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« on: December 26, 2012 05:37:51 AM »

Even though I haven't swapped much, I noticed something that really bumms me lots of times when I open a package from a pet/smoking home: A strong stink of smoke, and/or lots of pet hair

I'm not allergic to anything, and these things usually don't bother me, but that doesn't mean I don't deserve a nice clean package... It's very dissappointing, and make the item feel cheap and less thoughtful (and I know how much work goes into it) when it smells bad, or filled with enough pet hair to make a carpet ..

I have a (new Grin) pet, and I know I'm gonna make sure every package I send is washed and cleaned of pet hair, and that my dog won't have the chance to sit on/next to it.

It's just food for thought for all the other pet owners and the smoking people  Smiley I've also been wondering if others have ran into this situation
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012 10:39:27 PM »

If you have a sensitivity or aversion to smoke or anything like that, even if it is not an outright allergy, then you may want to put that in your profile/questionnaire.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013 09:59:16 AM »

I have!  And I do put in my profile that I have an aversion to smoke smell, and I have only gotten one package (quilt squares) out of many swaps where it just reeked.  Luckily, with fabric, some washing takes care of that problem.  But obviously, someone who smokes is going to be less sensitive to smoke smell than us non-smokers, so they may not have thought it smelled. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2013 01:59:57 PM »

It is hard to tell when things smell like smoke if you're a smoker. I'm not one, but I live with smokers and all but three of my friends smoke. And I flat out CAN'T smell it. But apparently back in high school a bunch of people thought I smoked, because I smelled like smoke :/ I couldn't smell it back then and I still can't (from being around it since birth I guess). So yeah, even with taking care, the smell from a smoker will be there I'm betting. It may be best to put down that you're allergic to smoke if it really dose bother.
As for pets, well I"m guilty of puppy hair getting into things. Even if I haven't see it, I'm sure of it. And I've gotten pet fur before. It's kind of struck me as funny that other crafters pets are saying hello too lol. Never had a bad experience, like a package smelling like wet dog Tongue I guess it varies from person. Like they say, if in doubt, best to spit it out! Just say something if it bothers you or you're worried about it ruining your swapping fun Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2013 04:02:01 PM »

I would also consider this problem that the original poster stated from a different perspective.  I would hope that people who smoke are also aware that it leaves an odor on things.  I would also hope that pet owners realize that their pets may have odors as well, and may shed.

Therefore, the THOUGHTFUL thing to do would be to wash the items, or keep them away from the smoke and pets, before sending!

I HAVE swapped with one person on Craftster who smokes AND has pets, and her items are in 100%, A-OK condition when I receive them.  I really do truly think it's about being thoughtful and mindful of what you would want to receive yourself.

I always mention that I would rather not swap with people who smoke or have smokers in his/her home, and that if he/she has pets, to please keep the pet away from the craft and supplies.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013 11:55:11 AM »

If it's to much of a problem to you then follow the others suggestions of putting it as an allergy. I don't smoke and I don't allow my cat in my craft room since that's where my birds are so I don't have to worry to much about sending off pet hair. I don't think the smell of smoke or some pet hair diminishes the value of the items but instead increases it. That shows that that person was working hard at home making something one of a kind just for you and some pet hair or smoke that can be washed away shouldn't make it any less special. But that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013 02:05:14 PM »

I do not see cat hair and smoke as an asset, seeing I'm seriously allergic to both.  It's actually cat dander that I'm allergic to, not hair.  Both make me sneeze, wheeze, cough, my skin itch, and make my eyes red, watery, itchy and swell shut.  I try my best to keep my dogs' hair off of my finished crafted projects.  My dogs and my rabbit are not allowed in my craft room.  I always state that I'm allergic to smoke to cat hair/dander.  But, I've swapped w/someone who has a family member that smokes and has a cat.  She has always done a good job of keeping both away from her finished crafted items.  So I say, if you are allergic to such things, you need to say so in your questionnaires. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013 12:30:57 AM »

I am a smoker in a household where everyone smokes, and I have a cat.  I don't allow the cat near my crafting, and I wash everything prior to sending, and dry it away from smoking areas.  Of course, being a smoker myself, I can't tell if a thing is smoky, but I haven't had any complaints.  I try not to claim anyone allergic to smoke though.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013 11:11:42 PM »

I'm allergic to cats and smoke. I usually only put down smoke, since you can remove pet hair from most things, but smoke is harder to remove. I do feel that it's disrespectful to send something that is dirty, which it is if it's covered in hair. I have a dog and hair gets on stuff, but not a lot unless he is in direct contact with it. Which I will not allow to happen, out of respect for my swap partner. Usually though I do not think pets are a problem, since most partners are respectful in that matter, I think you might of had just a one off experience. Smoke is harder to gauge, that's why I just say no smokers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2013 05:59:07 PM »

I have two long haired black cats and two dogs both of whom moult all year long, my Labrador moults like you would not believe. Everything in our house is covered in hair. I am not lucky enough to have a craft room, so I craft either on the settee or at the kitchen table it is impossible for me to keep hair off my crafts. Before packing everything I now do my best to get hairs off but I am sure I do not manage to get it all and it worries me every time I swap!
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2014 07:11:11 PM »

I smoke (on and off) and I myself cannot stand the strong smell of smoke. I only smoke outside few times a week and I can honestly say that the smell of my jacket turns my stomach - it gets washed a lot. I only got one package that reeked of smoke, it was terrible and I smoke. I can only imagine what would that do to a non smoker or a baby etc.

