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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009 06:21:53 PM »

Tallow makes a hard, white bar of soap, but it also contributes to that nice, creamy lather that people love so much in a bar. Some people argue that it's not the best cleaner by itself, so that's why a lot of "modern" tallow recipes have tallow and other oils.

I love to work with tallow, but tallow bars are difficult to sell sometimes. Because I live in close vicinity to the Peoples' Republic of Boulder, having tallow soaps at craft fairs can be awkward, lol. A lot of people hear "tallow" and freak.

Though I will add that it is a MYTH that tallow soap clogs your pores. That's entirely a mental thing! (in fact a lot of the commercial detergent bars such as Lever 2000 use tallow still. Smiley )
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2009 05:35:36 AM »

You're right Nymeria.  The majority of soaps and detergent bars are primarily tallow and palm kernel oils ...  I feel using tallow and lard is far friendly eco-wise than using palm oil and contribute to deforestation.

Thankfully, I live in the mid-west.  smack dab in the middle of corn, cows and hogs!  yee haw
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2009 07:50:49 AM »

Well Denver's nickname is still "Cow Town" so I hear ya. Without moving into a non-crafty rant, I like to use tallow because it does feel less wasteful. Starving children in China and all that jazz.

However, again, so close to PRB, a lot of people frown upon tallow. So I just make it for friends and family mostly. I always tell people to give it a whirl at least once (of course if you can find a place from where to buy pre-rendered tallow, totally give it a try) because it's very cost effective (I believe lb for lb it's the cheapest oil) and the bar is pretty dreamy!  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2009 09:01:36 AM »

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of course if you can find a place from where to buy pre-rendered tallow

It's closer than you think!  Go to the grocery store ... right next to the Crisco you will see the generic shortenings.  One will be labeled "All Vegetable", next to it will be one labeled just "Creamed Shortening"  and usually 'contains animal fats' or something close to that.

That one, dear soapers, is 97% tallow & lard and 3% soybean oil.  Perfectly acceptable for using in soaping and entering in lye calculators for tallow.

PRB <----  that's funny!! Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2009 09:04:17 AM »

One will be labeled "All Vegetable", next to it will be one labeled just "Creamed Shortening"  and usually 'contains animal fats' or something close to that.


I have always heard tales of this product but I have YET to find it at ANY  regular grocery store here!!  I used to be able to buy it at an Afrikaans market near my old place, and the Hispanic food store had it sometimes, too. But out here in the 'burbs it's veggie, veggie, or veggie.  Cry
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009 10:12:45 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009 01:01:56 PM »

is there any difference, in terms of soapmaking, between tallow from different animals? can you mix species? haha. like, could i use part beef and part deer in one batch of soap?
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2009 01:34:37 PM »

The major difference is in the fatty acid profiles of each of the tallows.  For example:

Beef tallow: NaOh .139
Lauric: 0.1 - 2.9
Myristic: 2.9 - 8.9
Linoleic: 2.0 - 3.0
Oleic: 29.6 - 43.0
Palmitic: 24.0 - 32.0
Stearic:18.6 - 25.0
Linolenic: 1.0

Goat tallow: NaOh .1383
Lauric: ~6.0
Myristic: ~12.3
Linoleic: ~3.6
Oleic: ~21.1
Palmitic: ~27.9
Stearic:~ 6.0

Sheep tallow: NaOh .1383
Lauric: ~3.9
Myristic: ~9.7
Linoleic: ~5.2
Oleic: ~26.3
Palmitic: ~23.9
Stearic: ~12.6

Lard: NaOh .138
Lauric: ~0.1
Myristic: 1.0 - 4.0
Linoleic: 2.0 - 15.0
Oleic: 42.0 - 51.0
Palmitic: 20.0 - 28.0
Stearic: 5.0 - 14.0

Ostrich Oil: .139
Lauric: ~3.0
Myristic: ~85.0
Linoleic: ~2.1
Oleic: ~37.5
Palmitic: 7.0 - 26.0
Stearic: ~6.0

Emu Oil: NaOh .1352
Myristic: 20.0 - 40.0
Linoleic: 635 - 14.0
Oleic: 46.0 - 50.0
Palmitic: 21.0 - 31.7
Stearic: 9.0 - 10.7

and the one that makes everyone go 'ewwwww'

Human Fat:  NaOH .1403
Lauric: ~5.4
Myristic: ~7.4
Linoleic: ~7.3
Oleic: ~36.0
Palmitic: ~26.8
Stearic: ~9.7
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2009 04:52:33 PM »

seriously Mullers..this is like the 5th time this week someone has mentioned human fat in soap..I heard its from Fight Club...but I have never seen the movie..so I dunno..

the curious part of me is like 'c'mon lets go..where is it??' then the other part of me is like..eww..

but imagine what the cows and pigs would think if we told them we use them in soaps..HAA!!

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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2009 06:32:15 PM »

I should say that I do love "Fight Club" (the book is a bit better than the movie IMHO).

HOWEVER, I used to teach CP classes in the summer (I stopped because I do better in the winter, and this next reason...) and without fail each class I'd get at least one or two stupid teenage boys who seemed to think that in addition to teaching them how to make cold process soap, I'd also discuss how to scrape off the glycerin and turn it into a bomb.

FYI! Making soap does not make you part of a counter-culture revolution! Well, maybe it DOES, but certainly in a non-violent way!  Grin

And of course every time I mentioned it in Warhammer or Warcraft I'd immediately get a dozen "Cool like in Fight Club? Do you raid plastic surgery dumpsters?" Ugh. I would tell those guys that they fail at life.  Roll Eyes
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