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Bluedolphin
« on: January 10, 2012 08:59:25 AM »

Hi- so I want to make a pendent with this symbol (with or without the circle around it):
http://www.berberosaharan.com/329-215-thickbox/handmade-amazigh-symbol-pendant-from-algeria-ath-yenni.jpg

And I don't know how. I've done some wire wrapping but I don't think I have the right gauge wire, and besides, I'm worried it will fall apart like it did last time I tried.
I don't mind trying soldering, so long as I only have to use a basic solder iron. I thought about soldering copper wire, but I can't buy any copper solder and don't have metal smithing tools anyways (if any one has any suggestions for how to do this?)
I've made stuff by carving wood, but I think that the branches would be too fragile, besides, the wood I use is from fallen branches)

I don't have many specific tools, and no money to buy much, besides, it's hard to find jewelry making stuff here (and I'm 16 with zero pocket money). I thought about soldering copper wire, but I can't buy any copper solder and don't have metal smithing tools anyways. No resin, no fimo either, and I'm not sur I like the look of beads.

So how can I make something nice on a budget? It's for a present, and I don't have much time-till friday maybe?! Any suggestions would help, please!
Help!!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012 09:47:52 AM »

How about fashioning one out of a metallic colored polymer clay? It's simple, quick, cheap, and the only "tools" you'd need you could probably find in your junk drawer (e.g., chop stick, can to roll flat, plastic knife to cut it).

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012 10:27:55 AM »

You could use a polymer clay or an air-dry clay, but you might need to use a wire armature under either clay (although a "strong" band/line of polymer clay could work though be a flexible if pressed).  
Or you could make one with a clay or perhaps even wire, then attach it to a backing of some kind to strengthen and stabilize it (the backing could be the same size/shape or it could extend past the edges and be a framing element.

If you use an air-dry clay and don't want to buy Creative Paperclay, etc,  you can make one from white bread and glue (for finest detail) or make "salt dough" clay:

If you use a polymer clay, the stronger ones would be Kato Polyclay (Hobby Lobby or online), FimoClassic, Premo, or Cernit.  FimoSoft would come next, and the main Sculpeys and others would be brittle after baking when thin, and not take detail as well.

To get the silver color, you could paint air dry clay with virtually any kind of silvery paint or spray paint.
To get the silver color on polymer clay, you could coat any color clay with a real-metal powder (like Mona Lisa), or a mica powder (like Pearl Ex) with a soft brush or finger while raw (and kind of rub it in).
(Just using a metal-colored polymer clay would be difficult since it's not really an even color unless you do certain things to it, and also is more of a satiny-metallic color.)
  
Or you could use a silver "imitation leaf" while raw, or use white glue after baking then let it tack up or lightly dry and press it on.
Or you could use an acrylic metallic paint or "ink" (just no paints with petroleum-solvents in them directly on the clay---or coat with acrylic paint or clear finish first).

You can get more info about  all those things on these pages at my site, and in my answers posts to some previous questions:
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=311310.msg3577220#msg3577220
http://www.glassattic.com/polymer/Faux--many.htm (click on the METAL category, which will also tell you which other pages deal in more depth with the various supplies and techniques)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100621051506AA53JtD
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101204220616AAKtpvt

I don't know much about soldering, etc, but you could ask that question at the Art Jewelry Magazine forums...then scroll down to the one on Making Jewelry and select a sub-forum:
http://cs.jewelrymakingmagazines.com/bajcs/forums/maingroup.aspx?groupid=9
(you'd have to join first to actually ask questions but it's free)

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Bluedolphin
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012 10:29:21 AM »

I cant find any fimo or polymere clay, I live in french suburbs and here you get your drivers licence at 18. The only things I might be able to buy are things like copper from a DIY store, stuff like that.
But thanks for the suggestion.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012 10:30:34 AM »

If you were responding to me, did you notice the clays I mentioned that you could make at home?
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012 10:33:05 AM »

Oh, and the "mica powders" I mentioned are the same as what you'd get in shiny-type eyeshadows, etc, so they could be used instead on polymer clay, or perhaps on air-dry clay (after drying, you'd need to turn them into a "paint" by mixing the powdered stuff into a clear nail polish or any other clear-drying medium, if you don't have any kind of silvery paint.)
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Bluedolphin
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012 10:54:52 AM »

I thought about it, but, well, I sort of want to make something... precious looking? Not gemstone precious, but... natural materials, simple... oh I don't know how to explain...
I know, I'm difficult, sorry ><
But for some reason (totally different method, my brain is strange, lol) reading your post made me think of embedding copper wire in a circle of cherry wood I found in the garden. Still have to figure out how to do that though, and I've no idea...
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2012 11:30:48 AM »

If you want to go with something closer to a wood look, you might try cinnamon dough.  It comes out a lovely brown. 

It's 1/2cup ground cinnamon, 1/2 cup four, and water.   Bake it at 250 degrees for 15-20 minutes per 1/4 inch thickness.
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Bluedolphin
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012 10:45:28 AM »

Uhh, I was thinking about real wood actually. Never mind.

I have another question- how can I finish the wood so the copper doesn't tarnish and the wood is protected from water? What should I use? Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012 07:50:41 AM »

Polyurethane would work well as a sealer for both, and is a tough finish.  
It comes in indoor (water-based) and outdoor versions, as well as Gloss, Semi-Gloss or Satin, and Matte versions (which is sometimes very matte).  A favorite brand of polymer clayers for its extra properties is Varathane, where the indoor/gloss version is used a lot.  
Little more info on it and other polyurethanes on this page if you're interested:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/finishes.htm

Don't know if a wax would work well on the metal.
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