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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012 10:03:04 AM »

Thanks again Harlan for the great tips and book info! I guess I will need more practice to digest all these  Wink

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When just starting most needle felters work on a foam pad - that's fine for starting out, but it is not the best work surface (a Clover brush mat is).
I have the clover brush mat and I'm not sure if I like it. When I roll my object over, I feel like the wool is sticking with the brush so it becomes a bit more fuzzy. Not sure if the same will happen with foam pad? Also I like to make tine tiny stuff, so when the piece is too small (like the ears or thin legs), they fall between the brush strand after a few stabs. So I'm considering to buy a small foam pad for tiny pieces. But I can see the brush would be very handy in felting a pattern on a sheet.

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We all bleed when we're first learning and I still jab myself now and then (not like the early days though)! lol!!
Well, that's good news and bad news... I already got jabbed quite a few times, so glad to know I'm not the only one! But I was hoping it will stop when I'm experienced... Oh well, let's see. Anyway, at least being jabbed by a felting needle is not as bad as by a stitching needle  Grin

PS: Craftylittlemonkey, your gnome is cute! Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2012 10:17:11 AM »

If I could see it in person, I could probably tell! lol!! Merino is very fine and has very long strands - 6" is common.

Were you winding long fibers around your pipe cleaner armature??

Long and fine fibers are harder to felt. You can get great detail with fibers such as Merino but you need to shorten the length and card it (wire dog brushes work great for this). Winding fiber neatly around an armature can present a nice finished appearance, but to really felt it well that parallel alignment needs to be broken and the fibers need to needled together. That can be done with just a lot of needling. The needles do break the fibers and force them together, but it is a lot of work.

If you have some of the fiber left and have a couple of wire dog brushes around - try this:
cut the fiber into 1- 1.5" lengths and then card it with the wire dog brushes. You'll end up with a mess of fiber (messy fiber is half way to felted fiber). Felt that into some shape and then try sculpting it with your needles - you should find that it is a lot easier.

You start felting details while the piece is larger than you want the finished piece to be!



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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2012 10:44:32 AM »

Yingying -

Cover you Clover Brush mat with some flannel!! - The bristles will grab fibers if you don't! The flannel makes all the difference!! You will need to replace the flannel from time to time and it is a good habit to just lift the flannel up off the bristles after doing a lot of needling to prevent the flannel from getting stuck in the bristles. I like to use a neutral grey flannel. It makes seeing my colors so much easier.

The reason that the brush mat is better is it doesn't "give" when you poke your fiber with a needle. You're not getting the bounce that you get when you work on a foam pad. It's easier on the hands and wrists. It makes all the needling more effective!

I started out on foam pads when I was first learning to needle felt. I found the clover brush mat something like 6-8 months after I started and I won't ever felt on a foam pad again. I've been using the same brush mat for 5 years now and I had to replace the pad I used when I started several times within those 6-8 months.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012 11:06:26 AM »

Thank you thank you for the tip! Now you saved my brush and the extra bucks I was planning to spend on foam  Grin How come they don't print this tip on the clover brush package! Going off to cut my dad's shirt now  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2012 11:11:32 AM »

I don't know why they do not tell people to do this - I may have the opportunity to find out!

The brush mat seems primarily marketed with the idea of needling a flat design on some other flat fabric/sweater etc. but I know that they also sell accessories for it for creating three dimensional roses (I have their rose mold). It's such a simple solution and makes a world of difference!!
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2012 12:43:41 PM »

Yes Harlan Thanks so much!  I have never heard that about the flannel.  You would think they would want folks to be successful with their tools.  And the fuzzies is why I quit needle felting for a bit.  But this lovely chat is making me think about picking it up again.

Say, do you use one needle or a group of needles?  I have a tut from Craft mag and they tell you how to make a tool with a bunch of needles in it.  Is that only usefull if your doing bigger things?  Or perhaps flat things?  i don't want to make it if it doesn't suit my "style" (what ever that may be Grin)
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2012 12:57:08 PM »

I use multiple needle tools (that I've made) all the time. Depends on the tool. A lot of the multiple needle tools currently on the market are primarily (if not exclusively) meant for flat felting. Those aren't always useful for sculptural needle felting. A good tool should have more than one purpose, should allow you to change the needles should one break and should be comfortable in the hands/fingers.

I also use single needles - depends on the task at hand.

I just went googling:
If the tutorial you're talking about is the wooden dowel/screw/needles in a circle type tool - I personally don't find those very useful for sculptural needle felting.

They would work alright on very large projects, but for sculpting fine details and for finishing a piece they wouldn't be of great help.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012 01:25:06 PM »

heheh....felted tattoos *snort*

The tool I have instructions for (som..e..wh...ere...) is basically a wooden disc with a lip and holes drilled in it for the needles, and a screw going up to screw some kind of a wooden doodad (think end of a curtain rod type thingy) down onto the disc, so you can open and change out the needles.  Maybe an hours worth of work Grin
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2012 01:39:49 PM »

OMG could you even Do that?!  Tongue

I don't think so...unless you where using some sort of inert material.  Such a chance of infection *shudder*.  But the traditional form of tattooing with a needle and a stick is very close to felting.  The ink is on the surface and it gets pushed in.  Now the needles inject ink under the skin...or at least that is how I understand it Grin
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2012 01:58:44 PM »

Uuuhhhh. You are not making me feel better about having to have my tat worked on. *lil' dizzy*

Oppsy! *sits you down, gives you a cool drink of water and pats your hand*
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