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« on: April 15, 2010 11:16:27 AM »

Anyone know how to do this?

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010 02:01:37 PM »

OK, here's how I would do it. First of all, I'd use brick stitch rather than peyote. Peyote would need to be done down the length of the sides, whereas brick stitch will work from one end of each side to the other, if that make sense.

First of all, it looks to be about 8 beads around. Make a ladder stitch base 8 beads around, and make it into a circle. Leave a long tail (12" min.). Bead it into a tube 17 rows high, then start decreasing it. The decreased part won't be a tube, just open, like you would do a brick stitch earring. At the other end of the tube, decrease it the same way. Make 2 more tubes, then weave the corners together.

I realize these instructions require some bead weaving experience. About.com or a general web search will turn up all kinds of instructions on brick stitch if you don't know it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010 04:35:32 AM »

Sounds confusing. I'll have to google some of those techniques. Thanks for the help.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010 11:08:53 AM »

I think it kind of looks like the top to a beaded triangle box, but with a hole in the center, and two of them combined into one piece (that was probably confusing for everyone not in my head right now)
I'm trying to find a pic... oh here is one I copied from the back of my fav book! (which I really need to buy and let the library have their copy back for more than a few days)  In the book, Little Bead Boxes by Julia S Pretl, it goes into more detail about the making of each box and how to read the charts.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010 11:26:36 AM »

It appears to me that it is indeed peyote stitch, and that (as others have mentioned), each side is beaded independently and then joined.

If you start with the "inside" long side and bead "up", you would just increase on both ends every time for as many rows as thickness-of-side that you want. That way, you'll end up with the staggered bits that angle in such a way that they fit together when you're done.

Now, I'm intrigued. I've GOT to try this for myself.

I blame you  Tongue (joking - it'll be fun).

Let's both try!

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p.s. Is it flat or does it have dimension to it (are the sides tube-ish?). On second look, it looks like the sides could be tube-shaped.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010 11:40:43 AM »

It appears to me that it is indeed peyote stitch, and that (as others have mentioned), each side is beaded independently and then joined.

If you start with the "inside" long side and bead "up", you would just increase on both ends every time for as many rows as thickness-of-side that you want. That way, you'll end up with the staggered bits that angle in such a way that they fit together when you're done.

Now, I'm intrigued. I've GOT to try this for myself.

I blame you  Tongue (joking - it'll be fun).

Let's both try!

Good luck,
~CD~

p.s. Is it flat or does it have dimension to it (are the sides tube-ish?). On second look, it looks like the sides could be tube-shaped.

Thanks for your input! I'm gonna give it a shot over the weekend and if I can accomplish it. I really want to learn this technique. It would look great with some of my planned pieces.

PS - It looks tubular to me...atleast that's the look I'm shooting for! Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2010 12:28:36 PM »

Hmm . . .

I wonder if it would be possible to do this is a flat piece which is zipped as the final step to creating each side.

If so, one could start with the length of the short side. Increase evenly up to the longest length of each side, then continue to evenly decrease to the length of the starting short side length.

Then zipping up should (if I'm picturing this correctly) result in the staggered end bits.

This is gonna be fun Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2010 12:31:39 PM »

Hmm . . .

I wonder if it would be possible to do this is a flat piece which is zipped as the final step to creating each side.

If so, one could start with the length of the short side. Increase evenly up to the longest length of each side, then continue to evenly decrease to the length of the starting short side length.

Then zipping up should (if I'm picturing this correctly) result in the staggered end bits.

This is gonna be fun Smiley

~CD~

Well if you experiment with this and get good results let me know how you did it!  Cheesy I'll be experimenting this weekend hopefully!
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2010 01:37:46 PM »

ROFL!

I'm still thinking about this.

I have another idea.

I think I'll try making a standard tube the size of the shortest side, and then reduce along both edges (after it is complete) to a single bead because it looks like the ends need to be more "open" and less of a closed tube in order to accommodate the join.

Fun stuff!
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010 01:45:46 PM »

ROFL!

I'm still thinking about this.

I have another idea.

I think I'll try making a standard tube the size of the shortest side, and then reduce along both edges (after it is complete) to a single bead because it looks like the ends need to be more "open" and less of a closed tube in order to accommodate the join.

Fun stuff!
~CD~

LMAO! I am still thinking too. I'm semi-new to peyote...I've only done 4 or 5 cuffs. I've never done free-form, increasing, decreasing, tubular peyote...NOTHING! I just have to experiment while looking at the picture. LOL!
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010 02:48:04 PM »

OK . . . just one more idea.

I'm working on the tube (all one size). Looks like it would start with 18 for the starting row (so you end up with 9 across). I'm thinking maybe 8-9 beads high (length twice the width).

I'm thinking now that the "ears" should be brick stitched along the edges of the finished piece.

I'm determined now.

I'll be eager to see how other beaders tackle this challenge.

~CD~

p.s. There are a gazillion good tutes for tubular peyote. I've appended one below.
http://njbeadsociety.wordpress.com/2007/11/11/even-count-tubular-peyote-beadwork-tutorial/

p.s. It would be cool to post a tutorial when we figure out how to make this happen.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010 09:30:15 PM »

Heading to bed now, but thought I'd let you know that the above idea works.

