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kimchery
« on: November 03, 2011 09:28:50 AM »

I have heard of the elusive future sealer (sold in cleaning supplies) and have wanted to try it for a long time on polymer clay.  I looked for it once a few years ago, gave up, and about a week ago, I was in it for the hunt.  I looked all over town for it, then came home and searched the web.  I found out that it no longer exists as just 'future' the product, but now rather it is pledge floor care with future shine.  I got this from the SCJohnson website.  I even knew what the bottle looked like.  Went shopping again.  I found it, but was discouraged to see they made different formulas for wood and vinyl floors.  So I didn't get it.  I came home and researched a bit more, didn't find any sources that said to use one or the other, so I went back and got the wood formula, since I thought that would have been considered the original formula.  I don't think I got the right one....  I was hunting around and came across someone's blog video where they have a bottle of future, the vinyl formula, sitting on the counter as they were working with polymer clay.  They did mention the future, so I'm pretty sure they weren't just doing the floors before they started the clay video.  Has anyone tried the wood formula?  Is it a lost cause, should I take it back?  It looks exactly the same, but I would really love to finally know the truth of this future business, and get to slathering it all over a bunch of pieces that have been sitting around begging to be sealed with something.  Any info is highly appreciated!
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011 11:25:24 AM »

Don't know about the wood formula (however see below**), but for a while now the SC Johnson company has been putting out "our" Future as Pledge Finish with Future Shine.  

It's still a cyanoacrylate "polish for vinyl floors," known by different names outside the U.S., and the same basic thing as Mop 'N Glo.  

It's thin compared to most other clear sealers, and definitely thinner than the other most-common sealer and/or gloss finish used on polymer clay (when desired) which is Varathane--now made by Rustoleum.  In addition to being thinner, Future also isn't UV-resistant the way that the indoor/gloss version of Diamond Varathane is.  
Many clear finishes "for bare wood" are polyurethanes (like the Varathane brand).

http://glassattic.com/polymer/finishes.htm

**Okay, I looked up the "ingredients" for each version of the Pledge finishes (not the cleaners) and compared the Tile & Vinyl version to the Wood version.  All the ingredients that they list at their site at least, are the same:
for vinyl & tile:
http://www.whatsinsidescjohnson.com/en-us/products-by-brand/pledge/pledge-tile--vinyl-floor-finish-with-future-shine-1.aspx
for wood:
http://www.whatsinsidescjohnson.com/en-us/products-by-brand/pledge/pledge-wood-floor-finish-with-future-shine.aspx
(main page for all their "Pledge" products: http://www.whatsinsidescjohnson.com/en-us/products-by-brand/pledge.aspx )

Might be interesting to check out their MSDS's too.

HTH
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kimchery
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011 11:12:11 PM »

Thanks, Diane!

I coated a few pieces to see what happened...  So far so good, and it dried quickly.  I wasn't used to that.  I think everything looks lots better than I imagined... 

Thanks for going to the trouble of looking up the formulas.  I tried to do that, but I think I lack the magic touch.  Something like that.  May also be why I've been searching for future for so long!
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bogert
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011 01:52:59 AM »

So far so good Smiley
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EvolveDragonfly
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011 06:17:44 PM »

I've been wondering a lot about finishes, and I've read soo many different things from so many people. Some of it being outdated and I never even knew it. I have a couple questions about these types of "household" finishes that maybe someone could help me with?

I read that some types of finishes will turn items a yellowish color, or crackle months or years down the road. Is this true with the product the OP is talking about?

And.. this may be an obviously dumb question, but would this product be safe to use on jewelry worn in/on the body? IE; earrings or plugs for gauged ears?
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011 11:12:56 AM »

"Future" (and presumably Mop 'N Glo, but I don't know that for sure) are not UV-resistant, so over time they can begin to yellow a bit from UV light. 
The gloss-indoor "Varathane" brand/line of polyurethane that clayers love so much does have UV resistance, and perhaps some others do too.
Crackling isn't common so not sure about that.  Sometimes clear finishes can peel or turn a bit whitish if not applied properly, the clay hadn't been properly cured, etc.  I wrote some stuff about this the other day at YahooAnswers if you want to check that out:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgyDZcKQNhQD0DoUariq9jLty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20111208212742AAlDHRe
There's more info on problems with various clear finishes on this page if you want to check them out:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/finishes.htm

As for safety, that's a different thing.  In general, those kinds of finishes are safe even next to the body, but inside stretched earlobes is problematic.  You can read more about that, and some ways to deal with it perhaps, on this page:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/jewelry.htm (click on Earrings, then scroll down a bit to the long paragraph that begins with "for stretched earlobes")
...and more on the safety of polymer clay here:
http://glassattic.com/polymer/safety_health_cleaning.htm
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