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« on: June 18, 2013 10:22:47 AM »

I've been looking at lotion and lip balm recipes lately and almost all of them call for vitamin e....does it really have that many miraculous superpowers? I notice some people refer to it for a preservative (Which I know isn't a good idea to assume that).

I'm guessing that recipes with beeswax, coconut oil, olive oil, etc would already be rich with moisturizing properties. Does Vitamin e just give it oomph or is it like that little "key" ingredient that brings it all together??
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013 01:45:20 PM »

It's not a preservative, it's an antioxidant, which is different. Antioxidants extend the shelf life of oils (cause them not to go rancid as quickly), while preservatives inhibit the growth of mold/bacteria/icky stuff. Just for the antioxidant properties alone I always include Vitamin E in lotions, but it's also just good for your skin. You can buy it in oil form (look for Tocopherol Acetate) or just buy the vitamin ones in caplets and pop a few caplets to squeeze in per batch of lotion.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013 08:00:55 AM »

Thanks MareMare! Went to cvs and they had bogo on vitamins...Woot!

Just waiting for my other supplies to show up in the mail today Grin
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013 08:03:29 AM »

Awesome! What's your first project going to be?
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013 08:14:49 AM »

I found this blog/recipe to start with lotion. I like the one she has for lip balm, but I'm having a heck of a time finding cocoa butter where its not going to kill me on shipping and everything I find locally is cocoa butter mixed with other stuff, including alcohol Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013 08:51:59 AM »

Hmm, have you tried these guys? They are in your state, might be cheaper shipping.

http://www.olivetreesoaps.com/catalog/suppliesbutters-c-1_2.html?osCsid=5d29c80fa190dc68ce5716a9816659d5

Also, this list has suppliers by state:
http://www.suppliersbystate.com/state-listings.php
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013 10:02:31 AM »

Believe it or not, their shipping is almost double what other places are. I'm going to try a beauty supply store and a health store tonight to see if I can find it. If not, I'll wait til WSP has it back in stock or just suck it up and pay the shipping. Worse case scenario is WSP and Bulk Apothecary are only a few hours away and I can use it as an excuse to visit friends.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013 10:07:50 AM »

Ugh, I hate when places rip you off on shipping! I like Soaper's Choice/Columbus Oil if you're buying a lot...I usually get 10 lbs of cocoa butter and 10 lbs of shea butter at a time, it knocks the price down super cheap, like $3.50 a pound or something,
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2013 10:58:10 AM »

$5-6 for cocoa butter but $12-18(?!?!) for shipping *scratches head*. I don't want to load up too much on supplies. I've got such bad crafting ADD lately that I don't want to build up a stock for one craft only to turn around and start something else in a week. I just finally finished potholders that I started in December Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2013 01:21:46 PM »

Wow, that's awful! I know what you mean, I'm currently downsizing some of my craft supplies for crafts I don't do much anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2013 04:04:12 PM »

I FOUND IT!!!! *Happy Dance*

Sally's beauty supply, 1 oz tube for 2$....plenty to make a small batch of lip balm with some left over.

Now to try to not be annoyed because the one supplier shipped my beeswax to my parents house instead of my own *sigh*
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2013 05:36:45 PM »

Awesome! On the cocoa butter, not so much on the shipping issues.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2013 09:15:03 AM »

Eh, what can you do. On one hand I am going to see them this weekend so I'll be able to get the materials. On the other, it killed my "Happy to leave work and do something fun" vibe.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013 07:50:38 AM »

So I made the body butter (a tiny batch just to start) and while I'm loving the after effects, for me its quite greasy, which I get taking the ingredients into consideration. But is there a way to cut it back some? Can I halve the amount of oils? Original recipe is here

1/4 c. olive oil (Originally called for 1/2 c olive oil, but I divided it with the fractionated coconut oil)
1/4 c. coconut oil (fractionated)
1/4 c. aloe butter (aloe and coconut oil From WSP, in place of coconut oil)
1/4 c. beeswax
1/4 t. Vitamin E oil


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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013 11:31:28 AM »

Body butters tend to be greasy just because of their ingredients, I'm not sure that cutting back on the oils would change anything, other than making it stiffer (if you aren't cutting back on the beeswax as well). Some people have been able to lessen the greasies by adding a bit of cornstarch, or an ingredient that is meant to help (which I'm blanking on the name...something like natrasorb? Something -sorb?)

I still like body butters for super dry feet or a moisture treatment occasionally, but if you're looking more for an everyday use moisturizer you might want to try a lotion with a water phase and an oil phase, you probably have all the ingredients now and it's easier than it sounds!
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2013 11:51:38 AM »

Thanks MareMare! Thinking about it and I realized that a) I probably used too much to put on my skin and b) my skin gets super dry in the winter (snow in Buffalo is hell on the complexion!), so I'd say the recipe is still a winner. But I'll look into lighter alternatives for the summer months. I just get tired of buying lotions! And since I'm now known as the "Amish Hippie" Huh around the office, I guess I have to live up to the title!
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2013 10:11:31 PM »

I think you might like lotion bars better than than a body butter. It is more solid and you can put it in push up tubes and just dab/rub it where you need it without getting it on your hands.  I have dry skin in the winter and especially on my hands so I put some in lip balm tubes and carry in my pocket and just use on my my cuticles and dry areas after washing my hands. I wash them a lot at work and this really helps to keep down the cracked dry skin.  I know there are plenty of recipes on the internet so I won't bother posting one. lol  I actually buy a base as I'm to lazy to do the work so all I have to do is melt and pour.  Grin



Dryflo is great for cutting the grease in body butters.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2013 06:24:20 AM »

Thanks Lique, I realized a large part of the problem was I initially used it when it was still too warm, so I ended up using waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. I was asked by a co-worker that's a hardcore runner if I could make some sort of lotion bar in tube form, so I'll definitely give that a try! Grin
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2013 07:29:50 PM »

Oh it would be great for a runner.  My co worker did the 2-3 day Cancer walk and used a lotion bar for his feet each day and  it kept his heels baby soft and no blisters.
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