I've made one segment, and it looks pretty much identical to the picture.

I did one flat piece of peyote starting with 18 beads (so ends up 9 / row). I left a long tail (maybe 8 - 12"). When it was about 6 beads high (I should've counted, but that's approximately right), I bricked stitched the "ear" on the left hand end. I used the tail to stitch an identical "ear" on the right hand end. Then I zipped it up, and VOILA!

I'll do one with better beads tomorrow so you can see it more clearly, and can take some pics along the way as a makeshift tutorial.

For now, here's a pic of what I've got. I put a toothpick in the tube so you could get a better idea of size.



Sorry for the lousy pic. Have no idea how to operate hubby's cam properly.

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2010 08:07:44 AM »

After weaving 3 of the above together, I got this:



Voila!

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2010 11:13:05 AM »

Sculptural Peyote Triangle: A Brief Tutorial

This tutorial assumes the reader has the following skills:
  • Flat, even count peyote stitch
  • Zipping up peyote stitch
  • Brick stitch

A tutorial for the first two skills can be found here: http://www.beadandbutton.com/How%20To/Basics/Peyote%20Stitch/2006/08/~/media/import/files/pdf/9/3/0/peyotebasics.ashx . A tutorial for the third skill (i.e., brick stitch) can be found here: http://www.beadandbutton.com/en/How%20To/Basics/Brick%20Stitch/2006/08/Brick%20stitch%20basics.aspx

Step 1 (pictured below): Leaving at least an 18" long tail, create a flat peyote strip 9 beads high (start with 18 beads on needle for rows 1 and 2, 19th begins row 3) by 6 beads wide. Be certain there are 6 beads on both edges.



Step 2 (pictured below): Create an "ear" (i.e., a triangular tip to your peyote strip) in brick stitch, beginning where your thread is exiting from your last step. Use traditional brick stitch which naturally decreases by 1 for each row. Your final tip bead will sit perpendicular to the others. For those using the brick stitch tutorial referenced above, the edge of your peyote strip serves as your beginning "ladder".




Step 3 (pictured below): Using the tail from step 1, create another "ear" on the bottom of your peyote strip identical to the one you created in step 2



Step 4 (pictured below): Using the tail thread, weave down your "ear" until you reach the first bead of the peyote stitched piece (6th bead from top). Starting there, "zip up" your peyote tube. Stop "zipping up" when you reach the beginning of the top "ear". Your goal in this step is to create a hollow tube with an open "ear" on both ends. Do not cut your thread.



Step 5: Repeat steps 1 - 4 to create two additional "legs" for your triangle, for a total of 3.


Step 6 (pictured below): In steps 6 and 7, you will "marry" the ears of two of the "legs" you have created. To begin, stitch together the tips of the "ears" of two of the legs. These tips will be lying perpendicular to the rest of the "ear".



Step 7 (pictured below): The final step is to "marry" the remainder of the "ears" to one another. Keep in mind that you must carry out this step ON BOTH SIDES of the "ears" at each joint of your triangle. Simply stitch them together so they meet side by side.

My method (which is likely not the most efficient), was to begin with the 2nd bead from the top of Ear1 (thread heading DOWN that bead / away from tip of ear). I then stitch UP the 2nd bead from the top of Ear2. Finally, I stitch DOWN through both the 2nd and 3rd beads from the top of Ear1. Continue in like manner until you reach the beginning of the tube.




The finished triangle will look something like this:







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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2010 10:35:56 AM »

Oh my gosh you're freakin' awesome! I haven't gotten any reply emails on this thread so I didn't know you replied with a tutorial.  Sad You're a genious! Thanks so much! You're a sweetheart!  Kiss
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2010 09:05:51 PM »

Thank you for the tut!    Grin
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2010 06:23:34 PM »

WHAT?!?! this is soooo dope!  love the triangle I am going to try this out asap thanks for the tutorial  Kiss
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011 09:17:25 AM »

Interesting.

Check out p. 36 of this month's Bead and Button magazine (i.e., February 2011 Issue 101).

You may notice a few similarities . . .

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2012 07:04:28 AM »

Hopefully someone can give me a little help. The only thing that is throwing me off on this tutorial is the brick stitch on the ends to get the triangular point. Mine is not looking like it should, the end is square. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? How many rows of brick stitch are there? Is it decreased to the one bead (tip) and then finished with a square stitch?
I would appreciate some help.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2012 07:41:03 AM »

Hopefully someone can give me a little help. The only thing that is throwing me off on this tutorial is the brick stitch on the ends to get the triangular point. Mine is not looking like it should, the end is square. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? How many rows of brick stitch are there? Is it decreased to the one bead (tip) and then finished with a square stitch?
I would appreciate some help.
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I should have waited until I tried one more thing before posting. Now I'm  Embarrassed ! I figured everything out.
Thanks,
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2012 02:54:20 AM »

Hope this thread isn't too old... Wink

Those triangles are actually made using a peyote stitch, with adding two beads (herringbone style) on the corners. After making one side, you should start working from the first row again, just on the other side. The second side should be one row longer (or shorter) so you can easily zip both sides then.

That works for the other shapes too. Smiley
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