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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010 02:26:55 PM »

Actually it IS possible to make soap without lye. There is a method using ash water try to google it. It is more healtier than lye stuff anyway.

This is incorrect, what you are extracting from the ash water is lye, and it is an extremely dangerous process since you won't know the strength. I don't recommend that anyone try this unless they have a chemistry degree, and really know what they are doing (I certainly wouldn't do it). It's not any "healthier," I don't think that term really makes any sense anyways in this context.
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010 08:06:20 PM »

Actually it IS possible to make soap without lye. There is a method using ash water try to google it. It is more healtier than lye stuff anyway.

That's how my gtandparents did it and the only way they knew the lye was ready was by floating an egg on it.  The stories of lye burns is terrible and that is what you are recommending.  Please do your research and learn more about soapmaking before making such dangerous recommendations.

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010 08:38:07 PM »

and to add what others said..remember that there is NO lye left in the soap after saponification is done..


 
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010 08:51:19 PM »

For a little more background, one of the reasons that people have such bad associations with "lye soap" today is that back in the olden days when this method of leaching lye from ashes was the norm, the finished soap was often lye heavy and really did burn the skin or was very harsh. The reason it was lye heavy is, of course, because they had no way to gauge the amount or strength of their lye water solution.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010 11:39:47 PM »

i KNOW what i am talking about. I am a memeber of several ecovillages and familiar with their process of making soap. Ash water can be used alone to wash the hair, dishes etc. This is how people used to have before commercial soaps and i never encountered anyone preaching about the dangers. Maybe what we talk about is two different things?
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010 02:37:12 AM »

i KNOW what i am talking about. I am a memeber of several ecovillages and familiar with their process of making soap. Ash water can be used alone to wash the hair, dishes etc. This is how people used to have before commercial soaps and i never encountered anyone preaching about the dangers. Maybe what we talk about is two different things?

Yeah, I think you might not be talking about what we are talking about. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010 04:39:02 AM »

I agree with MareMare that ash water is lye.  Read a book or do some research online to educate yourself as to what ash water actually is.  Lye-sodium hydroxide-caustic soda-ash water-it is all the same stuff.
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i KNOW what i am talking about. I am a memeber of several ecovillages and familiar with their process of making soap. Ash water can be used alone to wash the hair, dishes etc. This is how people used to have before commercial soaps and i never encountered anyone preaching about the dangers. Maybe what we talk about is two different things?

I would be interested in some source information to explain this "ash water" you are talking about.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2010 08:30:19 PM »

Is tinybits possibly referring to soda ash (sodium carbonate), also known as washing soda?

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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2010 09:40:02 AM »

My roommate does work with autism kids in schools as a teacher and I have learned a lot about autism and how the child behaves..I would most definetly make cold process or hot process soap in another location other than your home if you can or while your child is away. Otherwise, I would jusy use melt and pour if you believe your child is fine with it. There are many things you can do with melt and pour (and other premade bases such as lotion, shampoo, etc.) hat you can not do with cold process. Brambleberry.com's owner, Anne Marie, has a blog called "Soap Queen" and she has a gazillion cool looking soap projects that I have no idea of how to conceive of if I did it from scratch. And there are sellers on etsy that make tons of sales by using melt and pour soaps that look like real desserts, real food, and other interesting stuff.
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