I put down that I smoke on my questionnaires even though, technically the smoke would never get anywhere my craft stuff because I don't smoke everyday and because the smell bothers me myself so I tend to change my clothes right after I smoke - how did I not quit yet is beyond me.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2014 06:17:40 PM »

I haven't had any issues with receiving things with pet hair on them - I feel that craftsters are really careful about that.  However, I am allergic to smoke and put that on my questionnaires. 

When I'm pairing swappers, if anyone puts on their questionnaire that they prefer not to be paired with a smoker and someone says they smoke only outside - I still won't pair them.  You just never know.  It never hurts to put it on there. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014 05:03:43 PM »

Everything I make contains a great deal of cat hair.   Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014 01:45:12 PM »

When I started swapping I said that I'd rather not be paired with a smoker, but I've actually stopped doing that. I feel I might miss awesome crafts from swappers who do smoke... And most don't seem to craft while smoking/smoke in the craft room so I've never received a super-smelly package.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014 08:41:18 PM »

Though I try to make sure my stuff is (mostly) dog-hair free, my dog sheds a lot and when you're knitting or crocheting, a certain amount almost certainly gets stuck in there.  I always put on my questionnaire that there WILL be dog hair.  I should probably also put that, since I have waist-length hair myself, at least a piece or two is probably knit/crocheted into everything I do, even though I try really really hard to catch any that gets caught and pull it out.  And even if you wash it, it's stuck in there.  With some projects it's not so much an issue, with others...

(I sent my dad Tetris Afghan 1.0 and he spent an entire weekend picking my and my dog's hair out of it - of course, I wasn't careful with that one because 1) it was huge and crocheted during the Ravalympics - so in a hurry, and 2) I knew it was going to him.  Oddly, the dog hair was a lot less of an issue because he could pull that right out, my hair, on the other hand, was quite firmly crocheted in!)

Ludi, I'm disappointed, I don't think I received and cat hair from you.  I demand a do-over!  ;p
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014 03:18:31 AM »

My mama smokes still, she just got back from Egypt(looking like the last time finally!!), but she's never anywhere near my crafting area...We've also got a little palm and chihauhau mix who's also never on my level of the house (I'm a basement dwelling crafter haha!!) I'm really careful to package anything I'm shipping down in my room so its stays free of everything.

 Me personally, I've got asthma, so smoke does bother me...but with a mom whose smoked for as long as I can remember, and aunt that smoked (hell half my family smoked, kind of amazing that I never did ha ha!!), but stuff that smells of smoke doesnt really bother me, its either washable or I can hang it out on the clothes line to air out. (I've found nothing gets the smell of smoke out best than that cold winter air!)

Ofc to each his/her own, we all have our preferences and ocd issues...we wouldnt be crafter's after all if we werent a little persnickity =P
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2014 05:05:48 AM »

Heh... I guess I should start warning for human hairs too. My hair is short, but I still manage to knit/crochet it in at times.

I knit or crochet on the go at times, but I try to wash the item before finishing it if it's supposed to be worn or if it's going to a child. There's all kinds of allergens on the subway and busses.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014 07:55:41 AM »

I'm sure my hair finds it's way into something I make, or at least into the packing tape.  My hair is all the way down my back.  I try to keep it tied back.  But, sometimes, my hair scrunchy slips off.  My hair is fine, not thick.  Because I am allergic to smoke and cat dander, I absolutely cannot have it in/on the crafted items I receive.  That being said, I have swapped w/both people who smoke and/or have cats.  I've never had a problem w/it.  I think we all try to be conscientious when it comes to our swapping partners.  I know I do. 
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2014 03:13:16 PM »

We have seasonal woodland burns that fill the entire house with lingering smoke smell. Sometimes it is nice like a campfire and sometimes it isn't. I put small items in a plastic bag with carefully placed baking soda. You can sew the baking soda into a pomander to contain it. Seal the bag and put it in the freezer. Usually takes a week, maybe two. A vinegar and water wipe is good for solid surfaces.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2015 10:08:40 AM »

I used to put "prefer no smoke" on questionnaires, but have stopped doing it because, as was said earlier, I don't want to miss out on something awesome, just because someone might smoke!  Also, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings (especially knowing that a lot of smokers are careful), and I want to make sure I'm doing my part to help the pairing process, as there are people who are actually allergic, and I'm hearty as all heck.

