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« on: July 11, 2010 11:19:34 AM »

Not sure if this would work or not. Maybe the brains in the mod squad could come up with a good way to throw this out there? I am not suggesting something that would turn into a bitch fest, as that is not what Craftster should be about.

Way back in the day when Craftster was smallish and felt so much different there were unspoken, unposted rules almost. I think the bigger we become the more we might be losing that supporting one another feel.

Maybe a Ms Manners of Crafster post would help that? Things like.....

Respond to the poster before you, before you throw out a totally new topic.
Example, gals posting their packages sent (because the partner who received didnt post pictures)

Folks should take a moment and say something about the package before posting about how they are doing such and such or where they are at in their crafting journey.

I have seen the same thing with folks posting questions. Posting in the thread and getting ignored by all the folks in it is just no fun. I don't think people do this to be mean, they just need a "it is nice if you...." suggestion I am thinking.

Posting pictures of a received package on a timely manner and ALSO saying thank you in the post.

Supporting folks when they put their work out there on line. It can be scary to post something that you have worked hours and days on, only to have people ignore you.

There are some really hard ones out there too that might be difficult to know how to handle. The death of a pet being talked about in a swap thread. I have seen this all over the place and most are allowed, due to the sadness of it and how a person really needs support during that time. However there have been other times that folks have swooped in a smacked the person who just lost a pet? What is the right way to handle this? I am sure there are other topics that are kind of sticky as to what is the polite way to handle it.

I am sure there are more that can be thought of, these are just a few that I have noticed. Again I don't think that people are being cruel or nasty in anyway. I think that folks just get so excited to post what they are thinking or doing that they don't think about the first poster. Thus is the Ms Manners suggestion. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010 02:21:09 AM »

That's an interesting idea. Some threads do move very quickly so some people's posts may not be responded to. Lots of times if I can't answer a question or have nothing to say I just move on to something else, I didn't think anyone would take it personally if the post after theirs doesn't comment on their post. It's probably not reasonable to expect everyone to comment on the post before theirs.

It definitely is nice though to comment on a question that you see that gets lost in the thread, or that has 0 replies.

As sad as the death of a pet is, it really isn't an appropriate swap thread discussion. If one person says they lost their pet, then everyone wants to sympathize and give condolences and the swap thread derails, I think that is when a mod may step in. Luckily we have an off-topic board that is a great place to talk with other Craftsters about that type of thing.

I think there is a thread somewhere on the "unwritten rules" of swapping, but I really like the idea of other general unwritten rules of the site.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010 07:49:23 AM »

glad you like the idea MareMare Smiley

I agree with you that it is hard to respond to everysingle post. Not sure what to say to someone posting....example..

Well, waiting to get supplies and then I will start crafting...

LOL so there for sure are some that just get moved past. My concern comes in when you see swaps and threads where there are like three or four folks talking and chatting it up with one another and they have no responses for anyone else. There are threads and swaps where craftster family members get ignored almost. And I do think it bothers more people than we all realize. I have even seen folks come in with...
"Are my post invisible?"

It is the clique feeling that I was talking about.

I can see your point also on the death of a pet. Maybe a thread that is started with a topic of "needing support" or something of that nature.
It is the inconsistency of that topic that made me mention it as needing to be addressed. I can think of four or five examples of that topic taking up several pages and going unchecked but then another example of someone posting in a swap thread that was finished and being made an example out of.
It is such a sensitive subject and one that is close to peoples hearts. It is uncomfortable to make the call either way I think. :/

Thanks for your wisdom on it all. Hope that one of our fearless leaders can come up with an idea to address some of the questions and concerns out there. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010 12:45:21 PM »

Maybe you could post something about this in the FOC OT thread? I think that board sometimes gets more traffic than this one.

I've definitely noticed some cliquish stuff, I know what you are talking about. If it gets bad on a certain thread and people are being ignore or feeling bad because of un-craftster-ish behavior, I definitely recommend putting in a report to mod. Sometimes just a mod posting in the thread or participating can help people stay on track Smiley

Regarding the inconsistency with some things being moderated, I think it has to do whether or not a mod sees it...if there is a mod already participating in a thread or swap then broken rules are more likely to be addresses quickly. Likewise if someone reports it. We definitely don't want anyone to feel like they are picked on or singled out for moderation, but a lot of times things are missed simply because it never comes to a mod's attention. Also, sometimes rule bending like a little OT is left to slide for a bit in the hopes that the thread will go back to normal quickly without mod intervention.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010 08:55:37 AM »

I think Mare has already covered all of the answers I had.  Thanks, Mare!

This is the perfect board for this topic.  jungrrl & myself read all of the threads and suggestions here, but we might not always personally respond.  We're always lurking, though! Cool
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2010 03:58:08 PM »

As far as the cliquish thing goes, there are a couple swaps that I changed my mind about joining because all posts from me and other people who weren't in the clique were completely ignored. One swap in particular was so bad it really seemed intentional, like they didn't want any non-clique members joining the swap.

Anymore I try to keep my posts short and to the point, because it seems like the more personality I let show in my posts the more they are ignored.  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2010 09:36:17 PM »

Wildfyre, you should post more and there will be folks that appreciate you. I know I LOVE your post as you teach me something almost everytime I read one. Smiley That is what I loved about Craftster the most, it was/is about teaching and encouraging one another. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011 11:19:00 AM »

I don't think that an etiquette thread would be a bad idea.

But I think that "clique-ish" behavior can be a snowballing issue, too.  If you're new, nobody knows anything about you, which makes it much harder to know what to say to you.  So then you don't want to share because you're afraid you'll be ignored, and people still don't know anything about you...

I've been a Craftster member for years, although I wasn't super-active before.  And I still don't feel like a "Crafster family member" - not because I feel that anyone has excluded me (everyone has always been great!), but because I don't feel like I know the other members as well as some know each other.  But, y'know, the ones that seem to know each other best tend to be the ones with the highest post counts - they've just interacted more.  It just is what it is.  Point being, the best way to get around feeling ignored is probably to post more and hold less back.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011 03:59:19 PM »

I've also noticed some changes in Craftster behavior... I've been mostly away for a year or so, but it seems to me that there used to be a lot more posting replies to people who had none, and just general support.  One thing I've always treasured about Craftster is that everyone was always so supportive and nice, which is so different from most messages boards.  I'd hate to see us trend away from that!
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011 04:20:06 AM »

Yes, there are some posts that one puts in a swap thread that don't get answered. But I've never seen this as a problem of manners.
I like to chat in the swap thread, I really do, but if someone posts something that I don't have an answer for, then I don't feel pressed to say something.
I don't think it's bad manners if you have a fluent conversation going with some swap members, and with others you don't. The swap requirement is usually to check in once per week. You're not required to answer to everyone's posts. I don't even see how it would be possible to do that, given the size of most swaps.
Craftster member are very supportive, but as a whole, craftster is not a very chatty place when it comes to things that aren't crafts, and while you can make friends in a swap, it's not necessarily going to happen that you're going to be social with the whole swap. If that makes someone feel left out, it's certainly not nice, but perhaps in the next swap, things will be different already. And there's always your swap partner to chat up things with.
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