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« on: April 13, 2012 03:51:23 PM »

So I recently bought myself a precious metal clay starter kit (from Firemountain Gems if you're curious) and I also bought myself a book (this one) to get some total newbie ideas. I haven't played with it yet because honestly, I'm nervous but I'm also excited.

In the book, they have a few ring projects. Some you make the band yourself but another uses regular jewelry wire as the band and then you build on top of it to make the center focal point. Then today I found these ready made rings and thought they might make an even better "base" for PMC/Art Clay than wire. I'm guessing that if you can add metal clay to wire, then you should be able to add it to a ready made sterling silver band, right?

This is where I thought I'd check with anyone who knows more about it than I do. Seems to me it would be really convenient to buy the ready-made ring band and then either work around the loop on it or cut it off and just build up some clay on it to embed a focal stone or whatever. Does that make sense? Will the metal clay successfully bond with the ring band when it's fired?

I'm still a total n00b and would appreciate some thoughts! Thanks! Grin
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2012 08:56:45 PM »

It's possible to buy fine silver rings to attach clay to. You can see them here: http://www.palmermetals.co.uk/shop/precious-metal-clay/metal-clay-findings/fine-silver-ring-liners-and-bands.html. This was the first supplier I found on Google, I don't know anything about them at all. These bands are made to use with PMC.

I have a PMC kit but I'm yet to actually make anything with it, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I'm pretty sure it's completely possible.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2012 09:58:39 AM »

As long as the metal blanks you buy (and any coatings they may have on them) won't be damaged by the high-temps you need for firing metal clays, they should be fine to fire together.

You might want to check some of the info at some of the sites for PMC and Art Clay to see what they say though (or join one of the groups to be able to ask specifically).  There are some links for them on this page of my site:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/Characteristics.htm (click on Metal Clays almost at bottom of list)
Or just google either brand.

As for metal clay "bonding" with metal rings/wire/etc, I don't think they'll actually chemically-adhesively bond, but if there's a mechanical hold on some part of the metal the clay is contacting the clay should stay attached that way.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2012 02:21:54 PM »

It's possible to buy fine silver rings to attach clay to. You can see them here: http://www.palmermetals.co.uk/shop/precious-metal-clay/metal-clay-findings/fine-silver-ring-liners-and-bands.html. This was the first supplier I found on Google, I don't know anything about them at all. These bands are made to use with PMC.

I have a PMC kit but I'm yet to actually make anything with it, so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I'm pretty sure it's completely possible.
Ah neat. Those are quite a bit expensive (being in pounds rather than dollars) but it's cool to know they make something specifically for PMC like that. It seemed likely that you could do it but I would hate to waste metal clay trying since it too is not cheap. Thanks!

As long as the metal blanks you buy (and any coatings they may have on them) won't be damaged by the high-temps you need for firing metal clays, they should be fine to fire together.

You might want to check some of the info at some of the sites for PMC and Art Clay to see what they say though (or join one of the groups to be able to ask specifically).  There are some links for them on this page of my site:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/Characteristics.htm (click on Metal Clays almost at bottom of list)
Or just google either brand.

As for metal clay "bonding" with metal rings/wire/etc, I don't think they'll actually chemically-adhesively bond, but if there's a mechanical hold on some part of the metal the clay is contacting the clay should stay attached that way.

Awesome, thanks! I looked around for some metal clay groups but wasn't finding many that seemed overly active or current. Which is why I wound up trying to ask my question here instead.

Thanks for the link, I'll check that out too.

And for "bonding" yeah, I guess that isn't technically the right term but then again, I'm still so new at this I haven't even opened the package yet. LOL I really meant more "will this stay stuck to that" than bonding specifically on a molecular level. Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012 06:22:16 AM »

In would be curious to know if any bonding between the PMC and ring is possible, any chance you could do a test piece and report on the results? I'm thinking if you fluxed it, you *might* get that chemical bond.
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