As for cats, they sit on everything. I set out black clothes for a performance and five minutes later I have to clean off fur. I try really hard to not let my cats near crafts, but they're shifty, and I'm not perfect, so I'm sure a few hairs get in.

Also, what do you guys have on incense?  I don't usually burn incense near my crafts (especially those for swaps), but I know sometimes my husband comes in the house and can smell incense even though I haven't burned any in a while (and I can't really smell it).  How does that smell over the postal waves?
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015 12:32:42 PM »

Cat dander is a major allergy for me.  It's not as bad as it was when I was little, but, it's still pretty bad.  I understand that cats are shifty.  My husband's Pomeranian can be sneaky.  But, really do try my best to keep all dog hair off of my finished crafted items.  Cat dander still makes me sneeze, wheeze, cough, and itchy.  My eyes still get red, itchy, watery, and puffy.  I get pretty miserable.

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2015 07:41:48 AM »

Yeah - cat dander has worsened over the years for me.  I used to never be allergic to cats at all, until I had a really severe bronchial infection.  My lungs were really hypersensitive, and I guess that because of my exposure to the cats at that time, at Jim's mom's house (she had like 6 or more at the time, living there), I became allergic.  It just went downhill from there.  I can start getting symptoms just from hugging my friend and he has some of his cats fur/dander on his coat.  Or even sitting on MIL's sofa, even a couple of years after the last cat was gone - even with her manic OCD cleaning.  I was so so so happy when they bought a new sofa... then she went and brought home 5 new cats within a couple of months after that - wah!!!!!

I try very hard to keep dog fur out of my crafting, but fur seems to get into the smallest nooks and crannies.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2015 01:18:03 PM »

I'm allergic to everything...
I think there's a big difference between "sensitivity" and "allergy"
For example, I'm sensitive to some perfumes and just get stuffed up, but others will make my throat start to close up.
I often tell friends the story of having a fake bone glued to my arm for a lifeguard course, and found out there was perfume in the eyelash glue when I went to wash off the fake blood and there was a huge rash spreading across my arm. So I say I'm allergic to all scents, because the latter reaction is more likely.

Some people are allergic to some cats or dogs and not others, while some are allergic to All The Pets!

I think the takeaway is for both parties to clarify with their swap partner if it's an allergy or sensitivity. Communication is a beautiful thing!
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2015 08:38:05 PM »

I've got a Harper*, so there is lots of dog hair in the house. I always mention in my questionnaires that I have dog allergens, but I'm very used to not wanting to leave the house covered in dog hair, and I certainly don't want to send a package off covered in dog hair. I hope that it doesn't limit my crafting world (I want ALL the crafts from ALL the people), but I totally understand if it does. A package will lose its luster if the receiver feels miserable! I think the pet/non-pet owning world coincides with the crafting world often enough for us all to be happy.

(This is a Harper- aka 100 lbs of Great Pyrenees lovin', if you get her hair you get a piece of that love!)
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Bow - Harper is a beautiful dog!

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 Me personally, I've got asthma, so smoke does bother me...but with a mom whose smoked for as long as I can remember, and aunt that smoked (hell half my family smoked, kind of amazing that I never did ha ha!!), but stuff that smells of smoke doesnt really bother me, its either washable or I can hang it out on the clothes line to air out. (I've found nothing gets the smell of smoke out best than that cold winter air!)
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This could be why you have asthma. My father was a smoker, my mother had asthma and so do I. Cigarette smoke is an asthma trigger for me. I have put on my questionnaires that I prefer not to swap with a smoker. I realize smoking does not mean I could get a smoky item but I'd rather not take the chance because I know how people who smoke a lot don't realize how much it can permeate their belongings.

That said, I have cats and birds and state it on my swap form. The birds are never around my crafting but the cats ... the more you try to keep them away the more they want to get in your way. I am still finding beads and sequins all over the floor from the times they have "helped" me. But whenever I set something down I set it inside a plastic storage box to minimize cat exposure. Then I use tape to de-fur before I send the item. The last thing I sent I kept removing hairs and wondered how there were so many on it and then I realized they were strands of the stuffing.

I think as long as everyone communicates their issues, as someone else said, it should be good. I think the ones that send smoky items or boxes of pet hair are more likely to be the exceptions rather than the rule.
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2015 06:17:57 AM »

This thread makes me realize that sometimes in my excitement to make things for my partners, I am not as careful as I could be...I bet a few of you have received yarn items with some hair inadvertently knitted or crocheted in, be it human or pet.  I don't smoke, but sometimes I do burn candles and incense in my house, or maybe burn food I forgot about...sorry...

I am going to be more conscientious, but I can't guarantee that I would even see the hair, so please please...if you are allergic, let me know...I don't think I am thoughtless, just not a very neat person who lives with a not very neat guy and some very independent cats and one big lazy dog! Grin
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