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« Reply #530 on: June 16, 2006 01:25:35 PM »

Now having used SLS containing shampoos since I was a child without knowing, and without any ill-effects, I just don't really get the whole uproar. It's been debated over for a while now. Some say that it's harmless and others say that it can cause a variety of things such as blindness in infants to severe psoriasis and even cancer. Who knows. I'm not scientist...

If it causes blindness, psoriasis and perhaps even cancer (everything causes cancer these days, so even craftster should have a warning on here) why is noone changing the contents of their shampoo's? Sometimes people are all blabla over something that people have been using every day for YEARS, DECADES CENTURIES for all I care, and now it's bad but we don't do anything, no tests, nothing. The conclusion I'm taking is that some funny person decided to say it's bad, or that there are TRACE AMMOUNTS of something bad in it thus making it cancer forming (if you decide to lie in a bath filled with shampoo for a year you might get cancer...and then eat the bath tub.... let's!)
anything is bad for you if you use it the wrong way, but I like my soap sudded cleanliness routine so I'm taking my chances and promise I won't eat, bath in, have kinky sex with or in any other way abuse my shampoo, thus rendering me almost chance of sickness free

on a non rant note, I got a hold of some knottyboy wax and I wasn't much impressed. it was more gooey than the one I have (Let's Dread, yay for vast ammounts of different brands available here, not) and didn't do much for me in the scent department, I like smells, they make me happy.. the wax I have now smells like honey (vaguely) but the shampoo is rank, I'm off to find some neutrogena tomorrow, I'm pretty sure I've seen it in holland once.. fingers crossed!
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« Reply #531 on: June 16, 2006 02:26:02 PM »

Yeah agreed... I definately am not thinking of having kinky sex in a bath full of SLS anytime in the near future.

You know... even the health food store shampoo has Sodium Laureth Sulfate in it...

So you aren't diggin' the Knotty Boy wax. Not the first time I hear this from people... but heh, it is much better than the dreadheadhq stuff I used to use. Those are the only two I've tried and KNotty Boy wins hands down. I'm also pretty happy that it only contains natural ingredients and I really love the smell. What's this Let's Dread stuff you are talking about? Can you order online? I would love to try different kinds just to see what's out there. It's nice to have a variety.  Cheesy


On yet another note........... Home-made dread soap!!!
Does anyone make their own dread bar soap? I would love to make myself some but I really don't know where to start ingredient-wise. Should you go glycerine based? Olive oil based? Animal fat? Now I know that Michaels sells tubs of Clear Glycerin Soap Base, Olive Oil Suspension Soap Base, and White Glycerin Soap Base (with coconut oil). I'm not sure whether the already-made-soap-base or the make-it-from-scratch-soap is the best way to go? I don't know much about bar soap and it's effects on dreadlocks... Any tips would be super helpful to myself and I'm sure many others.  Grin
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« Reply #532 on: June 16, 2006 02:48:45 PM »

kinky sex would be more kinky in the SLS tho... it's a shame

If you want to try the let's dread I'll send you some if we get paired up in the swap, as far as online I don't know where you could get it! but I have heard about it on a random dread site long long ago.. The knottyboy stuff just didn't have much smell to it (in my opinion) maybe because my friend had the dark one, I doubt that makes any difference.

I had to wash my dreads 2 days ago, dirt and such whilst frolicking in the lovely warm sunshine for a change here, and i had no soap left and ended up using an olive soap bar.. it felt good on my dreads to be honest, they look better than with my normal shampoo yet my scalp was more itchy and I think it didn't clean much up there Sad so, i'd also much like to know how to make my own stuff, and one that smells good, pepperminty  Roll Eyes dread stuff is just so damn expencive

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« Reply #533 on: June 16, 2006 03:13:50 PM »

