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« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2012 09:56:04 AM »

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. . . I first make silicon molds for them and then make the cameos in thousands of colour combinations -
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. . . I usually make the base cameo first, then add the motive, make the mold and after that fill the mold with the colours I want - so I basically need to fix the base and then make a new mold for them ^^

Nice cameos! and love seeing clayers making molds...just too much fun  Grin Grin.

I'm a little confused about your method though, but a lot of that has to do with terminology and lots of people use different words for various parts.  So, here are definitions I'll use in asking questions below about how you made yours so we can make sure we're talking about the same things
...I'll call the metal flat-backed frame cells bezels, since that's basically the function they serve, though the cell walls here are wider and fancier and look like a frame.
...I'll call the background part of the cameo that fills the bezel cup the cameo base, like I think you did (yours are mostly black).
...I'll call the foreground part of the cameo "on top of" the cameo base the cameo motif, like you did (yours are mostly opaque white).
(...the finished cameo in bezel would be a brooch or pin if it has a pinback on the flat back side)
(...a mold, or pushmold in this case, is a concave 3-D shape into which a material is cast...then the final shaped material that's removed from the mold will be called a cast or a pull)
(...a cabochon is a stone/etc that's flat on the back so it can be placed flatly into a bezel or another kind of walled cell --or used in other ways-- rounded on the top and often round or oval)
(...a true cameo is a piece of shell or sometimes rock/agate/glass/resin/etc that has different color(s) at different depths... the background area of a cameo will be ground/carved away and end up showing the deeper-interior color, like translucent peach if using a conch shell;  that leaves an upraised bas relief image that's lighter in color if it's a conch-type shell which will often be partly translucent**)

Okay now . . . so are either of these what you're doing?:

1...forming a cameo base from raw clay that you think will fit into your bezel, and hardening it...then making a pushmold (you used silicone for yours) from that base shape...then pressing new clay into that pushmold, removing, and baking the raw clay
2...making a mold from an existing charm, button, or bit of decoration/etc somewhere...pressing clay into the mold, removing, and baking the raw clay
3...gluing the hardened cameo base into the bezel...then gluing the hardened motif cast onto the cameo base

1. Where you said this above though, it sounds like you're creating a mold from a complete cameo, then filling the bottom-most motif part with white clay and filling the remainder of the cameo mold with the black...then removing and hardening.  Doesn't look like that's what you're doing though since your cameo motifs look quite separate from the cameo bases.

Are you doing either of these, or something else?  If something else, describe it again pretty-please using "my" terminology so I can get my head straight.

Polymer clay faux cameos are usually done in two separate parts, but could be done in the traditional way by carving down into a slab of clay (raw or baked) that has 2 color layers. 
The motif would usually be cast in a mold, though it could be free-formed...then the raw clay motif would be placed on top of a contrasting color raw clay cabochon, or a sheet later cut into a shape and edges rounded  (or either part could be hardened first).
If the whole cameo or just the base needs to fit exactly into a bezel, the raw clay base would usually be shaped then placed into the bezel and pressed on a bit until it reached the sides.  Sometimes it's fiddly to make it fit well without too much pressing (even if figuring out the proper volume of clay that will work and preforming on a template/etc), so a mold might be made from a perfect (hardened) one if the same bezel shape/size would be used often (I think that's what you did?).

There's also a bit  about making faux cameos with polymer clay on my Molds page, as well as antiquing them, bas relief and intaglio stamping, etc, if you're interested:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/molds.htm > Cameos (near bottom)
And the Onlay page and the Carving page would have info about those basic methods too.
(and lots more possibilities in this image search: https://www.google.com/images?q=polymer+clay+cameo )

** these pics show motif casts (from an entire cameo mold) made with all translucent clay and with translucent clay plus a tad of white added which will both appear more opaque in the thicker areas, as well as with totally-opaque white:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/80566480/lady-goddess-skull-cameo-3-mold-lot-hard
http://simplysculpted.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=53
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2012 11:53:45 AM »

Lovely cameos, I really like the flying owl and the bee.
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012 08:20:06 PM »

These r all so amazing! I love them!
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012 12:34:35 AM »


1...forming a cameo base from raw clay that you think will fit into your bezel, and hardening it...then making a pushmold (you used silicone for yours) from that base shape...then pressing new clay into that pushmold, removing, and baking the raw clay
2...making a mold from an existing charm, button, or bit of decoration/etc somewhere...pressing clay into the mold, removing, and baking the raw clay
3...gluing the hardened cameo base into the bezel...then gluing the hardened motif cast onto the cameo base

1. Where you said this above though, it sounds like you're creating a mold from a complete cameo, then filling the bottom-most motif part with white clay and filling the remainder of the cameo mold with the black...then removing and hardening.  Doesn't look like that's what you're doing though since your cameo motifs look quite separate from the cameo bases.

Thank you for your post, that was quite a lot to read ^^

Actually I combine the two ways you described:
I use the first method (making a mold for the cameo base and a different one for the motif, glueing them together to make a cameo) to make the first cameo, but then make a mold of the whole cameo (including the base) which I then fill with two colours to make the finished cameo.
I prefer using a mold for the whole cameo to glueing the motif and base together for the final product.

I hope this makes any sense ^^
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2012 10:44:15 AM »

Aha, yes.  Now I see, you were using two methods but I read your description as one method and couldn't make everything fit together from that and your pics.  Thanks for the clarification!
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