stuff out of the pot and into the tin or tube.  Any tips or tricks would be GREATLY appreciated!   (Oh, and FYI, I am at what is considered high altitude which definitely seems to make a difference with cooking everything.)   

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013 10:34:49 AM »

Sorry, I don't have any tips for you, I gave up on trying to add honey to my lip balms a long time ago!
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013 02:49:45 PM »

That's actually sort of helpful, believe it or not.  Means I'm not alone in thinking it may not be worthwhile!   Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013 03:04:34 PM »

Cheesy It sounds like you might already know this, but since honey is water soluble/dispersible, then it is going to be really hard to get it to stay suspended/dissolved in an oil/wax base. I had a couple batches where the honey kind of beaded on the top after it was made and set up, and that kind of made me move on to other things. I know some people manage to do it, but not me. Castor oil is my "secret" ingredient in lip balms, it's kind of a similar viscosity to honey.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013 03:11:13 AM »

MareMare, if you don't terribly mind, I think I will be stealing your 'secret' when I place my next materials order.  Thank you!
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013 10:54:37 AM »

Of course! I just use a little, maybe 5-10%? And sometimes you can actually find it at the drugstore too (laxative section).
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013 05:20:18 AM »

Castor oil is the best in lipbalms, great secret ingredient indeed!:D

About the honey, I sometimes warm the honey a little (about 5-10 min on low heat) before using it in the balm. Honey contains about 20% water, so you could always try to get rid of some of it before using. When done, add a small amount of the honey in the end, when the oils are almost cool and hard, and stir frequently.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014 09:10:08 PM »

I tried once, my first and last lip balm about a year ago lol. I know in cosmetics certain ingredients, like titanium dioxide, you have to kind of sneak it in with what it's soluable in, like if you had oil titanium you'd  mix it in with the oil then add to the rest. Not sure what you could do in lip balm. I gave up too. I remember reading tips so where, but can't recall what they were. I'd think the heating would work and I actually think that the original recipe said something about keeping it at a warm enough temp, but while it set up was where mine went wrong I think, or maybe not stirring right before and while pouring?
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