I haven't made one by myself but bought one olive based shampoo bar with rosemary on a craft fair and it works perfectly. k, yet i have normal hair but have really sensitive scalp. I've tried several shampoos even medical stuff, but this is the one that cleans my scalp perfectly. (Now I'm suspecting that I didn't have dandruff but a heavy allergy). Anyway I want to try to make one myself, but I have no idea where to buy Na-Oh or cocoa butter, or Castor oil, or what's the difference between a soap or a shampoo bar.
About SLS and other chemical debates:
I guess we are overusing the chemicals but we overusing it since we were made, like our mothers overused it so I think that's why we are resistant to most of the chemicals. They don't test well these stuff and it can be that some of the are harmful but you can't protect yourself perfectly. The market wants to sell its products so they do everything to convince you to buy one and not to buy the others. I know a guy who works for a science lab, and he is working on an experiment (payed by a tobacco company ) that wants to prove that smoking is not that bad. So how can we judge by that so called studies. I personally try eat/ live healthfully and keep my fingers acrossed that my body will care for the rest.
Anyway life is a STD fatal in 100% of the cases.
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« Reply #534 on: June 16, 2006 04:23:11 PM »

Anyway life is a STD fatal in 100% of the cases.

Hahhaa I love that. Well said Viri.


I posted a topic in discussions in hopes that someone can point us in the right direction for dreadlock soap-making success!
Keep an eye of it folks:
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=16741509.0
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« Reply #535 on: June 16, 2006 04:30:23 PM »

Smiley I just saw that post and was like: hey I should tell her, oh.. it's her own post... damnit!

would people actually know if the soap leaves residue? cause normal soap making doesnt have to take non residue leaving into consideration, right?
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« Reply #536 on: June 16, 2006 09:59:26 PM »

I'm not too sure... I did mention the non-residue thing and a link to knottyboy's soap bar as well as things that I definately know I have to stay away from. Hopefully this is enough.

I think I may actually go onto knottylocks and post this... bah...
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« Reply #537 on: June 17, 2006 02:59:36 AM »

well.. they do sell neutrogena here, but not the Anti-Residue Shampoo.. I can order it online for $5 and then spend up to $45 for shipping... I'll pass!!!  Angry

I read somewhere on knottylocks that someone used the tea tree shampoo from the bodyshop
Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Disodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate, Cocamide DEA, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Fragrance, Piroctone Olamine, Phenoxyethanol, Citric Acid, Thymus Vulgairs (Thyme) Oil, Benzoic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia (Tea Tree) Leaf Oil, Polyquaternium-7, Honey, Leptospemium Scoparium (Manuka) Oil, PEG-120 Methyl Glucose Dioleate, Disodium EDTA
mmmmm long list of stuff, has SLS...

or even lactacyd (vagina soap emulsion) on dreads.. funny, I have some of that, might give it a go, costs next to nothing and it's for sensitive area's so it should be residue free

there has got to be some good soap stuff out there that wont cost an arm and a leg!

and daiconharuko, congrats on getting your locks!


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Finally found someone via via via friends!
but wow are the prices for knotty boy and dreadhead stuff different!
475ml bottle of knottyboy is 24 and 470ml bottle of dreadhead is 12...
I'd really like to try the knottyboy stuff, but the 12 is very tempting.. I see how dreadhead gets customers.. even if their products aren't all natural like knotty boys
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« Reply #538 on: June 17, 2006 06:50:36 AM »

daiconharuko :
Yeah I don't think it causes cancer... I just read it a long time ago in some huge debate thing about SLS.

Also congrats on your locks! Forgot to mention it earlier!  Grin

Fckadog :
I reluctantly posted a thread on knottylocks to see if someone will answer. Hopefully I don't get the "Why don't you just wash with peanut butter" type of replies. If I get anything useful I'll defintately report back to this thread! I think we can all benefit from learning how to make our own soap.  Wink
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« Reply #539 on: June 17, 2006 08:31:56 AM »

i put in 2 dreads this morning just for the fun of it. i want to get dreads this summer! maybe after senior pictures. are they supposed to be light and airy and see-through? cause that's what mine look like. (I can't post pics) I'll have to take them out before I go to work tonight, but hopefully by the end of the summer I'll have my whole head done!
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