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« on: January 31, 2011 09:08:55 AM »

I was looking for decent guides for a friend who wants to learn how to knit and I found that 90% of the guides say things like "Have a friend cast on and start you off so you can get the hang of the technique first". The only problem I find with that is that casting on is quite a vital skill to have and one of my friends can knit (very very basic knitting, she can't purl but she can knit lol) but doesn't have a clue how to cast on.

Yes it can be annoying having to wait to be taught how to begin something but surely it's like someone teaching you to drive and starting you off in a car that is already moving.

Maybe it's just me, when my Mum taught me how to knit she had me practice casting on before she taught me anything. It just makes sense to me that we should start from the beginning.

Am I the only person who thinks like this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011 02:43:31 PM »

I've been knitting for a little over a month.  My sister taught me.  She made me cast on.  It didn't take that long to learn.

I went to a knit night last week.  There was a person who came into the shop where I was, and she wanted to learn to knit.  The person who was 'leading' the night cast on for her.  Because she was like, this is just gonna take a long time to learn, so let me do this for you.

But that doesn't make any sense to me.  I mean, I hate casting on, I think it's a pain.  But you have to do it to start a project.  I think it's dumb to not teach anyone how to cast on.  Cause then, you're gonna want to start a project, and you aren't going to be able to.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011 03:03:34 PM »

that seems silly.  i don't knit, but i've tried to learn a few times and casting on is one of the few things i actually got the hang of!   Cheesy  i guess i could understand why in a class they might have someone cast on for a new person just to save time, but i would think a guide would have the instructions and tell people to learn to cast on first. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011 03:23:16 PM »

I learned how to cast on before knitting and purling, but I also learned the knitted cast on (as opposed to long tail), and so I essentially learned to form the knit stitch from learning this cast on Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011 06:32:52 PM »

I learned how to cast on before knitting and purling, but I also learned the knitted cast on (as opposed to long tail), and so I essentially learned to form the knit stitch from learning this cast on Smiley

Yes, this is what I showed the only person I've ever 'taught'. Then she did a few more sts and went home to do more and the next day came to work with about 30" of sts on the needle. Then I showed her the knit stitch and she was off.

I guess the thinking is that doing the long tail CO could be a bit complicated, so it's saved for later. I never could do it 'right' but figured out how to do it 2 handed - thumb loops with the L hand, and wrap the yarn around the needle with the R hand - and it's much easier. Knit or even cable COs are easier than that.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2011 08:23:12 AM »

I learned how to cast on before knitting and purling, but I also learned the knitted cast on (as opposed to long tail), and so I essentially learned to form the knit stitch from learning this cast on Smiley

Yes, this is what I showed the only person I've ever 'taught'. Then she did a few more sts and went home to do more and the next day came to work with about 30" of sts on the needle. Then I showed her the knit stitch and she was off.

I guess the thinking is that doing the long tail CO could be a bit complicated, so it's saved for later. I never could do it 'right' but figured out how to do it 2 handed - thumb loops with the L hand, and wrap the yarn around the needle with the R hand - and it's much easier. Knit or even cable COs are easier than that.

It took me forever to learn how to long tail cast on "right" (I actually was taught recently by a fellow woman in my new-found knitting group), but I too did (and still do, even though I know the "right" way now) originally learn the "thumb method" which is exactly like you described. It is still faster for me to cast on that way then the "right" way to do the long tail cast on.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2011 07:54:25 PM »

I sort of get the one handed Long tail now, but my tension is really uneven and yep, I'm really fast with the 2 handed method so that's what I use instead most of the time.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011 09:46:57 PM »

I don't have any friends or family members who knit so I kinda stumbled along teaching myself and I found that Knittinghelp.com has some pretty good videos. Watching their video was how I learned to cast on and helped supplement what the "learn to knit" book sucked at explaining.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2011 09:41:23 AM »

I still consider myself a beginner...  I have been a beginner for 20 years plus... (another story altogether)-
I agree that beginners must learn to cast on before anything! I learned to cast on first- long tail, and finger/thumb method, and then knit cast on...
I don't see how a beginner can get much further if they can't cast on...
I am trying to teach myself to knit from the beginning again- so long since I have done anything at all. (I did teach my daughter the basics when she was 7 yrs old- She is now 14 and knits better than I do but she also is at a "stand still" point...
I should start a new topic on this note...
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011 03:58:57 AM »

I impressed myself by learning to knit by following a video on youtube Smiley It took a few goes but I think I've got the hang of it! I made the job harder by using a funky wool first (is it.. eyelash?) which is a bugger to see the loops through.
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